http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Ubuntu for phones uses Android as its base, so does that mean features that are broken in ICS and JB builds would still be broken in UFP?
Not really. I've spent a lot of time with these as I hope to bring it to the Atrix. But it's not based off those builds, In the video he describes that it is ment to be compatible with any devices that run android. It is actually built off their operating system simmilar to windows 8 and windows 8 RT. It will be released for the samsung galaxy nexus. It will function similar to how their OS runs on computers, where it comes with one OS, but it will be compatible with another. Ubuntu Phone will hopefully be able to run on devices that run android. meaning that as long as you don't have an iphone, or windows phone, you should be able to run it. Which to me is really exciting as I see a lot of promise with this OS, especially along side our lapdocks
That would be amazing if we could get a full supported ubuntu for the atrix. Im looking to reutilize mine (despite its broken digitizer)
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Unfortunately, almost nothing stated in here is accurate.
The only Android dependency is the Android Kernel. So any issues we have, would still exist in Ubuntu for Phones.
I do hope the Ubunutu OS will be able to run on my atrix 4g. But yes, all android issues will exist if we have to stick with the atrix 4g kernal.
IF ported Galaxy R 3.x.x kernel gonna fully working before late Q4 2013, I assume, ubuntu for android will working flawlessly on our atrix
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Could anyone answer my few questions to help me get a grip whether the idea is feasible?
* How different is Android kernel from standard Linux (ie. Maemo) kernel?
* Is most of the hardware abstraction handled by Linux kernel, or the Dalvik VM internals and library?
* Is the kernel accessible? Ie. can I supplant my own init script and run custom binary in place of Dalvik?
* Is the Android hardware hackable? Ie. can I get direct access to the root partition and put custom content in?
I'm asking because I would like to get a better piece of hardware than N900 (namely HTC EVO 4G) and port Maemo 5 (ie. Mer) on it. But if Android hardware is a closed black box, I won't bother.
I don't have experience with Android (I like Maemo so much better) and I wouldn't like to spent a lot of money on hardware I could not hack.
Some android hardware is more open to changes, such as google's devloper phone.
People have managed to run Debian GNU/Linux on the nexus one, but not all the hardware is functional as of now.
There are some binary only libraries and drivers for some vendors, meaning you might not be able to use all of the hardware.
I do believe it is possible to port the Maemo OS on the nexus one, and I would love to try it if you gain momentum on this.
Unfortunately I do not know Maemo OS enough to be of any assistance apart from telling you that Android use a standard ARM Linux kernel with some modules added to enable the special IPC that Dalvik uses.
As the owner of an N900, I would love to see this project gain momentum. I don't dislike the N900 hardware, it is actually quite decent but I would prefer a smaller, thinner and lighter phone with a capacitive screen.
Maybe MeeGo is the other option to consider since that OS will be designed much more in the open which would possibly make it easier to port to various devices. (Keep an eye on the meego website for the May release, which will be the first release with UX)
Also, my brother owns a Nexus One by my recommendation so porting Maemo to his phone would be great. (Unfortunately I'm not a developer so I would rely on this forum for a guide)
I am considering getting Nexus One. As I understand it supports messing with rootfs without restrictions. (Of course you loose warranty this way.)
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Keep an eye on the meego website for the May release, which will be the first release with UX.
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Starting with MeeGo base is a viable option.
But the upcoming UX release will be a direct port of current Moblin UI. Maemo is a different beast.
And I am against Maemo 6 migration to Qt, so I would like to stick with current Maemo 5.
With Maemo 5 being a fully functional OS I think it makes sense to try to port it directly first, however if that doesn't work then MeeGo might be another option.
After some research I found that nor Qualcomm MSM7200A, nor Samsung S3C6410 chips have open 3D driver available.
Since Maemo 5 UI requires working OpenGL ES acceleration for its desktop and window management, I guess this project is in a dead-end until I find viable platform for experimentation.
Maybe Mer is another option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565480
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=626287
http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2010/02/mer-project-just-bunch-of-redshirts.html
http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer
Without Maemo 5 visual effects it's soooooo stone age, that I don't really care for.
I'm wondering if it is possible to Dual Boot/Multi Boot Nook Tablet?
e.g. Android + Windows (of course the one for Tablets) OR Linux OR even iOS OR any other?
Anyone interested?
I can be part of this development, though i'm newbie in android world and mostly i'm playing with MatLab, C, C++, Jave (very less) etc. But i think i still can be useful somehow and i am also ready to use my NT for development/testing purpose (provided that i get some solution of backup/restore with apps installed)
thanks
I would consider looking up this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21323255
Adam provides a little bit of insight about dual booting from sdcard and more!
