I made this thread so that we can discuss about batteries and battery temperatures and how can we make our batteries more sustainable , i recently got my battery dead after 9 months of use so now im having a new battery. (My phone use is HARDCORE)
Recently ive noted that mobile is getting hot so i started to monitor my battery , im getting normal temperature in standby arround 30°C-33°C and when i normally use the phone it reaches upto 35°C-38°C but while playing games it starts getting above 40°C - sometimes 43/44°C and it feels hot too.
So i was just curious to know if there are people in xda who monitor their battery regularly. It would be good if everyone will post their battery temperatures so that everyone of us can have an idea of battery temperatures.
The app i use to monitor battery is "Battery Indicator Pro".
Thanks.
About the same on my infuse
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have samsung galaxy mini 2. on stock rom and peter's rom, battery would discharge around 2 and a half, 3 days. flashed few more times, now i need to charge him once a day. temp is around 20-25, depends
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have samsung galaxy mini 2. on stock rom and peter's rom, battery would discharge around 2 and a half, 3 days. flashed few more times, now i need to charge him once a day. temp is around 20-25, depends
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That depends on your usage.
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Its usually 37-45 C
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Its usually 37-45 C
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45? Isnt it too high? Or its just fine?
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45? Isnt it too high? Or its just fine?
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Kinda high, it does that when charging, pretty annoying...
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Mine also goes upto 42°C
I have yuphoria on stock android. Its temp is 35c when idle , during normal usage 38-39c and while watching YouTube for 15-20 min it goes to 40-41c
It mostly depends on the device cooling mechanism.
Mine's Redmi Note 10. Unlike other phones, that come with at least copper heatsinks, mine literally got nothing but open aluminium sheets & a polycarbonate outer cover.
Stock MIUI temps are very bad. You can feel at your fingers radiating warm air.
After I unlocked & use a rom like lineage (without any bloat & heavy apps), temps really got down stable.
On hot summer, on standby, it usually sits at 32-33⁰c. On idle usage, it goes upto 38⁰c when I use social media. And 40-41⁰c when I watch YouTube at 720p. I think these are good numbers despite not having a cooling heatsink mechanism.
I go screen off at 100F.
If you're getting high temperature shutdowns you are at risk of damaging the device...
100% charge, high current drain, high temperatures, back to back high current drain/ charge cycles with no rest inbetween, discharging past 20%, charging with screen on... will take their tolls.
A battery should last at least a year and I'm a very heavy user. However if your SOT is higher than 14%@hour you are killing the battery. This type of Li doesn't like constant high current drain especially at temperatures above 102F.
Any battery swelling is a failure, replace it immediately.
Never charge below 72F, a minimum start temperature of 82F is better. Low temperature charging can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
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Hi.. I m having this problem from months.. But is it normal? My phone charges and after 15 minutes the geeko heats up to 40'C.. Is it common for all.. Just asking before taking the gizmo to service center...
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Hi.. I m having this problem from months.. But is it normal? My phone charges and after 15 minutes the geeko heats up to 40'C.. Is it common for all.. Just asking before taking the gizmo to service center...
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40 is kinda warm. I got mine to 50. It's normal, the shop people would laugh
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Hi.. I m having this problem from months.. But is it normal? My phone charges and after 15 minutes the geeko heats up to 40'C.. Is it common for all.. Just asking before taking the gizmo to service center...
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Same problem experienced in summer while charging!
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It normal. .:d mine 50+...
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its normal i ever go up to 55'c
even i use samsung galaxy ace i use 3g connection ..earlier this battery heating problem was not there..it started of a sudden previously temp used to be 35*C now while surfing net temp goes to 40*C and while charging to 45*C even screen gets heated ..need help
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its normal i ever go up to 55'c
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Its not, the MAX temperature of a phone Li-ion battery seams to be 60° C
mine is constantly 25~40 (MAX)
And high levels shorten battery life until next charge
The rate of degradation of Lithium-ion batteries is strongly temperature-dependent; they degrade much faster if stored or used at higher temperatures
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Thanks all for replying
Casings too will raise your temp, I had a cheap case I got with Koodo, and it kept all the heat in the phone, I removed it and my battery temps go down. although I keep it on when it's not charging. It's fine then.
