I don't know if i've posted this in the right section, but at times on and off i've thought about doing rom development. When I had a Nexus S 4G I made the attempt of being the first to compile ICS from source for that phone. This phone needs roms, I also can't afford to switch phones. I don't know alot about development, but where could I start so I can begin to learn how to build roms? How difficult would it be to get a rom compiled for this phone that'll boot, being that it has a locked bootloader? If someone can help me so I can at least try to do some type of development for this device. I have to flash some type of custom rom on this phone, lol.
imo the best is a port of cyanogenmod with sources of phones similar to optimus l9 and for sure versions like 4.1 ++
this version of android excisting in optimus l9 ics is working fine. it would be nice porting of newer versions.
Finally someone...first.
Juanito216 said:
I don't know if i've posted this in the right section, but at times on and off i've thought about doing rom development. When I had a Nexus S 4G I made the attempt of being the first to compile ICS from source for that phone. This phone needs roms, I also can't afford to switch phones. I don't know alot about development, but where could I start so I can begin to learn how to build roms? How difficult would it be to get a rom compiled for this phone that'll boot? Being that it has a locked bootloader? If someone can help me so I can at least try to do some type of development for this device. I have to flash some type of custom rom on this phone, lol.
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Glad and happy to see someone (first one) a developer is willing to work on Source Codes. May be for you only I did collected all the resources.
Source Codes here,
Unrooted Stock Roms here,
Flashing and Rooting here and
Rooted CWM Backups here.
See already collected so much of information so some developer will start working. Did this because the LG links were rapidly dying and still are.
I am not developer, but I will be happy to become a tester for you and would like to try to help you in any way you may want. Happy Developing, BIG THANKS and Best of luck.
I'll start after I get a new ethernet cable for my computer, Ubuntu doesn't work well with my wifi usb adapter. Works fine in Windows and was working ok in Linux Mint, abeit kinda slow. I may have to ask someone for help or for guidance, but i'll try to do something. Better than complaining about no roms but not doing anything to help bring one. I don't know how difficult it would be but I was thinking about building JB from source for this phone?
Hi men! i'm working for make ics (cm9) and jellybean (cm10.1) working on p760! here are the source https://github.com/lgics/android_device_lge_p760
i'm using bootstrap method!
markolino631 said:
Hi men! i'm working for make ics (cm9) and jellybean (cm10.1) working on p760! here are the source https://github.com/lgics/android_device_lge_p760
i'm using bootstrap method!
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Could I use that to make something for P769?
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R: [Q] Thinking About Rom Development..
yes!
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Thanks a lot Juanito216 and markolino631, if pals like you come together and share ideas, it will help a community for sure. Best of Luck
If you need any help in any resources or testing, I am here. I am not developer, but better than just a user.
markolino631 said:
Hi men! i'm working for make ics (cm9) and jellybean (cm10.1) working on p760! here are the source https://github.com/lgics/android_device_lge_p760
i'm using bootstrap method!
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i think this is just wat i need to get a lil somethin goin........atleast i hope
Hey guys, I haven't forgot. I still don't have any ethernet cable, but my sister let me install Ubuntu dual boot on her laptop. I installed it tonight and using it now so i'm going to set other things up tonight.
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hello all the folks out here,i want to make a rom for i5500
anyone still here?
since i dont have this phone,i will need testers
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hello all the folks out here,i want to make a rom for i5500
anyone still here?
since i dont have this phone,i will need testers
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It's almost impossible to create a ROM for a phone without having it.I can't help you with testing beacuse I use my phone daily for calls,messaging and other standard activities.Instead of this I cand help you with development.So what you want to start with?
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It's almost impossible to create a ROM for a phone without having it.I can't help you with testing beacuse I use my phone daily for calls,messaging and other standard activities.Instead of this I cand help you with development.So what you want to start with?
