Hey peeps,
I flashed a firmware with a different product code to my Lumia 920, and everything works fine. It came with CV-HK but I flashed CV_AU (Australian unbranded).
Just wondering if I will receive OTA updates since the firmware uses a different product code?
I am worried that when Nokia stops allowing users to access NCS, that I will be forever stuck on the current build of the Aussie firmware and wont receive updates (if a future update process checks the product code and blocks the install).
Should I leave it, or should I flash the CV-HK back to the phone just incase?
So I guess that no one has any idea? I've asked everywhere and haven't been able to find an answer.
i think the product code is stored in permanent memory, so likely what will happen is that it will check for OTAs/updates based on your actual product code, basically if you update it will likely just reflash the branded software
Emba4 said:
i think the product code is stored in permanent memory, so likely what will happen is that it will check for OTAs/updates based on your actual product code, basically if you update it will likely just reflash the branded software
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I cant imagine an OTA update being 1.2 to 1.4GB. That is what it would take to re-flash a different firmware over the existing one.
I thought that it would notice an incorrect Product Code and not update, or hopefully it would just detect the ROM your using and flash the updated version of that.
Wish someone from Nokia/Microsoft could clarify. Time to hit twitter.
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I cant imagine an OTA update being 1.2 to 1.4GB. That is what it would take to re-flash a different firmware over the existing one.
I thought that it would notice an incorrect Product Code and not update, or hopefully it would just detect the ROM your using and flash the updated version of that.
Wish someone from Nokia/Microsoft could clarify. Time to hit twitter.
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Would also like to know. Can't find a South Africa Portico update so want to update to a EU variant atm but don't want to lose the South Africa Portico OTA when it is released.
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Hi all
I have been wondering how I can tell if the custom or claimed-to-be-official S2 ICS rom supports OTA upgrade?
I know it's perhaps impossible for those custom ones, but the ones I downloaded and flashed that claim 'official', how can I be sure if they supports OTA or not? I am a bit tired of keeping flashing the new versions after all.
Thank you!
it is strictly connected to your product code and region the ROM was released for - these two things have to match.
You will have OTA update if you're using ROM officially released for the region you have set in your phone. and you will get OTA updates only to other ROMs released for this region. few examples:
1. you have XEO product code and you use ROM officially released for XEO - you will get OTA updates but only to other ROMs released for XEO;
2. you have TWO product code but you have installed ROM released for XEO - you won't have OTA update at all (unless you change your PC according to you ROM release region - to XEO - and then, again, updates will be only to XEO ROMs)
3. you HAD XEO and ROM released for XEO, but for some reason you changed your PC to TWO - you won't have OTA update at all (unless you match your PC with region your ROM was released for again).
so, check your product code and the region your ROM was released for, match them however you want - change ROM or PC - and you will be having OTA updates. remember that changing PC is wiping all your data so do backup.
other thing is that you won't have OTA update if you use custom ROM, custom kernel or in some cases root (depending on the root method. rooting phone without making changes to kernel doesn't stop your device from getting OTA update until you make changes in your system).
gaeilge said:
it is strictly connected to your product code and region the ROM was released for - these two things have to match.
You will have OTA update if you're using ROM officially released for the region you have set in your phone. and you will get OTA updates only to other ROMs released for this region. few examples:
1. you have XEO product code and you use ROM officially released for XEO - you will get OTA updates but only to other ROMs released for XEO;
2. you have TWO product code but you have installed ROM released for XEO - you won't have OTA update at all (unless you change your PC according to you ROM release region - to XEO - and then, again, updates will be only to XEO ROMs)
3. you HAD XEO and ROM released for XEO, but for some reason you changed your PC to TWO - you won't have OTA update at all (unless you match your PC with region your ROM was released for again).
so, check your product code and the region your ROM was released for, match them however you want - change ROM or PC - and you will be having OTA updates. remember that changing PC is wiping all your data so do backup.
other thing is that you won't have OTA update if you use custom ROM, custom kernel or in some cases root (depending on the root method. rooting phone without making changes to kernel doesn't stop your device from getting OTA update until you make changes in your system).
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Thanks for the detailed response. So I guess I need to get a stock rom for Australia then as I bought the phone and am using it in Australia.
Where I can find it? What's the code for Australia market? XEO is just for Euro, rite?
Thanks!!
