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Alright I know that the Evo Shift hasn't come out yet but the rom was leaked, right? So what are the chances it would work on the Rhodium to replace Windows. Of course hardware wise the shift is faster but the Rhodium should be able to handle it and it can be overclocked.
I was going to buy a Evo or an Epic but decided to wait heared rumors of phones coming out this year with dual cpu's and I'd rather have a Evo (4.3") with a slide out keyboard and dual cpu (if they do that).
I have run the Android off the SD card but it isn't great. It is good but it would be better if it was a true rom replacement for Windows. I love the keyboard (I believe it is the best slide out keyboard out there) and the tilt (for my kids when we are out and me as well).
Well hope it is possible if not I will just stay with Windows until something better comes along. Good luck to anyone that works on it I have a 2 Sprint Touch Pro2's so I can test on one of them if anyone needs a tester.
Kurisukuni
Dude... the Evo Shift has significantly different hardware. It does the RHOD no good whatsoever...
Of course hardware wise the shift is faster but the Rhodium should be able to handle it and it can be overclocked.
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This statement makes me think you don't really know what you're talking about, you're just making assumptions. It doesn't work like this in the real world, sorry dude.
I honestly laughed out loud.
Sorry for my stupidity. The Overclock comment maybe I should have clarified. Under Project Android they have a download [Android v2.2 Froyo (FRX00B) 700MHz]. Now as for overclocking the Rhodium you can with Msm7kCpuSpeed but it is not safe. So don't give me crap about overclocking.
Now on to comparing the 2 phones (not all the specs):
From:
htc.com phonearena.com
HTC Touch Pro 2 Htc EVO Shift
Operating system:
Windows 6.5 Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Processors:
Qualcomm MSM7600 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7630 800MHz
Rom:
512mb 2048mb
Ram:
288mb 512mb
Display:
3.6" Resistive (Tilt Screen) 3.6" Capactive Multi Touch
Light Sensor:
Yes Yes
Battery:
1500mAH 1500mAH
Wifi:
b/g b/g/n
Bluetooth:
2.1 2.1
Camera:
3.2 megapixel 5.0 megapixel w/ led flash
Video Camera:
640 x 480 1280x720 (720p HD)
Gps:
yes yes
Max microsd/microsdhc:
32gb 32gb
Keyboard:
5 row 4 rows w/ d/pad
Now if I missed anything important please do tell. As I see it the thing that would hold it back would be the Processor, Ram & Rom. If that is the case then a simple "no not possible" would have been fine. Looking at pictures & videos the Evo Shift looks alot like the Rhodium. I am not saying they are the same just saying they look alike.
If it does happen then great if not then that is fine too. Was just wondering if it is possible.
Kurisukuni said:
Sorry for my stupidity. The Overclock comment maybe I should have clarified. Under Project Android they have a download [Android v2.2 Froyo (FRX00B) 700MHz]. Now as for overclocking the Rhodium you can with Msm7kCpuSpeed but it is not safe. So don't give me crap about overclocking.
Now on to comparing the 2 phones (not all the specs):
From:
htc.com phonearena.com
HTC Touch Pro 2 Htc EVO Shift
Operating system:
Windows 6.5 Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Processors:
Qualcomm MSM7600 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7630 800MHz
Rom:
512mb 2048mb
Ram:
288mb 512mb
Display:
3.6" Resistive (Tilt Screen) 3.6" Capactive Multi Touch
Light Sensor:
Yes Yes
Battery:
1500mAH 1500mAH
Wifi:
b/g b/g/n
Bluetooth:
2.1 2.1
Camera:
3.2 megapixel 5.0 megapixel w/ led flash
Video Camera:
640 x 480 1280x720 (720p HD)
Gps:
yes yes
Max microsd/microsdhc:
32gb 32gb
Keyboard:
5 row 4 rows w/ d/pad
Now if I missed anything important please do tell. As I see it the thing that would hold it back would be the Processor, Ram & Rom. If that is the case then a simple "no not possible" would have been fine. Looking at pictures & videos the Evo Shift looks alot like the Rhodium. I am not saying they are the same just saying they look alike.
