I have a stock new UK GT-S5830i, unmodded, standard Samsung v2.3.6. I'd have rooted and upgraded it anyway (Jelly blast? MindCr? Something else?) but I hit an unexpected Bluetooth problem while readying it for rooting/CWM.
Sometimes I find a bluetooth keyboard useful (**). I tried to pair it (***) to my new 5830i - it's detected but I get the message "Sorry, but HID device is not supported on this phone". I'm guessing it's an OS limitation rather than a hardware one, it's physically detected, and Android changelog says that ICS and Jelly Bean both improve Bluetooth HID device support. But I'm not sure. Advice appreciated before I spend more money!
If it's an OS limitation will upgrading to a 4.x ROM solve this (if so, is ICS ok or do I need JB?) and if so which 4.x in others' experience are the best bets for "everything just works" on the 5830i?
Also if I upgrade the OS, does the upgraded rom also include any applicable upgrades to radio, or is that a separate recommended install?
** hardware kbs have some uses - actual arrow keys, numbers without a modifier key, unobscured display, tactile, touch-typing.
*** My kb can be seen at ionaudio DOT com /images/products/ Type_N_Slide_open_angle_LG.jpg if useful.
Praise the Lord for giving you two hands, one brain and two eyes and teaching how to use them to search before posting.
Open your eyes and see what a beautiful world it is!
And also see that there is a thread saying post your questions here
[Q&A][OFF-TOPIC]Post your Questions
here(Questions, Chat,Tips, Shares etc)
No one should help you unless you post your questions here
Now, I read your full post and then I say that sorry dude
Take my words back
Yes, Its a problem with ROM
OS limitation
Upgrading to Jelly Bean 4.2 will solve the problem.
Just go to Samsung Service Centre and shove your phone into their face and say
Here nigga, upgrade it to Jelly Bean
Please share the experience after you do it.
Regards
A person who searches the fcuking whole internet before posting regarding questions
iamareebjamal said:
Praise the Lord for giving you two eyes and teaching how to use them
Open your eyes and see what a beautiful world it is!
And also see that there is a thread saying post your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
No one should help you unless you post your questions here
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I think the God has forgot to give him two eyes
iamareebjamal said:
Praise the Lord for giving you two hands, one brain and two eyes and teaching how to use them to search before posting. Open your eyes and see what a beautiful world it is!
And also see that there is a thread saying post your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
No one should help you unless you post your questions here
Now, I read your full post and then I say that sorry dude
Take my words back
Yes, Its a problem with ROM
OS limitation
Upgrading to Jelly Bean 4.2 will solve the problem.
Just go to Samsung Service Centre and shove your phone into their face and say
Here nigga, upgrade it to Jelly Bean
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Like you say, it isn't "off topic", eyes were fully used. The forum is used for other posts about ROMs, internal memory, firmware, hardware, modding etc so it's in good company :angel: (and Alucard1989pl - maybe use eyes like iamareebjamal? Read before failing @ lulz? Not what a senior member's posts should be like, sorry)
Anyway thank you for editing your post. Yeah, I think you are right, it looks more likely to be ROM related, but I'm not fully sure.
So... are you actually very sure of your answer (that JB will fix this) now you read the actual question more? Or just guessing Would ICS be enough or must need JB for the device to work?
About Samsung - if you know this model, you know that Samsung don't do a 4.x rom (ICS or JB). So it would have to be a custom ROM anyway, and I'd want to use a good custom ROM if possible. So best 4.x ROM experiences for "it just works" on this model phone?
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Like you say, it isn't "off topic", eyes were fully used. The forum is used for other posts about ROMs, internal memory, firmware, hardware, modding etc so it's in good company :angel: (and Alucard1989pl - maybe use eyes like iamareebjamal? Read before failing @ lulz? Not what a senior member's posts should be like, sorry)
Anyway thank you for editing your post. Yeah, I think you are right, it looks more likely to be ROM related, but I'm not fully sure.
So... are you actually very sure of your answer (that JB will fix this) now you read the actual question more? Or just guessing Would ICS be enough or must need JB for the device to work?
About Samsung - if you know this model, you know that Samsung don't do a 4.x rom (ICS or JB). So it would have to be a custom ROM anyway, and I'd want to use a good custom ROM if possible. So best 4.x ROM experiences for "it just works" on this model phone?
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You did not get my point.
Sorry
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Perhaps say more plainly. If the question is lol, then maybe explain how to find out from others what version or ROM might enable HID BT without asking, or where is more relevant on the site than here. It seems a sensible question and this is the forum where other ROM questions on this handset get asked, so I'm honestly confused. If asking Samsung was sarcasm and not j/k, then it was a bit pointless - when you tell someone that 4.2 is going to work, a reasonable person asking a reasonable question who is told that by a senior user will take the answer as sensible.