Get the PC version of Checkfus (search for it on here/Google) & download I9100XWLP8/I9100XSALP4/I9100XXLPS/I9100XWLP8 which is an unbranded Australian ICS stock rom. Flash it following the instructions in this thread. You can also download carrier branded ICS stock roms with Checkfus if that's your preference.
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Get the PC version of Checkfus (search for it on here/Google) & download I9100XWLP8/I9100XSALP4/I9100XXLPS/I9100XWLP8 which is an unbranded Australian ICS stock rom. Flash it following the instructions in this thread. You can also download carrier branded ICS stock roms with Checkfus if that's your preference.
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Thanks!
a few more questions:
1. How can I tell a ROM definitely supports OTA before I install it?
2. How can change my s2 region code to match the ROM's in order to get OTA working again?
3. what's the real difference between carrier branded rom and unbranded ones? e.g. is it better to use say telstra branded rom?
1. Be sure that ROM was released for the region/carrier which fits product code set in your phone - it's always written in ROM info on any download page I know. you may also adapt product code in your phone later, to fit the ROM you wish to use (in case you insist on FOTA/Kies updates).
2. *#272*IMEI# changes your product code. Remember that it wipes all your data.
3. Branded FW may include additional apps but also lot of operator's useless trash. Personally I never use branded ROMs and always suggest debranding. Check thread about chosen ROM for more info.
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1. Be sure that ROM was released for the region/carrier which fits product code set in your phone - it's always written in ROM info on any download page I know. you may also adapt product code in your phone later, to fit the ROM you wish to use (in case you insist on FOTA/Kies updates).
2. *#272*IMEI# changes your product code. Remember that it wipes all your data.
3. Branded FW may include additional apps but also lot of operator's useless trash. Personally I never use branded ROMs and always suggest debranding. Check thread about chosen ROM for more info.
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Thanks, Re #2, it seems strange that although I never used that command to change my code, only flashed a stock rom issued for another region a while ago, now the checkfus says my handset's the regional code that fits this new rom, other than the supposed-to-be australian one.
Is this normal? So the flashing process can actually alter the phone prod. region code without warning me?
Theoretically it shouldn't but s... happens. If you were flashing ROMs in which your product code wasn't available then it could adjust itself. Mostly I've seen situations when after such an ROM update, PC just wasn't available for change but it stayed the same as it was. On the second hand I've also heard about few cases like yours. Anyway, are you sure about your original PC if you never used this code option? Maybe originally it was different than you think it ought to be?
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You can also try www.sammobile.com for stock firmware. Just make sure that you input your device and region correctly
Edit : and you'll have to flash through odin
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gaeilge said:
Theoretically it shouldn't but s... happens. If you were flashing ROMs in which your product code wasn't available then it could adjust itself. Mostly I've seen situations when after such an ROM update, PC just wasn't available for change but it stayed the same as it was. On the second hand I've also heard about few cases like yours. Anyway, are you sure about your original PC if you never used this code option? Maybe originally it was different than you think it ought to be?
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Strange!
1. I use *#1234# command and found my rom info is I9100ZSLPG, which is for the region Hongkong - TGY
2. then I use *#272*imei#* (Product code) to check my phone's current CSC, which is shown already 'TGY'.
Now my question is, why my phone still can't get any OTA update?
Any other bit not matched? How to check if any?
Thanks.
Interestingly enough I have not seen any posts about ALF3. Seems most talk is about ALF2 and ALF6.
I got my phone with ALF2 and ran the update and got ALF3..
Anyone else on ALF3, should ALF6 be available? It's not for me.
-CC
Firmware version and update interval depend on your geographic location, installed firmware and carrier. It can take several months for certain regions to get newer versions.
Just flash the firmware of your choice through Odin and you're good to go if you care about being on the newest one.
d4fseeker said:
Firmware version and update interval depend on your geographic location, installed firmware and carrier. It can take several months for certain regions to get newer versions.
Just flash the firmware of your choice through Odin and you're good to go if you care about being on the newest one.
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I am using the international SCH-I9300 on an AT&T MVNO (Straight Talk) in the USA.
Thanks for your suggestion, I usually stick to stock rooted, but will look into what fixes features ALF6 has over ALF3 before proceeding. Being that the phone is still new to me, I like it as it is
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Hi Guys,
Just a quick question here that I cant seem to piece the answer together for. I have seen in the forum requests and talk about Three branded S3's and just wondered if anyone that has used it or knows more than I could tell me.