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an overclockable kernel and a basic rom to start with
PS:i have created roms for phones i dont have,thanks to willingness of testers
OK then, I'm willing to give it a try, the only thing I won't be able to test easily is GSM data and 3G, only because I have a PAYG sim in it with no data plan, but can always swap sims with my SGS to test those bits
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an overclockable kernel and a basic rom to start with
PS:i have created roms for phones i dont have,thanks to willingness of testers
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What you say about the cyanogenmod kernel?It's overclockable and a basic ROM could be Froyo , but there is a problem cuz I have Windows XP and I can't extract a .tar file to have the base files.
Virtualbox linux...
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Assistance in testing the ROM
I've been using Samsung Galaxy 5 for quite some time now. And also I've tried out a lot of ROMs. Currently I'm using CM7. It would be really great to test the ROM you're developing.
I would be able to test almost every aspect of it including 3g.
Will it based on ics?
Will it *be based on ics?
Hi,
This rom looks a beast and has already been ported to the Xperia Play, Xperia Arc and the X8
Can anyone help or give guidance in getting this great rom ported to the Xperia S
My skills are very limited however with guidance I am willing to attempt it and give it a go but i need help and guidance from someone who knows a lot more about it than me
Is there anyone willing to help get this rom ported over to us on the Xperia S ?
Hi. For porting you need to select a device that is similar to the XS at least resolution wise. Your base rom would be latest CM9 or CM10. Delete the app and framework folder one by one and replace it with the folders from the PA rom. Similarly replace the bootanimation.zip in system/media. Change fields in the build.prop as they are going in the PA Rom'.
Make a zip and try flashing. If it works your luck is good but if it bootloops you need to make changes in the frameworkres.apk which requires decompiling it and stuff. I'm still learning how to do the framework part.
Tapatalked !!
So the Rom from the nexus?
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Would need to use latest cm9 as base as it is stable and has more working than cm10
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Can we not use a Rom kitchen to port this Rom over?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625862
found this link, would this work ?
Use latest FXP as the base rom for our device ? really really want to give this ago but I need someone who knows more than to guide me
Use the latest FXP. nexus will do
Tapatalked !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
got this guide going to try and port it this weekend
going to have to use cm9 version of paranoid android so camera works so thinking HD2 ?
If you want to do anything that's maintainable, build from source.
Building from source is a hell of a job and afaik this method will work for all the future updates and is tad easier than building from source
Tapatalked !!
I dont have the ability to build from source
Could look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27602914&postcount=24 I tried it with ICS, never booted.
I don't have any ability whatsoever, but I can be a tester (make sure kernel is easy to work with dual boot) and, if needed, I can give a little of my pc processing (not much).
"I got my values. So you can keep yours, OK?"
How about a paranoid android bounty thread?
Pledge donations so some developer with skill might take it on?
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This is a discussion and information thread for the progress of stock based rom development.
I want to keep you up to date for the current development progress and invite you to join or discuss about new projects.
First I want to introduce to you the people who are involved in this current project.
Hashcode (STS-Dev-Team)
Deveshmanish
Ravikirancg
alteredlikeness
Biotik
Each one here is working on its own projects, but we are statically in contact to help out each other, so this has some kind of a team character. But this is NOT something like a "closed team"! Everybody, every dev and everyone who wants is invited to be part of this new fast progressing kind of development for Roms, Kernels and all other Android stuff. I think we should not longer stay alone with our stuff because we can reach our goals much faster when working together - or at least being in contact and share our knowledge!
In example the last weeks have been full of success regarding to Kexec-, Kernel- and Stock-based development - with the big help of the people mentioned above!
Current Progress​
Yesterday we made it to boot Catalyst Rom (VZW .16 - based) on my GSM device with full working service - with the first stock Kexec kernel! This opens many new possibilities and brings our good old Razr on a new level - AGAIN!
Now we have a working kexec setup for stock based roms and I made a GSM- and a CDMA-Patch, so all users - no matter what region their devices are from - can run all stock-based rom - also no matter which stock kernel they have installed on their devices!
