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I have read up on this a bit, but I want to be sure, as I am rooting and flashing tomorrow. So excited!
So when you do Volume Up after trying to enter Download mode (accepting the warning), you flash a ROM, you'll have a triangle on the kernel boot screen and a flash counter right?
And how do you get rid of it? I heard a JIG works, but I talked to a friend with an i9100 and he says the JIG doesn't work after a specific firmware. Does it work for us on KH7? And what value, the standard 301k?
Someone suggested this http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-download-mode-jig/ is there anything better? Cheaper? Anything that won't work I should look out for?
One more thing. Can a mod make a Q&A section like the Captivate had? I feel bad posting this in General.
Thanks for teaching an ex Android expert the ropes after being away so long *tear*
So far the only things I've read about reseting the count and get rid of the yellow triangle is the jig. I actually just ordered the one from that website. So ill let u know how it goes when ever I get it. I know my old cappy jig didn't work. Hopefully I didn't waist my money on this new one.
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From what I have been able to find out. It is the non-stock kernel that is bringing up the yellow triangle up and aside from flashing a stock kernel there isn't a way to get rid of it yet. I've heard that maybe a jig will help but haven't seen it confirmed anywhere
yoderk said:
From what I have been able to find out. It is the non-stock kernel that is bringing up the yellow triangle up and aside from flashing a stock kernel there isn't a way to get rid of it yet. I've heard that maybe a jig will help but haven't seen it confirmed anywhere
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Someone did have success with a jig.
Also, it only checks the kernel for "official" status when you flash, and it does not check the system image. So you can flash a kernel on-device if you have root from a shell:
Code:
dd if=zImage of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
The jig I had for my captivate does get rid of the yellow triangle. Just turned off phone, held down volume buttons, inserted jig, then it said count has been zeroed or something to that effect. I rebooted and yellow triangle was gone.
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Thanks for the confirmation guys Gonna order that jig now and flashing today!
I used my home made cappy jig and it too cleared my counter and removed the yellow triangle.
On a side note the firmware on the i9100 that seems to disable this feature has to do with new bootloaders from what i read. And most of us former cappy owners have learned to stay away from unproven bootloaders.
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kytrauma said:
I used my home made cappy jig and it too cleared my counter and removed the yellow triangle.
On a side note the firmware on the i9100 that seems to disable this feature has to do with new bootloaders from what i read. And most of us former cappy owners have learned to stay away from unproven bootloaders.
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Yeah I would not flash i9100 bootloaders.... why did they change them anyway? There was no serious firmware change.
Where are you buying your jig from?
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Haas360 said:
Where are you buying your jig from?
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I got mine from MobileTechVideos for my captivate, and tried it and it worked no problem.
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Haas360 said:
Where are you buying your jig from?
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I believe I posted a link in the OP. From MobileTech. I bought one with Paypal
yoderk said:
From what I have been able to find out. It is the non-stock kernel that is bringing up the yellow triangle up and aside from flashing a stock kernel there isn't a way to get rid of it yet. I've heard that maybe a jig will help but haven't seen it confirmed anywhere
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Interesting. My new SGSII is on it's way, but I am curious about this as well. I've got a jig for my cap that I'll try, but if all else fails, has anyone been able to confirm that flashing back to bone stock (via the Odin pack that is posted) will revert it back to normal (i.e. for warranty replacements)?
EDIT: I also just read another potentially disturbing article that there may be a second hidden counter that counts how many times that the counter has been reset: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117295&highlight=counter
I usually wouldn't care, but I've had to return my cap twice for warranty issues, and I wouldn't want to get screwed if I had a problem with my new one.
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
pinoymutt said:
Interesting. My new SGSII is on it's way, but I am curious about this as well. I've got a jig for my cap that I'll try, but if all else fails, has anyone been able to confirm that flashing back to bone stock (via the Odin pack that is posted) will revert it back to normal (i.e. for warranty replacements)?
EDIT: I also just read another potentially disturbing article that there may be a second hidden counter that counts how many times that the counter has been reset: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117295&highlight=counter
I usually wouldn't care, but I've had to return my cap twice for warranty issues, and I wouldn't want to get screwed if I had a problem with my new one.
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
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Yes, the methods use to root involve changing out the kernel to allow SuperOneclick to work so this also adds to the odin counter.
I bought my jig off ebay and I confirmed days ago that it worked. I bought it for my i9100 and it works for my i777 as well.
