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Like many people I have to have my phone as a daily driver. I love the MIUI but its time to put the experimenting to the side and get back to 100% functional. I was wondering if someone could debloat and debing the latest offical Froyo ED05. Also no one has ever said whether or not there is anything good about the kernal included with it. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could do this. I'm sure others would to. I will continue though to mess with the CM7 / Miui stuff but I just need a fallback rom till they are 100% stable and Functional.
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Like many people I have to have my phone as a daily driver. I love the MIUI but its time to put the experimenting to the side and get back to 100% functional. I was wondering if someone could debloat and debing the latest offical Froyo ED05. Also no one has ever said whether or not there is anything good about the kernal included with it. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could do this. I'm sure others would to. I will continue though to mess with the CM7 / Miui stuff but I just need a fallback rom till they are 100% stable and Functional.
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+1. Please someone do this.
I second this, but I have a feeling a lot of our devs jumped ship when they were able to upgrade.....i sincerly hope I'm wrong!
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How about one of you guys trying it? If I really wanted I could post one. But I'm lazy \
Besides can't you just use ed01 unbloated and safe some time?
@tonu42: I would gladly take on that task if I could just get someone to give me an outline of how to. I was a wiz with windows mobile, so it shouldnt take me that long to learn how to with android... do you know how?
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djblu said:
@tonu42: I would gladly take on that task if I could just get someone to give me an outline of how to. I was a wiz with windows mobile, so it shouldnt take me that long to learn how to with android... do you know how?
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Same here, I too am would do it if I was seasoned enough in linux. I have removed quite abit on my phone, but when it comes to creating update zips and manifests and deodexing stuff I'm just not there yet. I to am a fast learner, just need some guidance.
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How about one of you guys trying it? If I really wanted I could post one. But I'm lazy \
Besides can't you just use ed01 unbloated and safe some time?
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I was actually working on something like it, but I kinda stopped once JT's Vanilla Gingerbread ROM came out. So far, I got the ED05 base deodexed/debinged/zipaligned but I have encountered some issues like the camera and voice search force closing due to some compression I added to the APKs, which I can fix. It's a simple ROM that doesnt have a lot of mods and such since it is my first time making a ROM. Not sure if I should keep working on it or not because I only did it 'cause I was bored, but now I'm lazy
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I was actually working on something like it, but I kinda stopped once JT's Vanilla Gingerbread ROM came out. So far, I got the ED05 base deodexed/debinged/zipaligned but I have encountered some issues like the camera and voice search force closing due to some compression I added to the APKs, which I can fix. It's a simple ROM that doesnt have a lot of mods and such since it is my first time making a ROM. Not sure if I should keep working on it or not because I only did it 'cause I was bored, but now I'm lazy
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I'm sure numerous people would appreciate it. I know I would. Really all I want is a stripped down rom with basically nothing in it. I think there are enough launchers, apps, and themes out there that we could use to customize the ED05 release to how we want and be able keep out functionality until a rock solid CM7 /Miui is released. If you decide to give up on what you have started please feel free to send me what you have so I may proceed on.
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I was actually working on something like it, but I kinda stopped once JT's Vanilla Gingerbread ROM came out. So far, I got the ED05 base deodexed/debinged/zipaligned but I have encountered some issues like the camera and voice search force closing due to some compression I added to the APKs, which I can fix. It's a simple ROM that doesnt have a lot of mods and such since it is my first time making a ROM. Not sure if I should keep working on it or not because I only did it 'cause I was bored, but now I'm lazy
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Aren't we all lazy
And to the guy who said making scripts is hard its really not. Just rip open or kang someones script.
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I'm sure numerous people would appreciate it. I know I would. Really all I want is a stripped down rom with basically nothing in it. I think there are enough launchers, apps, and themes out there that we could use to customize the ED05 release to how we want and be able keep out functionality until a rock solid CM7 /Miui is released. If you decide to give up on what you have started please feel free to send me what you have so I may proceed on.
