Rooting Official Stock ICS Without Wiping Data? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone happen to know if there will likely be a method of rooting a stock ICS OTA install without wiping data? I never got around to rooting GB on the Thunderbolt but would like to do so on ICS.

Not yet. I think the revolutionary unlock method can be done without wipin data but there is a new locked hboot and they are working to make an exploit.
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mfucci said:
Does anyone happen to know if there will likely be a method of rooting a stock ICS OTA install without wiping data? I never got around to rooting GB on the Thunderbolt but would like to do so on ICS.
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Doubtful.

trter10 said:
Doubtful.
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Is that due to the overall lack of developer support due to the device's age or for some other reason?

mfucci said:
Is that due to the overall lack of developer support due to the device's age or for some other reason?
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Yes, as far as i know no develeoper is interested in getting s-off and i do not have the skill.

disconnecktie said:
Not yet. I think the revolutionary unlock method can be done without wipin data but there is a new locked hboot and they are working to make an exploit.
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And to add.... and the last rom Revolutionary tool could root and patch hboot with was 2.11.605.5. It didn't work with 2.11.605.9 or 2.11.605.19.

KidJoe said:
And to add.... and the last rom Revolutionary tool could root and patch hboot with was 2.11.605.5. It didn't work with 2.11.605.9 or 2.11.605.19.
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That is because there was no interest in finding an exploit for those since a downgrade to 605.5 was possible took run the exploit. Maybe if downgrade was possible with the new ota the old revolutionary method could be used.
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disconnecktie said:
That is because there was no interest in finding an exploit for those since a downgrade to 605.5 was possible took run the exploit. Maybe if downgrade was possible with the new ota the old revolutionary method could be used.
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That is the unknown. Can you downgrade from the ICS OTA to the older version? How dangerous is that for someone to test?

KidJoe said:
That is the unknown. Can you downgrade from the ICS OTA to the older version? How dangerous is that for someone to test?
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It's possible that you could brick from doing it.
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disconnecktie said:
It's possible that you could brick from doing it.
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You will brick. The radios are too new

trter10 said:
You will brick. The radios are too new
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I figured as much.
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Replacement Rezound.. Ubdate firmware before ICS?

Just got a replacement rezound. Do i need to update firmware or can i just flash an ICS ROM?
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Update firmware. They still come loaded with gb
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doesn't need to be updated, just remember to flash an old firmware patch before you boot.
GB ruu it. While they may not notice if it has ics or gb, you're better off being safe than sorry.
1heffer said:
GB ruu it. While they may not notice if it has ics or gb, you're better off being safe than sorry.
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He's not taking it in for replacement, he already has a replacement .
Oldsteel68 said:
Just got a replacement rezound. Do i need to update firmware or can i just flash an ICS ROM?
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You don't 'need' to do anything. However, if it is just out of the box I would recommend this : http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13780-STEPS-TO-ICS-FIRMWARE-UNLOCK-ROOT-and-S-OFF
The tutorial takes through update of the firmware to unlocking/root to s-off and then whatever you desire after. :good:
At the minimum, I would update the firmware by running the RUU, and then unlocking. Don't unlock first because you'll just have to relock to run the RUU!
As a previous poster commented, you don't have to update the firmware, but I bet you will eventually so get er done now.
There are other tutorials/"all in ones" out there so look and read around.
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He's not taking it in for replacement, he already has a replacement .
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Haha, i see what i did there. :banghead:
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1heffer said:
Haha, i see what i did there. :banghead:
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FWIW, just activated a warranty replacement yesterday. My specific steps were:
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Flash Amon Ra and do nandroid.
3. Flash 3.14.605.10 firmware & ICS leak from bootloader as PH98IMH.ZIP.
4. Run Juopunut's S-OFF
5. Reflash Amon Ra
6. Flash my ROM (see sig).
I also flash Titanium as a zip, and use App2zip. Not everything works when I do things that way, but it takes me most of the way home.
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How to unroot?

