Want to upgrade to the note 2 and keep unlimited data (Without adding a line) - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Alright three days ago I upgraded to the galaxy note 2 from the 3g samsung fasinate and I found a little loophole while activating the phone that let me keep my unlimited data.
Alright so first off my upgrade was filed through bestbuy.com I recieved my phone very fast (2days). When I recieved my phone you get everything you need to activate it your self including the 4g sim card so no need to go to a vzw store. So everthing is pretty straight forward like activating any phone on the website. Start off at your account page follow the steps for activation. Until you get to the select a new plan page in which it will say "your new device is not compatable with your current data plan" now from this you will see the current selected data plan is your unlimited. At this step without selecting any of the other data plan options (2gb 4gb and so on) just hit the select/continue option and finsh the rest of the on screen instructions. At the end of the activation you will see "congratulations your new device is activated" and a basic summary of the changes to your plan. For me the removal of 3g and the addtion of 4g.
Well I hope some of you can benefit from this....

I have a feeling you may find out in a month or so that you don't have unlimited data anymore.

I bought my note 2 in a VZW store outright. If you use a lot of data the phone will pay for its self.

Another loophole is to transfer your upgrade to a dumphone (assuming you have a dumbphone on your account), upgrade that line to a GN2, keeping unlimited on your other lines and adding a tiered plan to this line, activate, deactivate and put the flip phone back on which will cancel the tiered data plan again leaving your other lines untouched, move the GN2 to the line of your choice. You may potentially receive a months data on your next bill. Call 611 and explain the situation and you'll be credited back for the month (minus a day) on your next bill.
I've done it twice now. Enjoy!
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jmorton10 said:
I have a feeling you may find out in a month or so that you don't have unlimited data anymore.
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I just laughed out loud. Exactly what I was thinking.
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jmorton10 said:
I have a feeling you may find out in a month or so that you don't have unlimited data anymore.
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Be sure to report back and let us know if you still have your original plan!

joshw0000 said:
Another loophole is to transfer your upgrade to a dumphone (assuming you have a dumbphone on your account), upgrade that line to a GN2, keeping unlimited on your other lines and adding a tiered plan to this line, activate, deactivate and put the flip phone back on which will cancel the tiered data plan again leaving your other lines untouched, move the GN2 to the line of your choice. You may potentially receive a months data on your next bill. Call 611 and explain the situation and you'll be credited back for the month (minus a day) on your next bill.
I've done it twice now. Enjoy!
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Mind if I ask a question -- after you've done that, on which line does the new two-year commitment go? The dumb line or the line with the transferred note 2? Also, how much do you pay per month for the dumb line? Thanks...

billku said:
Mind if I ask a question -- after you've done that, on which line does the new two-year commitment go? The dumb line or the line with the transferred note 2? Also, how much do you pay per month for the dumb line? Thanks...
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I'm guessing to the line where the upgrade originated (smart phone). It now has the longest upgrade availability date under My Verizon.
I have 700 minutes w/ unlimited texts. Each smart phone (except the first one) has unlimited data ($30) and $10 add on. Dumb phone is just a $10 add on.
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joshw0000 said:
I'm guessing to the line where the upgrade originated (smart phone). It now has the longest upgrade availability date under My Verizon.
I have 700 minutes w/ unlimited texts. Each smart phone (except the first one) has unlimited data ($30) and $10 add on. Dumb phone is just a $10 add on.
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Thanks so much! Will try this next month to get an iPhone 5 for my wife (can't keep her on the Android bandwagon, darn it... )

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I just laughed out loud. Exactly what I was thinking.
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Well I will report back at the end of the month...

joshw0000 said:
Another loophole is to transfer your upgrade to a dumphone (assuming you have a dumbphone on your account), upgrade that line to a GN2, keeping unlimited on your other lines and adding a tiered plan to this line, activate, deactivate and put the flip phone back on which will cancel the tiered data plan again leaving your other lines untouched, move the GN2 to the line of your choice. You may potentially receive a months data on your next bill. Call 611 and explain the situation and you'll be credited back for the month (minus a day) on your next bill.
I've done it twice now. Enjoy!
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This was the trick I used to use, but according to my coworkers this stopped working. Now it supposedly gets switched automatically to a 2gb plan. I was told this last week.
Sooner or later Verizon will catch on and fix these loopholes.

AcE XBOX said:
This was the trick I used to use, but according to my coworkers this stopped working. Now it supposedly gets switched automatically to a 2gb plan. I was told this last week.
Sooner or later Verizon will catch on and fix these loopholes.
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Crap. Can anyone else confirm this no longer works?

billku said:
Crap. Can anyone else confirm this no longer works?
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Still worked for me a week ago.