If it does happen then great if not then that is fine too. Was just wondering if it is possible.
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Remember, the processor, RAM, and ROM are the basics of what make up the "computer" part of the device. They are possibly manufactured by the same company (usually with parts imported from different companies), but things like instruction sets, etc could be and usually are very different. Also, the capacitive touch screen will create huge differences as well.
The 7600 is ARMv6, the 7630 is ARMv7 (those are the instruction sets I mentioned). They also have completely different cores, as well. Really, the only things they have in common are similar names and RISC structure.
Thank you! That is all I was looking for. I was hoping it was possible. I figured that would have been it but the that gets me is (I know nothing of writing software) it's not even possible of using the Evo Shift rom as a base. Again if it has alll to do with the processor, ram & rom I understand. But looking at computers for example you put windows xp on a 366mhz computer with 256mhz of ram & have a 500gb ide drive. I runs
Sorry for not finishing doing this off my Rhodium.
It would run slow but it runs. I know there is a big difference between a desk pc & a Smartphone. I am just saying people have rewrote OS's to work on different things. How about running Rhobuntu on the Rhodium? I haven't done it but it has been done.
I am not trying to start any kind of fight or problems was just wondering. I do thank you for the info. I am just learning about alot of stuff. I have flashed my phone & others many times. I am working on rooting & flashing a Samsung Moment now (trying to decided which rom to flash). Currently I am runniing NRGZ28 Energy rom (released 1/6/2010).
Thanks again.
If your question is whether or not a really good or group of really good coders could get it ported, the answer would be "most likely." The point of the answer, though, was it would have to start from ground up. There isn't a whole lot that could be taken from what's currently written for the Rhodium.
The Rhodium has run other software that was not meant for it. It is a matter of writing different drivers, not whether the hardware is there or not.
What's so awesome about the Evo Shift ROM that we don't already have? What is it about it that makes you want it ported?
Note: If you answer "this or that isn't working on with xdandroid" - it is because we don't have drivers for it. The hardware differences between the Evo Shift and Rhodium may be minor on paper, but in reality, they are going to be significantly different in terms of driver compatibility. Just look at all the hardware differences between various Rhodiums the xdandroid team has had to deal with that aren't visible to end users.
Things I would expect:
1) Completely different panel
2) Completely different GPS RPC API (Note: This is probably more dependent on the radio ROM than the hardware itself, but still - it would almost surely be significantly different.)
3) Probably a completely different wifi chipset
4) Probably a completely different bluetooth chipset
5) Completely different camera
I agree with your statement about holding out for a dual core evo shift as that would be the ideal next fone for me too
But as regards your query . . .evo shift is android right? And you do kno we havnt even perfected Basic Nand yet (good work being don't but not their yet) its not a case of ripping the rom changing a few things BAm! Flash it on and bobs your uncle its far from that Even if the device had the same specs. But regarding the specs you mentioned about the rhodium vs the evo. . .that is a pretty huge difference hardware wise even if you take overcloking into account(which will suk the battery dry)
For example take the huawei, iv heard it has close on identical specs to the rhodium family devices (528 processor) and it runs android froyo . . . . But that rom couldn't be just ripped and stuk on the touch pro. A port was made and after a lot of work it was got running (over on neopeek), But it wasn't Nand at all. It was run from sd card (which is the best method atm)
So in short could we get it running on tp2? Yes . . . .But it would NOT be off nand. And would it be worth the time and effort? No. . . . .because even after all the work I can almost garentee that it won't run as well as the huawei rom or other ported fone firmwares due to the fact of hardware differences
SAMSUNG FOCUS
How's is this phone for Rs.13290 (US$ 290)
1. Super AMOLED capacitive 4" touchscreen, 16M colors.
2. 8 GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
3. 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, [email protected]
4. 1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset
5. Will be getting Mango Update in October
How's the deal and phone in your point of view?