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I probably might release something tonight or tomorrow. Just gotta back up my phone so I can test it out, I think I fixed whatever I broke. and as for the script, I had to kang it too, but after looking at it for a while it doesnt seem that hard to make one.
Also regarding kernels, there are no custom kernels yet, so no Voodoo lagfix, color, or sound and adding that is way out of my league.
That would be Great! As far as the kernal goes we may be able to get away with OTB 1.6 for a while
There has been rumor that ED06 will be released. My phone, brothers, girlfriend all still have missed calls, texts on ED05 stock.
Just mentioning this because if ED06 gets released then there will request for a debinged/debloated.
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Aren't we all lazy
And to the guy who said making scripts is hard its really not. Just rip open or kang someones script.
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I never said it was hard, I was merely saying that I have not ever did it before.
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There has been rumor that ED06 will be released. My phone, brothers, girlfriend all still have missed calls, texts on ED05 stock.
Just mentioning this because if ED06 gets released then there will request for a debinged/debloated.
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That would be sweet as well... but I've seen rumors last for years. It's better to just work with what we have.
What isn't 100% functional in MIUI and CM7 at this point? MIUI is on both the fascinates in my house, and everything has been fine for me?
Well, it looks like my Dropbox account is gone. Can't log on to it or anything...great. As a result, I'll attach some screenshots of what I got so far. It's a simple debinged/deodexed ROM (mainly because I'm new at this, if someone wants to theme it/mod it later on feel free) with busybox added and it's prerooted. Contains Launcher2 from SuperClean and debinged ED01 browser, AOSP Music and Car Cradle, Spare Parts and Google Maps added. I'll upload it later so some people can try it before I fully release it.
Edit: also has latest market.
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What isn't 100% functional in MIUI and CM7 at this point? MIUI is on both the fascinates in my house, and everything has been fine for me?
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At this point CM7 and MIUI is still lacking on the sensors being spot on (ex: tilt sensors) wanna know what I mean go install aTilt Labyrinth. You will see what I mean. Also you have the phantom ring and low call volumes. JT has already stated that he had no intention on fixing the call volume untill there was a gingerbread source. Some other small issues but neways.
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Well, it looks like my Dropbox account is gone. Can't log on to it or anything...great. As a result, I'll attach some screenshots of what I got so far. It's a simple debinged/deodexed ROM (mainly because I'm new at this, if someone wants to theme it/mod it later on feel free) with busybox added and it's prerooted. Contains Launcher2 from SuperClean and debinged ED01 browser, AOSP Music and Car Cradle, Spare Parts and Google Maps added. I'll upload it later so some people can try it before I fully release it.
Edit: also has latest market.
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Looks promising. Lets give it a run.
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Looks promising. Lets give it a run.
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Starting to upload it. Once its done, I'll post a link so you or any other people can try it before I make a more public release, I want to make sure It'll work fine for everyone. Also, note this ROM will flash the ED05 stock kernel, after you flash it you can install OTB or PB&J but I'm not sure if OTB or PB&J will work or not.
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Besides can't you just use ed01 unbloated and safe some time?
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ED05 Supposedly fixes the missed call problem.
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
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Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!
I love the hardware of this phone, but really hate touchwiz and miss the ics from my nexus. How long before a working Rom, preferably milestone, is out
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I love the hardware of this phone, but really hate touchwiz and miss the ics from my nexus. How long before a working Rom, preferably milestone, is out
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Aren't there already CM9 Nightlies going out? Has anyone tried an international ROM on a Tmobile SGS3?
We dont have root access yet...as far as i know.
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International ROM don't work on this device! Don't even try! nor the same root or CWM!
There all different.