I did it over the phone when the i5's first released and a few weeks ago for the GN2. Ask a rep, worst they can say is no. But ask 2 or 3 more before giving up until you find one that understands what you're trying to do and has done it before.
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The upgrade I plan to transfer to my dumb phone doesn't come up until end of the month, I will pray you guys are right and it's still working then...

billku said:
Crap. Can anyone else confirm this no longer works?
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I just received my Note2 yesterday and had ordered it by calling and was told specifically I would not lose my unlimited data as I have a dummy line I used for upgrading . I have yet to activate it as I have a GNex on my unlimited line now. But I will activate tomorrow when I can actually call and speak to someone and switdh the upgrade to my unlimited data line and keep the non smart phone thats on the dummy line as it is and not have to have a tiered plan for the extra line, Basically its my sons line who doesnt need a smart phone and I used his upgrade, done it before on two other lines for my daughters lines in the past without losing my unlimited. If I get a different response tomorrow when I call to do the switch and activation I have two options I can do- 1- return the note to them and stay with my GNEX unlimited plan. Option 2 would be to tell Verizon to go &%^themselves and not return their note2 and good luck getting any early term fees and go somewhere else . All depends on them!! I hear TMob will be offering a $250 mail in rebate on the Note2 next month bringing the cost to only $49 plus fees with contract-? and unlimited as well.

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I just received my Note2 yesterday and had ordered it by calling and was told specifically I would not lose my unlimited data as I have a dummy line I used for upgrading . I have yet to activate it as I have a GNex on my unlimited line now. But I will activate tomorrow when I can actually call and speak to someone and switdh the upgrade to my unlimited data line and keep the non smart phone thats on the dummy line as it is and not have to have a tiered plan for the extra line, Basically its my sons line who doesnt need a smart phone and I used his upgrade, done it before on two other lines for my daughters lines in the past without losing my unlimited. If I get a different response tomorrow when I call to do the switch and activation I have two options I can do- 1- return the note to them and stay with my GNEX unlimited plan. Option 2 would be to tell Verizon to go &%^themselves and not return their note2 and good luck getting any early term fees and go somewhere else . All depends on them!! I hear TMob will be offering a $250 mail in rebate on the Note2 next month bringing the cost to only $49 plus fees with contract-? and unlimited as well.
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Will you post and let us know how it goes? Thanks so much!

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Will you post and let us know how it goes? Thanks so much!
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For sure I will. I have done this before recently and didn't have a problem. I have 5 lines in all for my family and used one for wife's new phone, But if Verizon wants to keep screwing their long time customers (15+ years) with the bogus share everything crap, I will not have any issues screwing back! For sure ill post back tomorrow after.

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For sure I will ll. I have done this before recently and didn't have a problem. I have 5 lines in all for my family and used one for wife's new phone, But if Verizon wants to keep screwing their long time customers (15+ years) with the bogus share everything crap, I will not have any issues screwing back! For sure ill post back tomorrow after.
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Looking forward to it, thanks so much for your help!

I used a dummy phone to keep my unlimited on Jan 2nd with no problems. I have a friend who works for Verizon and he makes sure everything goes smoothly.
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Adding new line doesn't work on Shared Data

