[Q] Rooting issue since new patch - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Greetings all!
I have been a long time user, first time poster, but have rooted my phone many times with success, however after a mini update today, the rootkit I used last time kind of worked, however most of the root functionality no longer works. I assume im just using an out of date rootkit.
Model: GT-i9300
Android Version: 4.1.2
Baseband: i9300BVELK1
Build: JZO54K.i9300XXELLA
The device does say modified but the apps still function as if it isn't rooted.
I am on Orange France Telecom living in France, using the handset from Orange. Which software download do I need to get the root working correctly please? I have checked alot of the guides but all point to what I assume is an out of date rootkit.
Thank you for your response in advance.

You can try updating the binaries from within the app.
And please don't ask questions in General

Glebun said:
You can try updating the binaries from within the app.
And please don't ask questions in General
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How do I do that please? I am concerned I will break my phone if I mess too much. Very much a beginner with rooting outside of the guides.

Go to the superuser app and do it there

Glebun said:
Go to the superuser app and do it there
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I may have been unclear, I don't know what the phrase "updating a binary" means. Thank you for taking an interest in helping though.
Also the version of the root software was Odin 1.64 I think (working from memory as not at home right now).

Bastrion said:
I may have been unclear, I don't know what the phrase "updating a binary" means. Thank you for taking an interest in helping though.
Also the version of the root software was Odin 1.64 I think (working from memory as not at home right now).
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Does anyone have any advice on how to fix this please? I am sitting at home now and I think I was using 1.85 Odin not 1.64. Why does my device say modified but still won't give me root access to apps etc.

Bastrion said:
Does anyone have any advice on how to fix this please? I am sitting at home now and I think I was using 1.85 Odin not 1.64. Why does my device say modified but still won't give me root access to apps etc.
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You should root using this its ptobably the best and easiest way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
Download the zip from post 3 extract the MD5 file and flash via odin 1.85 is ok

Ok...
The problem being is that the root hasn't worked. I get through the root, but each time in the past, it does some file verifying where it says "verifying 1 of 145 files" or something similar, and then adds SUser and CWM - It doesn't do this after this root, and the phone, while saying rooted, won't work as a rooted phone. All my unlicensed apps now fail to load.
I really think that the micro update installed via KIES today needs a new rootkit. I tried the above update, and all that did was delete the Super User app too >_<
Thank you for your patience so far. This stuff is very complicated outside of the normal rooting.

Bastrion said:
The problem being is that the root hasn't worked. I get through the root, but each time in the past, it does some file verifying where it says "verifying 1 of 145 files" or something similar, and then adds SUser and CWM - It doesn't do this after this root, and the phone, while saying rooted, won't work as a rooted phone. All my unlicensed apps now fail to load.
I really think that the micro update installed via KIES today needs a new rootkit. I tried the above update, and all that did was delete the Super User app too >_<
Thank you for your patience so far. This stuff is very complicated outside of the normal rooting.
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If you use CF Auto Root and lose SU just download SU from the market, this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5zdXBlcnN1Il0.
CF Auto root doesn't contain CWM you need to install that seperately or install TWRP recovery

ag4751 said:
If you use CF Auto Root and lose SU just download SU from the market, this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5zdXBlcnN1Il0.
CF Auto root doesn't contain CWM you need to install that seperately or install TWRP recovery
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Ok so made a bit of progress, got the SuperSU on there again, but apps still function as unlicensed. This was all working fine until the update this morning, but at least we are progressing.

Still haven't solved it. Some apps work, some don't. I even tried Lucky Patcher, no joy.