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At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
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Yes, for SOC to work you must use download mode to install an insecure or rooted kernel.
However, the counter does NOT count system image flashes as far as I can tell - so if you use my "stock + root" system package, you'll get root without increasing the counter or triggering the ! flag.
After that, you can flash a zImage on-device as follows using an ADB shell or terminal session:
Code:
dd if=zImage of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
This will flash a custom kernel without triggering the custom kernel warning or increasing the counter.
pinoymutt said:
Interesting. My new SGSII is on it's way, but I am curious about this as well. I've got a jig for my cap that I'll try, but if all else fails, has anyone been able to confirm that flashing back to bone stock (via the Odin pack that is posted) will revert it back to normal (i.e. for warranty replacements)?
EDIT: I also just read another potentially disturbing article that there may be a second hidden counter that counts how many times that the counter has been reset: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117295&highlight=counter
I usually wouldn't care, but I've had to return my cap twice for warranty issues, and I wouldn't want to get screwed if I had a problem with my new one.
At the very minimum I may just try and root using SuperOneClick -- does anyone know if the process uses the download mode or screws with the counter?
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Oh my god counterception. This made me laugh hard in class, a counter that counts counter resets. DAMN!
This is scary though, and I don't want to flash without more info on this. I prefer to keep my warranty ATM. Had to warranty repair my Captivate once...
Entropy512 said:
After that, you can flash a zImage on-device as follows using an ADB shell or terminal session:
Code:
dd if=zImage of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
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would this work in mac osx terminal?
which cwm zImage should i use?
EDIT:
I originally used the files found in THIS thread, using heimdall, but it gave me a yellow triangle'
RockRatt said:
The jig I had for my captivate does get rid of the yellow triangle. Just turned off phone, held down volume buttons, inserted jig, then it said count has been zeroed or something to that effect. I rebooted and yellow triangle was gone.
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I did the same... My Captivate Jig works fine
All I did was turn off the phone, plug in the Jig and wait... Waa laa
I refuse to root/flash until the secondary counter is figured out I really need my warranty active.
Haloruler64 said:
I refuse to root/flash until the secondary counter is figured out I really need my warranty active.
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I'm with you on that one. I'm really surprised that others have not picked up on it (or really understand the impact).
Maybe we're just overly cautious -- but this bad boy screams on stock (at least compared to my Captivate) so it's not so bad leaving it for the time being...
I have to return my phone back to best buy for a return, what all do I have to do? I'm on cognition x2. I want to get rid of the yellow triangle and return to UN rooted stock ROM...
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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ceo.mtcl said:
I have to return my phone back to best buy for a return, what all do I have to do? I'm on cognition x2. I want to get rid of the yellow triangle and return to UN rooted stock ROM...
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Would be nice for someone to post up a tutorial for this. Im thinking about getting my s2 replaced as battery life is not so great. I think mine is defective. Today i only got 9hrs minimal usage. Im on stock+root+cwm
You will need the jig to reset the counter and you will need a stock ROM to flash back to stock. Is stock ROM available yet? Those are the two things I need at hand before doing any rooting or flashing custom ROMs.
I have the jig ordered but has yet to see a stock ROM posted.
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Is is not possible to do it without a jig? Can I not flash the stock kernel and get rid of the yellow triangle?
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Follow Entropy's thread in the Dev section about returning to stock. The exclamation point will disappear.
Here's the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
[Edit] Thanks for the clarification rquinn19
Kadin said:
Follow Entropy's thread in the Dev section about returning to stock. It WILL keep it rooted but the exclamation point will disappear. Unless the rep knows to look in Applications for Superuser, there's no other indication of it being rooted to the average user...
Here's the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
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he also put up an untouched, unrooted version now.
edit: dont listen to the post about the jig being needed.
rquinn19 said:
he also put up an untouched, unrooted version now.
edit: dont listen to the post about the jig being needed.
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i just ordered mine on ebay. i guess there will be a time im gonna have to use it anyways (unbricking etc)
Just tell Best Buy that you have no idea why there is a yellow triangle there.. >_>
There is a small (very small) chance some warranty service types might give you grief about the custom binary count being non-zero.
However if you're just plain returning the device to an AT&T store, the device will be returned and your money back before the device reaches Samsung and they pull the counter (if they even bother to do so.)
So just doing the Return to Stock from my thread should do the trick in almost all cases.