Let's start again, and speak simply. I have a Bluetooth compatibility issue on the stock 2.3.6 manufacturer's ROM for this model (S5830i). I don't know enough to know if a 4.x ROM will probably fix it or not, and if so which of the custom 4.x ROMs for the S5830i has the best chance of "just working" and fixing it. Samsung (obviously) don't do a 4.x ROM and I prefer a custom good quality ROM anyway. This seems to be the right forum to ask hardware/firmware/custom ROM questions on the S5830i. If you can help with advice and answers, then thanks. If there's a more appropriate forum on XDA for this then can you tell me which one?
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Perhaps say more plainly. If the question is lol, then maybe explain how to find out from others what version or ROM might enable HID BT without asking, or where is more relevant on the site than here. It seems a sensible question and this is the forum where other ROM questions on this handset get asked, so I'm honestly confused. If asking Samsung was sarcasm and not j/k, then it was a bit pointless - when you tell someone that 4.2 is going to work, a reasonable person asking a reasonable question who is told that by a senior user will take the answer as sensible.
Let's start again, and speak simply. I have a Bluetooth compatibility issue on the stock 2.3.6 manufacturer's ROM for this model (S5830i). I don't know enough to know if a 4.x ROM will probably fix it or not, and if so which of the custom 4.x ROMs for the S5830i has the best chance of "just working" and fixing it. Samsung (obviously) don't do a 4.x ROM and I prefer a custom good quality ROM anyway. This seems to be the right forum to ask hardware/firmware/custom ROM questions on the S5830i. If you can help with advice and answers, then thanks. If there's a more appropriate forum on XDA for this then can you tell me which one?
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Its quite clear alucard is 5 years old due to the level or maturity of his answers and replies "I can't help you I'm a horse" you clearly don't deserve the "senior member" title, also as I have explained my views on this new super thread for all users questions numerous times I won't bother explaining again, yes I support areebjamal in keeping the forum clean I just don't think that's the answer... ill attempt to contact a senior mod in trying to get a new section made for us, if we all sign a petetion saying this is what we want surely they will help us
Anyways back to the question, if your device is clearly saying its not supported its obviously not going to work, it sounds like a hardware limititation as our phone probably cannot accept wireless input... I highly doubt flashing a new rom will fix this,
P.s Alucard GROW UP
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
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Xx James xX said:
Anyways back to the question, if your device is clearly saying its not supported its obviously not going to work, it sounds like a hardware limititation as our phone probably cannot accept wireless input... I highly doubt flashing a new rom will fix this
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Well that's the thing... it can do Bluetooth, it can locate the device... it can communicate with the device... the error it's giving isn't a protocol or communication error, it's simply saying that the 5830i + Samsung Gingerbread stock ROM "isn't suppported"... and that sounds like "It would work at a hardware level but the OS doesn't handle this BT Keyboard, or some kinds of BT HID devices."
The changelog for 4.x shows a lot of "Bluetooth HID devices" now working with Android, so it could easily be a simple problem that 2.3.x won't cope but 4.x.x will. Is there any way to check that, that you know, though? My keyboard's linked in the first post.
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Well that's the thing... it can do Bluetooth, it can locate the device... it can communicate with the device... the error it's giving isn't a protocol or communication error, it's simply saying that the 5830i + Samsung Gingerbread stock ROM "isn't suppported"... and that sounds like "It would work at a hardware level but the OS doesn't handle this BT Keyboard, or some kinds of BT HID devices."
The changelog for 4.x shows a lot of "Bluetooth HID devices" now working with Android, so it could easily be a simple problem that 2.3.x won't cope but 4.x.x will. Is there any way to check that, that you know, though? My keyboard's linked in the first post.
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It does look like this can be solved by upgrading your firmware, however this is impossible our phones cannot run any official or unofficial newer android systems we don't have the minimum requirements (limited by ram and space) flashing new roms (custom roms) does not increase your android version its still 2.3.6 just the text been edited to say 4.1.1 etc.
My advice is get a new keyboard and test it immediately so if it doesn't work you can return it... just ask around PC/mobile shops for a galaxy ace compatible keyboard...
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
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Hi guys,
I still possible to make SGS2 unlock the phone as soon as i enter the right pin code on lock screen, without having to press the OK button down the bottom?
Doubt it, asthe ability to lock the sim card be too great. Example: you make a mistake on the last digit. 2 attempts left. You have taken a couple of beers. Ops. Sim Locked
Has anyone found a solution to this??