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[Q] No superuser permission after following root procedure

Hi all,
I rooted my galaxy s 2 a few weeks back with no problems. I followed the dummy's guide on a different forum, using odin and flashing a new kernel.
But then I decided to unroot which I did with no problems either -I went into the superuser app and checking the unroot box which uninstalled superuser and removed root on the phone (it left CWM though).
Today, I've decided to reroot it like I did the first time. However, this time superuser didn't install and I don't have root access at all.
Any ideas on what I should do?
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MistahBungle said:
Given you're using a method from a different site that people here may not have experience with, no idea. Me, I'd flash a CFRoot kernel (assuming you have an I9100 or I9100T; if you don't, do not flash one of these kernels. You might end up bricking your phone). Instructions in this thread are very clear, take your time & read the first page thoroughly & make sure you understand the process clearly before you try it. The section in bold red which says 'Help ! Which file do I use ?' has the info which will help you work out which CFRoot kernel to use.
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Thanks for the reply MistahBungle. That's exactly the process that I followed. Didn't have any problems with the rooting process - downloaded the LP9 kernel, entered phone into download mode, and flashed the kernel using Odin. Got the yellow triangle.
I suspect the problem arose because I 'unrooted' it through the superuser app, which then got rid of the superuser app?
Today, I tried following the same process but superuser won't uninstall. I downloaded the root checker basic app which also said the galaxy s 2 doesn't have root permission even though I followed the same process.
MistahBungle said:
Given you're using a method from a different site that people here may not have experience with, no idea. Me, I'd flash a CFRoot kernel (assuming you have an I9100 or I9100T; if you don't, do not flash one of these kernels. You might end up bricking your phone). Instructions in this thread are very clear, take your time & read the first page thoroughly & make sure you understand the process clearly before you try it. The section in bold red which says 'Help ! Which file do I use ?' has the info which will help you work out which CFRoot kernel to use.
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Thanks for the reply MistahBungle. That's exactly the process that I followed. Didn't have any problems with the rooting process - downloaded the LP9 kernel, entered phone into download mode, and flashed the kernel using Odin. Got the yellow triangle.
I suspect the problem arose because I 'unrooted' it through the superuser app, which then got rid of the superuser app?
Today, I tried following the same process but superuser won't uninstall. I downloaded the root checker basic app which also said the galaxy s 2 doesn't have root permission even though I followed the same process.
MistahBungle said:
Edit - Although first up, before you do anything else, have you tried installing Su from Google Play ?
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Yes I have downloaded and installed the superuser app from the market, but it doesn't have any root permissions I don't think. I also tried opening up the CWM app but it says it needs SU permissions (which it doesn't have because SU is not installed and I cant seem to root it).
What to do? I'm thinking of trying another root method on xda i.e. the busybox one that doesn't require flashing an unstable kernel.
Edit - Although first up, before you do anything else, have you tried installing Su from Google Play ?[/QUOTE]
Yes I have downloaded and installed the superuser app from the market, but it doesn't have any root permissions I don't think. I also tried opening up the CWM app but it says it needs SU permissions (which it doesn't have because SU is not installed and I cant seem to root it).
What to do? I'm thinking of trying another root method on xda i.e. the busybox one that doesn't require flashing an unstable kernel.
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[Q] Frustrating Problem With Rooting

