tegra 4 14 hours HD playback - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

"Tegra 4 consumes up to 45 percent less power than its predecessor, Tegra 3, in common use cases. And it enables up to 14 hours of HD video playback on phones." can someone please explain this to me? how are they saying it will get 14 hours of HD playback? how are you getting that information with just the processor, and no info on battery, screen, etc?

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[Q] Pantech Burst Battery Eater ? any help with Power Management tweak?

I just bought Pantech Burst. compare to other new phone, this one looks very competitive but price is just a fraction half of them.
dual core 1.2ghz (full clock 1.5ghz)
andreo 220
1gb ram
16gb internal memory
4" super amoled wvga (pentile matrix = Hate this!)
overall performance, this one is really impressive fast and easy to use.
HOWEVER, battery also DRAIN FAST ! ( 4 hours gaming, or 6hour wifi internet suffing, or 4 hours calling, or 5hr 3g internet surfing )
is there any one can tweak the power management to consume less battery on light task like, 2D internet ? underclock, undervolt.... ?
if wifi/bt/3g-data/gps..... are off, only for receive call, i can use up to 38hrs standby. if only for receive calls, other phones can standby up to 3 to 5 days. still much better than this one.
Most everything is currently being discussed on another thread. atleast until we can get our own section on here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487576

What do you consider 'good' battery life?