*sigh*
i was one of those trigger happy people who tried to root and didnt realize i was using the i9300....
basically i have to wait till there is a ROM available for the SGH-T999 to FIX my mistake?
used odin3 v1.85
used CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3.tar
ALSO (super fail) had the option for partition checked
soooooo the phone only boots up to the screen that was black...
i left my phone off and turned off everything .... i just turned on the phone and it booted back up normally i dunno how this happened or if anyone else is in the same boat... i def screwed up this phone and it somehow recovered itself... or im just an UBER NOOB about this =(
hope u guys are enjoying the phone! =)
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*sigh*
i was one of those trigger happy people who tried to root and didnt realize i was using the i9300....
basically i have to wait till there is a ROM available for the SGH-T999 to FIX my mistake?
used odin3 v1.85
used CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3.tar
ALSO (super fail) had the option for partition checked
soooooo the phone only boots up to the screen that was black...
i left my phone off and turned off everything .... i just turned on the phone and it booted back up normally i dunno how this happened or if anyone else is in the same boat... i def screwed up this phone and it somehow recovered itself... or im just an UBER NOOB about this =(
hope u guys are enjoying the phone! =)
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WOW, you go lucky! Good deal for you!
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wasya152 said:
I love the hardware of this phone, but really hate touchwiz and miss the ics from my nexus. How long before a working Rom, preferably milestone, is out
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Try Apex Launcher in the meantime...it is awesome!
Ditto. ICS, without any other added skins, is the best way to go. I bet somewhere like 5% of android users have gotten a chance to evaluate a plain ICS version. If they did, they would realize that it is every bit as good as any iOS product. It's really too bad. If I am Google, priorties #1,2, and 3 would be to make sure that everyone gets a plain ICS version, somehow, some way. Not continuing forward with jelly bean and key lime pie. ICS is already far enough ahead of iOS feature-wise. It's feature-complete. They need to take a play out of Apple's playbook and perfect--no, I mean absolutely perfect--the software that they have now. Nobody seems to get that this is how Apple operates. They have far, far less features, but the ones they do have, work very well. They're apparently willing to do the dirty work and squash little bugs and bug crashes. They are not smarter than everyone else; but they apparently have a company culture that values the details. This is all that they do, but it works.
A lot of people seem to dislike TouchWiz, what did they take out of stock ICS, or change for the worse? I'm trying to figure out if it would make sense to flash an ICS rom if/when it becomes available.
As someone mentioned try apex. Or trebuchet. There are quite a few launchers that appear as if they are stock android, then that just leaves individual apps and settings menus skinned with touchwiz.
It's been out a day and you're asking when there'll be ROMs for this phone? Really? I'd suggest you check back in a month and things will have started by then.
~SB
I really enjoyed using ICS on my HTC Desire before switching to S3, and I don't really dislike using TouchWiz. I don't really see what the big deal is with TouchWiz, it seems pretty cool to me
Never ask for ETA's! Lol
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
balintmaci said:
smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.
Less than 10 posts so I have to post here!! Thanks to ANYBODY that had a hand in CM10!!! Installed CM10 a3 coming from the latest Eclipse. The only issue I had was google now crashing. Got the latest google search from jsgraphicart post# 1257 in the Development thread. Also used VideoCam Illusion for camcorder. ADW and Apex launchers killed my battery so I went back to stock. Loving Jelly Bean!! :good:
Loved A3, but not matter what I did, it killed the battery in just a couple of hours, so I had to go back to Eclipse.
i also love cm10, i just flashed back to eclipse 2.3 last night and have been thinking about an sbf all day. i mean, if you arent a heavy user, and you dont use many or ANY apps, cm10 runs very well.
I was pretty much forced to go back to CM10 from Eclipse. I was running a2 for a while, but couldn't deal with my apps crashing on me all the time. Lots of games, e-mail and Facebook, and a few others.
But, after a couple months with Eclipse... man, my phone was crashing a MINIMUM of twice a day due to the memory hitting a wall. I jump around a lot, going from facebook to a few games to mail within a half-hour or so. For whatever reason, Eclipse just wouldn't clear RAM properly, and it would force-reboot constantly.
Got sick of it and switched to a3, and gotta say I'm so much happier. I mean, I never disliked CM10, just the crashing was driving me nuts. But, I figure a crashed app on occasion is WAY better than a force-reboot. Plus, I found a post about an app that fixes the Google crashing issue.
Now, if only there were fixed apps for Gmail and Facebook...