So I wanted to add a new line for $10 a month and get the Note 2. Apparently that doesn't work on that plan. Only unlimited data plan. I wasn't about to pay $30 a month for a flip phone so i asked nicely and they gave me an upgrade early. Was supposed to be march. YMMV but it may work for you all also on shared data and no upgrade.
I decided to get the RAZR MAXX HD until next week, that way i'll exchange and only pay restocking fee. Needed something now since my Gnex is crapping on me.
So they let you upgrade 4 months in advance? They won't even let me upgrade 1 month in advance...
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I don't think this applies to my family plan. I have unlimited data, my sister has a shared data plan, and my two parents have no data. We pay $30 for her data, $30 for mine, + $10/line for all our lines + our base plan. We can add another line np for $10 and add a dummy phone. There is no extra charge for data, I don't think, for adding a line and using a shared data package...
Like i said, guess it works only on Family plans or plans with unlimited data.
Shared data it does not. They wanted $30 a month for a flip phone. That's a joke! lol
and for Lambo, call corporate. Be nice and talk to them. I'm sure they'd love to help you like they did for me.
computingwarren said:
Like i said, guess it works only on Family plans or plans with unlimited data.
Shared data it does not. They wanted $30 a month for a flip phone. That's a joke! lol
and for Lambo, call corporate. Be nice and talk to them. I'm sure they'd love to help you like they did for me.
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There was nothing about family plans in op just data packages. Unless you go back and ninja edit.
Unless you have a tablet with built in Verizon. Then you can add a line then change it to the +10 $ a month tablet line
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Can this work
I have a family plan with 2 smartphones with unlimited data, 2 regular flip phones and my daughters is 2 gb a month, on the 2 unlimited I have a upgrade,,..
what Im wanting to do is have my 2 upgrades swapped to my regular flip phones and take those flip phones with new upgrades and upgrade both to 2 note2,,..
then when I get them home, swap them to my unlimited data lines, and keep my unlimited data -is this possible?- also all this is thru verizons call in site, thanks for helping in advance.
I got a family plan. Can I go into the store, add another line, activate the note 2 onto my line, activate a dumb phone on the new line n still keep my unlimited data?
Or I got an upgrade. Can I swap my upgrade to one of the lines that has tiered data n still keep my unlimited?
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xXJay_RXx said:
I got a family plan. Can I go into the store, add another line, activate the note 2 onto my line, activate a dumb phone on the new line n still keep my unlimited data?
Or I got an upgrade. Can I swap my upgrade to one of the lines that has tiered data n still keep my unlimited?
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Pretty sure if you upgrade the tiered one then activate the Note on there then deactivate it then activate it on the unlimited you'll be fine.
JetBlue said:
Pretty sure if you upgrade the tiered one then activate the Note on there then deactivate it then activate it on the unlimited you'll be fine.
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But I got an upgrade on mine that's unlimited. The tiered line doesn't have an upgrade until 2013. Can I transfer my upgrade to the tiered line to get the note at a cheaper price instead of full price?
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xXJay_RXx said:
But I got an upgrade on mine that's unlimited. The tiered line doesn't have an upgrade until 2013. Can I transfer my upgrade to the tiered line to get the note at a cheaper price instead of full price?
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I don't think so. Someone else here got an early upgrade and said vzw told them whenever you utilize the jpgrade, even if it was a xfer, they will knock you onto a shared plan.
kimdoocheol said:
I don't think so. Someone else here got an early upgrade and said vzw told them whenever you utilize the jpgrade, even if it was a xfer, they will knock you onto a shared plan.
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Yea that's what Verizon told me when I called them. I got my answers from them. Thanks for any help guys
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Yes you can swap upgrades- my neighbor had a upgrade on a unlimited device in her family plan and swapped the upgrade to her sons flip phone, then she bought a smartphone on the flip phone line and when she got home she switched the smartphone to her unlimited line and kept flip phone on the upgraded line, so yes you can. so she answered my question I had posted earlier.
she said be sure and watch all your other upgrade dates because sometimes the line that had the original upgrade will change dates too.
nutpn said:
Yes you can swap upgrades- my neighbor had a upgrade on a unlimited device in her family plan and swapped the upgrade to her sons flip phone, then she bought a smartphone on the flip phone line and when she got home she switched the smartphone to her unlimited line and kept flip phone on the upgraded line, so yes you can. so she answered my question I had posted earlier.
she said be sure and watch all your other upgrade dates because sometimes the line that had the original upgrade will change dates too.
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This doesn't mean unlimited was retained. VZW has done some pretty shady stuff with switching people's service due to upgrades/abuse of network. Maybe this was also in the past when they didn't care so much that people had unlimited data, but now they will practically do anything to push you off o fit.
Looks like I'll be on craigslist buying my note 2..what do y'all think is a fair price 500?
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Admiral2145 said:
Looks like I'll be on craigslist buying my note 2..what do y'all think is a fair price 500?
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400-450
Admiral2145 said:
Looks like I'll be on craigslist buying my note 2..what do y'all think is a fair price 500?
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kimdoocheol said:
400-450
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That seems kind of low for a phone that costs $300 with an upgrade, no?
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That seems kind of low for a phone that costs $300 with an upgrade, no?
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I think most will price it at 500. That being said, some people will try to undercut IMO around 450-475 to sell it faster than the people who sell it at 500. Offer around 400-425 and I'm sure you can find someone if you have cash in hand and will pick it up that day. I personally am not payin much more than that for a phone on Craigslist unless we meet at a store, they upgrade get the n2, and I get the box brand new in hand. Otherwise i may as well pay the extra 200 myself and for sure not get stabbed and or robbed.
Fot those who swapp upgrades make sure you activate the phone first on the upgraded line then and only then ypu can switch it to your unlimited line without any issues
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DROID3R said:
Fot those who swapp upgrades make sure you activate the phone first on the upgraded line then and only then ypu can switch it to your unlimited line without any issues
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple
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what would happen if you didn't do that?
I got my dad a 6 month early upgrade and used it to order the note ii
i never per-se activated the device though, i just bypassed the activation screen by hitting the bottom two corners and then volume down, played with the phone for a bit, then after my gs3 copied all of my data off the phone to my sd cars, i popped my sim card in and voila, it worked!
did i do something wrong, i don't want to lose unlimited

