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Ok guys, I have done some hunting on the internet for a way to use my Android Tablet as a display for my PS3.
Now I am sure some of you are thinking "That's an effing great idea blorenzo, you are so awesome and wise" while others are thinking "why do you want to do that?"
To put it simply, for example say I am playing PS3 in my room (where my PS3 is located) but feel the sudden urge to defecate (take a ****) I can bring my Tablet into the bathroom with me, prop it on something and keep playing. (This is literally the event that gave me this idea)
On top of that say I want to play PS3 in the living room but am not in the mood to bring the entire unit downstairs, I can bring down my Tablet and plug it into the TV and boom! Or better yet say my girl wants me to watch a TV show with her that I am not into (Jersey Shore) then I can bring down my tablet and a PS3 controller (bluetooth reaches for me) and pretend I'm browsing the internet while I am really playing Killzone online.
You see in that situation it is a win/win, she thinks I'm spending time with her and I am actually having a blast killing people. I am sure there are many more uses for such an application and I could list them endlessly.
If it exists already someone point me in that direction if it doesn't... I think someone has ALOT of work ahead of them.
That's really a lot of work. Would the ps3 have built in drivers to transmit image through bluetooth? I think no, you'd need a modded ps3.
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Not possible. Simple as. It the same reason you cant have wireless monitors. Too much info to be converted and move at speed.
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PS3 doesn't have wireless monitor/DNLA support afaik, also i dont know if there is any tv/ hdmi input on android phone.
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Not possible. Simple as. It the same reason you cant have wireless monitors. Too much info to be converted and move at speed.
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The WiiU plans on doing it...
Brothers if history has taught us anything its, when there is a will there is a way!
Lets think about this... (I'm not trying to be sarcastic or rude in anyway, I was simply asking these questions out loud to myself)
Are there Android Tablets that Support USB connections? Yes.
Is it possible to receive a video stream via USB? Yes.
So would it theoretically be possible utilizing some sort of USB Dongle? Or HDMI to USB Dongle?
reverse engineer the psp play functionality, does exactly this, right?
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Ya that's what I was thinking, I remember checking out my PS3 stuff through my PSP (Checking messages and stuff) on any wifi network, but it was pretty slow and limited, no games or really anything other than the web browser and messsage box. Maybe there will be something better with the PS Vita.
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Ok guys, I have done some hunting on the internet for a way to use my Android Tablet as a display for my PS3.
Now I am sure some of you are thinking "That's an effing great idea blorenzo, you are so awesome and wise" while others are thinking "why do you want to do that?"
To put it simply, for example say I am playing PS3 in my room (where my PS3 is located) but feel the sudden urge to defecate (take a ****) I can bring my Tablet into the bathroom with me, prop it on something and keep playing. (This is literally the event that gave me this idea)
On top of that say I want to play PS3 in the living room but am not in the mood to bring the entire unit downstairs, I can bring down my Tablet and plug it into the TV and boom! Or better yet say my girl wants me to watch a TV show with her that I am not into (Jersey Shore) then I can bring down my tablet and a PS3 controller (bluetooth reaches for me) and pretend I'm browsing the internet while I am really playing Killzone online.
You see in that situation it is a win/win, she thinks I'm spending time with her and I am actually having a blast killing people. I am sure there are many more uses for such an application and I could list them endlessly.
If it exists already someone point me in that direction if it doesn't... I think someone has ALOT of work ahead of them.
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this guy here seem to have done what you want http://ps3maven.com/portable-ps3-mod/ and to everybody who said it cant be done in your face
to do this with an android tablet you would need two things:
1. you would need a wireless HDMI bridge (they're expensive, but something like this: http://goo.gl/z53fL)
2. You would need someone to make a mod/app for the tablet to convert HDMI out port into an HDMI in port. This would be done in either via an app or a mod to the actual kernel and how it uses the HDMI port. AFAIK most android tablets have an Mini HDMI port on them.
Doing these two things would give you wireless signal to your tablet anywhere that is within range of the HDMI bridge.
Nice, thanks for the reply's guys and now we know for a fact that its not impossible. If we only had a Dev who could see that this would be an awesome application for a tablet and come up with a way to achieve it.
Or Sony could just release this app officially, I would gladly pay for it.
I guess I will continue to dream...
I think HDMI in for a android tablet would be sweet! Think of taking car trips with a xbox or ps3. Or any of the many other devices you could plug in!
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Hmmm I guess this was a question that we wanted to turn into a development.... kinda a gray zone in my opinion. But alas I guess my opinion is null.
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i have limited background in this, but was looking for the same thing. and everyone is saying it is not possible. Bluetooth is entirely plausible... plus the bandwith is **** so the image would either look good, but have about 2 frames a minute, or look like **** and be mostly playable. however, the PSP and PS Vita can do something similar over the network. if someone can rip the "Remote Play" bit out of a vita, and toss it in some sort of emulator, it might work. but the PS3 controller would likely have to be connected to the tablet.
Tablet PS3 monitor - The easy way!
Really...
If you have a PC with a video in PCI card (maybe if you don't mind the bad quality you could use a webcam even) plug your audio, and video from your PS3 to your computer. Use VLC to stream the incoming video and audio over your LAN in a format that your tablet can play. Play the stream via the media player on your tablet. Done.
Your welcome.
sounds good, buuuuuuut...
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Really...
If you have a PC with a video in PCI card (maybe if you don't mind the bad quality you could use a webcam even) plug your audio, and video from your PS3 to your computer. Use VLC to stream the incoming video and audio over your LAN in a format that your tablet can play. Play the stream via the media player on your tablet. Done.
Your welcome.
