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This part of the forum is covered in different charging issue threads due to it being such a prominent feature. Things ranging from model numbers, overheating, not working at all and only working intermittently.
I thought I would attempt to build a thread of the issues we Transformer owners are experiencing and seeing if anyone can really get to the bottom of this.
From what I have picked up from the forums many people are getting bad responses from Asus support, either providing no help at all or asking for the entire tablet+dock+charger at the users expense for shipping.
Common problems outline
[1]The brick gets very hot and stops charging
[2] The contacts between the brick and country adapter (e.g. USA/UK/EU) don't contact properly.
[3] The brick refuses to work altogether for no obvious reason.
Solutions attempted
[1] Bending the two contacts between the brick and country adapter slightly away from the brick (1 - 2mm)
[2] Calling (a somewhat unhelpful so far) Asus and asking for replacement
[3] Preserving (Not very Fun)
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The problems I am experiencing myself are basically that the charger works sometimes perfectly and other times not at all.
I can plug my charger in sometimes and it will work fine, others I can plug it in and my TF doesn't indicate charging although it does charge just VERY VERY slowly (about 2% every 25min).
Heat has not been an issue for me as it has been for many, my charging cable doesn't got warm at all and the brick is never alarmingly warm, nowhere near as hot as my laptop charger gets and the Asus charger is only 5V less than my laptops charger.
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Model numbers have been spoken about but so far I cannot find any evidence that they are different from one another, a known fault with 0B-LF so issues reported to Asus with that model should be find, but as far as I can tell problems with these power bricks happen across all the models (0B-LF, 0B-1LF, 0B-2LF)
If your having issues with your power brick post them below so we can try to keep them all in one place and hopefully try and resolve this.
As you are in the UK i'm not sure if this would apply to you but from my personal experience, i've had situations where the charger itself would be quite warm to the point where up close you can smell that aroma of overheating electronics. The charger has also refused to charge even when not hot, but will work once again after i've taken it off the mains and let it sit.
The american outlets differentiate between the hot and neutral leads via the larger and smaller prongs. I read in another thread concerning polarity and surface charges that when the charger is plugged in with the prong on the A side of the ASUS logo towards the larger (neutral) hole, then the charger will work properly. This has been my experience. I've come to a personal conclusion that the design of the charger is such that it is pole-sensitive but asus didn't bother to tell anyone which prong goes where, hope that might be of some use to you.
lacrossev said:
As you are in the UK i'm not sure if this would apply to you but from my personal experience, i've had situations where the charger itself would be quite warm to the point where up close you can smell that aroma of overheating electronics. The charger has also refused to charge even when not hot, but will work once again after i've taken it off the mains and let it sit.
The american outlets differentiate between the hot and neutral leads via the larger and smaller prongs. I read in another thread concerning polarity and surface charges that when the charger is plugged in with the prong on the A side of the ASUS logo towards the larger (neutral) hole, then the charger will work properly. This has been my experience. I've come to a personal conclusion that the design of the charger is such that it is pole-sensitive but asus didn't bother to tell anyone which prong goes where, hope that might be of some use to you.
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I never have had my charger get hot enough to smell like burning. The only way so far of resolving the issue is leaving my charger unplugged for about 20 min+ and then reconnecting it to my TF.
You forgot the "stick the brick in the freezer" trick.
Not kidding, it worked like a champ for me and a few others.
Put the brick in ziplock bag and stick it in the freezer.
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You forgot the "stick the brick in the freezer" trick.
Not kidding, it worked like a champ for me and a few others.
Put the brick in ziplock bag and stick it in the freezer.
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You know you can achieve the same result by just letting it sit without being plugged anywhere between 20 - 30 minutes. Just in case you don't want to put it in the freezer anymore.
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You know you can achieve
the same result by just letting it sit without being plugged anywhere between 20 - 30 minutes. Just in case you don't want to put it in the freezer anymore.
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Yeah that's what I have been doing, if I plug in my TF and it won't charge I just leave it unplugged for about half an hour and then plug it in again but this is a bit of a pain. Could really do with a better solution.
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Today my TF is refusing to charge at all. It trickle charges from the charger but this takes forever, its gone up 2% in just over 30mins. I'm not sure what to try now.
I have plugged it into charge, didn't work, left it unplugged for 20mins, plugged back in, wouldn't charge, left it unplugged for an hour, plugged back in, wouldn't charge, left it to trickle charge because it only had 1% battery.
I'm not sure what to try now, I might have to call Asus after I go on holiday.
Seems my charger will only trickle charge now, I cant get it to charge properly whatever I try. Maybe I should put it in the freezer for 20mins and see what it does......
If you do the freezer trick, let the adapter sit out UNPLUGGED for a short while.
Introducing heat can result in condensation (water) and we all know water and electronic bits don't get along that well.