Hi guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy s3 GT-i9300 running 4.1.1 Baseband 19300XXDLIB.
I have been trying and trying and trying for the last few days to root my mobile. I take care following all of the steps and I have tried every type of root program and files I think are available but even though they download to the phone and reboot into their custom recovery, then install the files needed to root, none of them have worked!!
It's strange because the phone is just unrootable it seems. I have tried several versions of Odin. I've tried what should be 1 click rooters but nothing works! The most recent files I have used to download to my phone via Odin were CF-Auto-Root-m0-gti9300, CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4, SuperOneClickv2.2-ShortFuse, SuperOneClickv2.3.1-ShortFuse and SuperOneClickv2.3.3-ShortFuse all of which have been recommended to me and I have strictly followed YouTube videos and written guides. I don't think I am doing anything wrong yet I still have no root access. The last root I tried installed a CWM app (I know it stands for Clock Work Mod but not sure what I am supposed to do with it) but not SuperSU which is supposed to come with it.
Please can someone help? I'm tearing my hair out here!
I should probably point out I am not using the stock ROM as I did manage to brick my phone at one point and had to install another firmware, although I would like to go back to my original firmware yet I am not sure what it was...is it possible to figure out what the stock firmware should be? The phone is unbranded from the UK.
Many thanks
I should probably point out I am not using the stock ROM as I did manage to brick my phone at one point and had to install another firmware, although I would like to go back to my original firmware yet I am not sure what it was...is it possible to figure out what the stock firmware should be? The phone is unbranded from the UK.
No you can only guess .
TO ROOT .
Factory reset the phone and install CF root 6.4 via Odin .
But its really pointless rooting when you don't have a clue as to why or what .
BASICS .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
May also be because your computer hasn't been installed with the samsung drivers yet? Kies i think it's called..
Have you tried downloading supersu from the play store? And be sure to not try superuser but supersu.
I had the same thing with cf-autoroot. supersu wasn't there and I didn't have root. Tried several times, never worked. After that I tried rooting with the old cf-root that also installs cwm recovery. Recovery was there but no supersu and the phone didn't get root. Tried that several times too but that didn't help either, although that is how I rooted my phone successfully right after I had bought it. Went back to cf-autoroot, same result, no root. But as soon as I downloaded the app supersu manually and updated the binarys as it tells you to at first start, I had root.
Zelmer said:
May also be because your computer hasn't been installed with the samsung drivers yet? Kies i think it's called..
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Kies is not required (and its junkie bloatware that doesn't properly clean itself up on uninstall anyway)
Windows can pull the drivers from WU.
You Sir, are a legend! Thank you very much, you have sorted my problem I had SuperUser instead of SuperSU like you stated. Who would've thought it'd be so easy to fix?
shamez23 said:
Have you tried downloading supersu from the play store? And be sure to not try superuser but supersu.
I had the same thing with cf-autoroot. supersu wasn't there and I didn't have root. Tried several times, never worked. After that I tried rooting with the old cf-root that also installs cwm recovery. Recovery was there but no supersu and the phone didn't get root. Tried that several times too but that didn't help either, although that is how I rooted my phone successfully right after I had bought it. Went back to cf-autoroot, same result, no root. But as soon as I downloaded the app supersu manually and updated the binarys as it tells you to at first start, I had root.
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You should probably not just imagine that just because someone has a problem that they don't have a clue what they are doing. I have done this numerous amounts of times with several phones, my Samsung was just slightly more difficult since I had made an easy mistake by not taking note of my original firmware and by not realizing that I needed SuperSU and not SuperUser (which I'm sure is a common and easy mistake).
Try next time not to put a fellow site member down.
JJEgan said:
I should probably point out I am not using the stock ROM as I did manage to brick my phone at one point and had to install another firmware, although I would like to go back to my original firmware yet I am not sure what it was...is it possible to figure out what the stock firmware should be? The phone is unbranded from the UK.
No you can only guess .
TO ROOT .
Factory reset the phone and install CF root 6.4 via Odin .
But its really pointless rooting when you don't have a clue as to why or what .
BASICS .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
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I did actually install Kies but thanks for the help anyway
Zelmer said:
May also be because your computer hasn't been installed with the samsung drivers yet? Kies i think it's called..
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LOST ROOT

