Rooting/Verizon queston - HTC Droid DNA

I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?

I'm actually s sprint employee and switched to Verizon today and the network is leaps and bounds ahead of the sprint network and the droid DNA is amazing to say the least
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Balian67 said:
I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
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Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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HOOKEDONDROID said:
Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?

I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.

Balian67 said:
For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
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The M7 doesn't have a 13 MP camera...Its based off Ultrapixels.
Verizon has great coverage compared to Sprint. It does depend on where you live so you might want to ask people you live around to see if Verizon gets good coverage where you work and live.
Also, if you buy your DNA from Amazon Wireless, its on sale for $50 for new contracts. Verizon also does a student discount if you are a college student or something. Verizon does charge a lot for its services compared to other places in the world, but it has one of the best networks(if not the best) in United States.

I didn't know that about the M7. However, I did read what ultra pixels are. Long story short the M7 will have 3 4.3MP sensors that collectively make a final result image that is supposed to have better color and image reproduction. Sounds interesting none-the-less.
Article: http://www.technocrates.org/what-are-ultrapixels/

subprime said:
I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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This is the same exact argument I am trying to use with my dad. We are paying 205 (including taxs and fees) on sprint for a 2G (15+ yr old) and 3G (8+ yr old) technology and network. It would only make sense to pay the 230 + Tax and Fees

I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.

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I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Ha tell me about it, I'm trying to remain optimistic that a fix will come about.

Sprint data doesn't compare.
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New Photon feedback and info about new sprint 4g LTE network

I just got mine today and so far im very happy. The pentile display isn't at all noticeable (and im pretty nit picky). The rep did say that it appears that they've improved the screen on newer stock. I timed my purchase so that if the epic 4g touch (galaxy s 2) comes out next month as is expected then i should still be in the 30 day return policy.
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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jdverley said:
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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inimitableac said:
Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
I'm not 100% on a simple software upgrade but after LTE is put up wimax will still be around for a year or 2 after the fact so we won't be obsolete for that time frame...
If you are close to upgrading now, you shouldn't wait it will be awhile before they start releasing phones for LTE,
I work for sprint and we have got newsletters that Dan Hesse will announce our 4g lte plans in october.
Lightsquare is the company sprint signed the deal with
And more than that it will be a while before there is a wide LTE deployment anywhere but a major city. LTE isn't going to be a serious factor for most sprint customers for two years at least.
(I live in a city with one million people in the metro area and we still don't have WiMAX... I'm not holding my breath for 4g service anytime soon.)
One thing to keep in mind, is that Sprint could very well continue to make use of WiMAX alongside of LTE technology. WiMAX is PURELY for data, whereas LTE is used for both. There is no reason why LTE has to necessarily replace WiMAX.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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But from what I have read and have been corrected in another thread the LTE will be on 3 different spectrum's not just one like Verizon. There is some website that shows the hardware differences and stuff and in there is info on how they will implement LTE.
Snippet from http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219837
Currently, Sprint/Nextel/Clear has three different protocols on three different spectrum bands distibuted on 82,000 towers. By comparison, Verizon and AT&T have about 40,000 towers each. Network Vision will reduce the number of towers to around 45,000 to 50,000 towers, while setting up the remaining towers to handle all three spectrum bands (800 MHz, 1.9 GHz, and 2.5 GHz) and any protocol (CDMA, Wimax, LTE, etc). This will provide Sprint with substantial savings in maintenance costs.
No WiMax yet
In Omaha we don't even have WiMax yet, does this mean we never will and the Photon will never be more than a 3G phone?
I'm a.happy e3d owner but knowing that the photon is a world phone with gsm radios on top of cdma I have a question..now that you guys have an unlocked bootloader (congratulations) do you think its possible that the photon will be able to run on t mobile or at&t LTE bands or at least hspa+ That would be pretty sick knowing that Wimax on sprint is.pretty useless at least for me...
I'm a Sprint Product Launch Ambassador for the Photon 4G and a corporate Sprint Technician.
The Network is upgradable, but the phones are not. Choose to upgrade today and I'll bet you a fiver you'll be up for upgrade again by the time LTE is actually flipped on.
The Network Vision equipment is so modular, that multiple technologies can be run in one single Base Station. Easy to upgrade, switch out, and plenty of slots to run LTE + Wimax concurrently.
I highly doubt our network engineers are going to get a mandate that states shut down Wimax on X day, and leave all users out in the cold with those devices. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It will be just like the current migration of Iden, those who choose to move over to CDMA on their next upgrade can do so, those who choose not to (that NEED PTT as a requirement) will have the option to use the new Direct Connect Network when they are ready to upgrade phones later...as it's easier to just drop the Iden line of Phones and carry the next gen CDMA Nextel line in it's place for upgraders to choose from. Something that will give us a 2 year buffer for those clinging to the PTT service as a must before it's shut down completely...but by then, no one will have not had the opportunity during an upgrade to choose CDMA totally or the new CDMA PTT services.
So, that means those cities that don't already have WiMax will still get it on schedule in spite of the move to LTE?
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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You really shouldn't let 4g be the deciding factor. I have 4g where I live and I don't even use it once a month. 4g is a battery hog. Besides even if it wasn't and you were putting 4g to good use on Verizon your bill would be through the roof.
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dustbuckets said:
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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dustbuckets said:
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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I can count on my thumb how many times I have switched on 4G on my Photon the last two weeks.