Vendors are starting to get stock in spare chargers these days. I just got one in last week. Never had problems with the original yet, tho. The new one is going to the office where it will stay.
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If you do the freezer trick, let the adapter sit out UNPLUGGED for a short while.
Introducing heat can result in condensation (water) and we all know water and electronic bits don't get along that well.
Vendors are starting to get stock in spare chargers these days. I just got one in last week. Never had problems with the original yet, tho. The new one is going to the office where it will stay.
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Will do. I might have to order another charger if I get no luck with Asus support.
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Will do. I might have to order another charger if I get no luck with Asus support.
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Get a new one, and if it works normally, toss the original one in the box and exchange it at the place you purchased the second one at.
If ASUS won't replace it under warranty, the above will end up with them replacing it when the vendor returns it to them.
I've done some research and as far as I can tell the TF power brick operates in two modes, one is for lower powered 'ordinary' usb devices, such as my phone. This allows this charging brick to charge at 5v @ 2amps outputting a total of 10W.
The second option is primarily for when a TF is connected and runs at 15v @ 1.2amps outputting 18W.
My charging brick seems to charge my phone on the 5v mode fine, but when I connect my TF it isn't charging properly and takes ages, this leads me to believe that somewhere down the line my charging isn't connecting something somewhere and allowing for the 15v charging to take place.
Would I be right in saying this or am I talking all jibberish?
didge3 said:
I've done some research and as far as I can tell the TF power brick operates in two modes, one is for lower powered 'ordinary' usb devices, such as my phone. This allows this charging brick to charge at 5v @ 2amps outputting a total of 10W.
The second option is primarily for when a TF is connected and runs at 15v @ 1.2amps outputting 18W.
My charging brick seems to charge my phone on the 5v mode fine, but when I connect my TF it isn't charging properly and takes ages, this leads me to believe that somewhere down the line my charging isn't connecting something somewhere and allowing for the 15v charging to take place.
Would I be right in saying this or am I talking all jibberish?
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I'd agree. Something in the solid-state(a mosfet or IC) has crapped out due to heat, breaking the 15V section of the charger. Time for a new one. It's possible there's damage to pin 7 in the usb port, but heat-fry is much more likely.
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I'd agree. Something in the solid-state(a mosfet or IC) has crapped out due to heat, breaking the 15V section of the charger. Time for a new one. It's possible there's damage to pin 7 in the usb port, but heat-fry is much more likely.
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Yeah definately taking it back to retail store I bought it from, hopefully they will try it and just give me a new charger then and there.
Info I've gleaned, just in case it might assist someone:
1) I took delivery of an 0B-3LF charger today from ASUS UK, haven't seen any mention of the 3LF yet on XDA. It *appears* to generate less heat but that could just be a placebo effect.
2) Coincidentally, my 0B-2LF - which always got hot when charging dock+tablet simultaneously - failed last night. Unplugging it from the mains then replugging it did not fix it, even though it was cold to the touch by this point. Six hours after unplugging it from the mains, I tried again... the 0B-2LF started working, and continues to work. So if your charger fails, unplug it, give it six hours, then try it again - ideally before registering an RMA, otherwise you'll have to spend an extra half hour working out how to cancel the RMA (answer: email [email protected] with your RMA number, serial number and case reference).
My charger works whenever it feels like it wants to. I've been messing with it for the last 30-45 min with no luck. Unplugging the charger from the outlet, trying different outlets, unplugging and plugging back in the usb cable, with and without usb 3.0 extension, rotating the mains to switch the polarity, pushing out the prongs for the country adapter, widening the opening in the prongs, banging the charger, letting it sit and nothing is working. Just now it turned on, but right after the boot screen, it made the low power chime and died.
Seems like the problem is getting worse. Before when it first stopped charging it was really easy to get it charging again.
Also my father got the TF within the same week i got mine. He went overseas and came back to visit again and his charger has no issues. But i did notice he keeps the USB 3.0 extension along with the usb cable all plugged into each other into the mains whereas I unplug mine and wrap them up when taking them along.
Think that might have something to do with it?
my charger is a 0b-1LF
maxh2005 said:
Info I've gleaned, just in case it might assist someone:
1) I took delivery of an 0B-3LF charger today from ASUS UK, haven't seen any mention of the 3LF yet on XDA. It *appears* to generate less heat but that could just be a placebo effect.
2) Coincidentally, my 0B-2LF - which always got hot when charging dock+tablet simultaneously - failed last night. Unplugging it from the mains then replugging it did not fix it, even though it was cold to the touch by this point. Six hours after unplugging it from the mains, I tried again... the 0B-2LF started working, and continues to work. So if your charger fails, unplug it, give it six hours, then try it again - ideally before registering an RMA, otherwise you'll have to spend an extra half hour working out how to cancel the RMA (answer: email [email protected] with your RMA number, serial number and case reference).