Phone has been fine, rooted with cwm5.5. This is wifey phone so I keep messing with it at a minimum. At some point I noticed it no longer has root. It runs stock 4.1.2. With a couple of root apps - such as AdAway-which is no longer working and has error message "Either subinary could not be found or you did not allow root permissions for AdAway"
Superuser app has this error "There are currently no superuser app policies." then "Superuser binary must be updated" attempting to update results to error "There was an error installing superuser. "
I rooted the phone again with the same CWM ver. file. attempted to flash superuser but it errored and aborted installation. I rebooted and installed rom manager so that I could update CWM. That errored out as well. Root verifier confirms there's no root on the phone. I have installed busy box but it has the same error message no root access.
I thought to root with CWM ver 6.0.4.6 but installation aborted. I tried TWRP but it aborted as well. Only CWM 5.5 works which my normal routed is then to flash superuser, install rom manager and then have it update to CWM to ver 6.xx. But his time none of these is working. How do I regain root?
jayinc11 said:
Phone has been fine, rooted with cwm5.5. This is wifey phone so I keep messing with it at a minimum. At some point I noticed it no longer has root. It runs stock 4.1.2. With a couple of root apps - such as AdAway-which is no longer working and has error message "Either subinary could not be found or you did not allow root permissions for AdAway"
Superuser app has this error "There are currently no superuser app policies." then "Superuser binary must be updated" attempting to update results to error "There was an error installing superuser. "
I rooted the phone again with the same CWM ver. file. attempted to flash superuser but it errored and aborted installation. I rebooted and installed rom manager so that I could update CWM. That errored out as well. Root verifier confirms there's no root on the phone. I have installed busy box but it has the same error message no root access.
I thought to root with CWM ver 6.0.4.6 but installation aborted. I tried TWRP but it aborted as well. Only CWM 5.5 works which my normal routed is then to flash superuser, install rom manager and then have it update to CWM to ver 6.xx. But his time none of these is working. How do I regain root?
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have you tried flashing another ROM? rumor has it that custom roms contain and are pre rooted.
captemo said:
have you tried flashing another ROM? rumor has it that custom roms contain and are pre rooted.
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Initially I had actually, but camcorder issues, modems with sporty service ... we a deal breaker. Si I just restored it to stock with kies to avoid more lip. Only thing I did was root the stock so I could install a few apps such as AdAway. I don't plan to do stock on this unless I can get get rooted stock rom.
jayinc11 said:
Initially I had actually, but camcorder issues, modems with sporty service ... we a deal breaker. Si I just restored it to stock with kies to avoid more lip. Only thing I did was root the stock so I could install a few apps such as AdAway. I don't plan to do stock on this unless I can get get rooted stock rom.
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When I rooted my phone I was wary of using methods that would have me going through either download mode or having to install a custom recovery (which eventually became pointless since I had to do both to flash roms anways lol) but at the beginning I was trying to use something simple.. while googling I stumbled upon this http://www.kingoapp.com/ and rooted from there.. it's like a one-click root kind of thing and seems to keep the root working regardless.. maybe you wanna check it out and see if it helps, in case you loose your root again. If you wanna run your phone stock but rooted, at least after doing the restoration via keys you'll keep the stock samsung recovery.
Hope it helps!
wavv.drama said:
When I rooted my phone I was wary of using methods that would have me going through either download mode or having to install a custom recovery (which eventually became pointless since I had to do both to flash roms anways lol) but at the beginning I was trying to use something simple.. while googling I stumbled upon this http://www.kingoapp.com/ and rooted from there.. it's like a one-click root kind of thing and seems to keep the root working regardless.. maybe you wanna check it out and see if it helps, in case you loose your root again. If you wanna run your phone stock but rooted, at least after doing the restoration via keys you'll keep the stock samsung recovery.
Hope it helps!
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Thanx for that link/suggestion. I didn't see Note i717 listed under supported devices. Did you if this app supports rooting the i717?
jayinc11 said:
Thanx for that link/suggestion. I didn't see Note i717 listed under supported devices. Did you if this app supports rooting the i717?
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I know, it doesn't show our device, but I kind of went with the home page "root all devices" statement they had and it worked perfectly fine. I did the same with my sister's Note 2 t0ltetmo which is in fact a canadian Videotron phone I gave her and worked fine too. I do not believe that that Note 2 is in the list either, but it still worked
wavv.drama said:
I know, it doesn't show our device, but I kind of went with the home page "root all devices" statement they had and it worked perfectly fine. I did the same with my sister's Note 2 t0ltetmo which is in fact a canadian Videotron phone I gave her and worked fine too. I do not believe that that Note 2 is in the list either, but it still worked
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Hey it worked some - I decided to test it on my old Captivate. The only thing is it doesn't install CWM/TWRP or similar. So I cannot install a custom ROM. Is it not supposed to install a custom recovery? If not how do I do that having rooted with Kingoapp?
Thanx again for suggesting this app.
jayinc11 said:
Hey it worked some - I decided to test it on my old Captivate. The only thing is it doesn't install CWM/TWRP or similar. So I cannot install a custom ROM. Is it not supposed to install a custom recovery? If not how do I do that having rooted with Kingoapp?
Thanx again for suggesting this app.
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My pleasure, and glad to hear it worked! And no, lol, sorry. The app only roots your phone, but it does not install a recovery. The good thing about it is that at least you can run stock and use any rooted apps, like I do with my Asus HD7 (for which, unfortunately I haven't found either a custom recovery or a custom ROM to flash, so I run it stock but mess around with root apps)
However..
I looked into this Galaxy Captive thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2547997 and didn't find a recovery itself that could be downloadble.
So while googling I stumbled upon this: http://true-android.blogspot.ca/2013/10/how-to-install-custom-recovery-in-most.html.
I my english is good enough to understand, it would seem as if the goomanager app allows u to install recoveries directly from your phone, so you could maybe try if you wish.. If u do, please let us know how it worked, as I'm sure others also would benefit from this.
If you want a CWM recovery for either the Note i717, the Note2 T889 or the S2 T989 let me know and I'll upload them, as those are the only ones I have ATM.
Cheers!

