Hey guys,
anyone know why issit that when I use a usb extension cable, altho only 0.8m, to connect to a usb 2 port hub, which is connected to a charger, the charging rate drops to trickle rate?
When I use the charging hub directly with the charger, charging rate was fine.
Is this due to the 0.8m resistance power drop along the extension cable, or what?
Would it be the same if I use a 90 degree usb male to female adapter?
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Is there a program/driver that will allow the leo to pull more than 500mA when connected via usb? My TP2 (CDMA) has this installed and its bad ass. I can charge faster off things like a cable box (or my computer) than the wall. It pulls ~928mA.
Right now I have a Y adapter.. I plug the power only usb into the computer and the data into an external source (like a duracell powersource mobile). tBattery reads "AC" for charger input. Then, I unplug from the powersource and plug the data part of the usb Y into the computer, hopefully forcing it to switch to usb mode while retaining high current draw. No dice, its still on AC.. and the data cable is not communicating with the computer/phone. If i were to unplug the power only cable, it would probably switch right over to usb mode and WMDC would pop up and all that. But.. I would be limited to 500mA, which is.. really weak since the phone can only use about 150 of that for charging!
Charge with your phone off may help?
That is not possible, because PC can't give more than 500mA on one USB port.
Check in Windows device manager (PC) and find Generic USB Hub. Then look on "Power" tab.
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You can't. You could burn USB port in your computer.
Mike
This is a screenshot taken from my touch pro 2.. Plugged into the usb port of my laptop. This is possible. It also is possible with my cable box. It requires a driver/app from nuerom..
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/po...g-nueBattery2-For-TP2-CDMA-v12-Build-122.aspx
btw.. ports are either in high power or low power.. 500mA should really say 500mA+... Some ports are NOT capable of doing this.. I'd imagine I could trigger the same by connecting devices to all three of my usb ports on my laptop.
many gigabyte mainboards have the function to deliver 3x more power through usb ports. ive tested myself and can only confirm it is charging within 1.5~ 2 hours completely
Yeah - maybe, but if... higher charging amperage causing battery/phone overheating and dramaticly shorting battery life. I know, that dedicated HTC HD2 charger having 5V and 1A (1000 mA), but this is TRAVEL charger and should be used only in this situation by reasons previously wroted by me. I charge my LEO only with PC.
i think it depends on the charger itself. i bought a docking station and while reading the manual i came across a switch that changes the mode between "charge" and "sync"
this lets your device acknowledge that the charger is capable of providing more mA than a normal USB port so that it can draw more power.
The ac charger (or the battery driver itself) is smart enough to trickle down the charge rate as the battery reaches maximum capacity. We have an aluminum battery cover that seems to have a heat pad to transfer that heat from the battery. The battery driver probably has provisions to stop charging if batt temp reaches a certain #.
500mA charge is not enough. The phone itself is able to draw more current than a 500mA line could provide.
I just plugged a y adapter into my laptop. Plugging only the power portion in. tBattery says USB for charger input.. Taking the data/power 'part' of the Y adapter cable and plugging it into a usb power source (with no data pins, like a duracell powersource mobile) puts the phone into ac charger input. I disconnect the duracell charger and leave only the phone plugged into my y adapter to my computer... still says AC charging.
I'm now able to charge the phone using 1 computer usb port. World doesn't end. Phone doesn't explode.
Pictures are worth a thousand convoluted paragraphs.
Is there a difference between charging with the supplied wall charger and charging using a micro USB cable attached to a desktop or laptop?
Slight difference -- the supplied wall charger charges at 600ma. USB charging from a PC maxes at 450ma so it isn't quite as fast. 3rd party chargers may be detected as USB and cause a slower charge rate too, so watch out for that.
Either way, you'll get charged. USB is definitely slower though.
Hello
As you know, our device doesnt get charged by the USB cable it comes with (or veeeeeery slow).
As I have a solar charging device with USB slots, I need a compatible USB cable. Somehow it has to work, is there some converter or something ?
Thanks!
Dominik
Eh? My device charges just fine with the included cable.