[Q] Just got my Sprint termination letter

I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
ianoob said:
I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
were you using prl 00001?
ianoob said:
No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
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I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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were you using prl 00001?
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No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
jgalan14 said:
I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
sillymeboy said:
1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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Lucky
ianoob said:
No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
Lucky
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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jgalan14 said:
Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Loved that little phone lol. They lost a customer by telling me that, maybe they didn't want somebody who actually used their unlimited data to keep it... 8gb with my Eris probably would wind up as more with a phone that supported flash. No idea what I'd be using with the 3d since I never had a signal.
What about Boost (owned by sprint but just bought a new home)? Their website is vague, do they care if I roam?
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
darksideauto said:
I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I lived in Iowa City until August, brother in law lives in Clinton and his is the phone staying there. Thanks for the reminder!
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
rstuckmaier said:
Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Yeah, was the 1st I thought of, but they don't cover Cincinnati
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Looks like Best Buy has the Sensation for free. I'll pocket a $140 each giftcard for my 3D, or I could sell it to Gazelle for $170 or try e-bay?
Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
i know its not the new 3G one. im using that. I have my old samsung sprint airave 1x. iwould be willing to sell if the price is right. its like new. pm me if your interested.
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Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
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the fine print on the contract say's 300mb roaming data per month. if you're worried about it, download something like juice defender that will choke your data usage or set your data to wifi only whenever you're not on sprint's towers.
I just didn't care. been with sprint since june when the 3d came out. was in iowa then and they promised it would be better when i moved here. moved in august and it was worse lol. they agreed to waive my etf, i just been waiting for a deal elsewhere.
funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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Thanks for the input, I was contemplating Cinci Bell but their customer service sucks and I will travel back to Iowa 4-5 times a year. That and the Sensation is way better than any phones they have LOL (especially at $99). Now trying to decide if I should wait another two weeks for the Amaze since I have 30 days.
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Will verizon"s plans harm us?