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That's how mine started, but got worse. I only charge my tablet once a day and the charger is unplugged from the outlet between charges. Now I can't get it to charge. Every now and then if i unplug it and plug it back in, it'll boot up the TF but then the second the boot animation is over, makes the battery low chime, 0% remaining and shuts off!
Just got off the phone with asus tech support, they gave me an RMA number and i have to mail the charger to them to see if they can repair it.... whats up with that? why can't they just mail me a new one and i mail them back this broken one or get billed for it like every other tech company i've dealt with?
I've had the exact same issues as both of you. At first if it wouldn't charge I would leave it for a few mins and then it would charge straight away. It slowly got word and I had to fight with it more to get it to charge and now it will only trickle charge.
I will charge it up overnight tonight and leave it for six hours or more. Hopefully this will work until I can send it back.
(I'm not sure if i have mentioned this somewhere but my charger model number is 0B-1LF)
So I got an rma to send my charger to asus but I think I narrowed it down to the cable and not the charger. I tried my dad's charger and it works with that. Then I tried my cable on my dad's charger and no go, only trickle (5v) charge. Then tried my dad's usb cable on my charger and it worked. So I think it has something to do with the cable not telling the charger it needs 15v.
Going to call asus back tomorrow and see if they'll
Send me another cable.
asus rant: how come I have to pay to mail out my defective part and be without it while they repair or replace it? Every other company I've dealt with would send me the replacement and I would have to mail back the defective unit (using a prepaid label included) or be billed for it.
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fone_fanatic said:
So I got an rma to send my charger to asus but I think I narrowed it down to the cable and not the charger. I tried my dad's charger and it works with that. Then I tried my cable on my dad's charger and no go, only trickle (5v) charge. Then tried my dad's usb cable on my charger and it worked. So I think it has something to do with the cable not telling the charger it needs 15v.
Going to call asus back tomorrow and see if they'll
Send me another cable.
asus rant: how come I have to pay to mail out my defective part and be without it while they repair or replace it? Every other company I've dealt with would send me the replacement and I would have to mail back the defective unit (using a prepaid label included) or be billed for it.
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Maybe its my cable too, unfortunately I don't have another brick to try it on. Will have to just wait and see.
i was shopping for a oem Car dock that would work with our phones but also fit any case i wanted to put in the dock so heres the solution im ordering mine this week
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Vehicle-Car-Mount-Dock/dp/B008B0WNA6
Did you get it? How did it work out?
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I've seen this one on amazon, Kidigi usually makes good quality stuff and - as it looks - comes with the insert as well so it could be used w and w/o case
http://www.amazon.com/Car-Charger-M...2&keywords=kidigi+charging+car+dock+htc+one+x
...comparison with the price of the iBolt ...looks like the same device to me.
I've had the iBolt car dock for a few days now, and it's working fine. It's a little clunky compared to my old Atrix car dock. I don't have a case on my phone, and the clamp on the top seems to sit on top more than grab it, but the phone is snug in there.
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I've had the iBolt car dock for a few days now, and it's working fine. It's a little clunky compared to my old Atrix car dock. I don't have a case on my phone, and the clamp on the top seems to sit on top more than grab it, but the phone is snug in there.
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Have you had any charging issues with yours?
When it goes into car mode and navigation is on, it barely charges if at all.
I spoke with iBolt and they are sending me a new one. Hopefully this resolves the issue.
I am still curious if anyone else is having this issue.
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Have you had any charging issues with yours?
When it goes into car mode and navigation is on, it barely charges if at all.
I spoke with iBolt and they are sending me a new one. Hopefully this resolves the issue.
I am still curious if anyone else is having this issue.
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The issue isn't the charger but the USB cable not being shorted to put phone into AC charging. Pins 4&5 need to be shorted to allow this to happen. I ordered two of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007F1DV76/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
to go along with this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B2EFA0/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
and has allowed me to use the HOX+ for hours of navigation and still charge the phone.
For car dock I use this: http://www.slipgripcarmounts.com/SlipGrip-Vent-Holder-For-HTC-ONE-X-S720E-Using-Seidio-Surface-Case_p_130568.html
I agree that the ibolt is a little clunky but i love it. Its really sturdy. It stays in the position you locked it down at. It's easy to dock the phone with 1 hand. I havent noticed any charging issues but i'll keep an eye on that now that you mentioned it.
interesting
and to think i was going to try and mod my Atrix toys to see if i could make them work.. .this looks way easier, wonder why they dont include the proper cable in the first place or if there are any other docks similar
techcontrol said:
The issue isn't the charger but the USB cable not being shorted to put phone into AC charging. Pins 4&5 need to be shorted to allow this to happen. I ordered two of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007F1DV76/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
to go along with this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B2EFA0/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
and has allowed me to use the HOX+ for hours of navigation and still charge the phone.
