Gotta Let you all in on Scotty's ROM - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"

Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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I ran his roms when I had my gs3. Tbey were the best. Fast and everything worked. I havent tried any roms fpr tgis one yet but when I do it will be his rom first.
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I love it as well. Best performance out of any ROM. But I also am in love with AOSP and 4.2 is amazing. So torn!!!
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I cant do the stock look, it doesnt agree with me!

Bradh024 said:
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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Yeah... I'm just letting people know tjere was a stock-ish rom with un believabke battery performance. I can't even remember where my extra battery is....I havent used it since I started using Clean.
Other roms are great...clean is...just amazing

I gotta give this a try

A couple of things...
Is everything working?
And of course the famous "is wifi tether working"?
And - how stock is stock? Do you get the horrible message in your pull down, "There are wifi networks available?", "Your wifi is off" blah blah blah. Man! That was irritating!
Thanks for any information.
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I disagree. I wasn't impressed with that ROM.
But its your opinion. Glad u like it.
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sudermatt said:
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
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Im at 1d, 10 hours and almost 1.5 hours screen time, I have 56% left....
Oh and stock.
Sorry but no zip rom dev will ever improve battery life without coding their own battery saving applications.
I am sure the rom is great, but don't credit battery life to it

Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.

imnuts said:
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.

adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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It has always been my belief that you use roms for features, not performance or battery claims.

I use Jelly Beans ROM 8 and the performance and battery life is 100 times difference. The battery with heavy usage was at 56% from 7am until 5pm. My Galaxy Note 2's performance without overclocking has been extremely fast in comparison to stock, I can now watch videos with any browser without the hour glass circle hanging for an extended period of time.
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
Basically I am reiterating what adrynalyne and imnuts said here

adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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kejar31 said:
AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
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Your Liberty rom on my old Droid X improved performance and battery life significantly, and my co-worker mentions often how her friends and family with better, newer phones are surprised that her phone runs better.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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I don't notice as much now, but with older devices bloat had a huge impact on performance and battery life. On some of my phones blockbuster was one of the biggest battery hogs and I've never once opened that app. On my Droid X with 512mb ram it would start to lag at 90mb free, it was really bad once it got down to 70mb free, and would freeze at 50mb free. Before I first rooted I had to use a app killer before I used my phone so it wouldn't lag, and if I used it more than 20 minutes or so I had to run it again to stop the lag. Once I rooted I started using an app to set the memory to always keep 90 mb or more free and didn't have lag anymore, but the apps I was using would constantly redraw but bloat apps I never used would be eating up all my ram, I debloated it and have been fine ever since.

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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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Those *things* you never used are backgrounded and harmless, despite perceptions.
I have never seen a battery use screen shot chock full of apps never used draining the battery. ...
Except Maps. That one is annoying.
I am fully stock still and almost 2d usage with 34 percent left.

This is with Scott's clean Rom 1.0. Maybe stock gives you the same battery performance. But this Rom is as smooth as butter.
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Improved Battery Life with new roms

This is the biggest drawback to a stock Rezound!! Is this an issue we're addressing? I think we'd all appreciate a definite focus on this when cooking roms devs. Also I'd like to thank you guys for all your hard work and dedication. Its greatly appreciated!
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I'm running cleanrom 1.0 after a few initial sleep of deaths its running smooth and has noticeably better battery life been playing all morning and still at 85%
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Most ROMs don't really affect battery life much (if at all) unless they include a stripped down lean kernel also.
~John
I've gone through and removed a bunch of the unused HTC/Sense related files from /system/apps after switching to ADW EX, my battery life is already noticeably better. I accidentally removed some important HTC Lockscreen related files though, so I'm trying to go back and figure out which files I need to restore...
My free RAM also went from average ~150MB to around ~400MB too, so obviously Sense is a huge drain on resouces and battery life.
I use ADWLauncher EX because I like it, but I've never noticed any change in either performance or battery life.
Android does not need a ton of free RAM (it's completely different than windows mobile) and I don't believe it affects battery life at all.
~John
I've been on internet all day ans extended battery still at 82%
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jmorton10 said:
I use ADWLauncher EX because I like it, but I've never noticed any change in either performance or battery life.
Android does not need a ton of free RAM (it's completely different than windows mobile) and I don't believe it affects battery life at all.
~John
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I think you misunderstood my points.. I wasn't trying to indicate that using ADW EX would improve performance or battery life. Also, I wasn't trying to indicate that more free memory equals more performance. What I meant was that a lot of sense related programs still load even if you're using an alternate launcher, and that these programs apparently consume both memory and CPU time. After i removed them, i noticed both more free memory as well as improved battery consumption.
gotcha
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smartass vs ondemand?