Verizon gave me an early upgrade

Spent some time with VZ customer service today and finally got them to throw me an early upgrade to get the note 2. original update was 5/13. The only restriction they gave me on the upgrade was I couldn't use it to purchase any Apple products
I'm letting my All you can eat data go in lieu of family data. I'm not paying 1500.00 for my wifes and my note 2.
Wait so you got an upgrade but still kept your unlimited data?
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xXJay_RXx said:
Wait so you got an upgrade but still kept your unlimited data?
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No, he lost it. It says in his second line break.
i still have unlimited data after they gave my account the upgrade. I lose the unlimited data once I use the upgrade, or that what the rep led me to believe.
randpost said:
i still have unlimited data after they gave my account the upgrade. I lose the unlimited data once I use the upgrade, or that what the rep led me to believe.
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Since it was a family plan, why didn't you open a new line and do the upgrade that way? IMO, losing unlimited data is not worth it...$30/month = unlimitd or $30 / month = 2gb. I'd pretty much have to buy into their 10gb plan, which is way too much for our family/just me. If you use netflix, dropbox, etc... it just isn't worth it. You'll eat that data in no time.
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Since it was a family plan, why didn't you open a new line and do the upgrade that way? IMO, losing unlimited data is not worth it...$30/month = unlimitd or $30 / month = 2gb. I'd pretty much have to buy into their 10gb plan, which is way too much for our family/just me. If you use netflix, dropbox, etc... it just isn't worth it. You'll eat that data in no time.
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So I can open a new line on my family plan n keep my unlimited data?
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So I can open a new line on my family plan n keep my unlimited data?
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Open new line and use it to get discounted Note 2. Activate Note 2 on that line. Then deactivate Note 2 and swap it to your existing line that has unlimited data. Then drop the new line down to a standard "dumbphone" package and keep a feature phone activated on it as a spare/emergency device. Basically you will be on the hook for keeping the new line active for 2 years at the cost of $10.00 per month + taxes and fees.
It is a roundabout way and in the long run you end up paying quite a bit. But for some people it is worth it to keep the unlimited data.
TheDroidLurker said:
Open new line and use it to get discounted Note 2. Activate Note 2 on that line. Then deactivate Note 2 and swap it to your existing line that has unlimited data. Then drop the new line down to a standard "dumbphone" package and keep a feature phone activated on it as a spare/emergency device. Basically you will be on the hook for keeping the new line active for 2 years at the cost of $10.00 per month + taxes and fees.
It is a roundabout way and in the long run you end up paying quite a bit. But for some people it is worth it to keep the unlimited data.
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I tried doing it online n it won't let me. I have 4 lines already so I guess that's why :/ but I thought this trick no longer worked
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Your best bet is to go into a store. I have done this twice now to get new phones. I have 3 active lines, 2 of which have unlimited data. The 4th line is my ghost line. In December I'll be upgrading one if the unlimited data lines to get the note 2. That line never uses more than 500mb of data anyways. After that I will have revolving upgrades every 6 months.... I'll just keep putting the new device on my primary line
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Your best bet is to go into a store. I have done this twice now to get new phones. I have 3 active lines, 2 of which have unlimited data. The 4th line is my ghost line. In December I'll be upgrading one if the unlimited data lines to get the note 2. That line never uses more than 500mb of data anyways. After that I will have revolving upgrades every 6 months.... I'll just keep putting the new device on my primary line
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So I just go into a store n ask to add a new line n then try to talk them into keeping my unlimited data or what
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Yea. Just tell them to activate the new phone on your primary line. You will need to activate a dumb phone on it though. If u have an old one then use it
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Yea. Just tell them to activate the new phone on your primary line. You will need to activate a dumb phone on it though. If u have an old one then use it
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Oh okay thank you. I'll try that when I go into the store when its released. I'm not trying to lose my unlimited data. I have used 10GB n I'm 15 days into my cycle. No way can I go without unlimited data lol
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What I am going to do is use my upgrade (even though it will nuke my unlimited data) and then swap lines with my wife. She rarely uses more than 1 GB. So I can put her on the 2GB plan and then swap my phone over to her line which still has unlimited. I would like to swap the numbers as well but from everything I have read, VZW won't do it. Number change? yes. Swap? no.