How do you unroot the HTC EVO 4g LTE?
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sully9292 said:
How do you unroot the HTC EVO 4g LTE?
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You are probably using SuperSu as the superuser app. You can go into settings of that app and select permanent unroot.
You can then lock up you bootloader by opening a command prompt and going to your adb and using fast boot commands you can type fastboot OEM lock you can then proceed to download the latest ruu 2.13 just search the on here for it and run that with your phone still connected to your computer.
If your soff you can just run the ruu or install a stock ROM via recovery.
Multiple ways to do it just depends on a lot of variables like what ROM your on, s-off or s-on, what hboot your on 1.12 or 1.15, if you just want root gone or you also what to dump custom recovery as well and if you want it completely stock like it just came out of the box.
Let us know some more info and someone will help out
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It depends how you rooted it.
Its different each way.
brandonmaze said:
You are probably using SuperSu as the superuser app. You can go into settings of that app and select permanent unroot.
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Theres no need to undo the superuser app. Any unroot method is going to install the unrooted ROM
Rxpert said:
It depends how you rooted it.
Its different each way.
Theres no need to undo the superuser app. Any unroot method is going to install the unrooted ROM
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True, but still a way to unroot.
If he just wants to unroot that's the quickest way to do it and probably the easiest.
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brandonmaze said:
True, but still a way to unroot.
If he just wants to unroot that's the quickest way to do it and probably the easiest.
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You are right. That's not what most people want when they go to unroot though. H-boot will still be unlocked/S-OFF and the phone will probably still have a custom recovery (depending on root method)
So get back to us OP
Rxpert said:
You are right. That's not what most people want when they go to unroot though. H-boot will still be unlocked/S-OFF and the phone will probably still have a custom recovery (depending on root method)
So get back to us OP
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Yeah I know. I was being a Lil **** with that reply.
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I want my phone to be just like fresh out of the box. And I have s-on.
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I too would like to know about this, fresh out of the box.
In that case, relock bootloader as per the instructions above, and then run the appropriate RUU for your firmware version.
SoraX64 said:
In that case, relock bootloader as per the instructions above, and then run the appropriate RUU for your firmware version.
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If S-OFF it requires you to run the S-ON tool as well.
Its really a different process for each root method available
Which Rom should I use to unroot?
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I mean do I need to put a Stock Rom on before I unroot?
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No, and you never told us how you rooted. So we can't give you the directions you need
Rxpert said:
No, and you never told us how you rooted. So we can't give you the directions you need
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Oh sorry, I rooted with htcdev not with regaw mod cause I had problems with the mod but I rooted my phone manually.
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sully9292 said:
Oh sorry, I rooted with htcdev not with regaw mod cause I had problems with the mod but I rooted my phone manually.
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You'll need to re-lock the phone and then run the RUU then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yS7yy4XVA4
RUU:
http://stockroms.net/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/RUU
For h-boot 1.15 you'll need the 1.22 RUU
You run it from your computer.