I've been customizing my phone every day for who knows how long, little by little to get it just how i like it, and this 'OK' button is annoying. VERY annoying. Though, I need a PIN on my phone, and 99.99%of the apps on the market have horrible horrible designs. No offence, but I'd rather stay with the android look. All of the thread's I've found have either told someone to use a third-party app, or use CM10. Well, someone who has almost all of their information on their phone can't afford to install this, seeing as it wipes your entire phone, and for a PIN, that's unnecessary. I don't know what roms are, same with roms. I like the way the touchwiz UI looks on my E4GT(I have fk09 leak installed, recently got this phone, and barely had anything on it). I like the way JB looks with touchwiz way more than it did on ICS(looked horrid).
TL;DR
If someone can find a fix to this, without any third party launchers, or horrible-looking apps, that would be great. If you give a rom, explain how to install it. Thanks in advance.
The rom SlimBean has this feature which I use. It can be found in the lock screen settings.
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I'm going to preempt the inevitable question that's going to come following Drexciya's excellent suggestion to use Slim if you want this feature (tick quick unlock in settings/interface/lock screen/screen security).
How do you install it ? Read the first page of the Slim thread in Development. Easy.
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I'm going to preempt the inevitable question that's going to come following Drexciya's excellent suggestion to use Slim if you want this feature (tick quick unlock in settings/interface/lock screen/screen security).
How do you install it ? Read the first page of the Slim thread in Development. Easy.
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Thanks for an answer, but AFAIK, FK09 has no recovery mod, which i didn't realize, and unless someone kniws of one that supports the build,pr whatever, I can't load any mods.. Also, links to specefic topics help a lot..
And you're unable to go to the Development section & look for the Slim Bean thread like everyone else here why exactly ? (using the XDA app on your phone & being too lazy don't count as valid answers).
Re: whatever you're running now that has no recovery, looks like you're going to have to flash something else; another rom that has CWRecovery or at the very least temporary CWRecovery (which will disappear after you reboot) if you want to flash Slim. I don't believe there's an Odin version.
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Also, links to specefic topics help a lot..
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And you're unable to go to the Development section & look for the Slim Bean thread like everyone else here why exactly ? (using the XDA app on your phone & being too lazy don't count as valid answers).
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No, I'm not being lazy, I simply dont know where to look. Not sure if you could tell, t I'm new here, and I'm not used to this. Did you expect me to just know where EVERYTHING is? I found this thread after wasting my entire evening looking for a solution, and found this thread. I signed up specefically for this purpose. I was trying to ask for a link without looking too unappreciative, but rhatbobvoliously didn't help. And I don't use an xda app, nor do I intend to.
MistahBungle said:
Re: whatever you're running now that has no recovery, looks like you're going to have to flash something else; another rom that has CWRecovery or at the very least temporary CWRecovery (which will disappear after you reboot) if you want to flash Slim. I don't believe there's an Odin version.
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I really don't know how to do this.. Is there a thread for this? I'll just google it.. Thanks anyways.
My point was (is) I don't have a link. If I want to get you a link, I'd go to Development (by navigating the site; not exactly a new fandangled web thingy) & find the thread, come back here & post the link. You're perfectly capable of doing this yourself, yet you expect me to that ?
That speaks volumes about the people who seem to visit here these days. They want everything served up to them on a silver platter with a minimum or no effort on their own part.
Also, from his first post in this thread, he's an Epic 4g Touch user. Any ROM suggestions he gets here are likely to be i9100 ROMs.
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My point was (is) I don't have a link. If I want to get you a link, I'd go to Development (by navigating the site; not exactly a new fandangled web thingy) & find the thread, come back here & post the link. You're perfectly capable of doing this yourself, yet you expect me to that ?
That speaks volumes about the people who seem to visit here these days. They want everything served up to them on a silver platter with a minimum or no effort on their own part.
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And this shows that some people who find themselves comfortable here can't read. I obviously don't know how to get to development, or how to navigate the forums. I don't inderatand how it takes any more explaination that I DON'T KNOW where to look. Get around looking like a smart allic, and actually take the time to help people around. What are you, 14? You act like it, as everyone is supposed to know everything on a site for developers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that I know nothing about these things. I didn't do the rooting, soneone else did, so stop expecting everyone knows as much about this forum, or everything you are, because they don't. As far as I know, I didn't come here to argue with someone I don't even know, who thinks they're an internet genious, I came here for support. A link is the least of your problems if you think I know where it is. If you don't want to, don't do it, that's simple, just don't do it. Just don't reply, and save yourself the embarassment, because you just made the forums seem like ignorant children with conputers, who care more about criticising people than anything.
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Also, from his first post in this thread, he's an Epic 4g Touch user. Any ROM suggestions he gets here are likely to be i9100 ROMs.