randpost said:
Spent some time with VZ customer service today and finally got them to throw me an early upgrade to get the note 2. original update was 5/13. The only restriction they gave me on the upgrade was I couldn't use it to purchase any Apple products
I'm letting my All you can eat data go in lieu of family data. I'm not paying 1500.00 for my wifes and my note 2.
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How did u get them to get u an early upgrade? I've tried a couple times and they have told me no : ( my upgrade is also 5/2013
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How did u get them to get u an early upgrade? I've tried a couple times and they have told me no : ( my upgrade is also 5/2013
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You have to have a reason for an early upgrade especially one half a year away. I had returned 2 Galaxy Nexus for problems I was having in the past, and although I wasn't having problems with my current Galaxy Nexus, I used my satisfaction with that phone as leverage.
Have been a customer for 6 years and my bill is currently over 300.00 a month.
Maybe those facts help me? I don't know.
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You have to have a reason for an early upgrade especially one half a year away. I had returned 2 Galaxy Nexus for problems I was having in the past, and although I wasn't having problems with my current Galaxy Nexus, I used my satisfaction with that phone as leverage.
Have been a customer for 6 years and my bill is currently over 300.00 a month.
Maybe those facts help me? I don't know.
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This gives me hope that I can call up Verizon sometime in December and get my upgrade moved up from the end of January
Edit: Gave Verizon a call. They were really nice, but I was told that just like the iPhone 5, I couldn't be upgraded early at the reduced amount for the Note 2. The lady I was talking to was really sweet though, and she said she was going to see if she could find out why the Note 2 has the same restrictions the iPhone 5 does.
Advice please?
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Spent some time with VZ customer service today and finally got them to throw me an early upgrade to get the note 2. original update was 5/13. The only restriction they gave me on the upgrade was I couldn't use it to purchase any Apple products
I'm letting my All you can eat data go in lieu of family data. I'm not paying 1500.00 for my wifes and my note 2.
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My update isn't due until May of next year as well. I originally had the Bionic, and then I needed an insurance replacement and they gave me a bad Razr, so then I was sent another Razr. This "new" phone constantly shuts off and freezes and has issues. I truly want the Note 2. How long did it take you to get them to agree to moving your upgrade? Could you give me some specifics? Was it over the phone or in the store? Your help is greatly appreciated! I too would be losing my unlimited, but at this point I don't care.
P.s. Congrats on getting the Note 2!
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This gives me hope that I can call up Verizon sometime in December and get my upgrade moved up from the end of January
Edit: Gave Verizon a call. They were really nice, but I was told that just like the iPhone 5, I couldn't be upgraded early at the reduced amount for the Note 2. The lady I was talking to was really sweet though, and she said she was going to see if she could find out why the Note 2 has the same restrictions the iPhone 5 does.
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I'm not sure why she said you couldn't early upgrade to the note 2. Not sure what your full circumstances are, try to get a level two CSR or higher as soon as possible without sounding ungrateful.
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My update isn't due until May of next year as well. I originally had the Bionic, and then I needed an insurance replacement and they gave me a bad Razr, so then I was sent another Razr. This "new" phone constantly shuts off and freezes and has issues. I truly want the Note 2. How long did it take you to get them to agree to moving your upgrade? Could you give me some specifics? Was it over the phone or in the store? Your help is greatly appreciated! I too would be losing my unlimited, but at this point I don't care.
P.s. Congrats on getting the Note 2!
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It was my first call and about 1 hour of total time before I got my upgrade. I called up and voiced my concerns with data connectivity and stated I wanted an early upgrade and went into the fact that I'm a long time customer with six years of on time payments and a fairly hefty monthly bill. She said she had to talk to someone else and came back and rejected my early upgrade. I asked if I could speak to someone else who could address my concerns without having to ask someone else. After a few minutes on hold, I was directed to someone who had a better grasp at customer service, not that the first lady was bad, but this guy was better. He basically heard me out and went ahead and granted my request. He went into some finer detail about not being able to early upgrade to any apple products, but that was the only restriction to his early upgrade powers.
My whole reason for calling was to get a Note 2, I just used the Galaxy Nexus as my entry point into the house of early upgrades.
might do this with my kids lines that come up in feb. they can live on 2gb a month, won't kill them.