My Galaxy Ace is always at 45 degrees......unless it was a miracle and the air-conditioner managed to cool it down
Herpderp iPad2.
No I don't care if you're anti-Apple.
I never saw my cell going to 45'C.!!! One interesting thing i noticied is that the temp is only high between 20-70% battery charging.. After that just 2-4 minutes temp goes to 30'C!! While gaming upto 35'C.. Only charging heats up my gizmo.. Never had this problem with NOKIA 5230..
My battery once had a temperature of 50 degrees
Sometimes, it also depends on how much you're stressing the CPU. If you're doing something heavy like a lot of multi tasking or 3D gaming, it'll heat up the battery and such. Just like using your phone while charging. Happened to me a lot before so I stopped that habit.
I use SetCPU to slow down Max CPU Frequency to 480 Hz when phone temp goes >40 C. That helped.
The SII gets VERY hot (About 65) when using the Onlive app.
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I use SetCPU to slow down Max CPU Frequency to 480 Hz when phone temp goes >40 C. That helped.
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Hey even I installed SetCpu did cpu frequency to 480Mhz.when goes to >40C ,bt still temp doesnt goes below 40C screen is still heated..bt I mst say battery backup has improved after using setcpu..bt wat the temp and screen heating problem??
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Hey even I installed SetCpu did cpu frequency to 480Mhz.when goes to >40C ,bt still temp doesnt goes below 40C screen is still heated..bt I mst say battery backup has improved after using setcpu..bt wat the temp and screen heating problem??
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I use 480Mhz because more continuous CPU cycles can definitely heat up the phone. This is why any phone heats up quickly when using it and charging it simultaneously. My phone temp has never gone beyond 40C. But I would start worrying and would not use it when its charging, if it'd gone beyond 40C.
And no offense, but those who say like 60C is normal. You guys are definitely hampering your battery life.
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I use 480Mhz because more continuous CPU cycles can definitely heat up the phone. This is why any phone heats up quickly when using it and charging it simultaneously. My phone temp has never gone beyond 40C. But I would start worrying and would not use it when its charging, if it'd gone beyond 40C.
And no offense, but those who say like 60C is normal. You guys are definitely hampering your battery life.
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Oh well , never liked the battery life of this phone anyway
Herpderp Defy.
I reached 60 while playing nyan cat my screen turned black but phone us running
Hello, phones already, let's set clearly , very hot when you use it normally while charging (~45C° NOW in summer) then when playing , app report about 50C but it feels like much more... Those sorry of exploding galaxys are worrying me. What do you think?
Constantly running the phone @ high temperatures will probably shorten the life of the battery a bit, how much is hard to say. Does it shorten the life of the CPU or other components ? Maybe. But lets face it many (most ?) people change phones every year or two these days so that's not really an issue. You're more likely to notice the battery thing if you do it often enough.
Me personally, I don't do anything heavily CPU intensive with the phone while it's charging. I mean, how easy is it to do whatever it is you have to do with the phone (play a game or whatever), then throw it on charger when you're done & not using the phone ?
With the poor battery of the SII, I prefer avoiding such situation : playing with kill battery in 3h or less, so unless I'm closer to full charge, I'll play will charging. This to avoid ultra low battery at any time. I'm not concerned by battery dying, I'm concerned by the explosion as said...
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Constantly running the phone @ high temperatures will probably shorten the life of the battery a bit, how much is hard to say. Does it shorten the life of the CPU or other components ? Maybe. But lets face it many (most ?) people change phones every year or two these days so that's not really an issue. You're more likely to notice the battery thing if you do it often enough.
Me personally, I don't do anything heavily CPU intensive with the phone while it's charging. I mean, how easy is it to do whatever it is you have to do with the phone (play a game or whatever), then throw it on charger when you're done & not using the phone ?
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As you said, high temperatures will shorten battery life.
An important aspect is that you shouldn't fully discharge the battery before charging it.