What do you guys think is better smartassv2 or ondemand? I usually use smartassv2 but im not sure with the rezound.
I'm using ondemand and its been perfect for me. no rebooted and great battery life.
I flashed incredikernel 6 the day it was released weeks ago.
I use on-demand, I have not had a single reboot/bootloop etc yet & the battery life is super.
I use on demand with the stock Kernel (using cleanrom 3.5). I drop the cpu down to about 1.ghz and set a profile for on demand between 192 and 760 something when the screen is off. I only dropped about 3 percent a few nights ago while sleeping (6.5 hours roughly). (the phone doesn't go into sleep mode and I dont have a battery saver). I don't get that with my heavy usage, but that is a big plus.
Where do you guys get the download for ondemand? Back in the day when I had the OG Droid, everyone used SetCPU. Doesn't seem to be the app of choice any more to set frequencies. I can't find ondemand (or smartass for that matter) in the market. ANy suggestions?
I had been using ondemand up until a few days ago. The last couple days I have been using interactive, and it seems like both battery life and performance are somewhat better, although I have no hard numbers to support this, and I have really random usage.
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smartassv2 seems to be working well for me so far.
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Where do you guys get the download for ondemand? Back in the day when I had the OG Droid, everyone used SetCPU. Doesn't seem to be the app of choice any more to set frequencies. I can't find ondemand (or smartass for that matter) in the market. ANy suggestions?
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They're features on the kernel. When you install the kernel you'll be able to check which one you wanna use from the app. (SetCPU may be good, but it seems the apps of choice on the Rezound are AnTuTu or Systems Tuner Pro, I use AnTuTU.)
Or if you use incredikernel the app incredicontrol goes along with it perfectly and is 100% totally stable for me. I have tried every kernel there is both GB and ICS on my phone and incredikernel and the stock kernel are the only ones that will run stability test scaling stability test all night long without bootlooping.
Volkaru said:
They're features on the kernel. When you install the kernel you'll be able to check which one you wanna use from the app. (SetCPU may be good, but it seems the apps of choice on the Rezound are AnTuTu or Systems Tuner Pro, I use AnTuTU.)
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Thank you so much for the reply. I am just sticking with the stock Kernal for now, but I was interested in undervolting the kernal while it's in sleep mode and while charging to see if I can save battery life. I just tried SetCPU, but was not pleased with the constant SU pop ups. It was keeping my screen awake. I think I'll five AnTuTu a shot.
If I ever load a custom kernal, I'll know what to keep an eye out for.
I have completely given up on undervolting at this point, I never once saw a noticeable increase in battery life but I definitely ended up with a less stable phone.........
jmorton10 said:
I have completely given up on undervolting at this point, I never once saw a noticeable increase in battery life but I definitely ended up with a less stable phone.........
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What we need are more custom kernels.
I have undervolted (Incredikernel with Incredicontrol) and it's quite stable and the battery life is pretty good. I can get 12 - 16 hours with the stock battery with medium usage (texting, browsing).
Interstingly, it was 10 - 12 with OnDemand. Interactive seems to be better.
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LunaticSerenade said:
I have undervolted (Incredikernel with Incredicontrol) and it's quite stable and the battery life is pretty good. I can get 12 - 16 hours with the stock battery with medium usage (texting, browsing).
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Have you ever tried leaving all the settings exactly the same and NOT undervolting??
I would be willing to bet the battery life would be almost identical.
CPU Tuner is awesome also. Might be the best.
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jmorton10 said:
Have you ever tried leaving all the settings exactly the same and NOT undervolting??
I would be willing to bet the battery life would be almost identical.
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Actually, yes. It did make a difference. Not as significant as on the Incredible, although that may be a difference in HAVS vs SVS.
But what works for one may not work for all.
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im hoping IMO ends up making a kernel for us. i know he makes them for the thunderbolt.
I'm pretty content with Inredikernel. I'm sure Chad is going to hit us with something awesome soon.
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LunaticSerenade said:
I'm pretty content with Inredikernel. I'm sure Chad is going to hit us with something awesome soon.
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The more options the better though.
mighty_markus12 said:
The more options the better though.
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Well played sir. /bow
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ICS - 1 week later... impressions?