DNA upgrade.. unlimited data

so this doesn't pertain just to the DNA but I upgraded to the DNA Friday morning via Best Buy.com website and i received the phone today and both my lines still have unlimited data...
when i was upgrading it initially gave me a pop up saying i would have to choose a new data plan but during the upgrade process it never asked me to pick a new data plan and on my purchase info it stated keep same plan.. the contract has been added to my account as my upgrade date on My verizon has changed.. but the line I upgraded on still shows unlimited data!!
I can't promise this will work again but it's worth a shot if you really want to keep unlimited data!!
I'll be very interested to hear if Verizon catches this and changes your plan in the next couple months, keep us updated!
geoff5093 said:
I'll be very interested to hear if Verizon catches this and changes your plan in the next couple months, keep us updated!
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i am interested too..
the upgrade was on my wife's phone which doesn't need unlimited data anyway so that is why i took the chance with the upgrade.. if they change her plan to the $30 2GB option it won't be the end of the world..
lazarus2297 said:
i am interested too..
the upgrade was on my wife's phone which doesn't need unlimited data anyway so that is why i took the chance with the upgrade.. if they change her plan to the $30 2GB option it won't be the end of the world..
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If you transfer an upgrade, even from another unlimited data smartphone line, to your own, to get the DNA, the replacement of the unlimited data plan does not retroactively apply - that's how I ended up having unlimited data after transferring an upgrade from a (willing) sibling's line, both of us having unlimited data before my purchase of the DNA.
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If you transfer an upgrade, even from another unlimited data smartphone line, to your own, to get the DNA, the replacement of the unlimited data plan does not retroactively apply - that's how I ended up having unlimited data after transferring an upgrade from a (willing) sibling's line, both of us having unlimited data before my purchase of the DNA.
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well i didn't transfer the upgrade i upgraded my wife's line to the DNA (she currently has an iPhone 5, but was out of contract) they sent the phone with a new sim card... when i got the phone i took the pre-installed sim out of the DNA put mine in..
I know you can transfer upgrades but that isn't how i did this one.
so before the upgrade we both had the 29.99 unlimited data.. on verizon's site it was making me change her data to the $30 2gb plan but on bestbuy's site it never asked/made me change her plan in fact it even says keep existing data plan on my invoice.
I had unlimited data but used the upgrade from my line which should have lost it for me but my VZW account still shows unlimited as well. I assume the 2gb plan will kick in at the start of my next billing cycle. Interestingly, I also switched the pre-installed sim with the one from my GNex. Maybe I'll get lucky and somehow keep unlimited... but I doubt it.
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I had unlimited data but used the upgrade from my line which should have lost it for me but my VZW account still shows unlimited as well. I assume the 2gb plan will kick in at the start of my next billing cycle. Interestingly, I also switched the pre-installed sim with the one from my GNex. Maybe I'll get lucky and somehow keep unlimited... but I doubt it.
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who did you upgrade with? straight through verizon or some 3rd party?
I did the upgrade on the 23rd so that was 2 days into my billing cycle so i guess in theory they could change the plan on the 22nd of December when my new billing period starts.. but if they do I will call CS and argue.. since my info i recieved from BBY when i upgraded showed keep same data plan..
I upgraded through VZW. I preordered through the website on the 18th. My billing cycle resets on the 14th so I'll know for sure in a couple weeks.
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Good luck. I had a similar setup going with AT&T and they finally hit me with "That plan isn't compatible with your phone." and switched me to a tiered plan. That was when I decided to switch to VZW. I will likely buy my future devices from e-bay or another source to ensure I have unlimited data as long as possible.
Thats cool. Ill keep my fingers crossed. Only loophole(besides alternate upgrade) to keep unlimited data.
I used my bro's upgrade to get the DNA on verizon and I lost unlimited data. Stuck with 2 GB for the same price. Hope they bring back that promotion of double data. And my mother has 4GB and she uses like .1 lol.
So lazarus2297, are you still on the unlimited plans? I just went through the entire process also showing " keep existing plan". Didn't go through with it yet. Want to make sure before I order.
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So lazarus2297, are you still on the unlimited plans? I just went through the entire process also showing " keep existing plan". Didn't go through with it yet. Want to make sure before I order.
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yes i am still on the unlimited plan and it has now been over three weeks.. i upgraded via the online site on black friday.
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yes i am still on the unlimited plan and it has now been over three weeks.. i upgraded via the online site on black friday.
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OK thanks. Forgot to ask you. Did you start a new cycle since you upgraded?
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OK thanks. Forgot to ask you. Did you start a new cycle since you upgraded?
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not yet.. my new billing period starts on the 22nd
Well, I'm now officially 2 days into my new billing cycle and my account is still showing unlimited data despite having used my upgrade to purchase this phone through Verizon.
I'm not really sure why I didn't get stuck with a 2gb plan but I'm not certainly not complaining. :thumbup:
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Well, I'm now officially 2 days into my new billing cycle and my account is still showing unlimited data despite having used my upgrade to purchase this phone through Verizon.
I'm not really sure why I didn't get stuck with a 2gb plan but I'm not certainly not complaining. :thumbup:
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I'm just worried that Verizon will all of a sudden just change it over to the 2gb plan down the road.
It took AT&T 3 months to switch my data plan to a tiered plan. I left shortly there after because I hadn't done an upgrade but they wouldn't let me go back to my original data plan.
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I'm just worried that Verizon will all of a sudden just change it over to the 2gb plan down the road.
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I assume this will happen at some point. However, both of my parents upgraded this last month as well, and both of their plans changed from unlimited to 2gb right away. This gives me some hope that it's some weird fluke/loophole on Verizon's part and I might get to keep unlimited.
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I assume this will happen at some point. However, both of my parents upgraded this last month as well, and both of their plans changed from unlimited to 2gb right away. This gives me some hope that it's some weird fluke/loophole on Verizon's part and I might get to keep unlimited.
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I posted the same experience some time ago, transferred an upgrade with unlimited data to my line, with unlimited data, and both lines stayed unlimited after the upgrade.
I had called Verizon since I was confused about the LTE sim card, and the handler openly told me that because I had transferred the upgrade the data plan wouldn't change for either one.
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Anyway to keep my unlimited?