You will have trouble charging it from a solar powered USB charger as I'm guessing it will only put out 5V at maybe 500mA. That's not enough to juice the TF. It's not the cable though.
Because ASUS used a USB connector on its cable, unfortunately does *not* mean this USB connector 100% follows the specifications for USB.
It has a trick, whereby, when connecting to your PC it works like USB at 5v. But, when connecting to a 15v charger it switches to use 15v instead.
The TF charging indicator, and Android OS battery settings, only indicate charging when 15v applied. At 5v it may trickle charge with screen & wifi & ??? turned OFF. I never try charging at 5v because it is too slow.
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I don't think it charges at all at 5v?
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I don't think it charges at all at 5v?
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It will, provided you have the amperage. But its only trickle so its only really charging with the screen off and charges slower than the tablet uses battery.
I'm trying to reduce how many cables and plugs I use. Currently I charge my phone via micro usb, and was wondering if there is an accessory I can buy that will connect from my micro usb cable and into the Prime's proprietary port so I can charge my phone and tablet of a single plug (my phone overnight and then my tablet the next day). I'd much rather have a small adaptor sitting on my bedside table for when I need it than yet another wire trailing across the floor. My plug socket is tucked behind my bed so simply swapping the usb cable each time isn't really do-able.
Many thanks
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I'm trying to reduce how many cables and plugs I use. Currently I charge my phone via micro usb, and was wondering if there is an accessory I can buy that will connect from my micro usb cable and into the Prime's proprietary port so I can charge my phone and tablet of a single plug (my phone overnight and then my tablet the next day). I'd much rather have a small adaptor sitting on my bedside table for when I need it than yet another wire trailing across the floor. My plug socket is tucked behind my bed so simply swapping the usb cable each time isn't really do-able.
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it is do-able if you used a male to female usb adapter. Then you could just plug in the cable you need to charge with.
I have not seen a micro female usb to full size male? I have seen full size to micro.
You could always get a powered USB hub aswell and have both plugged in. I though I read somewhere that the prime charges best when plugged into the wall though.
I'm going to guess your phone charges at ~5v and the prime will want ~12v (link) ...
There are some reports that 5v will "charge" a transformer, but I'm skeptical ...
More than likely 5v would be more of a trickle charge at a slower rate.
@Tomlilley What did you end up doing?
@copc Interesting idea regarding the powered USB hub. Would the following configuration be possible: TF plugged into a power USB hub and charging, an external HD plugged into the power USB hub with the TF accessing the external HD?
Doesn't USB max out at 5v and Prime is 15v by default (it looks like it charges at 12v as well).
Has anyone tried a USB female to female gender changer on the charging cable to hookup a thumb drive or controller?
Yep, tried a USB 2.0 and 3.0 adapter. No dice.
Damn! I really don't like that bulky usb adapter. I have a fear of breaking my port. The cable is bad enough.
You can build your own: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102049
At the end of the thread there are some photos of USB adapter board and the list of components you need.
EDIT: Found some pinout schema: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19566215&postcount=35
Hello,
I read that the USB to charge the ATP is a USB3.0.
On my desktop, I have such a plug. Do you think that it will charge at standard ASUS rate?
My USB 3.0 is on an quick-pci + molex connector, so it is powered by the desktop power-supply, so it should deliver the proper 15v, shouldn't it?
has anyone tried?
I routinely charge my Prime from my HP laptop's USB port. It takes a bit longer then the wall plug, but I do it at night when I am asleep, so it isn't a problem.
Bear in mind that your standard USB port delivers a limited amount of current. You can overdraw the usb port power supply and burn it out. I did this on an older dell POS c-series laptop by attaching 3 usb powered external hdd's simultaneously. Zorch, no more power to USB ports. That was a drag, luckily it was a company supplied POS laptop so the help desk sent me another. Rember that theTP is going to be trying to draw three times the charging current at 5 volts that it does at 15. Unless Asus made it smart enough to realize that its connected to a computer rather than its wall wart. I don't know. But I'm leary of USB charging.