First, I will release a "Kexec-Patch" which can be flashed over ANY Stock-based rom to boot it on ANY device - including the needed network patches! The kernel has been finished and I will release it tonight. Note that this kernel is not modified in a way like JBX-Kernel! It is a copy of stock kernel which was made ready for kexec by the STS-Dev-Team!
Next, we make a Custom-Kernel for stock-based roms with mods like JBX-Kernel! The first Rom to run with it will be Catalyst v3!
We don't want to keep our work only for our projects - everyone should have access to it! Each dev should be able to use it for his work! It's free and open source - and it should behandled like this!
Devs are invited to join our group hangouts on Google Plus! Together we will make fast progress in all kind of development! PM me for access!
I will keep you up to date in this thread!
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Excellent news! I was wondering, when you said full working service, did that happen to include 1080p video and HDMI? I know the other kexec Roms have these issues.
Regardless of my question, truly amazing work.
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jessel0001 said:
Excellent news! I was wondering, when you said full working service, did that happen to include 1080p video and HDMI? I know the other kexec Roms have these issues.
Regardless of my question, truly amazing work.
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On kexec stock the camera seems working fully, yes. But service meant to be Networks.
so... in near future with the "new" kexec + f.e. cm 10.1 and we have everything working ?? or it will only fully work with 4.1.2 firmware... ??
Great ideea !
Thank you
The camera only works fine for Stock based roms because it uses the original cam libs. But we cannot use the cam libs on AOSP roms! Tghe cam drivers are partly closed source, that's what makes it difficult. But Hashcode is working on that.
Edit: Just released the patches, see dev section.
Ok new guy here.... What the he!! is the difference in kexec and catalyst can someone explain all this to me easily?? Im coming from a gnexus and have know idea what this really means. I gather it a good thing for all of us but it's all very confusing to me still. So for being the noob!!!!
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So if I flash the Patch on CM 10.1 or AOKP, the camera will not recording in Full HD?
justen7723 said:
Ok new guy here.... What the he!! is the difference in kexec and catalyst can someone explain all this to me easily?? Im coming from a gnexus and have know idea what this really means. I gather it a good thing for all of us but it's all very confusing to me still. So for being the noob!!!!
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Kexec is a method to bypass our Razr's locked bootloader and run Custom Kernels.
The main problem with the locked bootloader is that we cannot reun custom kernels - usually. And also we cannot use any stock kernel - i.e. when a GSM user wants to use a stock-based CDMA Custom rom he used to wipe the CID (region check) to be able to flash the CDMA kernel which is needed to run this. But thanks to the secure version which are being checked by bootloader users who have updated to Moto official JB cannot flash the VZW kernel anymore - so they cannot use the CDMA roms!
Now we have KExec! This allows us to run any rom on a custom kernel! The metnioned problems are history now.
But besides of that it allows us to run JB AOSP Roms on Custom Kernels - just like my JBX-Kernel.
You are coming from G-Nex? Well, you might know how many kernels are available for G-Nex - and what nice features they provide (OC, GPU OC, BLX, BLN, etc, etc..). My JBX-Kernel provides a lot of these features to the Razr owners All that wouldn't be possible without kexec.
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So if I flash the Patch on CM 10.1 or AOKP, the camera will not recording in Full HD?
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NO! And I explained the reason already. PLEASE FORGET THAT VERY FAST!
And about the battery consumption? After flashed the patch, the battery life will be bad like CM 10.1 and AOKP?
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And about the battery consumption? After flashed the patch, the battery life will be bad like CM 10.1 and AOKP?
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Nope, it will be like stock.
I need someones help! I have to rebuild the moto_crypto module to make the JBX-Stock-Kernel working on VZW-Based Roms!
But I am not really aware of shell script language. Could someone please tell me how to link the Makefile(s), etc to connect this module source to the kernel source?