Charging from 50% to 100% will permit you about 1500 recharges.
Charging from 0% to 100% will permit you about 500 recharges.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Essential Phone stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Have not experienced any heating at all
I am experiencing heating issues, I would like to know if it's just me and hopefully I just have a defective device. The battery Temp stays around 49 Celsius
My phone does get a little hot... Altho I was jus using Google duo which uses a lot of resources I believe... Not 100% if that's the case tho, and it cooled rather quickly after I ended the phone call...
I'm not experiencing any heat on the phone at all.
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It gets pretty warm when I quick charge and use the phone at the same time but I think that goes for most of the phones out there
It won't get very hot. If the internal temp gets to 44C (112F) it aggressively throttles the big cluster down to about 1.2GHz, which is about half the maximum speed.
At 41C its down to 1.8GHz
At 40C its down to 2.1GHz
So in the span from 39C-43C (102F-109F) The performance drops by 50%.
A 4 degree C temperature span. This is the most aggressive throttling I've seen in any device I've owned.
I noticed this morning during charging the phone is getting too hot to touch around the upper right corner where the 360 camera attaches (which I don't have.)
no heat issues here yet.
Ya I am having some issues when I charge my phone and watch YouTube at the same time
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I am experiencing heating issues, I would like to know if it's just me and hopefully I just have a defective device. The battery Temp stays around 49 Celsius
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Mine is hot at times as well. How can you tell the temperature of the battery?
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I noticed this morning during charging the phone is getting too hot to touch around the upper right corner where the 360 camera attaches (which I don't have.)
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Same here I feel it at times of heavy usage and charging
Accu battery says I'm around 107.4 F when I'm charging and using heavy. But that's the hottest it gets. I generally sit it next to a fan whenever I experience this. But it does nothing for internal temp which stays at 107.4 but the outside is cool to touch. And now that I think about it I may be wing about the temp. Not sure if it was 104.7 or 107.4. But that's besides the point.
Yes this phone does get hot at time of heavy gaming/ usage/ etc
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Mine is hot at times as well. How can you tell the temperature of the battery?
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I use Ampere, and put a 1x1 widget on the home screen. The widget shows the mA (+/-), battery status (charging/discharging), battery %, and battery temp.
No heat issues, not even playing Pokemon Go.
I ran my phone on battery with Waze on for 2 hours and the display turned off, made a few long phone calls along the way, the phone was very cool IMHO based on other phones I had that I would run Waze on. Only used about 25% of the battery in this 2 hour timeframe with Waze, phone calls, emails coming in and news alerts popping up occasionally. Then connect the phone to a cheap USB-C phone charger that is probably low current and drove another hour and the phone was still cool.
I have not checked temperatures, but from the handling of the phone, it clearly did not feel warm.
So far, so good IMHO.
heating issues with essential phone
having heat issues when I'm using as a hotspot for video. nothing of concern.
Never had any heat issues on 7.1 or 8.1
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Hello guys,
So the other day I was messing with thermals and I flashed a thermal that basically removes entire thermal throttling. Because of that, I was able to charge my phone at 33wat constantly for about 20 mins. The charging speed was super awesome, but I'm wondering is it safe to do so constantly? When I was back on stock settings, the charge speed would randomly fluctuate b/w 10-18 watt but with no throttling it just constantly remains on 33watt.
So again is it safe to keep charging my phone on these higher voltages constantly?
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Hello guys,
So the other day I was messing with thermals and I flashed a thermal that basically removes entire thermal throttling. Because of that, I was able to charge my phone at 33wat constantly for about 20 mins. The charging speed was super awesome, but I'm wondering is it safe to do so constantly? When I was back on stock settings, the charge speed would randomly fluctuate b/w 10-18 watt but with no throttling it just constantly remains on 33watt.
So again is it safe to keep charging my phone on these higher voltages constantly?