For car dock I use this: http://www.slipgripcarmounts.com/SlipGrip-Vent-Holder-For-HTC-ONE-X-S720E-Using-Seidio-Surface-Case_p_130568.html
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Hello,
Well it's been quite some time but I didn't wanna open a new thread for this.
I'm using the iBolt dock for my HOX for quite some time and as told above it charges really really slow.
You might say it is caused by the cable, makes sense, but the charger I use to connect the iBolt is the geniune HTC car charger, which does charge the phone pretty fast.
Also, I exit car mode when I don't need it and turn the screen off in order to charge more, but it randomly and frequently turns the phone on. Sometimes just the Android homescreen but sometimes it re-launches the car app too. I was planning to call iBolt for this but I do not have much hope for getting detailed information about the output (actually the USB pin design) since there is no information about this on the web sites.
Can anyone confirm that it supports fast (normal) charging? It becomes useless beacuse of this issue.
You can easily check for yourself. While the phone is docked in-car, do the following: Settings>Power>verify that phone reports "Charging, (AC). If phone does not say this then you are in-fact charging at 500mA. The i-dock/HTC Charger must be capable of providing enough current to charge at 1A and phone must state it's in AC charging. If this is not the case, your phone will discharge while being used in-car.
I had the same issue of non-charging when I first got my phone in December. My research led me to the solution I previously posted. I do not use car-mode since the only app I use while driving is Waze. I hope this helps.
techcontrol said:
You can easily check for yourself. While the phone is docked in-car, do the following: Settings>Power>verify that phone reports "Charging, (AC). If phone does not say this then you are in-fact charging at 500mA. The i-dock/HTC Charger must be capable of providing enough current to charge at 1A and phone must state it's in AC charging. If this is not the case, your phone will discharge while being used in-car.
I had the same issue of non-charging when I first got my phone in December. My research led me to the solution I previously posted. I do not use car-mode since the only app I use while driving is Waze. I hope this helps.
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Late thanks =)
After writing that message it came to me too and checked it, though it was saying that it is AC charging but I can swear to anything, whether car mode or screen is on, or not, it is not charged in 1000mA mode.. When I directly charged it with the genuine charger, it was fine.
So bought a 2amp car charger, and used its cable, and it works fine now.
May be, the genuine HTC charger CABLE and the iBolt are not quite friendly with each other. I remember Nokia's not launching PC Suite when it was not a genuine Nokia cable, may be a trick like that. iBolt does not like genuine cables or genuine cable does not like oem "sockets"
Hey guys just wanted to share some of my frustrations. First off I love this phone and HTC products but I have the worst luck. I've had the DNA since release day as well as the nokia wireless charger. My first phone stopped charging via the wireless charger 3 weeks in. I tried switching power outlets and a master reset and the phone would still not charge from the pad. Took it in to a Verizon store and tested it on a known good wireless charger and would not charge so they sent me a replacement. That phone worked fine till a few days ago when it stopped charging from the wireless charger. I contacted Verizon and they sent me a replacement wireless charger and I tried it out today and it still won't charge. They are sending me out a replacement phone which is nice. I called HTC about my problem and told them everything that had happened and the woman told me that they don't support wireless charging, that it was third party, and as long as it charged from the wall there was nothing that could be done. Are any of you guys having problems like me?
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Hey guys just wanted to share some of my frustrations. First off I love this phone and HTC products but I have the worst luck. I've had the DNA since release day as well as the nokia wireless charger. My first phone stopped charging via the wireless charger 3 weeks in. I tried switching power outlets and a master reset and the phone would still not charge from the pad. Took it in to a Verizon store and tested it on a known good wireless charger and would not charge so they sent me a replacement. That phone worked fine till a few days ago when it stopped charging from the wireless charger. I contacted Verizon and they sent me a replacement wireless charger and I tried it out today and it still won't charge. They are sending me out a replacement phone which is nice. I called HTC about my problem and told them everything that had happened and the woman told me that they don't support wireless charging, that it was third party, and as long as it charged from the wall there was nothing that could be done. Are any of you guys having problems like me?
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I too am having intermittent problems. I assumed it was the nokia fatboy
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Sounds to me like the girl from HTC doesn't know what she's talking about how could they not support wireless charging when its built into the phone? That makes no sense.
Been using the DNA about 2 months using the LG wireless charger provided at Verizon stores with no problems at all so far and I only used the wall charger 3-4 times.
Could be an issue with the nokia charger causing the issue? I guess if that is the case we should see more complaining eventually.
I have had one replacement phone so far because wireless charging quit working. I too have been using the nokia 900. First phone quit charging wirelessly after 3 wks from release day. Had second phone since, still using same wireless charger and no more problems so far. Hope it stays that way!
I'm having a similar issue. I have the Nokia Fatboy pillow and used the charging with no problem for a few weeks. After that the phone recognizes the charger once I put it down but some random amount of time after that, it says it was disconnected and just stops charging until I pick it up and put it back on again. Very frustrating but noticed that it started right after I rooted my phone but not sure how that could be related.