Or at least read the build script you find in the linked source and tell me what exactly is set there (I understand most parts - but not enough)
https://github.com/dtrail/kernel_mapphone_kexec/tree/stock-mod/motorola/security/moto_crypto
Ediot: Nevermind, got it.
Question, using Motorola stock kernel is better than a custom one right? I know it may be stepping your heart dtrail, I experience certain reboot a day due to dos, so in order to get boot again, I will have to flash your kernel again. It is quite annoying indeed. Such problem does not exist in stock rom. You know, I choose Motorola because I trust in its built quality, I trust in its stability.
Apart from that, the new progress mentioned here means we can use Motorola kernel to run any aosp rom, am I figure out in the right track?
Thank you so much!
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Question, using Motorola stock kernel is better than a custom one right? I know it may be stepping your heart dtrail, I experience certain reboot a day due to dos, so in order to get boot again, I will have to flash your kernel again. It is quite annoying indeed. Such problem does not exist in stock rom. You know, I choose Motorola because I trust in its built quality, I trust in its stability.
Apart from that, the new progress mentioned here means we can use Motorola kernel to run any aosp rom, am I figure out in the right track?
Thank you so much!
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You misunderstood. Please read the OP more carefully - I explained that question several times now (regarding to the benefits of the current kernel)
To your problem: I don't have that problem. My phone runs multiple days (until 1 week) without any problems (and not a single reboot). And for me the custom kernel is much better than stock because I get better battery life, performance and options. Many users reported the same in the kernel thread. So yours must be a device related or usage related problem.
I don't know your settings, so I cannot help you with that. You can do tjat: Make screenshots from all Trickster Mod pages that I can see your settings.
Although I'm using a Razr XT912,I'm so glad seeing all these development goin' so fast. Thanks a lot,dtrail1. You've been doing a great job for XT910 users especially this Razr community in general. I've been in love with your JBX kernel.
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Little update
Currently fixing 4.3 JBX. This could take some more time than thought before..But it will work, that's the most important thing now.
The Stock Core Kernel which is a direct JBX port for Stock based roms is almost finished! I will launch a testing phase this week.
MIUI is kind of special - who knows ? Actually I can boot and run the Stock Core kernel with it but the UI is kind of slow. The log is telling me nothing so I have to dig deeper.
But because I am working on all of these projects on my own it will take time. Be patient and stay tuned!
Besides of the Kernel(s) I am working together with Biotik on Catalyst Project and also currently merging STS-Dev-Team's progress on the completely rebuilt 3.0.31 and 3.0.88 Kernel....Great things are coming, yes! But I have to be on my own - Seems like that!
I am still waiting for someone's contribution into my projects - but also loosing hope slowly...
Thanks man
Is it possible to download it yet?
Someone please make CyanogenMod for Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus GT-S7580. I and other guys who owns that device would be very happy about it. If someone does that post the recovery install package here and post it to cyanogen mod so they add it to the easy installer. I want CWM recovery for my device too but its not so important.
aleksi kuuramaa said:
Someone please make CyanogenMod for Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus GT-S7580. I and other guys who owns that device would be very happy about it. If someone does that post the recovery install package here and post it to cyanogen mod so they add it to the easy installer. I want CWM recovery for my device too but its not so important.
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Hi! I could get an CWM recovery with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621087
thanks for the cwm
gonna try that i think it works but the cmod is the most important to me
cwm works fine
i tried the cwm and works fine but if the cyanogen mod is for my device post a link so i can get it
All should post here to add support for trend plus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49806727 . Goodluck
Too much pages getting it for this device will take very long time
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Somebody please do it i dont care anymore how i install it can be md5 gz zip or something
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aleksi kuuramaa said:
Somebody please do it i dont care anymore how i install it can be md5 gz zip or something
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The only way you will have an cm, I tried diffrent version and no one worked. Do u have an big sdcard? If so, go to the cwm and backup your rom. put it on a zip and send to the cyanogen mod crew, so they can port it.