Ok so no need to get scared Verizon didn't kick me out of unlimited, here's the deal so my mother finally made the change and got an iPhone and so did my dad, my dad had at&t before, Sooo when they get home my moms like " hey guys so we got the phones and 6 gigs of data but the girl said not to watch videos then my mom said that the girl told her that me and my sis didn't use our unlimited that much...
As soon as she said that I spring into action and check out my Verizon settings and sure enough it was a 6 gb share everything data plan for 4 smartphones... Me and my sister lost our unlimited and I'm like hell no so I take my mom and dad and drive down to Verizon to get my unlimited back and obviously get an actual better deal? So I start discussing with the sales representative that sold my mom the phones and exposing why her "good deal for us" was pure Bs since we already had 1 gig out of the six and it was barely the first day and the 15 dollar charge for going over a gig= no thanks...
Aparrently I used 8.5 gigs the last month and my sis used two gigs...
So we keep on discussing she says she can hook us up with a 16 gig shared data for 350 and says we save 10 dollars, so I broke it down for her there saying if me and my sis revert to unlimited data, my parents get the 2 gb data plan for each of their phones, unl text and calling and then my two little sister unl txt and talk, and the total to that came to 330.
In the end she said that since we had already 5 lines on the family plan, and my dad was adding his line we couldn't keep the old plans since apparently there is a 5 line limit, and the shared data plan ups the limit from 5 lines to 10 is this true? And I think I read somewhere a long time ago that if u have good credit with Verizon that u could add 2 more lines into the old family plan?
Is this a lost battle and should I just settle for the 16 gb shared data? I'll hate having to limit my netflix viewing on the and just overall limiting my phone internet time.
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From what I understand once you lose unlimited, there is no way to get it back
You can change your contract back within 30 days of when you make a change to your contract but I think I'm screwed due to the old way of only 5 lines on a family plan
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croonux said:
You can change your contract back within 30 days of when you make a change to your contract but I think I'm screwed due to the old way of only 5 lines on a family plan
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am i missing something? there's only 5 phones right? (your mom, dad, you, two sisters?) so what's the problem?
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am i missing something? there's only 5 phones right? (your mom, dad, you, two sisters?) so what's the problem?
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Explain to your pops that it would save you guys money for him to open a separate contract for his phone. Explain to him that by you, and your sister going over the data cap he would have to pay more for the data than the extra contract. I have been looking into holes for awhile to see if we could do something similar. They won't get my unlimited until they pry it from my cold dead fingers...If it happens before that, then i will be moving on to greener pastures. C,mon Dish, and Google, Lte's see that data rumor come true....
This is why i hate big companies. They are so greedy...I have to get rid of my unlimited data and pay more per month for limited data? That is ridiculous. smh
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am i missing something? there's only 5 phones right? (your mom, dad, you, two sisters?) so what's the problem?
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No there's 6 lines now me my three sisters mom and dad
Funny thing is I think it seems they try to push 6 gb data to everyone because while I was discussing an Asian couple arrived and they had 6 smartphones with unl. Data and the sales associate next to me was saying how 6 gigs was enough for them like Wtf? no its not
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Usually they pull the account and check the average that's been used over a long period of time and that's where they get the formula to recommend the shared data plan. They usually will recommend on the low side since its adjustable on the fly and the lower they can get that final monthly bill total the easier it is for them to sell it. The problem with that is the typical person financially responsible for the plan isn't a phone guru and doesn't make a habit of screwing with their phone, monitoring data consumption, etc until a huge bill arrives.
To the OP, it sounds like your family is pretty well established in their decision and things probably won't work out for you to keep your unlimited, considering they already made the decision and yanked your unlimited, which will require an act of congress to Change, and they already have their phones and probably your Dad ported a number I'm guessing. Which means they're comfortable and probably that one trip back to the Verizon store already has them tired of dealing with it.
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Don't know if this can help in your family plan situation, but when I had to replace my phone (no warranty/insurance) they offered me an early upgrade and good price on a new Rez or GS3 but losing unlimited by using the upgrade. In order to keep unlimited the guy said I could get a "landline" (I think it's fios - unlimited nationwide calling) phone for $20/month.
So, if there's anyway you guys get unlimited on a couple or all lines for the $20/mo. it might be worth it.
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Don't know if this can help in your family plan situation, but when I had to replace my phone (no warranty/insurance) they offered me an early upgrade and good price on a new Rez or GS3 but losing unlimited by using the upgrade. In order to keep unlimited the guy said I could get a "landline" (I think it's fios - unlimited nationwide calling) phone for $20/month.
So, if there's anyway you guys get unlimited on a couple or all lines for the $20/mo. it might be worth it.
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I have 2 possible options for you. 1 is to make one of your sisters disappear. 2 is to take your unlimited data which is/was tied to your phone # and have it put into your own name so it would be a completely separate account. If your not old enough or have credit problems see if one of your sisters can get their own account.
Also there isn't any reason why 1 person can't have 6 individual accounts or 2 accounts with 3 shared lines.
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Don't know if this can help in your family plan situation, but when I had to replace my phone (no warranty/insurance) they offered me an early upgrade and good price on a new Rez or GS3 but losing unlimited by using the upgrade. In order to keep unlimited the guy said I could get a "landline" (I think it's fios - unlimited nationwide calling) phone for $20/month.
So, if there's anyway you guys get unlimited on a couple or all lines for the $20/mo. it might be worth it.
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Probably the home connect, I have one, it's $20 a month.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/home-phone-connect.shtml