Now in my case... If I ever have problems I'm using a jig, my custom binary count is over 40 now.
i actually just want to return my s2 for an exchange to a new s2. i think i got a bad s2, battery just not good on mine.
regarding OP question...
here is ENTROPY's answer on his other thread.
simpl3lang said:
if i want to return to complete stock, all i have to do is odin the "Kernel + non-rooted system package" under PDA plus the MODEM under phone? if the MODEM was never messed with (like accidently installing a international version rom), we dont have to odin the MODEM right? or its a total must?
oh and thanks a bunch for all the hard work Entropy!!!!!
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Entropy512 said:
You may have to enter 3e recovery and wipe after you return to stock, but other than that:
Just odin the kernel + non-rooted system.
And yes, if you never touched the modem, no need to flash it. If you're returning to stock to return, I would:
Flash kernel + nonrooted system
Enter recovery and wipe (same method for entering CWM from poweroff, but with stock kernels you wind up in 3e)
Check to make sure your baseband is UCKH7 in Settings->About Phone. If it isn't, flash the modem.
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simpl3lang said:
i actually just want to return my s2 for an exchange to a new s2. i think i got a bad s2, battery just not good on mine.
regarding OP question...
here is ENTROPY's answer on his other thread.
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Good to know. I got mine at Best Buy, too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313659
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BTW I don't think removing the Yellow Exclamation point resets the counter. If they know how to look for that, they can still see that you flashed the phone. The Jig removes the exclamation mark AND resets the counter to 0. So, all you have to do at that point is flash the stock rom, insert jig, and phone was as if you didn't tamper with it at all.
At least that's I hope the jig can do, cause why did I spend $8!!!???
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BTW I don't think removing the Yellow Exclamation point resets the counter. If they know how to look for that, they can still see that you flashed the phone. The Jig removes the exclamation mark AND resets the counter to 0. So, all you have to do at that point is flash the stock rom, insert jig, and phone was as if you didn't tamper with it at all.
At least that's I hope the jig can do, cause why did I spend $8!!!???
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Yes, this has been reported in the i9100 forums with regard to the International version of the SGS II. Developers in this forum say otherwise. I havn't seen any posts proving this one way or the other. I havn't even seen any screen shots of the counter being anything other than "no".
Pretty much everyone agrees that the jig resets both. But it is also reported that bootloaders installed with the leaked versions of the stock rom do not allow the warning to be cleared or the counter to be reset with the jig.
I'd like to see some proof on these issues, or at least reports of first hand experience that gives us some verification on these issues.
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
tomhurst said:
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
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Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
http://download.chainfire.eu/158/CF-Root/SGS2/CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip?retrieve_file=1
You will have the yellow triangle after flashing and your binary flash counter would have increased by 1.
You can use triangle away to remove the symbol and reset the flash counter to zero.
Or have a look at the Root/Unroot guide in my signature.
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bored_stupid said:
Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
You will have the yellow triangle after flashing and your binary flash counter would have increased by 1.
You can use triangle away to remove the symbol and reset the flash counter to zero.
Or have a look at the Root/Unroot guide in my signature.
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That's brilliant! Thanks so much. I'll have to convince him to let me now. He doesn't want me going near his phone again haha
If your friend now doesn't want you to go to near his phone, let him root it himself or live with it the way it is.
Statements like "he obviously doesn't have recovery" when he obviously does lead me to believe you'll only damage his phone anyway.
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Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
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So I just flash this under PDA? Will this give just root and no recovery?
oinkylicious said:
If your friend now doesn't want you to go to near his phone, let him root it himself or live with it the way it is.
Statements like "he obviously doesn't have recovery" when he obviously does lead me to believe you'll only damage his phone anyway.
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Why does he obviously have recovery? His phone is exactly how he got it. Unless they give you recovery now? I used to have a Spica (piece of crap) which I had to root in order to get recovery onto it. And he has no idea how to root and his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
tomhurst said:
So I just flash this under PDA? Will this give just root and no recovery?
Why does he obviously have recovery? His phone is exactly how he got it. Unless they give you recovery now? I used to have a Spica (piece of crap) which I had to root in order to get recovery onto it. And he has no idea how to root and his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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All new or old S2s should have recovery albeit stock 3e recovery," if they have not installed another recovery ". Try it!
Power down. Then at the same time press:- volume up/home button/power button.