Last time I checked mine at around 3%, it had been on for 1 day, 18 hours and 7 minutes, with the screen on for 6 and a half hours.
I was also playing Shadowgun: Deadzone for about half an hour, as well as several other lighter games, and using Archos Player to watch videos off a LAN server on my laptop.
That's on stock rooted and unlocked bootloader.
So, what would you consider good battery life for your N10?
ManUtdRul3 said:
Last time I checked mine at around 3%, it had been on for 1 day, 18 hours and 7 minutes, with the screen on for 6 and a half hours.
I was also playing Shadowgun: Deadzone for about half an hour, as well as several other lighter games, and using Archos Player to watch videos off a LAN server on my laptop.
That's on stock rooted and unlocked bootloader.
So, what would you consider good battery life for your N10?
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Probably 14+ hours of constant use like some of the smart phones (like the droid razr max). Probably unrealistic with a 10 inch 2560x1600 resolution. At least for now.
On the nexus 10 on a good charge cycle I can get 10 hours of consistent use including games, movie, and surfing the web.
ManUtdRul3 said:
Last time I checked mine at around 3%, it had been on for 1 day, 18 hours and 7 minutes, with the screen on for 6 and a half hours.
I was also playing Shadowgun: Deadzone for about half an hour, as well as several other lighter games, and using Archos Player to watch videos off a LAN server on my laptop.
That's on stock rooted and unlocked bootloader.
So, what would you consider good battery life for your N10?
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I'm 100% out of the box stock and usually get 5-6 hours screen on time and the total on time can be anywhere from 1-3days. I usually keep location services off unless needed.
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I never let it drop down to more than around 30%, simply because the battery lasts me very long. I get a week with screen-on times of 5 hours or so. I don't play games, I use it mainly for browsing, email, PDF reading and some note/todo apps. If there are power-hungry apps, the battery drops much faster - but if not, I feel it lasts forever, especially in standby, even with all sorts of stuff syncing in the background.
Unplugged my N10 from charge this morning at around half 7 and went to school and when I got back at around half 4, I had only lost 1% of charge. That was a very pleasant surprise! I was expecting to lose 5% AT LEAST
tyhe314 said:
Probably 14+ hours of constant use like some of the smart phones (like the droid razr max). Probably unrealistic with a 10 inch 2560x1600 resolution. At least for now.
On the nexus 10 on a good charge cycle I can get 10 hours of consistent use including games, movie, and surfing the web.
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10 hours screen on time!?
tyhe314 said:
Probably 14+ hours of constant use like some of the smart phones (like the droid razr max). Probably unrealistic with a 10 inch 2560x1600 resolution. At least for now.
On the nexus 10 on a good charge cycle I can get 10 hours of consistent use including games, movie, and surfing the web.
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The only phone that comes close to 14 hours of screen on time is that single phone you mentioned. So it is far from the norm and is not considered "good" but is considered "great". Good category would be 7-9 hours.
My tablet can get over 13 hours of screen on time:
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Looks like I could do between 14-15 hours of screen on time before it completely died. I consider this to be really good. Displays take up a ton of power and the fact that we can have a 10" screen and still get more than half a day of constant, straight use if quite impressive to me.
EniGmA1987 said:
The only phone that comes close to 14 hours of screen on time is that single phone you mentioned. So it is far from the norm and is not considered "good" but is considered "great". Good category would be 7-9 hours.
My tablet can get over 13 hours of screen on time:
Looks like I could do between 14-15 hours of screen on time before it completely died. I consider this to be really good. Displays take up a ton of power and the fact that we can have a 10" screen and still get more than half a day of constant, straight use if quite impressive to me.
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Just curious of your settings, kernel and ROM...etc? Ive never seen anyone break 10 hours of screen time...even myself when I was undervolted using ktoonz kernel and governors lose 10% an hour which would translate to 10 hours of screen time. No gaming involved because that kill's the battery.
If your using ktoonz kernel would you mind posting your settings so I could take a look? Wouldn't mind more screen time personally . Thanks in advance!
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EniGmA1987 said:
The only phone that comes close to 14 hours of screen on time is that single phone you mentioned. So it is far from the norm and is not considered "good" but is considered "great". Good category would be 7-9 hours.
My tablet can get over 13 hours of screen on time:
Looks like I could do between 14-15 hours of screen on time before it completely died. I consider this to be really good. Displays take up a ton of power and the fact that we can have a 10" screen and still get more than half a day of constant, straight use if quite impressive to me.
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That's impressive right there.
Edit do u keep the WiFi off the whole time? If so I can see where u get the extra screen time from. I will have to try a full charge to zero with the Wi-Fi off.
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itd be enoguh if i came through the day with one charge..
My Tab2 10.1 had impressive battery life. Standby power draw was minimal and simple tasks like surfing the net gave me much better battery life than my N10. I'd be happier if they could match it what I could see on the Tab2. I know there isn't a number associated with that so take it fwiw.
EniGmA1987 said:
The only phone that comes close to 14 hours of screen on time is that single phone you mentioned. So it is far from the norm and is not considered "good" but is considered "great". Good category would be 7-9 hours.
My tablet can get over 13 hours of screen on time:
Looks like I could do between 14-15 hours of screen on time before it completely died. I consider this to be really good. Displays take up a ton of power and the fact that we can have a 10" screen and still get more than half a day of constant, straight use if quite impressive to me.
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Jeez. We definitely require details on rom, kernel, etc. That's awesome.
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AKleetness said:
That's impressive right there.
Edit do u keep the WiFi off the whole time? If so I can see where u get the extra screen time from. I will have to try a full charge to zero with the Wi-Fi off.
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It was on for just very small bits when syncing stuff. I leave it off almost always as it creates too much heat when playing heavy games and brings throttling on a lot harder, and I have no use for the extra power drain when I am reading a book, which is what I do most on the tablet these days. But I realize not everyone has the same habits as I do and does very different things. So leaving wifi off almost all the time isnt an option for some people.
The ROM is CM10 from WAY back when by Craig. I think it was built is mid to late November? I honestly still find it perfectly adequate for my needs and very stable. I keep coming back to it from all the other ROMs I have tried.
Kernel was a build of the KTManta kernel from ktoonsez, build was sometime in December towards Christmas time. It was the build right before he added touchboost to most of the governors. I am not a fan of touchboost as it has greatly lowered my battery life, but it sure does make things smooth I use that kernel because I can undervolt both CPU and GPU. I was using the PegasusQ governor, which the stock settings for it in this kernel as the ones I asked ktoonsez to put in so you dont need to modify the settings for any special tweaking. I did however lower max speed to 1.2GHz as that is plenty when doing most things.
Here is a remade config file with pretty close to the same options I had used, but compatible with the newest 1-29-13 build of the kernel and tweaker app:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?geaveoa5tj43zpo
I say pretty close to the same because I increased CPU and GPU voltages a bit in that config so everyone should be able to run it. Many would most likely have a problem with the config otherwise as the majority of users seem to not be able to undervolt their GPU hardly at all.
EniGmA1987 said:
It was on for just very small bits when syncing stuff. I leave it off almost always as it creates too much heat when playing heavy games and brings throttling on a lot harder, and I have no use for the extra power drain when I am reading a book, which is what I do most on the tablet these days. But I realize not everyone has the same habits as I do and does very different things. So leaving wifi off almost all the time isnt an option for some people.
The ROM is CM10 from WAY back when by Craig. I think it was built is mid to late November? I honestly still find it perfectly adequate for my needs and very stable. I keep coming back to it from all the other ROMs I have tried.
Kernel was a build of the KTManta kernel from ktoonsez, build was sometime in December towards Christmas time. It was the build right before he added touchboost to most of the governors. I am not a fan of touchboost as it has greatly lowered my battery life, but it sure does make things smooth I use that kernel because I can undervolt both CPU and GPU. I was using the PegasusQ governor, which the stock settings for it in this kernel as the ones I asked ktoonsez to put in so you dont need to modify the settings for any special tweaking. I did however lower max speed to 1.2GHz as that is plenty when doing most things.
Here is a remade config file with pretty close to the same options I had used, but compatible with the newest 1-29-13 build of the kernel and tweaker app:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?geaveoa5tj43zpo
I say pretty close to the same because I increased CPU and GPU voltages a bit in that config so everyone should be able to run it. Many would most likely have a problem with the config otherwise as the majority of users seem to not be able to undervolt their GPU hardly at all.
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Wow. You increased the voltages? Those are really low! Thanks for posting your settings. Really appreciate it
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My iPad 3 got around 14 hours of constant use before it died so I more than cut my battery life in half going to the Nexus 10. I get around 5.5-6 hours of screen on time on my Nexus 10. I use the lowest brightness setting when I use my tablet. I'd love it if my Nexus 10 had better battery life but it is what it is. Maybe I'll sell it if Samsung comes out with a new Note tablet.
EniGmA1987 said:
Kernel was a build of the KTManta kernel from ktoonsez, build was sometime in December towards Christmas time. It was the build right before he added touchboost to most of the governors. I am not a fan of touchboost as it has greatly lowered my battery life, but it sure does make things smooth
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Ohhh is that what happened? I had some great battery life going on for a while when I first tried ktmanta back in December, and have been feeling kind of frustrated after "losing" it and not understanding why. Would you be able to share that version of the kernel so I could do some comparing?
just remembered he recently added the ability to disable touch boost for the gpu and cpu. Going to try that out and see if it improves battery life.
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You can set touchboost to 0 in any governor and it will be turned off.
Ktoonservative is the only governor with a touchboost for both CPU and GPU. Very smooth, but ramping both up drains more battery. So you definitely wont get into that "great" range on battery life when using it. But at least it doesnt tank the battery so you can still get some decent life with it on.
Wish I had 10 hours straight to be on my tablet..... Thought I used mine intensively, but I only plug mine in at night. Use it for streaming video(rental movies.. Not really youtube) and a few hours online. Maybe 6 hours a day.. Never come close to getting near 40 percent or less.
I've been using my Nexus 10 for work and play today. About 13.5 hours on battery so far, about 6 hours screen on time, and my battery is at 57%. Screen brightness has been at 50% all day. This is pretty typical experience for me. Stock ROM and kernel, except for being unlocked and rooted.
... beamed from my Nexus 10 to your planet
I'm at 6 hrs of screen time and 12 hrs of standby time and the battery is at 37%. Running on stock everything with unlocked bootloader and root. I use it at 0% brightness almost all the time and have everything except NFC turned on.
I'm on course for 9 hrs of screen time but I think I should be doing better considering I'm using it at low brightness. Do you guys think using custom kernel will make a difference?
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I watched the entire avengers movie in 1080p while on a coach a bit back, Took me down to 76% battery. My needs mean that makes the battery more than sufficient for me