http://cgi.ebay.in/250883320186
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lekhwani said:
SAMSUNG FOCUS
How's is this phone for Rs.13290 (US$ 300)
1. Super AMOLED capacitive 4" touchscreen, 16M colors.
2. 8 GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
3. 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, [email protected]
4. 1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset
5. Will be getting Mango Update in October
How's the deal and phone in your point of view?
http://cgi.ebay.in/250883320186
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well if u like windows phone 7 than its good for you
shhbz said:
well if u like windows phone 7 than its good for you
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Have just heard that Mango is good.
Wish to keep 3 all the time:
One Android Phone O1 or xiomi
One Mango Phone rs.13000
One Ipod Touch 16 gb rs.13000
Features and capabilities apart, Market Place for all devices available as well. Best of three worlds.
A lot of time to play and waste
(Android Market/App Store/Mango Store.)
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lekhwani said:
Have just heard that Mango is good.
Wish to keep 3 all the time:
One Android Phone O1 or xiomi
One Mango Phone rs.13000
One Ipod Touch 16 gb rs.13000
Features and capabilities apart, Market Place for all devices available as well. Best of three worlds.
A lot of time to play and waste
(Android Market/App Store/Mango Store.)
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well xiaomi will support dual booting as well as i heard from sources so it might boot mango aka windows 7.5,miui,cm7,aosp rom all in one.
why dont u get an hd2 instead the best phone ever u can easily get a mint 1 at around 280 $-300$ if u want to use mango as hd2 will definately supprt all or wait for xiomi as it makes his way in xda and see what else starts cooking
Lekhwani : one of my friend is using this phone, except the specs nothing is good right now. Even though u can flash the mango, but the market is currently not available for Indian users. You need to hack/trick to use US market. Also, you will get bored quite easily after few days as no quality apps etc. I would suggest to wait until some big updates comes for WP7 thn only think to purchase it. For a great combo, use your current phone with iPod 4g and you will enjoy best of the world. iOS is great for gaming/music/videos and awesome appstore which will keep you busy. One the ICS comes, thn upgrade ur Android phone.
Ps: if you buy iPod 4G buy 32gb atleast as most good apps/games demands huge mb's and 8gb would be too less for you.
Results:
Browsermark Test: Higher is better
iPhone 4 (iOS 4.3) – 37 503
Nokia Lumia 800 (WP7.5 aka Mango) – 30 452
iPhone 4S (iOS 5) – 86 702
Speed Reading Test:
iPhone 4 (iOS 4.3) – 2 fps (iPhone 4 with iOS 5.0 – around 37 fps)
Nokia Lumia 800 (WP7.5 aka Mango) – 40 fps
iPhone 4S (iOS 5) – 60 fps
Sunspider Test: Lower is better
iPhone 4 (iOS 4.3) – 4018.2 ms
Nokia Lumia 800 (WP7.5 aka Mango) – 7188.7 ms
iPhone 4S (iOS 5) – 2266 ms
Acid3 Test:
iPhone 4 (iOS 4.3) – 100/100
Nokia Lumia 800 (WP7.5 aka Mango) – 100/100
iPhone 4S (iOS 5) – 100/100
HTML5 Test:
iPhone 4 (iOS 4.3) – 210
Nokia Lumia 800 (WP7.5 aka Mango) – 141
iPhone 4S (iOS 5) – 296
You do realise that the 4s is dual core, right
In single core... well we know that Ios got smoked by a WP7 XD XD
I don't need to see a browser test to know that the Lumia is the better phone
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I don't care about benchmarks. It's fashion that android brought in mobile phones.
I see that lumia 800 is faster in loading pages than iphone 4, and most of the times a little bit slower than iphone 4s. But some pages loading faster with lumia rather than 4s. It's very small difference in time indeed.
But lumia has a really better scrolling and general feeling when browsing.