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windows 8 doesn't work on the Nook. Only the devices which come out with windows 8 can actually run windows 8. ios also doesn't work because there's no source code out there. Linux is under development, I think it's Adam Outler who does that.
yes, for windows/ios, may not possible but i think, linux is possible. i have been going through the threads. actually due to some hardware issues, like processor etc. NT can't be generalized. also, even with rooting, we are still far behind in using its true capabilities.
CM9 is on it's way. Currently sound doesn't work, the kernel paniks sometimes and some minor bugs are the problems for the devs.
well, looking forward for CM9. i hope it will give more freedom than existing root...
I looking forward for CM7, maybe alpha version will be release few next days.
No one interested in porting Windows Phone 7.x to the Dell Streak?
Trigger for me is the perfect working port on the HTC HD2, where both Android and Windows Phone 7.x are running. On this phone the Windows Phone version realy runs smoothly, far more better than the Android version.
My conclusion would be that since Android run smoothly on the Dell Streak, Windows Phone should really fly on our device!
So, is it (im)possible?
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No one interested in porting Windows Phone 7.x to the Dell Streak?
Trigger for me is the perfect working port on the HTC HD2, where both Android and Windows Phone 7.x are running. On this phone the Windows Phone version realy runs smoothly, far more better than the Android version.
My conclusion would be that since Android run smoothly on the Dell Streak, Windows Phone should really fly on our device!
So, is it (im)possible?
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it is not that we dont want to port.. but the thing is no working driver for streak 5... so... you have to understand this...
Well, was worth to try. Just couldn't imagine the impossibility since the HTC HD2 is able to run both. But the lack of working drivers is indeed a valid point. Well, I'm happy with my DSC 1.4 on my streak, so sticking on this version.
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No one interested in porting Windows Phone 7.x to the Dell Streak?
Trigger for me is the perfect working port on the HTC HD2, where both Android and Windows Phone 7.x are running. On this phone the Windows Phone version realy runs smoothly, far more better than the Android version.
My conclusion would be that since Android run smoothly on the Dell Streak, Windows Phone should really fly on our device!
So, is it (im)possible?
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I like your post! I was a die-hard "win-mo" every since my first htc tilt. But when the tilt-2 whipped my รคลก$ after 3 replacements I swore off and went to "Stepford Mens Association" and was cloned into an android and loved it every since! Never in a million megabytes had one decimal of interest in crapple phonage. But would like to see your idea in action. Cool !
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Well, was worth to try. Just couldn't imagine the impossibility since the HTC HD2 is able to run both. But the lack of working drivers is indeed a valid point. Well, I'm happy with my DSC 1.4 on my streak, so sticking on this version.
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you cant compare device that come from default windows vs native android you know... there also licensing issues might surface up whenever we involve ourselves in windows product you know.. that includes the driver.. you know those giant really have no mercy if it does not profits them :silly:
Hahahahaha......when you post the rom then microsoft will send you a legal letter.
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Licenses are the least of the issue, it's all drivers.
The HD2 and the tsunagi are the only non WP7 devices to get WP7, do you want to know why? Because microsoft and HTC/Toshiba made the drivers as those were the devices they used when they were initially building WP7.
The HD7 is basically a HD2+WP7, but they're different enough that the HD2's cam still has issues (or so I hear).
The only (realistic) way you're going to get WP7 at this point is to build a time machine and go back and convince dell to convince MS to reuse the S5 as a WP7 device in the same way the venue/venue pro are a pair.
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I moved on to another phone a while ago. But I have always loved my Atrix... Has anyone ever thought about seeing what kind of linux unit our phones could be? I mean, minimal phone code & use both processors for Ubuntu or whatever popular arm linux is available.
My main deal here is that the phone w/ the lapdock has always been an awesome wifi terminal. I just feel like half of it's processor is wasted running the phone UI. Anyone have any plans for a full linux Atrix project?
& yes, I already have ubuntop on my Atrix & have had it since it came out.
& yes, I know Canonical has already stated they are working on Ubuntu for phones, but the stench of their Vaporware is hurting.
It all comes down to the kernel. With the limited support we have for our device, it's hard enough trying to run android on the thing (ICS); an operating system which is "native" for phones, it'll be that much harder to port desktop Linux. Standard Linux kernel is starting to come with android stuff, but it's still going to need device specific patches.
Now if ubuntu comes out with a universal arm/tegra kernel, that would be kind of amazing.