[Q] Lost root, help downgrading to 4.1.2

Hi all,
I'm a bit of a n00b at this, so please forgive me.
I started with Android 4.1.2, Kernel 3.4.0-g298631f-02047-gec59411, build 10.1.C.0.370.
I rooted it using Doomlord's easy-root and then when attempting to flash custom recovery, I accidentally flashed some other .img and the tablet wouldn't even turn on. I cried. Like, a few good tears.
Went online, found out I wasn't screwed, and figured out how to flash SGP312_10.4.B.0.577_VMo DE_1273-3719_WIFI312G.
But, as I said, I lost root, and am confused about how to downgrade back to 4.1.2 properly without bricking.
Here is my current info:
Version 4.3, Kernel 3.4.0-g1b44cd5, build 10.4.b.0.577
In this thread, under "Downgrade your rom" and "back to 4.1.2 and rooting" it says "if you're in 4.3, Flash this SGP 351 4.1.2 FTF using Flash Tool and it will be booted in 4.1.2. if you have different Variant downgrade to your Variant FTF file"
What is a variant FTF file? Can I just use any SGP 312 4.1.2 FTF? Does anyone know a safe one to use?
Thanks!
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
worf_1977 said:
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
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Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
UberBaumer said:
Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
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I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
Cat McGowan said:
I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
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THANK YOU, SIR.
I really appreciate it!
Back onto 4.1 and just rooted again. Now I just need to manage not screwing up installing CWM like I did last time!
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
UberBaumer said:
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
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TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
Cat McGowan said:
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
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Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
UberBaumer said:
Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
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I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
Cat McGowan said:
I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
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Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
UberBaumer said:
Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
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When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
Cat McGowan said:
When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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Damn, maybe I was a bit too hasty in rooting my tablet; why is it that I can no longer to OTA updates? If I were to buy SuperSU PRO (for survival mode) is there any benefit to me? I see that it allows for OTA updates.
I am currently rooted via Superuser (by clockworkmod).
When you say I'll need to install 4.2.2 by flashing, you mean through Flashtool, right? Which build should I get (and where, one of the development forums)?
Is the reason why one is advised to install custom roms via recovery mode in order to maintain root access (which I'm assuming doesn't happen if you flash through Flashtool)?
Something I forgot to mention earlier is that I did unlock the bootloader. I'm not sure if that helps or hinders me at this point.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer all my questions. I really love this new toy, and I'm so terrified of bricking it.
Cat McGowan said:
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
UberBaumer said:
If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
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Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
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Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
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Thank you again my friend.
Is there a list of apps that are safe to uninstall, or, rather, a list of apps that I shouldn't tinker with (for fear of uninstalling an app that has a dependency on something critical)?
Also, I'm on the Google Play store and I see both Titanium Backup Pro and Rom Toolbox Pro. Should I buy both? If you had to buy just one, which would it be?
My main goal is to just make the smoothest experience possible. I want to take maximum advantage of the hardware in the tablet and have as few unnecessary programs running as possible.