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Not knowing enough about this, I'd assume it's not safe and that heating of the battery would be the issue and would lead to your battery being cooked over a series of charging cycles, but I see your point temperature was not excessive (34°) - I'd advise using an app to record moment by moment charging temperature
Assuming you didn't have your phone in a pool of cooled mineral oil during charging I'd assume that you've just become a test pilot. Let us know what happens... [consider also the possibility that your house might burn down]
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Not knowing enough about this, I'd assume it's not safe and that heating of the battery would be the issue and would lead to your battery being cooked over a series of charging cycles, but I see your point temperature was not excessive (34°) - I'd advise using an app to record moment by moment charging temperature
Assuming you didn't have your phone in a pool of cooled mineral oil during charging I'd assume that you've just become a test pilot. Let us know what happens... [consider also the possibility that your house might burn down]
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OK thanks for your insights. Yes I did some research on my own. Particularly from battery university (yes that's a thing, a whole website..) and I learned that as long as your battery temp doesn't hit 50c you can do whatever you want because in the end your phone only ever draws enough power that its circuitry was designed for. So that information was enough for me to continue my journey into hotter waters.
So far, during charging from 49% to 80% my poco only took about 17 mins to reach there and right when it reached 80c that I saw it start to throttle a bit so by the time it was 82, the watts came down to 25-28 range. So I guess that's hardware throttling in effect since I have already got the software ones removed? And anyway during these 17 mins, while the ambient temp at my place was 32c, the battery temp soared as far as 43c. I believe I would frequently hit the same temp even when I had all thermal enabled running on stock setup. So we can safely rule out that it didn't happen because of not having thermals but just because the ambaint + charging had their own way.
Lastly, I would continue doing this for few more days checking under air-conditioned room next and see how it goes. For now I'm sticking with 20-80 battery rule because that's supposed to be the safest thing in the world of li-on batteries.
Normally quickcharge will keep stuff safe so it will adjust accordingly.
If temps would get over 40-45 deg. c. over a long time it would take a hit on the 'life' of the cell.
Charging slow and between a range of 10 and 90% will help cell life for sure.
what kind of adapter were you using to get 33 watts? most i've seen on my phone is 22 or something watts
also, what font is that if you don't mind me asking
mine does 33 watts too ??
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what kind of adapter were you using to get 33 watts? most i've seen on my phone is 22 or something watts
also, what font is that if you don't mind me asking
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Stock adapter that comes with box. And font is from IOS. Available in handy magisk model. Search inside magisk manager.
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mine does 33 watts too ??
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Yep its 33watt as shown. What's your Rom + kernel setup?
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Yep its 33watt as shown. What's your Rom + kernel setup?
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Pixel Experience w/f2fs (7/22/2019) + Optimus Drunk kernel latest
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Pixel Experience w/f2fs (7/22/2019) + Optimus Drunk kernel latest
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Whats the deal about f2fs I keep seeing this pop every once in a while but never got enough details on it. Since you are using it, can you educate me what it's and does it even make any difference?
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Whats the deal about f2fs I keep seeing this pop every once in a while but never got enough details on it. Since you are using it, can you educate me what it's and does it even make any difference?
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It's a file system for android, and yes it does make quite a decent (not like huge) difference when you load up apps (f2fs is usually used in the /data partition) basically apps open faster and it makes the phone feels snappier.
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OK thanks for your insights. Yes I did some research on my own. Particularly from battery university (yes that's a thing, a whole website..) and I learned that as long as your battery temp doesn't hit 50c you can do whatever you want because in the end your phone only ever draws enough power that its circuitry was designed for. So that information was enough for me to continue my journey into hotter waters.
So far, during charging from 49% to 80% my poco only took about 17 mins to reach there and right when it reached 80c that I saw it start to throttle a bit so by the time it was 82, the watts came down to 25-28 range. So I guess that's hardware throttling in effect since I have already got the software ones removed? And anyway during these 17 mins, while the ambient temp at my place was 32c, the battery temp soared as far as 43c. I believe I would frequently hit the same temp even when I had all thermal enabled running on stock setup. So we can safely rule out that it didn't happen because of not having thermals but just because the ambaint + charging had their own way.
Lastly, I would continue doing this for few more days checking under air-conditioned room next and see how it goes. For now I'm sticking with 20-80 battery rule because that's supposed to be the safest thing in the world of li-on batteries.