My sd card is very small but i know someone knows how to make and mod roms because i know a little bit how it works but not much
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Please try mod the kernel and everything what is needed someone can do it i know it try make it for this device
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Can i get it with modding my phone rom or doing something to my phone (buying new is not an option for me)
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I can port cm if someone can make the kernel compatible with cm we will have a custom ROM. It's easier to do then most of u think.
UPDATE: I will do needed edits in our stock kernel to get it to boot into cm10.2. However we will still need a proper kernel compiled to have it fully working. Doing it this way will break some functions but I will do my very best to fix bugs. I will get it to the stage of making calls SMS and data working then I will pass the ROM on to other developers to take over. That's best I can offer. Thanks
If you know any kernel developers please get them to PM me thanks
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I can port cm if someone can make the kernel compatible with cm we will have a custom ROM. It's easier to do then most of u think.
UPDATE: I will do needed edits in our stock kernel to get it to boot into cm10.2. However we will still need a proper kernel compiled to have it fully working. Doing it this way will break some functions but I will do my very best to fix bugs. I will get it to the stage of making calls SMS and data working then I will pass the ROM on to other developers to take over. That's best I can offer. Thanks
If you know any kernel developers please get them to PM me thanks
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Hey mate, I've just got a Galaxy Trend Plus (GT-S7580) and I started to look for some custom ROMs, but I can't find much about it, do you know something about any development progress with custom ROMs for this device?
Thanks in advance!
MantisEngine said:
Hey mate, I've just got a Galaxy Trend Plus (GT-S7580) and I started to look for some custom ROMs, but I can't find much about it, do you know something about any development progress with custom ROMs for this device?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm also interested in some CM ROM for this phone. Unfortunately it looks like no custom ROM is available yet. I'm afraid I have to learn how to create one
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Is there anybody who can port CM for this phone? I would very appreciate it. I own this phone so if there is someone willing to do this I am ready to help him if he will need something from the phone - files, etc. ( I do not actually know what is needed for porting the ROM.)
WE WANT CyanogenMod FOR Galaxy Trend Plus GT-S7580L
Yes me too
I have a samsung galaxy trend plus and i want a CM for it :angel:
I have the knowlegde of porting roms but it really won't be easy..
I can start porting it after 2weeks (im at vacation now) and trust me guys i really going to start with it will also take alot of time because its very hard and im also busy with projects for the Trend and Galaxy fame
fastfix2013 said:
I can port cm if someone can make the kernel compatible with cm we will have a custom ROM. It's easier to do then most of u think.
UPDATE: I will do needed edits in our stock kernel to get it to boot into cm10.2. However we will still need a proper kernel compiled to have it fully working. Doing it this way will break some functions but I will do my very best to fix bugs. I will get it to the stage of making calls SMS and data working then I will pass the ROM on to other developers to take over. That's best I can offer. Thanks
If you know any kernel developers please get them to PM me thanks
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Unfortionally its not so easy
We must build from scratch without any compatible sources..
I have some friends ( @SeannyM @wulsic) who also ported cm to their device without any sources so i can ask their help when i start with it.
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Hi guys,I saw in that the Xperia U which has 90% the same hardware as our Xperia Go has already AOKP 4.4 Nightlies,so I decided to make a port for our lovely Xperia Go.I succesfully booted the ROM but I have forgot to include some essential drivers/libs for camera so I remade the ROM but I did another stupid mistake so it doesn't boot again and I need to make it again .But there is no problem as it doesn't take much time so I think until tommorow I will have given you the first screenshots.So I made this thread so we can discusse some non-development related things.Because I am new to Android Development and XDA ROM posting (I have been using XDA as ROM finder since a long time) I think you could direct me correctly.