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I have had one replacement phone so far because wireless charging quit working. I too have been using the nokia 900. First phone quit charging wirelessly after 3 wks from release day. Had second phone since, still using same wireless charger and no more problems so far. Hope it stays that way!
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This makes me feel better. I just bought the nokia dt-900 and my DNA was cycling between charging/disconnected. Went to VZW, tested my cell on another Qi charger and they are sending me a new DNA. Hope this does the trick.
I;m having no problems with charging with the orb. It's pretty awesome.
Got my replacement DNA, wireless charging now works perfectly.
kernel issue??
I know that zarboz' beastmode kernel just addressed many wireless charging issues, if you wanna check that out.
jas1784 said:
Hey guys just wanted to share some of my frustrations. First off I love this phone and HTC products but I have the worst luck. I've had the DNA since release day as well as the nokia wireless charger. My first phone stopped charging via the wireless charger 3 weeks in. I tried switching power outlets and a master reset and the phone would still not charge from the pad. Took it in to a Verizon store and tested it on a known good wireless charger and would not charge so they sent me a replacement. That phone worked fine till a few days ago when it stopped charging from the wireless charger. I contacted Verizon and they sent me a replacement wireless charger and I tried it out today and it still won't charge. They are sending me out a replacement phone which is nice. I called HTC about my problem and told them everything that had happened and the woman told me that they don't support wireless charging, that it was third party, and as long as it charged from the wall there was nothing that could be done. Are any of you guys having problems like me?
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I'd like to share my experience with wireless charging. I've had the DNA since mid December and bought my Fatboy at the end of December. This worked rock solid for 3 months or so, always charging to 100%. Then a couple of weeks ago, I started having problems. I would put my phone on the Fatboy and it would start charging, and then quit after a few minutes. This went on for a week and a half or so. Well, the day came when I was going to return my phone and Fatboy to a Verizon store. So right before I was about to leave, I decided to throw the phone on the charger and what do you know. It charged perfectly to 100%. The only thing, that I can think of, that changed was that I did an update to GSAM Battery monitor right before that. So now, for the past week and a half, my phone is charging great again. No issues. So if anyone is having issues and they have GSAM installed, maybe you should update it or uninstall it. I'm not sure if this is the issue but it's worth a try.
On another note. I think one of the best features of this phone is the built in wireless charging. I don't see this mentioned often when people compare the DNA to the HTC One. I like to use my phone without a case, because it looks so good, and the built in wireless charging is a feature I really like. It will always be one of the first things I look for when buying a new phone.
I agree with you on the wireless charging being a great feature. I have the Nexus Orb on my desk, and I bring it home with me and put it on my night table. It's perfect. Charges fast, no wires, my USB cover won't snap off, I can just grab it and run off to a meeting...
I wish all phones had Qi charging abilities more than NFC.
Had to get mine replaced under warranty after 6 months of use. My old thunderbolt still charges on the original LG WCP-7000 pad, but the DNA didn't last.
I've only ever had one possible problem with my Nokia wireless charger. I say possible problem because I'm not sure if it was actually a charger issue or my own stupidity. A few days ago, an hour after i had taken my phone of the charger, i looked at my phone and noticed it was almost dead. For some reason the phone hadn't been charged over night. I could swear it was on the charger, but i can't day for sure. So it could have been my fault.
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cojoda said:
I've only ever had one possible problem with my Nokia wireless charger. I say possible problem because I'm not sure if it was actually a charger issue or my own stupidity. A few days ago, an hour after i had taken my phone of the charger, i looked at my phone and noticed it was almost dead. For some reason the phone hadn't been charged over night. I could swear it was on the charger, but i can't day for sure. So it could have been my fault.
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bearda said:
Mine had slipping problems after cleaning, applying significant pressure, etc until I replaced it. The replacement unit has been much better, with no real problems. Some Orbs are definitely better than others when it comes to adherence, and if you're having an issue get it replaced.
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Here's my story:
I got the Nokia DT-900 few months back (Google's orb is not available in India) and had a tough time with my Nexus4, read so many forums on xda, androidcentral and elsewhere to find the right solution. Later realized that Nexus4 isn't fully Qi compatible. Still, from the forums I knew everyfrickinbody has some issue or the other, whether with the Nexus4 or any other Qi phone (like the Nokia Lumia 920, HTC droid, etc.).
Now my old guy, with a couple of other old ones have this high freq inductor/transformer making workshop and I told them I want us to make a wireless charger, and do it right! They said we ain't got the money - ha! I said I don't need no money, I just need ur tech and tools..ur brains and grains! With a grin, it was okay'd And 2 months in, we've got the Qi compatible electronics ready and tested!! Now we just gotta design a good form. We even have a name - Qitah (say cheetah)...hehe, yeah.