1) Apart from start-up logo is there anything else on a 3 branded phone that's missing or cant be removed without needing to be root or re-flashing it?
2) I directly asked the guys in the shop if they change the firmware/ROM and they said no when Samsung release updates you get them instantly, would that be true? I mean if its branded doesn't that mean it goes through the network to tinker before release?
I ask as my HTC Desire was from T-Mobile and they took so long to release the 2.3 update (If they ever did) I went custom ROM and while I can always go custom or flash an unbranded ROM out of the box I could just go to carphone warehouse, etc and buy it unbranded in the first place (For a slightly worse deal) and the fear I feel flashing a brand new phone is quite high
Thanks,
Snowdan.
Snowdan said:
Hi Guys,
Just a quick question here that I cant seem to piece the answer together for. I have seen in the forum requests and talk about Three branded S3's and just wondered if anyone that has used it or knows more than I could tell me.
1) Apart from start-up logo is there anything else on a 3 branded phone that's missing or cant be removed without needing to be root or re-flashing it?
2) I directly asked the guys in the shop if they change the firmware/ROM and they said no when Samsung release updates you get them instantly, would that be true?
That would be a first .
Easy to test 3UK will now be on LFB firmware in the UK and available OTA /Kies as an update since last week .##
jje
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Snowdan said:
Hi Guys,
Just a quick question here that I cant seem to piece the answer together for. I have seen in the forum requests and talk about Three branded S3's and just wondered if anyone that has used it or knows more than I could tell me.
1) Apart from start-up logo is there anything else on a 3 branded phone that's missing or cant be removed without needing to be root or re-flashing it?
2) I directly asked the guys in the shop if they change the firmware/ROM and they said no when Samsung release updates you get them instantly, would that be true? I mean if its branded doesn't that mean it goes through the network to tinker before release?
I ask as my HTC Desire was from T-Mobile and they took so long to release the 2.3 update (If they ever did) I went custom ROM and while I can always go custom or flash an unbranded ROM out of the box I could just go to carphone warehouse, etc and buy it unbranded in the first place (For a slightly worse deal) and the fear I feel flashing a brand new phone is quite high
Thanks,
Snowdan.
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i can tell you that its not true., i also purchased it on three UK and the firmware it came with was the inital release one which is I9300XXALE8_I9300H3GALE4_H3G which i believe was released in may, i tried to update to the latest one via ota and kies but it kept saying my software is uptodate. which was a lie. i then installed I9300XXALE8 (4.0.4) which is a unbranded version and check on kies and immediately it prompted me for an update I9300XXBLFB (4.0.4) which was released 26 June 2012. I9300BVALE4 (4.0.4) was released 13 May 2012.
i had to change the CSC so that kies would recognize my device and allow updates.
check this thread and video it'll explain all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646610
JJEgan said:
That would be a first .
Easy to test 3UK will now be on LFB firmware in the UK and available OTA /Kies as an update since last week .##
jje
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InevitableDJ said:
i can tell you that its not true., i also purchased it on three UK and the firmware it came with was the inital release one which is I9300XXALE8_I9300H3GALE4_H3G which i believe was released in may, i tried to update to the latest one via ota and kies but it kept saying my software is uptodate. which was a lie. i then installed I9300XXALE8 (4.0.4) which is a unbranded version and check on kies and immediately it prompted me for an update I9300XXBLFB (4.0.4) which was released 26 June 2012. I9300BVALE4 (4.0.4) was released 13 May 2012.
i had to change the CSC so that kies would recognize my device and allow updates.
check this thread and video it'll explain all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646610
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Thanks for the response guys it sounded unlikely. I will take the non optimal deal and have the unbranded out of the box just to save the upfront effort. Once I start flashing ROM's I find it hard t stop and would like to use this vanilla and unrooted (Hoping for Sky Go ICS support one of these days) for a bit.
Thanks,
Snowdan.