Games and Battery?

How fast is the drainage of the battery while playing games?
Like GTA3 for example? I am asking this because I have an HTC Sensation now, and con only play for around 1 hour and it goes from 100 to 10 percent. Im very curious of how the S3 handles battery drainage and because its quad core.
Playing 3D games you will get around 3 or 4 hours depending on the ROM, kernel and power saving options, 2D games around 5 to 6 hours. It's very subjective, but this phone lasts at least twice as long doing anything compared to my old sensation.
Normally my phone last 3hrs+ of playing non-stop in Real Racing 3 or Modern Combat 4 (brightness 50%] a bit more if you lower the brightness.

Getting FPS(Frames per second)drops in games.

Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
Sardar0131 said:
Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
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Buy another phone, not Huawei their Kirin processors are not good. They somehow perform well in benchmarks but they are a lot worse in real life than snapdragon or exynos (and of course apple)
I benchmarked many games... Maximum 10 min of gaming then there is thermal throttling because it gets too hot. Then fps drops 1/3 at least.
Just tested pubg on HDR setting and anti aliasing enabled. It starts with 40fps but after 5 min drops to 15-25fps and also lags, unplayable.
Even normal games with not so good graphics get fps drops after 10-15min like Sonic. Common Huawei, my sister is playing Sonic on a 250€ Samsung A5 2017
Look at the screenshots, it starts with 40fps but many lags and frame drops. After a couple minutes it drops to constant 20fps. The other shows CPU usage but that is not working obviously. Somehow it gets an average of 30fps but that's bs. It is not playable.
Yeah.. Same with me when i switch to HD settings of pubG it lags little bit.. But when i switch on HDR it become unplayable. I will upgrade to one plus soon.
Thanks
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
same here. using m10p and lagging on PubG even on High settings. But it improved on the latest firmware (BLA-L29 C636 B138)
PUBG lagg on Mate 10 Pro not because of Kirin. It laggs because PUBG is not optimized game at all. Same for people that play PUBG throu their desktop computers. I watched my friend playing PUBG on his 2k PC and still gettin' FPS dropped and lagg. Although Mate gets hot after 10 till 20 minutes of gaming.
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
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Thanks for this info, sounds like I should expect similar to what I get at the moment then, maybe an improvement once the update comes out to boost the GPU.
I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly,even on longer playing sessions....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
troublecro said:
I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
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Sounds to me that they like bringing out these new features, meaning these new features are "let's break something that worked perfectly before"...that's the gist I've got off these forums.....I'm hoping I'm not going to regret my decision now I've ordered the Mate 10 Pro
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
maverick1103 said:
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
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Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
troublecro said:
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
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One of the main reason I'm moving to the Mate 10 Pro is for battery life, it'll be nice to have a phone that can last a whole day with heavy use, my last phone that did that was iPhone 6s Plus.
Sardar0131 said:
Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
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I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
maverick1103 said:
I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
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It does cuz PBUG is their main "selling" point
Fps drop bcause of overheat. the cpu and gpu will reduce the speed when reach certain temp to prevent soc chip die....if u are gamer, use smartphone cooler or buy rog phone
Saadkhalid786 said:
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
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The power genius app, is it an app? Can u elaborate more on this? Need root to do this?

Discussion-Poco F1 vs OnePlus 6 vs Mi A2 vs Note 5 Pro vs Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb

Just searched through the Youtube and I found a lot of people comparing Poco F1 with Honor Play and Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb in the battery drain test with PUBG, Asphalt 9, Clash of Clans, Youtube video browsing, Camera recording, Antutu benchmark test, etc.
Here's the link of the test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_504wnbqU
Devices Tested:
Poco F1- 4000mah
OnePlus 6- 3300mah
Mi A2- 3000mah
Note 5 Pro- 4000mah
Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb- 5000mah
The result is:
Poco F1- 4 hours 53 min
OnePlus 6- 4 hours 21 min
Mi A2- 3 hours 42 min
Note 5 Pro- 4 hours 43 min
Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb- 5 hours 51 min
For Asus, I can see when it did the Antutu Benchmark twice, the scores are totally different which are 109293 and 69845. Why is it so?
I saw someone commented that:
zenfone's SD 636 programmed to save battery on extended use. It's turn off Kryo performance cores and stays active with only 4 cortex A53 cores. That's why after 10% of charge the benchmark scores degrade in 69k points. While with performance core it scores 109k.
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Does really Poco F1 survive less than 5 hours with these test? Anyone has any idea in this? Do share out if you have done any battery drain test.

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