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But, how long does it take to reach 49% from 0% or from 20% as you say you follow the 20-80 rule?
Removing thermals is not a good idea, I'm not an expert but I get more fluid experience playing CODM , capping the max speed of all proccesors to 1.7ghz , and keep the phone charging at low voltage. I can play for hours at 60fps and the battery never hits 44c. Removing thermals and processor's cap, I would have a great 15 minutes of game and then it would be very hot and hardware throttle, to the extreme of even get only 20 frames /sec or even less.
All that heat is bad for battery and the components. The battery will go bad faster, inflating in worst cases, and the IPS panel can get permanent ghosting. I know this from previous devices poco included. I do gaming for hours. Removing thermals + gaming at high brightness is bad.
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Removing thermals is not a good idea, I'm not an expert but I get more fluid experience playing CODM , capping the max speed of all proccesors to 1.7ghz , and keep the phone charging at low voltage. I can play for hours at 60fps and the battery never hits 44c. Removing thermals and processor's cap, I would have a great 15 minutes of game and then it would be very hot and hardware throttle, to the extreme of even get only 20 frames /sec or even less.
All that heat is bad for battery and the components. The battery will go bad faster, inflating in worst cases, and the IPS panel can get permanent ghosting. I know this from previous devices poco included. I do gaming for hours. Removing thermals + gaming at high brightness is bad.
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Um, you don't just remove thermal limitations and charge like yesterday.
That is useless and in some cases counter-intuitive.
You highly decrease the temperature to 14 degree Celsius to 26/28 Degree Celsius and charge in that.
However as you say, if you're doing high intense activities that use a lot of hardware, which generally heats the phone, then having a heated phone for extended periods of time *might* be bad for the battery, well having any electronic device heated is bad for the internal circuitry. I have a personal experience with this.
That said, as long as you're using your phone for mild to medium intensity activities like watching multi-media applications and surfing, calling, etc removing thermals will have no significant issues and not reduce the battery life because your phone is mostly never going above 35/36 degree Celsius.
Or if you can, remove thermals whenever you're charging and put them back on whenever you're not.
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Hello guys,
So the other day I was messing with thermals and I flashed a thermal that basically removes entire thermal throttling. Because of that, I was able to charge my phone at 33wat constantly for about 20 mins. The charging speed was super awesome, but I'm wondering is it safe to do so constantly? When I was back on stock settings, the charge speed would randomly fluctuate b/w 10-18 watt but with no throttling it just constantly remains on 33watt.
So again is it safe to keep charging my phone on these higher voltages constantly?
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what app is that?
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what app is that?
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FKM. Franco Kernel Manager.
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FKM. Franco Kernel Manager.
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ah, thanks
I have been using the Samsung Galaxy A10 for 10 months now. Currently I'm facing battery issue (Discharging at irregular rates) and heating issues (On the screen - top - at the camera). I know this is a hardware problem. But , my battery has lost it's life over the age. My battery health is only 87% approx. 2987 MaH is left. But , the heating issue is going out of hand and it's crazy! It gets heated up for simple tasks like browsing on chrome watching a couple videos and so on on. The temperature is way too high average it's 35°C but it goes up to 45°C. It's like i can boil a egg on my phone. So I've been thinking of getting a new battery. So i taught why can't i use the Samsung Galaxy A50 battery if it fits. Have anyone tried this before or has anyone changed their A10 battery ? Please let me know.
What's the limit ? I mean everything has a limit and so does the circuit of a phone. Do you think it's safe using a 5000 Mah battery?
The question is will it fit?
Yeah , you are right. I've been searching for a higher capacity battery and i think A10S battery will fit. It's 4000 mah and where i live i can find it for less than $15. At the same time , i think i must act fast. My problem is kinda worsening. The phone gets hot for no reason at all! I'm afraid that it'll burst. Do you think that battery abuse maybe the reason? Draining the battery to 0% like almost everyday , using low quality charger , etc., please someone let me know ASAP I'm afraid!