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Ubuntu Just released this video showing off their new OS for tablets. In the video, they are using what looks like a Nexus 10. But what do you guys think? Would you use this if we were able to put it on our TouchPad? Don't know if that will be possible. But just asking to see what you guys think of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h384z7Ph0gU&hd=1
EDIT: Actually, I dont think our TouchPad meets the minimum requirements. But I guess we will see.
Good article on Engadget as well... looks promising
Just read this too, on omgubuntu.com really hoping it can be ported!
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If this is running on top of the latest version of Ubuntu for ARM and seeing that there are working versions of Ubuntu out there for the Touchpad, then it seems possible we would get this assuming its source code is released and someone is willing to port it. Their requirements are a bit steep (2GB RAM and Cortex A15 processor), but seeing that they are providing a test version for the Nexus 7 which is 1GB of RAM and quad core A9, then the Touchpad may be fine (not sure if the Touchpad is A8 or A9 or if that would even matter)
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If this is running on top of the latest version of Ubuntu for ARM and seeing that there are working versions of Ubuntu out there for the Touchpad, then it seems possible we would get this assuming its source code is released and someone is willing to port it. Their requirements are a bit steep (2GB RAM and Cortex A15 processor), but seeing that they are providing a test version for the Nexus 7 which is 1GB of RAM and quad core A9, then the Touchpad may be fine (not sure if the Touchpad is A8 or A9 or if that would even matter)
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I dont believe its running on the top of anything. Its its own OS. I'm hoping it could be ported to the TouchPad. I'd like to try it out.
Apps...
1. If my app isn't on Ubunto, well...
2. Webos was there...
3. But i think, windows 7 will be my last tie to Microsoft, if my app is on Ubunto.
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If this is running on top of the latest version of Ubuntu for ARM and seeing that there are working versions of Ubuntu out there for the Touchpad, then it seems possible we would get this assuming its source code is released and someone is willing to port it. Their requirements are a bit steep (2GB RAM and Cortex A15 processor), but seeing that they are providing a test version for the Nexus 7 which is 1GB of RAM and quad core A9, then the Touchpad may be fine (not sure if the Touchpad is A8 or A9 or if that would even matter)
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Actually the Touchpad has an A7. Here is a link comparing versions: http://www.bdti.com/InsideDSP/2011/11/17/ARM
That said, I like the new layout and just hope the Touchpad can run it smoothly. There is already a functional alpha of Ubuntu 13.04 for the touchpad (in the Other Development forum), so I can't imagine it will not happen.
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This is something I am really hoping can happen.
Is this what you're looking for? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146089
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Is this what you're looking for? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146089
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That is normal Ubuntu without the tablet interface but that alpha works really nice though. I'm an Ubuntu desktop user since 2008.
i would so love this. I want to check out this new mobile ubuntu so bad and would rather flash my touchpad than my galaxy nexus.
Here's hoping someone picks it up and makes it happen.
This is a good video of the OS running really well on the Nexus 10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XkyYKqKUYXA
Straight from Ubuntu's website, details are coming tomorrow about porting Ubuntu Mobile to other devices:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
Also of significance is a bunch of Cyanogenmod hardware code showing up on: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
I wonder if this means it will be easier to compile for devices supported by Cyanogenmod, which would make a Touchpad port much easier.
Awesome can't wit to try on nexus 7:good:
Is this the real deal http://thedroidguy.com/2013/02/ubun...-code-for-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-now-available/
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Awesome can't wit to try on nexus 7:good:
Is this the real deal http://thedroidguy.com/2013/02/ubun...-code-for-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-now-available/
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Its the real deal. You can get this on any Nexus device right now. Just be aware, its not fully functional. Its just a preview to show off what it will feel and look like when it is done. And if your a developer, it gives you something to test your apps out on. Thats it.
Hopefully, once the OS really matures and becomes functional, someone will build it for us, seeing as its just as easy as building CM 10.1
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
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The only problem with that is that we don't have CM10.1
CM10.1 is completely do-able for the TP. Many other devices using the same chip set are now into nightly builds. Its just a matter of setting it up for the TP. CN already as an alpha build in 4.2.1 for testing.
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10.1
I can not wait for 10.1 will be nice to be able to port Ubuntu to the touchpad.
Oh I'm excited and love a beautiful interface!
Pretty solid so far and you never know...the dHacker29 and Hashcode have already begun work on Ubuntu for the Droid Bionic and to me this means anything is possible.
All I need now is a way to running something like Safestrap and boot multiple builds on my Touchpad with 32gb of storage. I could see running webOS, JB, and Ubuntu for Tablets on my Touchpad. Sorli...