So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
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So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
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Not really sure, however, Sprint offers unlimited data, Verizon doesn't, and Verizon is still the #1 in the U.S. So, what that says, is Sprint is lacking other major areas: spotty Wimax, no 4G LTE yet, poor phone line up. My experience is Sprint offers more for less, but, that's not enough to keep people from jumping ship.
I guess what I'm getting at, is how can this really hurt Sprint any more?
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
krayziejoe said:
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
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I'd do the same, however, I'd blow through the data limit. I have no issues with my 3G service (although it's less than desirable in speed) or my reception (until I go in to Wal-Mart, lol!). 4G/Wimax sucks. I wouldn't be able to afford Verizon. My bill would easily increase by 50%.
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE.
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I don't think we have anything to worry about. Sprint can afford to keep unlimited data because their data speeds are 5 times slower than other carriers.
Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
I don't think Verizon's plan will harm us per say . I actually think that it will drum up a little business for Sprint with them finally having a good summer lineup of phones and being cheaper. However I believe the next year to year and a half will either make or break Sprint. I for one waited patiently for the promise of wimax now like 90% of Sprint subscribers I'm still waiting for Wimax and or waiting for LTE. There will come a time soon when I'll get tired of promises and ditch them for another network even if it costs more. I'm not a speed junky but the 2/3g towers are so overburdened it's a joke in the 12 states i've been to I've never EVER gotten more then 1.2 megs with wimax or 3g while my sister in law's crappy old og droid opens 2-3 webpages while I'm waiting on one.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
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I hope you are correct, the more i read about network vision and the different bandwidths etc the more confused i get
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I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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Ditto. According to the upgrade map on Sprint's site, every tower around my house has been upgraded, yet I still drop calls and get a max of 100kbps on 3g, even with full bars.
I am really struggling to find a reason to stay with Sprint. Sure it is great to have unlimited everything, but if I can't even place a phone call out of my kitchen, what's the value?
I'm waiting for the sgs3 to drop, if dev is the same for Sprint and Verizon. Then bye-bye Sprint.
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I'm glad im not the only one that feels this way. I pay $70/month for crappy service. I could be paying $80-85 and have great service. I think that's well worth the extra money.
Sprint has really dropped the ball. I got my evo 4g it was the best out. They followed with the evo 3d and was still good. Everything since then has been dissappointing. The new evo 4g lte is far from good enough to make me sign a new contract. They never even got the 4g working that well in my area, even though its supposed to be. Not signing a new contact in a few weeks when my old one is up for their broken promises
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Newklearx3 said:
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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i switched to the 0002 prl about two days ago and it's the best thing i've ever done lol
As mentioned their plan won't hurt us because we have a crappy network. Verizon can switch things up because their network actually performs. I can't switch because of those outrages prices and I'm pretty sure I would burn through a gig of data.
From the comments I read it seems like this move by Verizon may land Sprint and ATT some customers.
verizons plan will lose out on customers and bring more to other networks as said earlier in the thread. but it really depends on where you live, alltel and sprint have the better signals around here. plus you just cant beat unlimited data