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Aren't they both Galaxy SII's? I would think they did the same, and these roms run the same.. Does that mean that there are no rom for the epic 4g touch? If not, is there a way around this without rom?
Thanks in advance
KooladeKC said:
Aren't they both Galaxy SII's? I would think they did the same, and these roms run the same.. Does that mean that there are no rom for the epic 4g touch? If not, is there a way around this without rom?
Thanks in advance
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Clearly you don't know you're in the wrong place anyways.
Yes, they are both Galaxy SII's. They are different, however, since yours (Epic 4g Touch) is a phone designed to work on Sprint's CDMA network. That phone has a separate forum. There are plenty of ROMs for that device in its forum.
The device this forum is for (GT-I9100) is a GSM phone that won't even work on Sprint's network. So no, ROMs for this phone won't work on your phone.
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Clearly you don't know you're in the wrong place anyways.
Yes, they are both Galaxy SII's. They are different, however, since yours (Epic 4g Touch) is a phone designed to work on Sprint's CDMA network. That phone has a separate forum. There are plenty of ROMs for that device in its forum.
The device this forum is for (GT-I9100) is a GSM phone that won't even work on Sprint's network. So no, ROMs for this phone won't work on your phone.
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Thank you, for clearing this up
Hi all! I've been checking out this forum for quite some time now, and been following a ROM thread quite closely for the past week or so, so thought it was about time I got an account! Currently got a Galaxy S2, which I love.
I'm by no means a developer, but I'm also not a complete n00b and know my fair share about computers. Done a bit of programming on and off for a few years, build my own PC's etc. I previously had a HTC Hero, and I rooted that and have flashed several ROM's and Kernels over the past 2 years. I would like to learn a lot more though. There are a lot of things I don't understand.
I would like to know more about how things work concerning custom ROM's. What is it Kernels do exactly? What is AOKP? (Found some information on Google, but nothing that made a lot of sense). Modems are another thing I'd like to know more about.
I know a lot of the questions I have have probably been asked several times on the forum already, so I'm not going to ask for direct answers, but if anyone has any links to helpful websites that could help me on my way to learning more about the Android system and what you developers do I would greatly appreciate it.
Anyway, nice to meet you all, and I look forward to talking with some of you and contributing where I can.
Thanks,
Carl
Welcome to the forum!
First, read all the FAQs out there, recovery guides, how-to's... Everything before flashing
The Kernel (in the flashing process, it's the zImage, just like in Linux) is basically a bridge between the software and the hardware. It's basically what connects the NAND (the phone's HDD) with the hardware components like WiFi, Antenna, etc, and provides info, stats, commands and etc about them.
AOKP stands for Android Open KANG Project, and is kind of a Kang port.
Modems (in a flashing package, it's the PHONE file) is pretty much what "controls" the antenna section of the phone, which is WiFi, 3G/H/H+, call connection, etc. There are many modems out there, and I believe that the best Modem for the UK in Android 2.3.x is KL1, and for 4.0.x, XXLPQ.
If you would like more help, you can PM me!
Here are a few links for ya :
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11) <- Everything you need to know
Original Development vs Development, Your Picture-Based Guide <- My personal favourite
[GUIDE] Fix an unflashable or soft bricked GSII <- A guide I made
carlnrtn said:
I'm also not a complete n00b and know my fair share about computers.
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What is it Kernels do exactly? What is AOKP? (Found some information on Google, but nothing that made a lot of sense). Modems are another thing I'd like to know more about.
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Yeah, loads.
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I know a lot of the questions I have have probably been asked several times on the forum already
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Correct, so, good luck finding the answers.
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
I pity anyone who spoon feeds you the answers.
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Yeah, loads.
Correct, so, good luck finding the answers.
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
I pity anyone who spoon feeds you the answers.
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I guess I'm just in a good mood
Welcome and enjoy the forum
Welcome to the forums. I am PoorCollegeGuy and I write things on the XDA Portal (aka www.xda-developers.com).
Have a good time while you're here and remember that before you get angry at anyone saying mean things to you, they're probably fat...and ugly...and single
PoorCollegeGuy said:
Have a good time while you're here and remember that before you get angry at anyone saying mean things to you, they're probably fat...and ugly...and single
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Best post for a while (and quite probably true), thanks for making me smile
Where in settings is option to set how long capacitive lights stay on?
you have to more specific..There is alot of jelly bean roms floating around..And some are different..Perhaps rephrasing your question, you'll get a quicker response?
Well I thought my question was pretty straight forward, I ask here so as to not cloud the rom thread (they ***** hard about that)
Just like in a normal stock gb/ics rom, in display you have an option to set how long to keep the capacitive buttons lit: 6 seconds, as long as screen on, never, etc
Question is simply where is this option in jelly bean?