Here's are the pain points we've addressed uptil now:
a) Phone Alignment - it's a 3coil configuration that allows free positioning. After all, what's the point of a wireless charger if you still gotta put in effort for the phone to charge
b) Remembering to charge - we realized while brainstorming that the major pain point is not of plugging in a wire with your wall charger..in fact it's remembering to charge your phone daily. Even if I forget to charge once a week, it's kinda disastrous. We are really working hard and smart to tackle this
c) Looks - Apart from the orb, all the other solutions (mostly pads) are uhhgly!! And the orb is so painful with 'sticky' issues. Hey, if the Qitah is to sit on your office/home desk, it better look so frockin awesome yet unintrusive that you feel great about it!
d) Travel/Incline - it's pretty sad that we either have pads or inclines in the market. We are hell bent on coming up with a travel friendly design to get rid of this simple pain point.
Here's where I need all your help..tell us your pain points! tweet "@projecQitah", post on facebook - "projectQitah" and let us know what you want it to be like. I'll be following up on all suggestions/criticisms.
Cheers!
Ok so I am noticing a pattern here and that is Nokia chargers. I have been using an energizer charger for months without problems, although I have had my DNA switched out twice for other issues. I just bought 2 nokia wireless pads since AT&T was selling them crazy cheap, and yesterday was the first full day of use. At the end of the day I went to put my phone on my energizer wireless charger and the blue light (on the charger) turned on, then turned back off. I grabbed my nokia charger and the same thing happened.I have left it off wireless charger all night (plugged in usb) and it seems to be working now. If I have problems again tonight I may be blaming the Nokia charger. Has anyone else had wireless charging fail with a charger made by other than Nokia?
I've had the phone for most three months and have had no troubles with the energizer qi charger I've had for over a year. Use it every night to charge the DNA and Nexus 7.
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Just got the Ghost 100 wireless charger. Works great with the DNA. No problems yet,
Imacellist said:
Ok so I am noticing a pattern here and that is Nokia chargers. I have been using an energizer charger for months without problems, although I have had my DNA switched out twice for other issues. I just bought 2 nokia wireless pads since AT&T was selling them crazy cheap, and yesterday was the first full day of use. At the end of the day I went to put my phone on my energizer wireless charger and the blue light (on the charger) turned on, then turned back off. I grabbed my nokia charger and the same thing happened.I have left it off wireless charger all night (plugged in usb) and it seems to be working now. If I have problems again tonight I may be blaming the Nokia charger. Has anyone else had wireless charging fail with a charger made by other than Nokia?
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I've used mine with the 2 Nokia chargers for about 10 months and it has never failed to charge even once. Hoping it stays that way.
I have the same wireless charging issues with my Nokia wireless chargers. I have 2 of them, one works better than the other but on both eventually it stops charging as if I removed it from the plate. I'm 90% sure its a heat issue with the back cover and the back cover warps a little bit. If I put something on the phone (usually another phone) while its on the charging plate to weight it down a little and then it always charges perfectly.
Not an elegant solution by any means but it works. I just ordered a new Rav powered QI charger so I'll let you all know if I see better results (without the paperweight.
Hey, I just got my Z Ultra less than a week ago and I purchased http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JEN5S6A/
I figured it would be easier to use then undoing the charging flap every time.
When I was trying the tip out without being connected to the charger I noticed the magnet was strong but didn't sit in the connector properly..
After looking at some other magnetic chargers online I saw some of them being plugged in upside down so I tried that and it sat in the port better.
When the phone was extremely low on batter (4 percent) I plugged the charger into the tip and put it on upside down. At first the phone restarted so I thought hmm thats weird and unplugged it, I then tried again and made sure it sat in the port snug and my phone turned off and wouldnt turn on again.. After about 15 minutes of the phone charging with no sign of led or charging symbol I found online to try the reset button and it finally turned on. I did some searching online and found out that the port isn't really meant for a magnetic charger but a dock and what I experienced was inverse connection.
So i am wondering if this could have possibly damaged the phone or battery in any way? I dont know if my battery life has been affected or stayed the same as it was the second day of having the phone..
Sorry for the long rant but I would appreciate any input. Thanks
You're not the first one to do a "reverse charging", and I believe that it will or can damage your device. The magnetic connector is made for the Sony DK30 dock, which costs around $30.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EC...200_QL40&qid=1404599682&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1
The thing with using accessories like you do, is that it's not a genuine product by Sony, so any damage done by say, a no-name charger like you're using, won't be covered by the warranty. If your Ultra catches fire in the middle of the night and you're using a " fake" charger, well tough luck. Sony won't cover that.
I would use a "fake" charger if the Ultra had a removable battery, in case it got damaged, but it doesn't, so you're really playing with fire right now.
Well to be honest I did not know the charger wasn't made for that until I experienced that. I've ordered the dk30 dock online as the sony store near me did not carry it but was wondering if I should be concerned with what already happened and get my phone swapped as it's still within return policy..?