So it's been roughly a week since the ICS leak hit. What are your impressions?
I didn't think a tweaked GB 2.3.4 rom was too bad, at least not to the point where I constantly pined over ICS. GB was satisfactory to say the least.
ICS has been pretty impressive imo. Battery life has definitely improved and things feel a bit more peppier. Then again it could all be placebo effect. I mainly preferred a sense base rom for the camera and I'm pretty happy i can have the best of both worlds.
Overall if my level of satisfaction with the 2.3.4 roms was a 7/10 i would rate my satisfaction a 9/10 with ICS.
What do you guys think so far?
So far so good, i would rate it 9.5/10.
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
Very stable here.
dasudevil said:
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
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I'm having the same experience.
the only thing i really dislike about ics is the lack of apps optimized for ics (no fault of ics of course)
my reception doesn't feel changed at all.
I guess its because where i am its either 1. very strong or 2. weak to the point where there is no signal.
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
I like ARHD. I'm getting fast data speeds and good reception. The battery life isn't all that great. I already reconditioned it 3 times, and did a battery stats wipe. Unplugged it at 12 am, and checked it at 6am. It was already at 86 percent. If it was my glacier, it would be at 95 or more. I also used better battery stats app, and disabled any rouge apps. Juice defender running disabling all data, and system tuner sets the governor to powersave while the screen is off.
For some reason, I can't get the radio settings to stick. It always goes back to gsm whenever I tried to set it to gsm/wcdma prl or anything else.
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stevedebi said:
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
oryan_dunn said:
Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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I split my games into categories (RPG, board, etc). Very useful.
My reception has gotten slightly better, stock ICS with Apex launcher is much smoother than any GB ROM I've tried, and even though I'm not a fan of HTC Sense's overhead, I'm still pretty happy with it
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Is that launcher on the Goggle Market? I may give it a try.
glacierguy said:
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Stock rooted? I thought u would be running speedrom or something
But I do enjoy ics very much. Everything is smoother and more fluid. I LOVE IT!
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1. MUCH improved battery life.
2. Snappier response.
3. 150MB less memory usage on average. I've changed nothing about my usage habits. This probably contributes quite a bit to the snappier performance.
I'm not sure if reception is better, haven't really been paying attention. Overall I'm impressed. I like the return to the icon bar instead of that stupid giant PHONE button with two other useless things on it. I am noticing a little bit of stutter on cpu intensive apps; wonder if that's just tweaking/optimization that will be taken care of in the release.
I think my phone reception is a little bit better with the new radio, but my wifi reception has gone crazy with the new radio. Sometimes I'll have full bars sitting in one spot, and 0 wifi bars a minute later in the same spot. I do like ICS a lot more than GB though.
Perhaps those are some of the issues the T-Mobile team wants HTC to fix before the actual release.