How crazy is that people get upset when people post frivolous questions in the "DEVELOPMENT" section? Who would have known? What fascist Nazis!
OP, you still didn't answer the question wish777 asked you. Instead you choose to be arrogant. So in turn I will not answer your question even though I know the answer.
how do you know which jelly bean rom he has? or is that setting in generically the same place?
saywhat10 : please specify which from you have... and someone familiar with that particular rom will answer. thanks
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How crazy is that people get upset when people post frivolous questions in the "DEVELOPMENT" section? Who would have known? What fascist Nazis!
OP, you still didn't answer the question wish777 asked you. Instead you choose to be arrogant. So in turn I will not answer your question even though I know the answer.
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If its a question that somebody doesnt know, and wants answered, how is that frivolous? The problem in the developer section is that they assume everybody is some techy and is supposed to know everything.
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How was I arrogant, i simply rephrased it like he requested. A 2 year old could understand my question I asked. Plus he didnt actually ASK me a question or ASK which rom I was on if you can read. You simply implied he did, but he didnt directly. He simply asked me to rephrase which is incredibly VAGUE. So i chose what to rephrase, was totally in the scope of his request
But i can be arrogant: Only kids play games like responding saying you know the answer but wont give it. Can beleive you took a simply question i asked and just ran with it for no reason
But Jimbomb, i'm on slimbean, but was on the impression that its a stock option,generically in the same place, independant of which jelly bean version. All the ICS roms they used they were all in the same place
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I'm currently using slim rom as well..I don't even see that option within this rom...?..thats strange...
No one is trying to play games bud....its just easier to know what jelly bean rom your on...There is no default jelly bean rom.....if you want to be specific your on jelly bean/cm10 to be honest...all the roms are using jelly bean as a base,with or without cm10...I'm not trying to be mean,Am only trying to help you?..if I knew more info, It would be allitle easier..but I can't or anybody else,because we don't know what rom you were on...
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I'm currently using slim rom as well..I don't even see that option within this rom...?..thats strange...
No one is trying to play games bud....its just easier to know what jelly bean rom your on...There is no default jelly bean rom.....if you want to be specific your on jelly bean/cm10 to be honest...all the roms are using jelly bean as a base,with or without cm10...I'm not trying to be mean,Am only trying to help you?..if I knew more info, It would be allitle easier..but I can't or anybody else,because we don't know what rom you were on...
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I didnt say you were playing game, i said the other guy was (simply replying to say he knows the answer but wont give it)
And again, the light settings is in the same place for all the GB and ICS roms,so going with that i assumed the actual rom name was irrelevant,since its a basic feature of all roms.
Now I'm definitely not giving you the answer.
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Now I'm definitely not giving you the answer.
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you already told me that, nothing new here
this post isnt for kid games
if you dont have an answer, why reply?
LOL wow everyone is so uptight...
Check here
Settings - Advanced - Sensors(tab up top) - Enable keys backlight checkmark
lmike6453 said:
LOL wow everyone is so uptight...
Check here
Settings - Advanced - Sensors(tab up top) - Enable keys backlight checkmark
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thanks, but on this jelly bean, theres no "advanced" after going to settings
First, its pretty standard procedure when asking a question to provide as much detail as possible such as what ROM you're on and what mods you're using, not just JB. That you did not.
Second, the development section does not require you to be a techie, it simply requires you to be observant and able to learn by reading, experimenting, and drawing your own conclusions.
Third, you basically answered your own question, which goes back to drawing your own conclusions from reading and experimenting. You stated that its available on stock ROMs. The duration setting is available only on TW based ROMs AFAIK, which you seemed to have observed. Since CM9/10 aren't TW based, they don't have the duration settings. The option to turn on or off is available on CM9 ROMs and CM10 ROMs that include the advanced menu under settings. If your ROM doesn't have the advanced menu, then the developer hasn't included it.
Remember, developers build these ROMs for themselves first, then generously share them with us. The answer to every 'why isn't this included?' question is that the developer simply hasn't included it. Just keep in mind that the developer built it for themselves on their own free time, and that you aren't entitled to anything, and you can politely suggest to the developer that a feature be included. Expecting and demanding won't get you anywhere. You were expecting this feature. If you're not happy use something else.
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First, its pretty standard procedure when asking a question to provide as much detail as possible such as what ROM you're on and what mods you're using, not just JB. That you did not.
Second, the development section does not require you to be a techie, it simply requires you to be observant and able to learn by reading, experimenting, and drawing your own conclusions.