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I activated the Note 48 hours ago and the VZW webpage still shows me on unlimited. Do they typically start the new plan at the beginning of the next bill cycle, or did I somehow get lucky? Thanks
maybe when the billing cycle ends
Not me. I'm getting billed for my data usage over 2 gigs. And I'm now at 11.2 gb. That's 9 gigs over at $10 extra/1 gig. Ouch. I upgraded in store so it appears my new plan went into effect immediately.
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Bump. Anyone else? I'm still on unlimited, but my new bill cycle starts tomorrow.
Its weird, I'm already on my next billing cycle and it still shows unlimited data still. I did the pre-order through the VZW website. I'm keeping my mouth shut until they realize it lol
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Its weird, I'm already on my next billing cycle and it still shows unlimited data still. I did the pre-order through the VZW website. I'm keeping my mouth shut until they realize it lol
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You might actually get to keep it. I upgraded to a SGS3 shortly after it came out, but way after the cutoff to keep unlimited officially. I never lost it then.
I ordered the SGS3 through Verizon's website. I also ordered the GNote 2 on their website. I wonder if there's something special about the way my line is configured or the way I'm activating my phone that's causing this.
When I received the GNote I didn't go through any activation process and I didn't use the SIM they sent me. I just yanked the SIM from my SGS3 and popped it in the Note. I will be very happy if I wake up tomorrow and still have unlimited.
FWIW I first added this line about 2 years ago when VZW first got the iPhone and was offering unlimited data with it. Can they not take away unlimited while I'm still in contract?
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You might actually get to keep it. I upgraded to a SGS3 shortly after it came out, but way after the cutoff to keep unlimited officially. I never lost it then.
I ordered the SGS3 through Verizon's website. I also ordered the GNote 2 on their website. I wonder if there's something special about the way my line is configured or the way I'm activating my phone that's causing this.
When I received the GNote I didn't go through any activation process and I didn't use the SIM they sent me. I just yanked the SIM from my SGS3 and popped it in the Note. I will be very happy if I wake up tomorrow and still have unlimited.
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Yea could be because we didn't switch sim cards. I did the same thing and just took my sim out of my razr and stuck it in the note 2. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Yea could be because we didn't switch sim cards. I did the same thing and just took my sim out of my razr and stuck it in the note 2. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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IIRC that's what I did with the SGS3 too.
Just started a new cycle, still unlimited and also ordered through vz website. Who knows?
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Just started a new cycle, still unlimited and also ordered through vz website. Who knows?
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May I ask how you activated your phone? Did you just pop in an already activated sim card to the Note?
I upgraded at a Evo2 Store (Another branch of Verizon, but still a Verizon store) and I upgraded yesterday and I still have my unlimited data.
That's supposed to be impossible. Now I cannot speak for the automated system, but Verizon's eROES system we use will force you to drop unlimited data and add on a the 2GB package. The only way around this is to use another line's upgrade and then do a device swap.
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That's supposed to be impossible. Now I cannot speak for the automated system, but Verizon's eROES system we use will force you to drop unlimited data and add on a the 2GB package. The only way around this is to use another line's upgrade and then do a device swap.
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Well, I can tell you for sure that I've done it once before.... So strong emphasis on the supposed to
My bill cycle should cut over here in a minute. We shall see.
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Well, I can tell you for sure that I've done it once before.... So strong emphasis on the supposed to
My bill cycle should cut over here in a minute. We shall see.
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That'ls pretty sick if you got away with it, I must admit. There must be some inconsistencies with their online activation systems, but I can tell you that anyone using eROES to process an upgrade on a line with an unlimited package will be forced to downgrade. I do this every day.
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That'ls pretty sick if you got away with it, I must admit. There must be some inconsistencies with their online activation systems, but I can tell you that anyone using eROES to process an upgrade on a line with an unlimited package will be forced to downgrade. I do this every day.
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Does the downgrade usually happen immediately, or is it dated to the beginning of the next bill cycle usually?
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Does the downgrade usually happen immediately, or is it dated to the beginning of the next bill cycle usually?
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It's effective on the date the upgrade is processed, also the new start date of your contract. However, it is not back-dated, which means you won't receive any overages if you had used more than 2GB already. Your data usage will reset as per usual on your billing cycle date.
It's after midnight here but it still hasn't clicked over to the next bill cycle. Would really like to see it stay unlimited so I can go back to abusing the 40 meg LTE I get here in Saint Louis lol
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It's after midnight here but it still hasn't clicked over to the next bill cycle. Would really like to see it stay unlimited so I can go back to abusing the 40 meg LTE I get here in Saint Louis lol
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You said you purchased your phone a few days ago, correct? Did the Verizon site say anything about you losing unlimited data when you ordered your phone? Are there any additional lines on your account and are they still under contract? If they do downgrade you and they didn't inform you of the change I would call and raise hell. Threaten to return your device, reverse your upgrade, and terminate your service.
Watch them add a exception note to your account.
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You said you purchased your phone a few days ago, correct? Did the Verizon site say anything about you losing unlimited data when you ordered your phone? Are there any additional lines on your account and are they still under contract? If they do downgrade you and they didn't inform you of the change I would call and raise hell. Threaten to return your device, reverse your upgrade, and terminate your service.
Watch them add a exception note to your account.
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It definitely warned me I would lose unlimited when I placed the order on the 19th of last month. I had come to terms with being on WiFi all the time. It's available both at home and work, so it would have been manageable.
But, heck, if the don't take it away again I will not complain. Just wish I knew what I did that was special.
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It's after midnight here but it still hasn't clicked over to the next bill cycle. Would really like to see it stay unlimited so I can go back to abusing the 40 meg LTE I get here in Saint Louis lol
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Maybe its cuz we're both in STL! Lol
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