Overall, I prefer browsing with lumia, apart from screen size.
Yup... Iphone 4S rulz all the tests..... that's why I prefere and use a Lumia 800...
Benchmarks is one thing. User experience is what matters and that's why the Lumia wins anyway.
You shouldn't compare dual core with single core
himura05 said:
You shouldn't compare dual core with single core
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Why not? iPhone 4S might win some benchmarks.
But in real life, WP is simply faster:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/cmpn/smoked-by-windows-phone.aspx
Radek Hulán said:
Why not? iPhone 4S might win some benchmarks.
But in real life, WP is simply faster:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/cmpn/smoked-by-windows-phone.aspx
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To be fair, those aren't so much "real-life" scenarios as specific scenarios where WP excels against the competition. Other tasks, such as apps launching and contact finding & dialing, typically require one or two additional steps in WP, especially once you have a lot of apps installed.
Benchmarks are not indicative of real world use. I do not know of one web page which runs java script iterations for a long time for example.
The WP UI is far more optimal than iOS. I can do things with less touches than iOS and have proved that by comparing against the iPhone 4 here at our dev lab.
HTC Desire X
Hi guys, so, i just got a new phone, the HTC Desire X, and i immediatly tried to root it, but since there aren't any recovery images for it yet, i couldn't, altough i díd manage to get it HTCDev unlocked. But now i want to get the stock recovery file for the HTC Desire X wich i can't find. So please if you have it, submit it here. thankyou ^^. The HTC Desire X's specs are below here
Read this tut for rooting your HTC Desire X, it works!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32790995#post32790995
DESIGN
Device type:
Smart phone
OS:
Android (4.0) Sense UI
Dimensions:
4.67 x 2.45 x 0.37 (118.5 x 62.3 x 9.3 mm)
Weight:
4.02 oz (114 g)
the average is 4.1 oz (116 g)
DISPLAY
Physical size:
4 inches
Resolution:
480 x 800 pixels
Pixel density:
233 ppi
Technology:
S-LCD 2
Colors:
16 777 216
Touchscreen:
Capacitive, Multi-touch
Features:
Light sensor, Proximity sensor, Scratch-resistant glass
BATTERY
Talk time:
20.00 hours
the average is 8 h (487 min)
Stand-by time:
31.2 days (750 hours)
the average is 19 days (467 h)
Talk time (3G):
6.00 hours
the average is 7 h (420 min)
Stand-by time (3G):
34.7 days (833 hours)
the average is 21 days (506 h)
Capacity:
1650 mAh
HARDWARE
System chip:
Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Play MSM8225
Processor:
Dual core, 1000 MHz, Cortex-A5
Graphics processor:
Adreno 203
System memory:
768 MB RAM
Built-in storage:
4 GB
Storage expansion:
microSD, microSDHC up to 32 GB
CAMERA
Camera:
5 megapixels
Flash:
LED
Aperture size:
F2.0
Features:
Back-illuminated sensor (BSI), Auto focus, Face detection, Smile detection, Exposure compensation, ISO control, White balance presets, Burst mode, Digital zoom, Geo tagging, High Dynamic Range mode (HDR), Panorama, Macro mode, Night mode, Scenes, Self-timer
Camcorder:
720x480 (DVD)
Features:
Continuous autofocus in a video
MULTIMEDIA
Music player:
Filter by:
Album, Artist, Playlists
Features:
Album art cover, Background playback, Beats Audio
Radio:
FM, Stereo, RDS, Music recognition
Speakers:
Earpiece, Loudspeaker
YouTube player:
Yes
INTERNET BROWSING
Browser:
Yes
Built-in online services support:
YouTube (upload), Picasa
TECHNOLOGY
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS:
850, 900, 2100 MHz
Data:
HSPA (unspecified), UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Positioning:
GPS, A-GPS
Navigation:
Turn-by-turn navigation, Voice navigation
Iam thinking about buying an Desire X, can you tell me how is battery?How about performance?system reactions and gaming?thanks for answer
Battery perfomance gaming.