Hey guys, I am new to the S3 and Andriod as I used to be an iPhone user before. I bought a GT-i9300 from Hong Kong and brought it back to Canada and cant seem to get any software updates. I am currently sitting at build number I9300ZSALG3, just wondering if anyone could help me out doing an OTA update or via Kies or if this is the latest version. My baseband version is I9300XXLG3
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Hey guys, I am new to the S3 and Andriod as I used to be an iPhone user before. I bought a GT-i9300 from Hong Kong and brought it back to Canada and cant seem to get any software updates. I am currently sitting at build number I9300ZSALG3, just wondering if anyone could help me out doing an OTA update or via Kies or if this is the latest version. My baseband version is I9300XXLG3
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Your firmware is from Taiwan..and for it the latest version is what you are currently using..however you dont need to wait for updates you can download firmware for United Kingdom the latest is I9300XXBLG8..you can download it from here..
http://samsung-updates.com/get/58/Samsung_Firmware_GT-I9300_BTU_I9300XXBLG8_Android_4_0_4.html
then flash it via odin...search these threads for the method to do so..
Hi man, Unlike iphone,offical rom is always the worst one.It usually uses more memory and have bad battery management.You can try another rom such as mike's.
Sent from my lovely GT-I9300,by the way,I'm a Chinese!Glad to communicate with you
zoot1 said:
Your firmware is from Taiwan..and for it the latest version is what you are currently using..however you dont need to wait for updates you can download firmware for United Kingdom the latest is I9300XXBLG8..you can download it from here..
then flash it via odin...search these threads for the method to do so..
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Thank you! I am not too familiar with flashing with Android again because it is something new and if anything were to happen I wouldn't know how to fix it since I have been an iPhone user. Is flashing firmware any different from jailbreaking the iPhone? - in terms of being safer. Also, how can I be 100% sure that the UK version will work on my phone as well as keep my unlock.
xiuluozhang said:
Hi man, Unlike iphone,offical rom is always the worst one.It usually uses more memory and have bad battery management.You can try another rom such as mike's.
Sent from my lovely GT-I9300,by the way,I'm a Chinese!Glad to communicate with you
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Hey, again as I said to the previous member, I am not too familiar with flashing nor am I keen on doing it just because I am new to the Android community
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Thank you! I am not too familiar with flashing with Android again because it is something new and if anything were to happen I wouldn't know how to fix it since I have been an iPhone user. Is flashing firmware any different from jailbreaking the iPhone? - in terms of being safer. Also, how can I be 100% sure that the UK version will work on my phone as well as keep my unlock.
Hey, again as I said to the previous member, I am not too familiar with flashing nor am I keen on doing it just because I am new to the Android community
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Flashing the firmware is 100% safe if you follow the steps..it does not root your phone so it is not jailbreaking...so you will also not loose your warranty...
the firmwares are almost the same for every region, samsung being an a***le released different firmwares for different regions with different CSC....
but i am quite sure it will work on you region as you are already using Taiwan firmware in Canada...in any case download the Taiwan specific firmware also..so if anything goes wrong you can revert back...
by the way I am in India using BTU firmware..
Me too...
Along the same lines, I have an I-9300 sgs3 with South Africa firmware (XFE), i9300xxale9, but I'm using it in the United States, on AT&T, and am not able to receive updates thru either Kies or Update menu. I will NOT be traveling outside the US anytime soon. What should I load that would let me receive updates here in the States OTA?
It's my first time here, and much of this is new to me.
Anyways, I have an S21 (Snapdragon) with Multi-CSC? OYN, XAA/XAA/XAA that I use in Singapore. (SM-G991U)
I just learnt that apparently OTA updates are only given after the location of where the device is being used corresponds with the CSC.
What would my options be now, to update my phone? (Being able to have OTA updates would be preferable)
I know of (just learnt):
• Changing CSC via the phone app (using IMEI number). Never tried and I don't know if I'll get an error code. My main concern is that I'll not be able to update if I get firmware for Exynos instead (S21s in Singapore are Exynos), if I even get a Singaporean CSC on there.
• Flashing/ updating using Odin? (Heard it doesn't work anymore for changing CSC? I have One UI 3.1)
• Updating using ADB?
I'd love to learn something about this whole CSC mess too so I can understand what's happening and how everything works. And if it's not possible to get OTA updates, the best way to update my phone then. Thanks
mavcyh said:
It's my first time here, and much of this is new to me.
Anyways, I have an S21 (Snapdragon) with Multi-CSC? OYN, XAA/XAA/XAA that I use in Singapore. (SM-G991U)
I just learnt that apparently OTA updates are only given after the location of where the device is being used corresponds with the CSC.
What would my options be now, to update my phone? (Being able to have OTA updates would be preferable)
I know of (just learnt):
• Changing CSC via the phone app (using IMEI number). Never tried and I don't know if I'll get an error code. My main concern is that I'll not be able to update if I get firmware for Exynos instead (S21s in Singapore are Exynos), if I even get a Singaporean CSC on there.