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I was pretty much forced to go back to CM10 from Eclipse. I was running a2 for a while, but couldn't deal with my apps crashing on me all the time. Lots of games, e-mail and Facebook, and a few others.
But, after a couple months with Eclipse... man, my phone was crashing a MINIMUM of twice a day due to the memory hitting a wall. I jump around a lot, going from facebook to a few games to mail within a half-hour or so. For whatever reason, Eclipse just wouldn't clear RAM properly, and it would force-reboot constantly.
Got sick of it and switched to a3, and gotta say I'm so much happier. I mean, I never disliked CM10, just the crashing was driving me nuts. But, I figure a crashed app on occasion is WAY better than a force-reboot. Plus, I found a post about an app that fixes the Google crashing issue.
Now, if only there were fixed apps for Gmail and Facebook...
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This was brought up a while ago in the CM10 thread. Apparently the Blacked out Facebook app doesnt force close. I dont use Facebook so I never tried it. But you can get it here:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/b-...er-popular-apps-blacked-out-mar-8th-13-a.html
As far as Gmail, I'm not sure if anyone found a working one. But I think Gmail on the web works good.
I thought I saw that a while back, but couldn't find it again when I was looking for it. Thanks for that. I'll also have to give in-browser Gmail a shot, makes sense that it shouldn't close like the app does.
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Black app is a no-go. I had it force-crash on me twice already. Oh well...
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I thought I saw that a while back, but couldn't find it again when I was looking for it. Thanks for that. I'll also have to give in-browser Gmail a shot, makes sense that it shouldn't close like the app does.
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Black app is a no-go. I had it force-crash on me twice already. Oh well...
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Ah. I think I know why. They updated it to the newest version which I think is the problem. The same thing that happened with Google Now. I think one of the updates messed it up for the DX2. I'll try searching through the CM10 thread and see if anyone posted the old apk.
EDIT: Maybe this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36087163
Or maybe any of these versions (listed on the right hand side):
http://www.androiddrawer.com/2274/download-facebook-for-android-1-9-7-app-apk/#.UUN-W1toTpg
I'm just trying to find an old apk that might work for you.
I also like CM10 but the battery life scares me away every time, i use the DX2 as my main phone.
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I also like CM10 but the battery life scares me away every time, i use the DX2 as my main phone.
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i feel the same. after eclipse, cm10 goes to 50% after a half of a day with little to no use, and .... it is a very hard decision to make.
I haven't actually seen that much of a change in battery life between Eclipse and CM10. When I use them moderately, the battery life still plummets midway through the day, and if I don't use it at all, it will go two days on a charge. That much didn't change between them at all.
@jsgraphicart: You didn't have to do so much legwork, but I'm sure anyone who visits this thread that didn't see it before will appreciate it. I'll give those a try and report back which one (if any) works on our CM10.
I think I am done with eclipse for good. After a fresh install it will be very fast but over time it gradually begins to slow down and I get some processes that force close and some reboots. I also haven't noticed that much difference in battery life between eclipse and a3. Facebook hasn't crashed on me yet and I am on it many times during the day.
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Juice3250 said:
I think I am done with eclipse for good. After a fresh install it will be very fast but over time it gradually begins to slow down and I get some processes that force close and some reboots. I also haven't noticed that much difference in battery life between eclipse and a3. Facebook hasn't crashed on me yet and I am on it many times during the day.
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facebook from the play store?
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@jsgraphicart: You didn't have to do so much legwork, but I'm sure anyone who visits this thread that didn't see it before will appreciate it. I'll give those a try and report back which one (if any) works on our CM10.
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Its cool. I enjoy helping.
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
facebook from the play store?
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I restored facebook from tibu but I'm sure that I installed an update after.
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Its cool. I enjoy helping.
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Actually figured out what the problem is. Which, I knew it before, but forgot. 90% of the Black Facebook works on CM10. The part that doesn't? Groups pages and Events pages. Those continue to crash, because apparently they use something different for those.
So, while the regular portions of Facebook have not caused the app to crash, every time I go to Groups (which I do A LOT) causes it to CTD.