Ah yes, the Desire X is perfect for gaming, for a full game experience i suggest riptide GP, and about the battery, it's great, if you want to use it to the max, be carefull to not have to many apps open. And the perfomance is awesome, altough it's just 1 ghz, when using it, it won't differ that much from the HTC One X, so this is the best phone for mid-budget prices.
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Butcher55 said:
Iam thinking about buying an Desire X, can you tell me how is battery?How about performance?system reactions and gaming?thanks for answer
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Performance feels good, not super fast but fast enough not to annoy me with any lag.
Battery lasts about two or three days here on regular usage. But I haven't yet installed SetCPU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419) yet, so it might last longer in the future.
I'm kind of thinking about getting this phone but by the time I can change (27 Dec 2012) there are gonna be lots more new phone out by then.
Austin 3:16 says "I just whooped your ass". Sent from my Cooper running Gingerbread MIUI.
WTF,why hasn't HTC J Z321e had its own pages?
I cannot wait for seeing it!!
I have bought Wild Blood from gameloft.com and it runs without lag and looks great ! modern combat 3 runs super smooth for me too, iam also happy with this little sweet looking phone
Does it have gorilla glass and compass?
Thanks
No compass, it dous have gorilla glass.
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I think it's a very good value and i'm going to buy it if no issues appear
And for those who want more pocketable device - it's perfect
Yesterday got mine, it's a great phone, good looking, compact, fast.
Is there a setting to put wallpapers at the screen rezolution(480x800) ? Only picture that are 960x800 work and it's a bit tricky to set it on the screen because i have to drag that frame every time.
Ehm, i dont know, i just use the standard HTC wallpaper, sorry.
MaartenXDA said:
No compass
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Ok, but...what I cannot do without it?
Thanks
I bought it its good device
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MaartenXDA said:
No compass, it dous have gorilla glass.
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Plz link where you found out it have gorilla glass? Cant find it anywhere. thnx :fingers-crossed:
I dont remeber where, but i'm really sure it got gorilla glass, maybe check out htc.com?
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I did, and cant find it anywhere. Thats why am curios Really want too buy it, but dont like screeen protectors
okay sorry, i can't find it, but i do know that the HTC Desire, Desire S and Desire Z have gorilla glass, so it's likely that the Desire X has it too.
MaartenXDA said:
okay sorry, i can't find it, but i do know that the HTC Desire, Desire S and Desire Z have gorilla glass, so it's likely that the Desire X has it too.
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Np just curious, i know those got it, and says soo on website. But says nothing on info on the desire x, and would be sad if they didnt use it on such a nice phone as the x.:crying:
I`ve emailed HTC hopefully they will give me an answear soon
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone involved in this site. The experience has been very enriching so far.
I have a Cherry Mobile Razor which I bought here in the Philippines. Specs are as follows:
- Mediatek MT6589 Quad-core Cortex A7 Processor
- PowerVR SGX 544MP
- 1GB LPDDR2
- 540x960 qHD IPS LCD Screen
- 4GB Internal Storage
-16 GB SDcard/ External Storage
- Android Jellybean 4.2.1
- 1750mAh Battery
Now, it is a sweet device for it's price point. Catch is, the screen refresh rate is locked to a snail-pace 22Hz. That's right, 22Hz. The big difference between the amount of frames the device can process and the rate it can spit images out on the screen is so big it shows as a laggy platform for a myriad of 2D applications. You can even feel the "display latency" when typing on the on-screen keyboard. The animations are fluid, but laggy response can be felt.
The question:
I wish to edit the refresh rate setting on the device and set it to about 60Hz. I am rooted and read somewhere that settings are located in the kernel. I am thinking of editing the boot.img in my device, either the manual way via ADB or through a kernel kitchen. But before I do any sort of unpacking, editing, then repacking - am I looking at this correctly?
Are there other things I need to consider and know like LCD screen specs, etc.,... ????