[Tutorial] How to Root the G850A (AT&T Galaxy Alpha)

Huge thanks to vadosnake for discovering this !
It's been a wait of 2 years, and King root has finally achieved root on this device. This method was tested on the Lollipop firmware, and others have said it works on KitKat as well. To root the G850A, follow these steps:
1.) Download the two APKs provided below, which we'll need for later
2.) Enable Unknown Sources by going to Settings, then Security, and the option should be right there
3.) Now install KingRoot 4.81. A message will pop up saying that the app is malicious, but just click "Install Anyway"
4.) Now enter the King root app and click Root. The phone will reboot, but that is normal. Go back into the app again and the process should continue until it's complete. Voila, your phone is now rooted. However, we will be replacing KingRoot with SuperSU.
5.) Install the second APK called SuperSume. After it's done, click the big green button, give it root access, and it will replace KingRoot with SuperSU in 1 minute.
6.) Go into the Play Store and update SuperSU. After it's done updating, go into the app and it will pop up with a message saying to update the binaries. Click continue then "Normal". DO NOT CLICK TWRP/CWM, OR IT WILL SOFTBRICK YOUR DEVICE.
7.) After that., you're done. You now have root with SuperSU.
Please make sure to show this to AT&T Galaxy Alpha users. Especially developers, so we can get some roms
Did anyone try this? Why does King Root need internet access to root? I'm afraid to turn on the internet in case it tries to steal data.
PopTartKing said:
Huge thanks to vadosnake for discovering this !
It's been a wait of 2 years, and King root has finally achieved root on this device. This method was tested on the Lollipop firmware, and others have said it works on KitKat as well. To root the G850A, follow these steps:
1.) Download the two APKs provided below, which we'll need for later
2.) Enable Unknown Sources by going to Settings, then Security, and the option should be right there
3.) Now install KingRoot 4.81. A message will pop up saying that the app is malicious, but just click "Install Anyway"
4.) Now enter the King root app and click Root. The phone will reboot, but that is normal. Go back into the app again and the process should continue until it's complete. Voila, your phone is now rooted. However, we will be replacing KingRoot with SuperSU.
5.) Install the second APK called SuperSume. After it's done, click the big green button, give it root access, and it will replace KingRoot with SuperSU in 1 minute.
6.) Go into the Play Store and update SuperSU. After it's done updating, go into the app and it will pop up with a message saying to update the binaries. Click continue then "Normal". DO NOT CLICK TWRP/CWM, OR IT WILL SOFTBRICK YOUR DEVICE.
7.) After that., you're done. You now have root with SuperSU.
Please make sure to show this to AT&T Galaxy Alpha users. Especially developers, so we can get some roms
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cqdiep said:
Did anyone try this? Why does King Root need internet access to root? I'm afraid to turn on the internet in case it tries to steal data.
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It needs Internet access to search in their database for a root solution.
I got SuperSU to install, but it can't update the binaries. It says "Installation failed! Please reboot and try again." after trying to update the binaries. The Root Checker app did confirm that it was rooted.
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It needs Internet access to search in their database for a root solution.
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I got SuperSU to install, but it can't update the binaries. It says "Installation failed! Please reboot and try again." after trying to update the binaries. The Root Checker app did confirm that it was rooted.
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For now, I tend to leave the app closed, and just wait until root prompts appear for root apps
Yeah, I'm doing that too.
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For now, I tend to leave the app closed, and just wait until root prompts appear for root apps
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No Luck
I just ran the included 4.8.1 and online 5.0.1 versions, neither worked. So I tried the 4.8.1 a few times (including restarts) and the Super-SuMe anyway, but it didn't do anything past "Preparing environment" for 20 minutes.
Additional note, the 4.8.1 seems to have problems in general. After trying to root and failing, it'll continue using 80% of my cpu on some other processes within it's directory (mostly Schrodinger).
I'm running Android 5.0.2 (G850AUCU1BOC7), Kernel 3.4.0-4486597, Build LRX22G. It's the last update ATT gave us.
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I just ran the included 4.8.1 and online 5.0.1 versions, neither worked. So I tried the 4.8.1 a few times (including restarts) and the Super-SuMe anyway, but it didn't do anything past "Preparing environment" for 20 minutes.