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Well to be honest I did not know the charger wasn't made for that until I experienced that. I've ordered the dk30 dock online as the sony store near me did not carry it but was wondering if I should be concerned with what already happened and get my phone swapped as it's still within return policy..?
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i bought a aftermarket magnetic charging cable, plugged reversely and same as yours, couldnt turn on until i pressed the reset button to make the led lit when charging, waited a few hours plugged to the usb sony charger, led turned out normal. just when i thought it was fine again i noticed whenever i turned it off it turned itself on again and boot loop until i pressed the reset button to make it really off, plus, when it hit 15% battery life on the indicator on notification bar, it dropped 2% per second, yes, per second, and phone died. returned it and waiting for replacement.
see if yours has those symptoms, i think reverse charging does damage to the battery or the phone, see the shape of the tips of the charging port different, there may be a reason behind it.
edit: the reason i tried plugging the magnetic cable reversely was while i plugged it in normal direction, it showed its charging while it wasnt, thats y, and it was a cheap aftermarket one, i ended up buying a official dk30 from sony store
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i bought a aftermarket magnetic charging cable, plugged reversely and same as yours, couldnt turn on until i pressed the reset button to make the led lit when charging, waited a few hours plugged to the usb sony charger, led turned out normal. just when i thought it was fine again i noticed whenever i turned it off it turned itself on again and boot loop until i pressed the reset button to make it really off, plus, when it hit 15% battery life on the indicator on notification bar, it dropped 2% per second, yes, per second, and phone died. returned it and waiting for replacement.
see if yours has those symptoms, i think reverse charging does damage to the battery or the phone, see the shape of the tips of the charging port different, there may be a reason behind it.
edit: the reason i tried plugging the magnetic cable reversely was while i plugged it in normal direction, it showed its charging while it wasnt, thats y, and it was a cheap aftermarket one, i ended up buying a official dk30 from sony store
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I have a Magnetic Charger - and I too experienced the shut down when I tried it upside down once.
I'm using a generic charger and haven't experienced any issues for months - just make sure to use it correctly.
This thread has me worried now though haha.
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I have a Magnetic Charger - and I too experienced the shut down when I tried it upside down once.
I'm using a generic charger and haven't experienced any issues for months - just make sure to use it correctly.
This thread has me worried now though haha.
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Im sure there has been one that the charger was the wrong polarity I think, and another where it was misused, that ended up with near dead batteries
I accidentally connected the charger in reverse, well the port is now dead. The phone thinks it's charging but the charger light never comes on and GSAM shows no increase in charge. At least the USB port still works.
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Thank you very much for the warning. After reading this thread I was thinking that Sony should have keyed the connector to only plug in one orientation. I looked at my magnetic charger and that is indeed the case. One opening is round and one is oval, so the round opening will not fit over the oval contact on the phone. I guess the issue is the quality of the magnetic charger cable - a cheap one still may allow contact. The key is that the contacts on the cable are recessed into the housing so that the housing must fit over the posts on the phone before contact is made.
why in the name of all that is holy does the connector even allow for being plugged in the wrong way???
Cheap Chineese knockoffs. JUST DON'T BUY THEM.
Sony should have just gone with induction charging but oh well. As cheap as the GPe is right now, I'll just buy another one.
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I just found this thread after plugging in my magnetic adapter in backwards. I have been using it for almost 6 months with no problem, and then this past Friday, I sat down at my desk and grabbed the charger and stuck it on without looking, and the phone shut off. You know the rest, now the magnetic port is done, and the screen will either keep coming back on while charging, or shut off and not come back on unless I force it off with Power + Vol + key. This sucks. I don't think I will get another Sony since it was so easy to kill it. Great big screen though, I will miss it.
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I just found this thread after plugging in my magnetic adapter in backwards. I have been using it for almost 6 months with no problem, and then this past Friday, I sat down at my desk and grabbed the charger and stuck it on without looking, and the phone shut off. You know the rest, now the magnetic port is done, and the screen will either keep coming back on while charging, or shut off and not come back on unless I force it off with Power + Vol + key. This sucks. I don't think I will get another Sony since it was so easy to kill it. Great big screen though, I will miss it.
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It wasn't a sony cable though was it? can you blame sony for a defective charger that they don't make?
Sorry about the phone by the way
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It wasn't a sony cable though was it? can you blame sony for a defective charger that they don't make?
Sorry about the phone by the way
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You're right, it was some cheap Chinese magnetic adapter, and true, I can't blame Sony for that. I guess I have gotten accustomed to buying any cheap microUSB cable or even headphone I can find, and using it on my phone without a second thought. I think that's why all of us who have messed up our phones with these bad magnetic adapters didn't stop to think we were putting our phone at risk. It was just another cheap accessory. I guess I have learned my lesson to be more careful what I stick into my next phone.