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Hi guys,I saw in that the Xperia U which has 90% the same hardware as our Xperia Go has already AOKP 4.4 Nightlies,so I decided to make a port for our lovely Xperia Go.I succesfully booted the ROM but I have forgot to include some essential drivers/libs for camera so I remade the ROM but I did another stupid mistake so it doesn't boot again and I need to make it again .But there is no problem as it doesn't take much time so I think until tommorow I will have given you the first screenshots.So I made this thread so we can discusse some non-development related things.Because I am new to Android Development and XDA ROM posting (I have been using XDA as ROM finder since a long time) I think you could direct me correctly.
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remember before posting to ask permission to xu maintainer, @Abhinav2
DroidModderXtreme said:
remember before posting to ask permission to xu maintainer, @Abhinav2
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Ok,I am going to ask right now.
TechBossGR said:
Hi guys,I saw in that the Xperia U which has 90% the same hardware as our Xperia Go has already AOKP 4.4 Nightlies,so I decided to make a port for our lovely Xperia Go.I succesfully booted the ROM but I have forgot to include some essential drivers/libs for camera so I remade the ROM but I did another stupid mistake so it doesn't boot again and I need to make it again .But there is no problem as it doesn't take much time so I think until tommorow I will have given you the first screenshots.So I made this thread so we can discusse some non-development related things.Because I am new to Android Development and XDA ROM posting (I have been using XDA as ROM finder since a long time) I think you could direct me correctly.
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It is best to compile aokp from source rather than porting it (more performance). But ported rom is also quite okay
@TechBossGR feel free to port it but as @wan5xp said, source built is better. I can help you(or anyone building) for building from source
Cheers,
AJ
Abhinav2 said:
@TechBossGR feel free to port it but as @wan5xp said, source built is better. I can help you(or anyone building) for building from source
Cheers,
AJ
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@Abhinav2 Thanks for the permission!Unfortunately I don't have a powerful computer (Intel C2D 2.5Ghz,3GB,200GB is my rig) and I don't have enough time to learn about it!But thanks for your willing to help me (or anyone else).It would be helped me if you could give me a link which explain some things like DeviceTree and others.Now,for the ROM I'm really sorry but I didn't have enough time to finish the ROM so I will probably finish it at the weekend.How much difference will have a ported ROM from a ROM which was built from source?
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@Abhinav2 Thanks for the permission!Unfortunately I don't have a powerful computer (Intel C2D 2.5Ghz,3GB,200GB is my rig) and I don't have enough time to learn about it!But thanks for your willing to help me (or anyone else).It would be helped me if you could give me a link which explain some things like DeviceTree and others.Now,for the ROM I'm really sorry but I didn't have enough time to finish the ROM so I will probably finish it at the weekend.How much difference will have a ported ROM from a ROM which was built from source?
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Don't worry. My laptop is almost the same as your rig, only with 2gb of ram. I am also a beginner. With abhinav2 help, i'm sure you can do it. Ported rom sometime have stability issue
wan5xp said:
Don't worry. My laptop is almost the same as your rig, only with 2gb of ram. I am also a beginner. With abhinav2 help, i'm sure you can do it. Ported rom sometime have stability issue
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Yeah but I'm afraid that compiling will take a lot of hours and I don't have so much time to spend there.Also I don't want to make things without understanding what I am doing,I want to know what and why I am doing.That's why I'm asking for a place which explains the basic things for Android building like DeviceTree and other essential things.
I am here again guys and I'm sorry for don't inform you about the ROM.In fact,I was waiting for a new CM11 build so my AOKP port would have less bugs but unfortunately no new CM11 build came out .Does anyone know when or if CM11 will be updated (by Rodger_Rulez)?
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I am here again guys and I'm sorry for don't inform you about the ROM.In fact,I was waiting for a new CM11 build so my AOKP port would have less bugs but unfortunately no new CM11 build came out .Does anyone know when or if CM11 will be updated (by Rodger_Rulez)?
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Freack updates for sola first. He will update our device later
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Ok then,I will wait for the update!