Additional note, the 4.8.1 seems to have problems in general. After trying to root and failing, it'll continue using 80% of my cpu on some other processes within it's directory (mostly Schrodinger).
I'm running Android 5.0.2 (G850AUCU1BOC7), Kernel 3.4.0-4486597, Build LRX22G. It's the last update ATT gave us.
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Same, tried both 4.8.1 and 5.0.1, neither worked. Same android and baseband version as yours.
Thanks so much for this. I'm curious exactly which version of Lollipop on the g850a this was tested and working on? Was it specifically 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 something like that? I just want to make sure I can follow it exactly so it works.
Root access was lost after a couple of days. I'm on 4.4.4.
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Yeah, I'm doing that too.
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Well this is strange, I followed this exact tutorial about 1 month ago and everything worked fine, now the app just freezes and after 5 minutes gives off a "Root Fail" message. I'm still running v4.8.1 on the app and still running on the KitKat firmware. This makes no sense at all.
Edit: The phone is no longer supported by Kingroot
Hey guys, sorry for not replying, my internet has been down for the past two weeks . It seems that everyone is having problems keeping root after a while. I might not be a developer, but here's my advice: Once root is obtained, do what you want to do (ie. change emojis or install ViperAudio), then don't touch the SuperSU app until some more skilled developers put this root to full use . I'm sorry for not being more useful, but I just want everyone to know that this device isn't dead. What we need right now is something like SafeStrap for some some-what custom roms.
Any one having issue getting this to work?
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Hey guys, sorry for not replying, my internet has been down for the past two weeks . It seems that everyone is having problems keeping root after a while. I might not be a developer, but here's my advice: Once root is obtained, do what you want to do (ie. change emojis or install ViperAudio), then don't touch the SuperSU app until some more skilled developers put this root to full use . I'm sorry for not being more useful, but I just want everyone to know that this device isn't dead. What we need right now is something like SafeStrap for some some-what custom roms.
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Yeah, Kingroot pulled support from it after people started using supersu-me to get supersu on their devices instead of kingroot. Well, to me, it sounds like a jealousy problem on Kingroots end. It's not like everyone is buying the pro version of the app. Their main source of money is ad revenue. They also pulled support from the Galaxy S5 and many other devices mainly because of people using supersu-me. Kingroot has got to get the stick that is in it's butt right now out ASAP. A 'friend' of mine literally sold his S5 because it couldn't be rooted anymore, and i'm thinking about selling my G850A because it can't be rooted anymore.
Just to clarify this, there's absolutely no way on the internet that the G850A can be rooted, ever?
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Just to clarify this, there's absolutely no way on the internet that the G850A can be rooted, ever?
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Not anymore. It only had root for like 1 month then Kingroot removed support, you can blame them. Unless someone is exploit something so we can have root back, there is no way to root this phone anymore. I know, it sucks, just like the Kingroot developers, but that's just life.
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Root access was lost after a couple of days. I'm on 4.4.4.
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Hi
Im doing that and 100% complete but i check root by root check not request from super user
Solution found!
Hi guys. I think I found the trick. Just disable Internet connection (Mobile data and WiFi) just before lunching kingroot app this would evade the app from "searching the best root solution" which is "nothing found".
I used the exact same files uploaded in the OP and it works great, including the supersume part.
Good luck.
I'm very lucky to root my device. waited One year and 4 months and got the fruit of patience. Now I love my device. I have patched Tethering Provision. Now I can easily open hotspot.. no need of foxfi etc... ? Congratulations to those who got there device ROOOOTED.. ?
babarjoya said:
I'm very lucky to root my device. waited One year and 4 months and got the fruit of patience. Now I love my device. I have patched Tethering Provision. Now I can easily open hotspot.. no need of foxfi etc... Congratulations to those who got there device ROOOOTED..
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Salam. Babar bhai hamen bhi bata den k kaise root kar lia ap ne. please

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