[Q] S-OFF with HBOOT 1.08.0000

When I saw the news for the HTC Thunderbolt ICS update finaly out I got so excited, I returned my phone to stock, ran the update, and was happy... not thinking "what if they update the HBOOT"...well THEY DID. Stupid me for not waiting one more day for the rooted release! So now Im unable to acheive S-OFF as my HBOOT is now 1.08.0000.
Perhaps its too soon to be asking this, but is there a way to S-OFF the new HBOOT?
Nope you're Sol until an exploit is found. Oh and there is an if there too because I don't know how much interest there will be in finding an exploit for an old device.
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disconnecktie said:
Nope you're Sol until an exploit is found. Oh and there is an if there too because I don't know how much interest there will be in finding an exploit for an old device.
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Well if anything came out of this, we now know for certain the results of accepting the update and hopefully warn others. I have to take this phone into best buy for repairs, and seeing as I already did this once and they just gave me a (defective) refurbished model, they most likely will do it again.
HBroot off
I have been able to get S-off via HTCdev after I requested the code to unlock the bootloader. I am stuck now with root and I would love to know if somebody knows how to push the root onto the ICS stock rom?
hunterintustin said:
I have been able to get S-off via HTCdev after I requested the code to unlock the bootloader. I am stuck now with root and I would love to know if somebody knows how to push the root onto the ICS stock rom?
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That can't be done. If you're s off flash the ics radios in Santods post in the developer section and then flash the ics rom.
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disconnecktie said:
That can't be done. If you're s off flash the ics radios in Santods post in the developer section and then flash the ics rom.
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I've tried it and it will not stick. Not sure why but I wish I had waited for the rooted rom before going back to stock and getting the OTA update.
hunterintustin said:
I've tried it and it will not stick. Not sure why but I wish I had waited for the rooted rom before going back to stock and getting the OTA update.
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You and several others wish the same thing. I tried to warn people but word didn't get out quick enough
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disconnecktie said:
You and several others wish the same thing. I tried to warn people but word didn't get out quick enough
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Since I have been able to get the bootloader unlocked, I should be able to get root somehow.
hunterintustin said:
Since I have been able to get the bootloader unlocked, I should be able to get root somehow.
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Yes you should be able to flash superuser in recovery to get root. You won't be able to use the stock ICS ROM though if you're still s off
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disconnecktie said:
Yes you should be able to flash superuser in recovery to get root. You won't be able to use the stock ICS ROM though if you're still s off
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I had the OTA and after the update got S-OFF via HTCdev's site. I tried to flash a custom recovery but it will not stick. Any clue why?
hunterintustin said:
I had the OTA and after the update got S-OFF via HTCdev's site. I tried to flash a custom recovery but it will not stick. Any clue why?
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When you go into hboot what does it show in the upper left hand corner?
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disconnecktie said:
When you go into hboot what does it show in the upper left hand corner?
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I attached you a picture of my bootloader screen
You're still s on but unlocked like I thought. I don't have the link off hand but have you tried the all in one tool?
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disconnecktie said:
You're still s on but unlocked like I thought. I don't have the link off hand but have you tried the all in one tool?
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Yes but the tool (Thunderbolt tool) does not handle HBoot 1.08 at the moment. I wish it would because this would solve my problem
Find the thread that has the fastboot flash able form of cwm and then get back to me. I'm thinking that the root method may be different now though so I'm worried an ordinary version of superuser won't work.
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I decided to take the plunge, and perform the OTA, after that hopped over to HTCDev to get the bootloader unlock to root. Flashed the handy dandy CWM recovery from fastboot, and rebooted into recovery. Flashed the SuperUser package. Guess What? No ROOT.
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I decided to take the plunge, and perform the OTA, after that hopped over to HTCDev to get the bootloader unlock to root. Flashed the handy dandy CWM recovery from fastboot, and rebooted into recovery. Flashed the SuperUser package. Guess What? No ROOT.
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Then that says the root method is different.
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I did a fastboot and flashed frev3vo, and ran adb shell.....although I wasn't root at the prompt, I was able to su root from adb shell, but I don't know at this point how to get back to root. I probably can't load an RUU either cause I lost S-OFF.
Try flashing this one in recovery. http://download.chainfire.eu/310/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.04.zip?retrieve_file=1
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disconnecktie said:
Try flashing this one in recovery. http://download.chainfire.eu/310/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.04.zip?retrieve_file=1
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Problem Solved. I had been installing the superuser.zip package to get root, but the SuperSU solved my problem, now I just have to get S-OFF again at some point, but for now I am happy root!!!! That Fixed IT