Need Input: Possibly Switching To Sprint

Hi, I have a couple questions. I currently am with US Cellular with an Electrify. I was thinking of switching to Sprint, but was wondering how cell service is, Internet Speed, just overall view and experience with Sprint. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks
Service is damn good. Internet speed where i live, not so much. Im lucky to get over 200kbs on 3g but i mean, everything loads just fine. The only time you notice is when you are literally downloading something. Other than that, ive been with sprint for 6 years now and im satisfied. Ive never had any real issues. Having never had us cellular though im not sure how to compare the two.
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Talk to people in your area and see what their service and speeds are like. In my area I'm averaging 170kbps on 3G for the past year. This is slower than what I got ten years ago on Sprint using a flip phone and 230k hack. Other than that, voice service is good.
The only reason I'm still on Sprint is cost vs data usage. If a GSM carrier offered the same amount of data at the same cost I'd drop Sprint in a heartbeat.
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Im lucky to get over 200kbs on 3g
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That's like here which is not much better than 1xRTT.
I would what for LTE phones and service in your area, before signing a 2year contract.
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Thanks for the input
sprint is awesome
I have been with sprint for a year now n never had any problems. I love the photon. In my area(Kansas city) I get around 2mbps on 3g, never used my phone on 4g yet so not sure boot those speeds. I don't get 4g at my house. But I would definitely recommend joining sprint. I love the unlimited data on my rooted photon. I use close to 60gb of data per month. U can't do that with anyother company.
Like mention before check for feedback with people in your area, Im also one of the unlucky ones to get bad 3g about 180kps when Im lucky. However I talked on the phone for hours with sprint yesterday and I can tell you theyre great at customer service and one of the guys that I spoke to confimed that sprint is updating alot of their towers across the US including many around my area. Hopefully yours is already good.
I love sprint i get 1-2 mbps everywhere i go and always hae service when no one does ALWAYS I LOVE IT
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BHermes21 said:
I was thinking of switching to Sprint, but was wondering how cell service is, Internet Speed, just overall view and experience with Sprint. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks
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I have been with Sprint for over 10 years now, while I am satisfied with the service in general, I wouldn't I say I am happy.
The reason is, their prices....yes their prices. They charge $70 a month for unlimited everything. Fine! It is a great deal compared to the other carriers.
However, their speeds suck, really suck. Some users are lucky enough to be near a good coverage site, but I regularly get between 50Kbps & 250Kbps.
Plus they have the BS $10 charge for Premium Data....what Premium Data? Heck, I can't even get normal data where I live & work. I get stuck sending messages using GVoice, market won't open up. If I switch to WiFi everything will work just fine.
Anyway, the reason I stuck with Sprint was they offered me a huge monthly discount on my bill to move to a smartphone (in Dec. 2010). Plus, their LTE network should be up in 2013 and they are decommissioning their IDEN network and re-purposing the spectrum for LTE (or so I've read).
Their unlimited everything plan is great for people who really use a lot of data and have good coverage. For people like me, who barely use 200MB/month its a waste, if I leave data sync on 24/7 I might push 750MB....that's it. If they had tiered data plans, I would switch to that in an instant.
In any case, if you are happy at US Cellular, there is no need to switch. Wait and see how all of this plays out.
Also, call them and ask for incentives to switch over to them. First month free, 20%-25% off etc. You may not get it the first time but call every few weeks and see if you get lucky, especially near the end of the year.
Good Luck!
I get about 2mbits down and 1 up. Best network speeds around my area. Uscc is just a tiny bit slower than that in the same area.
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I have been with sprint for at least 6 years, maybe more. Don't really remember when I first signed up with them. I have not really had much problems with them. Their customer service has only gotten better since I first signed up, however I liked their old phone upgrade plan better than this new one.
I don't get 4g at my house, but that doesn't bother me much because 3g works pretty well, and I almost always have wifi available.
BHermes21 said:
Hi, I have a couple questions. I currently am with US Cellular with an Electrify. I was thinking of switching to Sprint, but was wondering how cell service is, Internet Speed, just overall view and experience with Sprint. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks
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im from north central iowa had sprint for less than a year, no 3g just 1x and no plans on 3g for atleast 2 years, was in roam allot, so sprint and i decided to part ways, back with us cellular and very happy with speeds and coverages. just my 2 cents