• Flashing/ updating using Odin? (Heard it doesn't work anymore for changing CSC? I have One UI 3.1)
• Updating using ADB?
I'd love to learn something about this whole CSC mess too so I can understand what's happening and how everything works. And if it's not possible to get OTA updates, the best way to update my phone then. Thanks
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Hi Mate
OTA are strictly Active CSC related , independent of the country you are using the phone. I have Spanish active CSC and i get the OTA in Panama
So you will get a new OTA as soon as available , the latest for you CSC (XAA) firmware is:
Date
Version
2021-06-27
11
PDA
CSC
G991U1UEU4AUF5
G991U1OYM4AUF5
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s21/firmware/SM-G991U1/XAA/download/G991U1UEU4AUF5/1557396/
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s21/firmware/SM-G991U1/XAA/download/G991U1UEU4AUF5/1557396/
You can change the CSC but it will depend in what firmware you have and what CSC available that firmware has.
To your questions
1 You will not get an Exynos firmware in your phone as you can not force an exynos CSC into an Snapdragon , Singapore does not have Snapdragon firmware , so you can not force a Singapore CSC into your phone
2 Flashing new firmware does not change the CSC anymore ( in my case did not)
3 Update with ADB ? not sure what you mean but if you mean firmware , no is not possible
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Hi Mate
OTA are strictly Active CSC related , independent of the country you are using the phone. I have Spanish active CSC and i get the OTA in Panama
So you will get a new OTA as soon as available , the latest for you CSC (XAA) firmware is:
Date
Version
2021-06-27
11
PDA
CSC
G991U1UEU4AUF5
G991U1OYM4AUF5
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s21/firmware/SM-G991U1/XAA/download/G991U1UEU4AUF5/1557396/
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s21/firmware/SM-G991U1/XAA/download/G991U1UEU4AUF5/1557396/
You can change the CSC but it will depend in what firmware you have and what CSC available that firmware has.
To your questions
1 You will not get an Exynos firmware in your phone as you can not force an exynos CSC into an Snapdragon , Singapore does not have Snapdragon firmware , so you can not force a Singapore CSC into your phone
2 Flashing new firmware does not change the CSC anymore ( in my case did not)
3 Update with ADB ? not sure what you mean but if you mean firmware , no is not possible
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Thanks for the reply. Problem is, I've constantly checked for updates but I'm still stuck on the February patch which should actually have even came preinstalled on the phone. (basically, I've not received a single OTA update). This has led me to believe that the country you use your phone in affects receiving OTA updates.
I doubt there's other reasons why I wouldn't receive the updates (since other people have said that location/ connecting to the telco network? affects OTA updates).
Anyways, so to clarify, my only options to update then would be to use:
• Smart Switch (holding off because it is disabled from an app having device ownership)
• ADB (sideloading OTA update)
• Odin (unfamiliar with its uses)
I'm just looking for the path of least resistance to get my phone updated right now. And just to confirm, updating/ flashing (are they the same?) software will not wipe my phone?
Thanks.
mavcyh said:
Thanks for the reply. Problem is, I've constantly checked for updates but I'm still stuck on the February patch which should actually have even came preinstalled on the phone. (basically, I've not received a single OTA update). This has led me to believe that the country you use your phone in affects receiving OTA updates.
I doubt there's other reasons why I wouldn't receive the updates (since other people have said that location/ connecting to the telco network? affects OTA updates).
Anyways, so to clarify, my only options to update then would be to use:
• Smart Switch (holding off because it is disabled from an app having device ownership)
• ADB (sideloading OTA update)
• Odin (unfamiliar with its uses)
I'm just looking for the path of least resistance to get my phone updated right now. And just to confirm, updating/ flashing (are they the same?) software will not wipe my phone?
Thanks.
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Hi
Is hard to say what really going on , as i said I have an active CSC from one country and live in another and get the OTA with no problem ( lot of people do)
Easiest option for me would be doing updates manually with odin , download the correct firmware and flash using the home-csc file , that way the phone will not be wipe , will be like a regular OTA
Check this threads , here and here even if the thread talks about an exynos the procedure is still valid for a snapdragon
I still dont get OTAs. I flahed BTU, PHE and OXD but nothing. anyone else facing this?
I flahed with odin.