Third, you basically answered your own question, which goes back to drawing your own conclusions from reading and experimenting. You stated that its available on stock ROMs. The duration setting is available only on TW based ROMs AFAIK, which you seemed to have observed. Since CM9/10 aren't TW based, they don't have the duration settings. The option to turn on or off is available on CM9 ROMs and CM10 ROMs that include the advanced menu under settings. If your ROM doesn't have the advanced menu, then the developer hasn't included it.
Remember, developers build these ROMs for themselves first, then generously share them with us. The answer to every 'why isn't this included?' question is that the developer simply hasn't included it. Just keep in mind that the developer built it for themselves on their own free time, and that you aren't entitled to anything, and you can politely suggest to the developer that a feature be included. Expecting and demanding won't get you anywhere. You were expecting this feature. If you're not happy use something else.
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Who the hell demanded anything? I simply asked a simple question in the correct Q & A forum
If you read I said I thought the answer was rom independent, do you know what that means? Then you are harping on me not saying which rom I was on but looks like it didn't even matter which one im on because the option doesn't exist on any dag on note jelly bean rom!
And if I knew the answer why the hell would I even ask the question in the first place? Use common sense please
And then you say we don't have to be a techie, but make a techie answer! Very funny math my man!
Only a techie knows how each stock cm9 cm10 aosp aokp works, I don't! So i asked a freakin question here!
Stop being so pressed to come on to flame people just because they are not a know it all like you!Either you wanted to give me an answer to my question or not, all that other stuff is totally unnecessary!!! This is what blows this whole community
I was trying to help you out man. This whole blowing up at people doesn't help anything, which I've consistently seen you do in the past. I was trying to tell you not that you knew the answer, but that you had already observed everything you needed to draw a reasonable conclusion that CM9/10 ROMs don't have the ability to set duration. My answer wasn't very techie, and I don't consider myself very techie, I just was trying to give you advice on how to better solve your own problems. You don't need to be a techie to try out the ROMs available and see what each one does/doesn't include.
Sorry about the last couple sentences, I realize they were harsher than they needed to be. But the rest really wasn't aimed at you, it was general advice about drawing your own conclusions and whatnot, which everybody can use.
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I was trying to help you out man. This whole blowing up at people doesn't help anything, which I've consistently seen you do in the past. I was trying to tell you not that you knew the answer, but that you had already observed everything you needed to draw a reasonable conclusion that CM9/10 ROMs don't have the ability to set duration. My answer wasn't very techie, and I don't consider myself very techie, I just was trying to give you advice on how to better solve your own problems. You don't need to be a techie to try out the ROMs available and see what each one does/doesn't include.
Sorry about the last couple sentences, I realize they were harsher than they needed to be. But the rest really wasn't aimed at you, it was general advice about drawing your own conclusions and whatnot, which everybody can use.
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This is a Q & A forum! We are allowed to post here instead of concluding. I did that and didn't appreciate getting attacked
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This is a Q & A forum! We are allowed to post here instead of concluding. I did that and didn't appreciate getting attacked
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I'm inclined to side with the OP on this one. I've noticed that a lot of active members here can be dickish towards new members with valid, albeit naive questions.
The whole community reeks of elitism, but I can look past that myself cause it's such a useful site. I'm not trying to fuel the flames, just pointing out what I have observed. None of the antagonism has been aimed at me, as I like to do a good job of supplying as much detail as possible when I post.... but still.
Ok guys. wuuussssaaaa. I can see both sides of the argument. Some older users can be a bit touch (which welch was not.) He gave you the answer to your question and explained why you did not find it.
As for being a techy know it all. There is no such thing. With the way the mobile OS is evolving, you are always learning something new. Now for your question, A search would have given you the answers you were looking for. As per the rules you agreed to when you joined. You did read them right jk lol.
You have to remember this is not just a Development forum but one of the biggest in the world. You will find techies, techie jargoon, and other things you dont understand. Take the time to learn, it will save you tons of frustration.
zelendel said:
Ok guys. wuuussssaaaa. I can see both sides of the argument. Some older users can be a bit touch (which welch was not.) He gave you the answer to your question and explained why you did not find it.
As for being a techy know it all. There is no such thing. With the way the mobile OS is evolving, you are always learning something new. Now for your question, A search would have given you the answers you were looking for. As per the rules you agreed to when you joined. You did read them right jk lol.
You have to remember this is not just a Development forum but one of the biggest in the world. You will find techies, techie jargoon, and other things you dont understand. Take the time to learn, it will save you tons of frustration.
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Ok so the answer is to use the search button to find my answers? Really? So why the hell does this forum exist? Technically all answers can be found by searching right? So Answer me that
BUT I did search whether you believe me or not, if I had found my answer common sense should tell you I wouldn't have made this post!