thinking about switching from Sprint

I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Sprint and what phone features do you loose with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. Have you switched and are you glad?
Haha with sprint for 13 years? Life must suck for you.
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Not really, I just want better rural area coverage and faster data speeds. It's been hard to give up unlimited data @ 99/month but paying for 4G that isn't in my area has been pissing me off. It looks like there is more development on the Sprint phone roms.
Look on eBay for verizon unlimited data you can get a line for around 200$ but you also have to pay full price for a phone so it will be about $900 total for a gs4 with unlimited data.
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I moved from sprint for the GS4. Of course it depends on your location but for me it's been a night and day difference. Sprint was pathetically slow.
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Do it. Going from sprint to Verizon is like going from 56k dial up to road runner lightning. It really is just like that actually now that I think about it. Sprints 3g is lucky to hit 100kb/s in my area and I do 30-50mbps on Verizon in most areas. It's worth the money. It was for me
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Agreed. It's been a few years since I've had sprint but oh my gawd was it awful. It only lasted about 8 months though thank goodness.
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Go Verizon. Ive been with every carrier out there except at&t...which I will stay away like the plague. Verizon has the TRUE coverage that nobody else can come close to. You get what you pay for...
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Just left Sprint due to crappy coverage - also live in rural area. Verizon tower is 2 mi from my house, plus I get 4G! Could barely get 1 bar in my living room with Sprint. Luckily I was able to force roaming on my last phone for 2 yrs! I'm surprised Sprint didn't cancel my contract ) . BTW - I did try their "Airave" to boost coverage........swapped it out twice (malfunctions with msgs), finally turned that in as well. Verizon is not perfect, but much better coverage!
Lol... Sprint... I had Sprint for a couple weeks and it was the worst service i've ever had under contract. Cricket was the only service that was slower. Luckily i was able to get out of the contract in enough time. I can't say anything for sure about visual voicemail, but why would you think "Verizon" didn't have google maps? I don't think i've ever had an android phone, even on cricket, that didn't have google maps. Or am i not understanding the question properly.
Sprint was about 300kb/s at my work with atleast 10 dead spots around the building (Worse at home). Verizon is 25-36mb/s with out any dead spots
I also switched from Sprint. Speeds were terrible, and I hated it.
Now, speeds are great, but I have a stupid cap. I also lost Google Voice integration which makes me really sad, but I think I'll get over it.
I said I'd never leave Sprint but here I am. I can't stand Verizon because of the way they do things. Locking their phones down and this damn data share thing. 2gb of data for $60? Yeah....sounds like a good deal to me!!! NOT!! They do have the best coverage though and my wife has them so here I am.
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I was in the same boat. I have been with Sprint since 1997. Switched from the Nexus S 4G (paying for 4G for the last 2 years that has never come and is not even on the road map last time I looked). Switched to the Galaxy S4 on Verizon. It is amazing the difference.
Between the phone and the network, I am able to play Ingres (at a reasonable speed without taking 45 - 60 seconds to deploy a resonator), check in to four square locations within seconds, etc.
I would definetly recommend it.
I've been with all 4 major Carriers in the USA. Sprint is the worst when it comes to call service & data speeds. Verizon is the best in my experience. It's more expensive but you get what you pay for. I get excellent service everywhere. Fast 4G LTE at my house. But you also give up things when you move to Verizon. No more unlimited data so you gotta watch your data usage with that LTE. Locked Bootloaders so depending on what phone you have on Verizon, development might not be so great. And another annoying gripe is that consistent Wi-Fi notification instead of a quick toggle in the notification bar. But it's all on you. If you don't plan to root your phone or you don't use that much data then Verizon is the best service in my experience. T-Mobile rolled out LTE in my state already so I'm considering going back to them. I never had problems with their service when I use to be with them.
I left Sprint for Verizon, couldn't be happier!
Left sprint 2 days ago for S4 on Verizon, world of difference already, data speeds are MUCH better! Unlimited is great with Sprint but I don't have the time to use unlimited data when you get under 100kb or less on 3g! My 4G stays on all the time with Verizon!
I left Sprint the day the s3 was released. I have never looked back. Unlimited data is no good when you can't access data. (My s2 worked Great on wifi). Took it to Vegas, where they had the old WiMax 4g. I was in and out so much, it destroyed my battery.
Until Verizon,I thought mobile internet was just crap.
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Switched from Sprint yesterday and already know I made the right decision, ETF and all. Unlimited is a misnomer when thr limit is the network itself.
Jump ship and don't look back!
bndfishing said:
I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Sprint and what phone features do you loose with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. Have you switched and are you glad?
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I've made the switch myself about a year and a half ago. Best thing I could have ever done, however it is a bit more price wise but it's well worth it. Coverage and data is excellent.
VZW has their own navigation program but Google Maps is still available to download and use. There is no proprietary visual voice mail, but there's a ton of apps you can download to fix that.
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Haha with sprint for 13 years? Life must suck for you.
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Making fun of someone you don't know on a forum solely on their choice of carrier? Life must suck for you.
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