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tomhurst said:
his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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You told him bogus information then.
tomhurst said:
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
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Head over to here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona, & find the specific firmware for your friends device & flash in PDA via Odin! (no need to find a seperate kernel to flash, as it will be included in the official firmware package!)
At this point you'll have no yellow triangle on your boot up splash screen, & no flash count!
Then head over to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 & root the device using the instructions given! (you'll need an external sd-card in your device to put the files on for rooting!)
Still no yellow triangle on boot splash screen, & also no extra flash count!
Finally, install Triangle Away from here "IF NEEDED": https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en, & "MAKE SURE" it gives the exact same flash count number as is in download mode, then click "Reset Counter".
Job done, official stock firmware with root (fast, stable & reliable!) with no yellow triangle or flash count visible!
What Samsung official firmware site? Even if such a thing existed why would the custom binary counter go up? Think about it. Also, OP already made it clear he's incapable of following those root instructions, as he apparently (and obviously) doesn't have recovery.
oinkylicious said:
You told him bogus information then.
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What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
tomhurst said:
What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
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What will help before you potentially brick your friends phone is to read the stickies.
Stickies here
Hopefully you might learn the basics of rooting/unrooting and installing firmware before its to late
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oinkylicious said:
What Samsung official firmware site? Even if such a thing existed why would the custom binary counter go up? Think about it. Also, OP already made it clear he's incapable of following those root instructions, as he apparently (and obviously) doesn't have recovery.
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What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
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It's just his way, don't worry about it!
1: This samsung firmware site: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona
Obviously exists eh!
2: As I mentioned in my (helpfull!) post, the method I directed him to uses temporary "Touch CWM Recovery" for him to get into to root!
3: The method he tried was the oneclick method! That's not the method I directed him to! (try reading the post properly before commenting, as you've so graciously pointed out to me in the past!)
I hope this answers all of your descrepancies oinkylicious!
CrackDaddy said:
It's just his way, don't worry about it!
1: This official samsung firmware site: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona
Obviously exists eh!
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Actually Samfirmware.com is an unofficial site, not endorsed by Samsung at all.
although it is where to get the Samsung firmware's for all their phones.
bored_stupid said:
Actually Samfirmware.com is an unofficial site, not endorsed by Samsung at all.
although it is where to get the Samsung firmware's for all their phones.
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Fair enough, well I won't split ends with you & thanks for the usefull information bored_stupid!
1) not official
2) it wouldn't go up "AGAIN" after flashing official firmware. Writing wrong information in CAPS doesn't make it right
3) I know, see 4)
4) he tried both and fell at the first hurdle.
Any more? Come at me bro.
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1) not official
2) it wouldn't go up after flashing official firmware.
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I got the not official bit m8, get over yourself!
Really, I'm trying to help the bloke & all you can pick up on is "NOT OFFICIAL"?? please!
Any more? Come at me bro?? How old?...........
The more you post, the more foolish you look. Flashing an official binary from download mode will not increase your counter.
oinkylicious said:
The more you post, the more foolish you look. Flashing an official binary from download mode will not increase your counter.
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& you're job on here I take it is to try & make people look stupid huh?
Like I said, how old?
Tell me something? what increases your binary count oinkylicious?
Flashing an unofficial binary from download mode. Such as CF-root or any of the custom kernels.
I just don't like people spreading incorrect information.
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Flashing an unofficial binary from download mode.
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I stand corrected & edited your honour, at last, something creative to say
You's da man, whoop whoop!
he said the phone wouldn't boot & yellow triangle!
yellow triangle as far as I know= binary counter gone up!
Apart from using a jig, for which he'd also have to flash an older bootloader coz the phone's on ICS & it wouldn't work otherwise, what would you suggest to reset it?
Not false information I'm giving m8, just trying to be helpfull, & I can't see in what I originally posted how I wasn't trying to be helpfull really!? But you obviously can
Can someone explain to me what trip counter means? Where do I see if mine is tripped or not?
It is a counter on your phone that trips if you have installed custom firmware. Sorry to say I can't tell you where to look because I don't care about mine
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Trip Counter (Binary Download Counter)
1. Power off Phone
2. Hold Volume- (Down) and Home Key and Power at same time. Let phone boot. While holding all three keys.
3. Once in download mode press Volume+ (up)
Here you can see the counter.
Coustom Binary Download: No
Or
Coustom Binary Download: Yes (2 counts)
how ever many counts you have.