Be careful of where you purchase the dock as well; I purchased the DK 30 dock on eBay, and after about a month, started having problems charging. One day, it wouldn't charge on the dock at all.
Saw that the right pin in the dock has one of the plastic surrounds which broke off, which I assume is the culprit of the problem.
So off I went, this time Amazon, to order another dock, which works, using it now to charge my mobile phone.
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Fire!
I almost killed my phone! Aside from upside-down, I was using an apple 2.4a charger - it burned the side out of the phone, and melted the cable right off the connector - in fact - the melting-off probably saved me - house filled with smoke etc. It did the mad re-start loop thing for about half an hour (my guess - there's a temp sensor in there which was tripping our because of the heat), but to my amazement, even with the side melted to death, the phone now still seems to work OK for me (probably not including the "waterproof" feature anymore).
Was super lucky it didn't burn the house down. What kind of idiot manufacturer doesn't put a polarity bridge on their reversable socket!?!?!?!
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I almost killed my phone! Aside from upside-down, I was using an apple 2.4a charger - it burned the side out of the phone, and melted the cable right off the connector - in fact - the melting-off probably saved me - house filled with smoke etc. It did the mad re-start loop thing for about half an hour (my guess - there's a temp sensor in there which was tripping our because of the heat), but to my amazement, even with the side melted to death, the phone now still seems to work OK for me (probably not including the "waterproof" feature anymore).
Was super lucky it didn't burn the house down. What kind of idiot manufacturer doesn't put a polarity bridge on their reversable socket!?!?!?!
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with an oem version the plug isn't reversible for all accounts I've read
I bought one on eBay allegedly SONY, broken in two-three weeks of use.
Brought another on Amazon, believe it is genuine, still works.
Both were the DK-30 charging dock. The broken one I use to watch YouTube.
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Just to echo all of the previous posters - had the same issue as well.
My experience played out as follows:
* Got phone - over joyed since recently price reductions for such a high quality product meant approx USD290.
* Realise the flaps are a bit annoying so after 1 week; get magnetic charger. Seems to work at office
* Get another for home. After try two times; connect but not charge. connect in reverse. Phone shuts off immediately.
* PANICK - for next 30 minutes try the little red button, power switch + (combinations). Nothing helps
* eventually just plug into USB port and pray. After another 20 minutes get blinking red LED. But still doesn't boot
* another 20 minutes ago- solid LED; it boots! still at original percentage battery.
* now have strange problem - without anything plugged in; the phone can't boot properly, get repated SONY logo followed by power off and loop. CPU gets hot.
* If plug in USB - get styled battery icon; and when booting... IT WORKS.
* If close to fully charge (>90%) screen keeps on activating now when charging.
* to rub salt in the wound; the original magnetic charger at work doesn't seem to charge anymore (ie magnetic charger port dead).
Since it is a 3 week old phone, have lots of mixed feelings now. It was REALLY great purchase for the price and happy with it at first. but now I feel like I have a damaged product. feel quite upset.
I know buying cheap USB charger was the problem; but for SONY to have something so critical and vulnerable makes me wary as well. Initlally happy with phone (came from Galaxy Note camp) but now just wary of the phones.
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I accidentally connected the charger in reverse, well the port is now dead. The phone thinks it's charging but the charger light never comes on and GSAM shows no increase in charge. At least the USB port still works.
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I am facing the same problem. My magnetic charging port is now dead ( charging led lights up but the doesn't charged the battery. battery level goes down ). I have changed the magnetic charging port, but still behaves the same. Do you think changing the charging flex will make it work ? because if the magnetic charging port is damaged from motherboard itself, then there is no point changing the flex...
Appreciate your reply.
Thanks !
Hello!
I recently bought a S6 Edge for my little brother (1 week ago).
As he returned from school in the weekend (Boardschool) I surprised him with a fully charges S6 Edge (Left it charging for a day).
As monday he went back to school (They can only use the phones in their rooms) he left it charging monday night)
The phone was not charged teusday morning. (using the original charger and OTG cable).
He tried with his laptop, another power plug and nothing worked.
This weekend now I tried with a Qi charger and it started charing.
After a full night Qi charing his phone is at 100%
The phone doesnt get detected by my computer either. Seems like the microUSB port is broken, but he barely had the phone... And you know how you handle a brand new expensive phone, right?
I checked for dust, nothing changed.
Im not in the mood to send the phone back right now, so I wonder if anyone encountered this problem and maybe fixed it.
Thanks,
PV-
same thing just happened to me..did you find a fix by any chance?
same as you body, but i dident want to go in repair shop because i dont want to open my phone so i decided to buy a wireless charger and is working good until now with a little problem that is a slow way to charge a phone In a mean time if you dont have a wireless charger try to turn off your phone and plugged in charger repeat this until it works because my S6 sometimes it works sometimes not (alternative buy a battery case)... hope i was helpful for you, have great day.