[ROM] DNA OTA Stock Rooted & OTApkg.zip 2.07.605.1 710

Here's the DNA OTA Stock Rooted and a version Deodexed 2.07.605.1 710RD.
Flash ROM from recovery.
Stock rooted:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880934016
Stock rooted Deodexed rom:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880934322
Here's the OTApkg.zip
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880934126
Any dev can use these. Just credit.
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This simply adds the Talkback feature, correct? So if I don't need that I shouldn't bother until the Sense 5/4.2.2 update?
I need only the OTA package.
MicroMod777 said:
Here's the DNA OTA 2.07.605.1 710RD with root. It's not deodexed.
Flash from recovery.
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880934016
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can u give me the ota file?
MicroMod777 said:
Here's the DNA OTA 2.07.605.1 710RD with root. It's not deodexed.
Flash from recovery.
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880934016
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Do you have the rest of the OTA? Radio's and whatnot? That's what I need.
goodman_east said:
can u give me the ota file?
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我也需要这个?哈哈。
goodman_east said:
can u give me the ota file?
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thank you!
DanielWEWO said:
This simply adds the Talkback feature, correct? So if I don't need that I shouldn't bother until the Sense 5/4.2.2 update?
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Not sure.
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Added deodexed version.
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Are there new radios or bootloader?
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lucky_strike33 said:
Are there new radios or bootloader?
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New bootloader, and thats it.
you can find it already zipped for fastboot flashing in my sig
.torrented said:
New bootloader, and thats it.
you can find it already zipped for fastboot flashing in my sig
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Are there any benefits for using the new bootloader?
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tdizzle404 said:
Are there any benefits for using the new bootloader?
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none that I can see other than it's updated, for all we know it could contain security updates, patched exploits, ect... I really don't know enough about bootloaders to really see what each different one has, unless you know how to read HTC's object code, im not sure anyone other than HTC knows what is contained in each release...
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none that I can see other than it's updated, for all we know it could contain security updates, patched exploits, ect... I really don't know enough about bootloaders to really see what each different one has, unless you know how to read HTC's object code, im not sure anyone other than HTC knows what is contained in each release...
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So no new radio, one feature? I am on engineering build (hboot) and want NO part of any hboot change. Was hoping for something significant.
Thanks
Wow Verizon really outdid themselves with this update haha
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Question, with what is in the OTA, if someone who has S-OFF through Moonshine and root (but not a custom recovery) were to take it, would there be any issues?
So I'm on crdroid cm 10.2 rom GSM, update recommended?
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prateeksahoo said:
So I'm on crdroid cm 10.2 rom GSM, update recommended?
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I am on engineering hboot, rage Rom, and phone said I have an update and after deferring it made me choose a date. I froze "updater" but am not sure that will stop the update. How do I ensure no update occurs short of switching roms? Also, will it try to update from VZW side anyway now?

Rooting after the 4.3 OTA Update

Cant seen to find any instruction on rooting/unlocking the bootloader on an Att HTC One with the 4.3 OTA Update-Any ideas anyone?
Same way as always
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Unlock bootloader. Flash custom recovery. Flash super user. Profit.
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Mind pointing us to a guide?
So the ota update didn't change or affect anything?? I've never seen that happen. Usually an ota update blocks any type our root exploit until someone figures how to crack it.
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thinkhope said:
Mind pointing us to a guide?
So the ota update didn't change or affect anything?? I've never seen that happen. Usually an ota update blocks any type our root exploit until someone figures how to crack it.
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Ya that what I was thinking, before I go ahead with it-I require atleast one more confirmation that this is untrue
The only thing that got blocked is the exploit that allowed s off because hboot was updated
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Nick281051 said:
The only thing that got blocked is the exploit that allowed s off because hboot was updated
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confirmed. you can still unlock and flash custom recovery like you always have, but the new hboot makes it impossible to s-off at this point (unless you pay for a java card or for a shop who has one to perform the s-off). There have not been any reports (to my knowledge) that ATT or HTC has blocked unlocking via htcdev.com
thinkhope said:
Mind pointing us to a guide?
So the ota update didn't change or affect anything?? I've never seen that happen. Usually an ota update blocks any type our root exploit until someone figures how to crack it.
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Which is why I said unlock bootloader first. Honestly, it's as simple as I listed it. And if you don't plan on flashing ruu's for other models, s-off isn't that big a thing. I have it, it's nice to have, but if all you want is to root, flash roms, etc, just unlock and flash custom recovery.
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What happens if you run the exe file that is the GPE RUU from the HTC site (Brightstar) after you have OTA'd to 4.3 ATT version? This is my only phone so I didn't try for fear of bricking it, but it seems like it opens the rom upgrade utility program and would flash a different ROM, or does it check and then fail the install?
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What happens if you run the exe file that is the GPE RUU from the HTC site (Brightstar) after you have OTA'd to 4.3 ATT version? This is my only phone so I didn't try for fear of bricking it, but it seems like it opens the rom upgrade utility program and would flash a different ROM, or does it check and then fail the install?
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It won't install unless you're super cid.
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It won't install unless you're super cid.
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Or have changed your CID to GOOGL001.
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Or have changed your CID to GOOGL001.
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I guess it's a catch 22, can't s-off after 4.3 OTA, so can't change CID, or obtain the SuperCID status, is that what I am understanding at this point?
hack14u said:
I guess it's a catch 22, can't s-off after 4.3 OTA, so can't change CID, or obtain the SuperCID status, is that what I am understanding at this point?
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At this point, correct. However - It's coming - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46460694#post46460694 - patience
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At this point, correct. However - It's coming - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46460694#post46460694 - patience
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Wow, oh wow.

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