To exit hold power button for about 10 seconds. Then press again to power up phone. (Or Pull Battery)
No this will not trip counter.
is there any way to reset the counter?
dearbeloved said:
is there any way to reset the counter?
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not on the USA variants
djricekcn said:
not on the USA variants
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Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
Gadgetz said:
Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
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As far as I understand, no it doesn't work and if you try on the USA one, it could potentially brick your phone. I didn't want to take the risk so didn't use it, but I think the author himself said USA Variants not supported.
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
dearbeloved said:
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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It'll keep going up unless if it's your carrier's official rom, and to be honest, once you get "1" I don't think it matters if you have "2" or "48190238102931"
dearbeloved said:
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
Gadgetz said:
I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
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I can confirm that.
dasistsparta said:
I can confirm that.
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not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Dees it hurt me in any kind of way?
mine says "custom binary download: yes (1 count)
I installed 2 roms (same rom just updated version)
djricekcn said:
not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
Gadgetz said:
Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
djricekcn said:
well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
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I don't think there's a method out to do that yet, sit tight.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Does it hurt me in any kind of way?
there's no max, its just a way of voiding warranty
So we need to brick our phone good enough that they cant read the counter to get warranty replacement???
once the counter is [1] or higher,you already voided your warranty...there's really no max out or loop back to [0]
Just wondering is it safe to root or is there a root counter that will be triggered (just worried about warrantying phone if something happens to it)? If there is, can it be reset?
rr150159 said:
Just wondering is it safe to root or is there a root counter that will be triggered (just worried about warrantying phone if something happens to it)? If there is, can it be reset?
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It's safe. Rooted mine after i got it activated yesterday. Just go to the Development thread and follow the directions there.
fizeke136 said:
It's safe. Rooted mine after i got it activated yesterday. Just go to the Development thread and follow the directions there.
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i rooted before i ever put sim in LOL
Is the root counter resettable using something like SQLlite Editor? Which file and key?
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rr150159 said:
Just wondering is it safe to root or is there a root counter that will be triggered (just worried about warrantying phone if something happens to it)? If there is, can it be reset?
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Software status says modified after rooting.
software status and a counter are not the same thing. Software status detects root while you are rooted. Counter detects that you have rooted after you return the device to stock/unrooted.
t1n0m3n said:
software status and a counter are not the same thing. Software status detects root while you are rooted. Counter detects that you have rooted after you return the device to stock/unrooted.
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So, is there a root counter?
Excellent question. I think that this question is still up for grabs to be answered. Although, if there is not a counter, it is more difficult to disprove a negative. I think someone smarter than I will have to take a look at this.
My understanding is that your modified status gets reset when you flash back to stock.
Colchiro said:
My understanding is that your modified status gets reset when you flash back to stock.
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Yes, that's correct.
Don't know if this answers your question or not but....
droidrev71 said:
So, is there a root counter?
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I can confirm that going from root to unrooted and then back to root that there is no counter. When you enter download mode to restore a phone back to stock unrooted it does say that it is modified before restore but after restore it returns to normal status with no counter ever appearing to say that it was ever rooted.
funzoneplanet said:
I can confirm that going from root to unrooted and then back to root that there is no counter. When you enter download mode to restore a phone back to stock unrooted it does say that it is modified before restore but after restore it returns to normal status with no counter ever appearing to say that it was ever rooted.
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Exactly why I dumped Samsung and came to LG.
They are root neutral.
Samsung is completely hostile.
tech_head said:
Exactly why I dumped Samsung and came to LG.
They are root neutral.
Samsung is completely hostile.
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Totally with you there. Also these bootloaders aren't made by the NSA so maybe we'll have a shot at unlocking them lol
Either way I'm completely happy with this phone it's sick
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tech_head said:
Exactly why I dumped Samsung and came to LG.
They are root neutral.
Samsung is completely hostile.
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While the UI is not completely stock, it doesn't blow chunks like TouchWiz. I would be happy with just root on this phone. Bootloader would be nicer, but not having it is not a bad as on a Samsung device.
Mistertac said:
Totally with you there. Also these bootloaders aren't made by the NSA so maybe we'll have a shot at unlocking them lol
Either way I'm completely happy with this phone it's sick
- Sent From My G3
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I just got my wife a LG G2 and there is at least the Loki exploit.
There is a chance, and not the bootloader isn't signed with SHA256 as far as I know.
Insane? It does keep people out. On the other hand it can drive away business.
I bought two LG phones in the last two months.
LG => +2
Samsung => -1