So again, if we can find answers by searching, why should anyone post a question in this forum?
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Ok so the answer is to use the search button to find my answers? Really? So why the hell does this forum exist? Technically all answers can be found by searching right? Answer me that
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Well considering that there are over 4 million members, then yes. The question. Has a good chance of already being asked at some point or another. Do you really think your the first to notice the missing option?
So you search first. And then on the off chance you can't find anything even remotely related to your question, then you open a new thread
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Hello,
i want to flash my Samsung device. It says at boot Samsung Galaxy S3 l9300 so i guess its an international with no branding.
But i am not sure and i wont do anything wrong. As far i could check for myself rooting+flashing is pretty easy i just want to make sure everything is good to go.
So please tell me how to check and thing.
Secondly, i dont ask you for the best rom/kernel but i ask you for some Roms with less preinstalled as possible but as much installed as needed.
e.g. its very subjectiv whats needed and what not so
i wont use google maps, video hub, mp3 hub and those social/sharing/web application.
The main goal why i want to flash my sgs3 is to maximize the battery as much as possible.
what i use daily:
Phone / E-mail / sms/mms / messenger / social networks (such as facebook, twitter but right now only fb) / Calendar / Contact / Weather / Alarm / Camera / file explorer / mp3 / cloudservice (such as dropbox) and but not so often this time but maybe more often in the future / news apps /
thats it. I really dont want to have all those ebooks/videohub/mp3/hub/flipboard and whatsoever. There are toooo much custom application i never would touch and some of them cant be deinstalled either.
Setting up the sgs3 with samsung and googlemail account should work properly...
Also i am not sure if i need the gmail application preinstalled. I want to use k-9 mail and i never touch gmail but i cant deinstall it.
I am unfortunately newb to it and i cant customize it myself that much but i am willing to install a less bloated Rom
Those are the two question:
What SGS3 do i have
What Rom could you suggest for as much as possible battery improvement/less consumption but still nice to have (i wont have an text base sgs3 like we know from linux itself not sure if that is even possible but i guess so xD)
Thank you for the time
regards
edit: here an screen from phone info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1733512&stc=1&d=1360991063
Please use google next time you have a question.
Anyway, doesn't "Modellnummer" tell you something?
If you are looking for a ROM less bloated browse through the forum and look for one yourself and see which one fits you better.
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Anyway, doesn't "Modellnummer" tell you something?
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What was this answere for? I know its an l9300 and i should know that its than an international. Thats why i said :
so i guess its an international
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But i wanted to make sure
Also, i asked specifially for custom Rom'S (with big S) which has the focus on as much as possible battery/less consumption
I ofc could google for custom roms. But i want to ask here on xda-dev where the guys know what Roms are based on what preferecene.
I am new to android
So thanks for the help and nevermind
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dekatch said:
What was this answere for? I know its an l9300 and i should know that its than an international. Thats why i said :
But i wanted to make sure
Also, i asked specifially for custom Rom'S (with big S) which has the focus on as much as possible battery/less consumption
I ofc could google for custom roms. But i want to ask here on xda-dev where the guys know what Roms are based on what preferecene.
I am new to android
So thanks for the help and nevermind
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New to XDA also....sooooo.......you need to go to i9300 development and original development and read the Rom descriptions.
First you need to check XDA forum rules out.
slaphead20 said:
First you need to check XDA forum rules out.
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What did i wrong? I posted in general becuz the forum rules say : if you are not sure where to post -> then post in general. Since i asked 2 different questions in once i wasnt that sure and thought the general section would be better.
Also i added the [Q] tag for question.
What else should i do?
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What did i wrong? I posted in general becuz the forum rules say : if you are not sure where to post -> then post in general. Since i asked 2 different questions in once i wasnt that sure and thought the general section would be better.
Also i added the [Q] tag for question.
What else should i do?
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Hit report button and ask moderators to move it to Q&A
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Hit report button and ask moderators to move it to Q&A
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ive done so.
But i am still not that sure about my issues. I really would like someone to reply
Guys, i guess you are all professionals and also very sure what you guys do and what not to do. But as said, i am new to Android and even if i could do the researches by my own i would ask for confirm becuz please accept my apologuze for that but i wont do anything wrong !
Re: [Q] from Newb | What SGS3 do i have and
Ok, I'm going to be gentle on you......
Firstly, any help you get will be from people like me, ordinary users that have taken time to learn and then share knowledge.
The forum operates in various principals.
One of the fundamentals is that people read, read, read and learn...
Further to that using either Google or the forum search facility should preceed any posting of questions, as they have almost certainly been asked before.
Questions asking advice about Roms are nearly always considered as best Rom threads, which aren't allowed. The reasons for this are that every users needs are individual and also, from a developers point of view, it is no fun having your Rom compared to other people's Roms.