Skyraider battery issues

Since I got this phone in may last year, I haven't had horrible battery life, but it wasn't good either.
So, I rooted my phone and put off getting a ROM until I started having the dreaded reboot issue. I was on stock froyo of all things.
Now, I'm on skyraider. But my battery life is worse...much worse. I'm having trouble understanding why. I have less programs running in the background than ever. I think this thing underclocks too, right? In the skyraider settings it has a min and max setting. The max is 1ghz and the min is like 300 ish mhz.
The only other thing I can think to mention is my radio. I was apparantly on a radio that works with both froyo and gingerbread. I was consufed by how I flashed a GB rom from froyo and I still had a connection and all that. But anyway, perhaps this radio is inefficent?
Maybe there's some other idiot check thing I've missed. I always turn off features that I'm not using like gps and the like. I also use minimal brightness and don't run any live wallpapers. I'm using stock wall papers and skins.
I have not yet done a battery calibration. I plan to when I get some time...but does it *really* make a difference of hours to my battery's lifespan?
Man, I need a rezound battery...
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
Do the calibration. Sometimes you have o do it between Rom flashes but its worth it.
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Lessen the number and frequency of apps that update (sync) in the background: email, fb, weather, etc. And, trying using the wifi when stationery, lower screen brightness.
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Skyraider is very stock-like, no performance kernel included (uses stock HTC), etc, etc so it should get equal battery life as stock does. The benefit of SR is the "LTE Auto On/Off" option it has. That can make a HUGE difference ! Be sure to enable it - it's not enabled by default.
Try the IMO 5.1 kernel
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Worth going back to GB?

I'm just generally asking peoples opinions, not which rom is best, or which provides the most battery life. But just generally we all know there has been slight decrease in battery since ICS and Jellybean, and I do remember having at least a bit more battery life than I do now when I was on GB. So people's opinions, does anyone think it's worth going back to GB?
No. It's like asking 'Would you rather go back to Windoze 3.1 ?' (A: Only if I can go back to 1993). Making an absolute statement like 'Battery life running GB stock is better than running ICS or JB stock' is nonsense. For some people & some phone setups, sure, they might well get better battery life running GB stock. And for a whole bunch of other people, that won't be the case.
So it's not a particularly meaningful question to begin with due to the variables involved.
Bungle is right.GB is very old.A lot of apps are made to support Android 4.0/4.1 +.With GB you will lose this
Battery life was better on gb but jb is so much faster, smoother and better looking! so its worth the extra battery usage
Haha well I do like the extra performance and looks but I'd also like the extra battery life, trying to find a balance in ROMs and kernels just to find my phone to last a whole day without being used and losing 50% battery is really hard for me D:
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I used neatrom base 4.0.4 Ver 3.6 Battery is used 3h40' On Screen for Download, web.., Wait time: 12h.
mate i can use nearly 4+ oc browsing
battery depend on many things, gb is to old ,isc is crap ,wifh jb u have to options stock(custom) or cm10.1-2 4.2.2 just read anojt and chose .
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for me GB is an escape pod for people who needs a lot of ram and would like the old vs the new, since the JB uses up a lot of ram even from just stock apps but lacks style and interface, it's ugly when you look at it from a person who has a JB. S
Rooted stock GB for me,with speedmod kernel.
I wouldnt use anything else.
Why are you using GB theunderling? What are the exact benefits?
I'm also thinking about going back to GB
alittlespecial said:
Why are you using GB theunderling? What are the exact benefits?
I'm also thinking about going back to GB
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I use it because it works as it should and has the best battery life;for me.
Ive tried loads of custom roms and Ive found theres always one problem or other,or the battery life is poor.
This isnt criticism of developers work,but I just use what I said earlier with the Samsung bloatware removed.
And these type of threads arent advised,as theres 1000s of different setups available which work differently for each user;thus can result in arguments.
dark_blitz said:
for me GB is an escape pod for people who needs a lot of ram and would like the old vs the new, since the JB uses up a lot of ram even from just stock apps but lacks style and interface, it's ugly when you look at it from a person who has a JB. S
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mate on 4.2.2 + dorimax and system is smooth battery frindly when u how to set and i prepared system when boot i have nearly 500mb ram free and usualy 300+ and all aps work ,
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