Just as an additional note, no one earns money from what they do here, it is just people sharing work they have done (in the same spirit as the principal of "open source"
So reread my first post to you, and follow the steps I advised, and you will become a good XDA user, as opposed to a bad one!
dekatch said:
Hello,
....
Basics read first .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
Secondly, i dont ask you for the best rom/kernel but i ask you for some Roms with less preinstalled as possible but as much installed as needed.
Read the rom descriptions yourself otherwise it is a what rom best rom post .
You are better to understand the basics before flashing or you may brick your phone .
jje
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I am fairly new to rooting so far I have explored app removal, have created full back ups, performed a restore, have flashed a few zips including the new 4.2 camera. Now I want to move on particularly with a view to increasing speed/smoothness etc for which I know that I will need to flash a ROM and or kernel. It is not the how that bothers me so much - lots of good advice here I have TWRP installed, have ODIN both desktop and mobile ODIN, but WHICH to try. I am currently on JB 4.1.2 stock rooted with an i9300. Through different apps I can find lots of compatible ROMS listed but almost no information about which ones are considered good and why. Clearly I want to start with one that is better, or at least as good as, my current stock but none of the listed ROMS say anything much about their features. There is a little sparse information about Kernels but not much for a person starting out to flash their first ROM. I have searched on here for any kind of comparison table, but if there is one I am either searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
no. read the rules
Give MiUI a go over on miui android.
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searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Please start by reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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Thank you but I am puzzled
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no. read the rules
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I glance through forum rules in the same way that I read terms and conditions and instruction manuals - that is that I scan them for anything that may be important and refer to them occasionally if I find I am doing something wrong. I would strongly suspect that many people do not even do this much. So having encountered a problem of apparently doing something wrong I took the trouble (once I had found them) to read fully through the rules here http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 . In all honesty I cant see how my post contravenes any rule in that, as a newbie, I am just asking for opinions and sources for what I need. I could have just googled but the last time I did that I nearly bricked my tablet, and was told that this was the place to come for help and advice. I did follow the rule to search the forums first but that didn't turn up anything useful
My instinct was to post this in the developer forum but, since this clearly states it is for experienced user/developer discussion only, I didn't.
I don't understand why it would be so wrong to have feature lists and experience comments for what is developed here. I did find some very good descriptions from Omega and for that reason will probably try one of these first but it would be nice to know how others stack up and whether, for example, there are any other 4.2 ROMs out there.
I do thank you for taking the time to read my request.
Clive
Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
i recommend playing with stock roms first before trying custom roms. get to know your phone first.
flash
root
debloat
apply mods
etc
etc.
I have found that now - though not in main rules!
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Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant. I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list - after all the main for rooting a phone (other than "because I can") is, I would think, because (a) you want more control (b) you want to get rid of bloatware (c) because you want features that your current ROM doesn't have but which could be available (d) because you want to overclock the processor - within sensible limits, or not - All of these in my experience amount to wanting a "cooler smarter device"
I do appreciate that this is a developers forum and I will in future try and pay more attention to rules here. Would it be wrong to ask if any of the experienced developers here know where else to go for some guidance about what newly issued ROMs contain, not necessarily rating them but just saying what is different to stock. I have in mind the sort of information posted by Omega in the forums here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful - It would be something I would be quite happy to subscribe to with a fee, with the income returned to the developers who contribute. It would be so useful to people like myself who do not have hours of time and (at least until I have gained more confidence) the nerve to keep switching ROMS
Each ROM has a changelog for each release
Just read it
thanks for that good advice
I have been reading more and can see that I can probably flash most of the things I want to my stock ROM
I actually prefer this because I do like Touch Wiz over all the other launchers I have tried
My only concern is that so far I haven't been able update a stock ROM without going through the rooting process again and re-making all the mods - should I look for stock roms that have been rooted - each time I re-root with ODIN I am back with CWM recovery rather than TWRP - I haven't read the benefits of one over the other but I know that on my phone I can't read the CWM commands on recovery screen so prefer TWRP
I am sure that people must have found ways to update to new stock versions without losing root so will keep on searching - time is the biggest enemy as I have been four hours on here already today!
Clive
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
jje
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cynical but at least funny
djembey said:
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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As it gave me a laugh I have given you thanks though posted a comment on you tube too
time is the enemy
JJEgan said:
gbswales said:
I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
jje
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Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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gbswales said:
JJEgan said:
Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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slaphead20 said:
gbswales said:
We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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And to add a prelude to slappy's post...BACKUP! BACKUP! BACKUP! before doing anything to your phone every single time. So many arses have been saved because of this.
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Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514