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I was actually thinking of a device that did the same thing (PS3 or other video source to tablet). Have you found any products like this out there yet?
I understand what AmnzeroCorrosion is saying as to how that path may work, but I think this glosses over some technical challenges. Using most video capture cards will introduce latency b/c most video capture cards encode to MPEG. While being very efficient in bandwidth usage, MPEG uses interframe comrpession so it takes a couple frames of video being input before the first frame can be sent over the network. Couple that with network delays and the latency only increases. I wouldnt see it taking much before the latency of the setup would make it unbearable for fast twitch games.
I would be extremely interested to know if this has been tackled already.
Idisplay might work
I was googling on it and found Idisplay application. Not sure if anyone tried on it, but i am planning to use it for my PS3 and LG 3D Android mobile.
If already anyone use then welcome to share experience.
AmnzeroCorrosion said:
Really...
If you have a PC with a video in PCI card (maybe if you don't mind the bad quality you could use a webcam even) plug your audio, and video from your PS3 to your computer. Use VLC to stream the incoming video and audio over your LAN in a format that your tablet can play. Play the stream via the media player on your tablet. Done.
Your welcome.
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abhineo said:
I was googling on it and found Idisplay application. Not sure if anyone tried on it, but i am planning to use it for my PS3 and LG 3D Android mobile.
If already anyone use then welcome to share experience.
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I hook up ps3 to computer using easy cap usb. So can't we use an otg usb to phone plug in and plug easy cap.
blorenzo said:
Ok guys, I have done some hunting on the internet for a way to use my Android Tablet as a display for my PS3.
Now I am sure some of you are thinking "That's an effing great idea blorenzo, you are so awesome and wise" while others are thinking "why do you want to do that?"
To put it simply, for example say I am playing PS3 in my room (where my PS3 is located) but feel the sudden urge to defecate (take a ****) I can bring my Tablet into the bathroom with me, prop it on something and keep playing. (This is literally the event that gave me this idea)
On top of that say I want to play PS3 in the living room but am not in the mood to bring the entire unit downstairs, I can bring down my Tablet and plug it into the TV and boom! Or better yet say my girl wants me to watch a TV show with her that I am not into (Jersey Shore) then I can bring down my tablet and a PS3 controller (bluetooth reaches for me) and pretend I'm browsing the internet while I am really playing Killzone online.
You see in that situation it is a win/win, she thinks I'm spending time with her and I am actually having a blast killing people. I am sure there are many more uses for such an application and I could list them endlessly.
If it exists already someone point me in that direction if it doesn't... I think someone has ALOT of work ahead of them.
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I love how you're demanding to someone make that application for you and still call yourself a genius.
seems to be a great idea, i think it should be possible ..........
Hey guys...
The goal is to connect/mirror my tablet to a HDTV wirelessly without a HDMI cord anyone know/recommend a product that would allow this process efficiently? Thanks!
Canious said:
Hey guys...
The goal is to connect/mirror my tablet to a HDTV wirelessly without a HDMI cord anyone know/recommend a product that would allow this process efficiently? Thanks!
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I've been meaning to ask the same question... I can't find and WHDMI kits for micro HDMI ports, and even the full-sized ones are bulky I'm hoping there's a better alternative that using a full sized one with a converter...
Currently I can't think of any products that I'd recommend or advocate.
WHDI is the technology currently being backed by several manufacturers as being "the answer" to High Definition streaming, but currently the number of compatible devices is exceptionally low.
The only product that I can come up with that is even close to what you're after would be this:
www(dot)galaxywhdi(dot)com/Product4(dot)aspx
You'd need a micro-HDMI->HDMI dongle as well and I'm not 100% sure it's compatible with Android devices, I'm not capable of checking from my work desk.
Squiggle said:
Currently I can't think of any products that I'd recommend or advocate.
WHDI is the technology currently being backed by several manufacturers as being "the answer" to High Definition streaming, but currently the number of compatible devices is exceptionally low.
The only product that I can come up with that is even close to what you're after would be this:
www(dot)galaxywhdi(dot)com/Product4(dot)aspx
You'd need a micro-HDMI->HDMI dongle as well and I'm not 100% sure it's compatible with Android devices, I'm not capable of checking from my work desk.
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Thanks for the advice, but personally that device is way too hefty for me, and probably too expensive too.
I'm just about to move and am fine connecting my prime to the tv in the lounge using a cable, but that's not going to work in the bedroom. As I need to buy a TV anyway, would some sort of smart/wifi tv offer a (streaming/rdp) solution?
AppleTV is the only consumer product that I have heard of that provides this ability using Airplay Mirroring.
I recently read that there is a solution in beta that feigns Airplay onto Android devices, but I highly doubt it actually has mirroring, and can only be specific to iTunes supported media formats.
I only wish that Roku follows up on this idea and implements it into some of their models. Being able to directly compete w/ Apple at not just using streaming channels like Netflix but provide WiFi streaming from Android devices would be an instant hit.
Now when Google TV actually hits consumer hardware, you should be able to use something like iMedia Share to stream between two android devices. I stream my videos and music wirelessly to my PS3 using iMediaShare and it works pretty well, just doesn't have many options. All it really does is sets up a media server between the Prime and PS3. Luckily, the PS3 handles media servers very well.
Hey there,
Ive bought the Prime with 64gbs, and added a SD with another 64gb. So Ive got storage enough for a few time of HD videos to watch on the go. Also I take a mini HDMI and boy, that works great. The Prime doesnt struggle at all even playing 1080p through the HDMI port also sends the sound to the tv AWESOME. (I dont know if it sends the sound as 5.1 since the hotels i usually go they dont equip my room with 5.1 sound what a shame).
Now, im staring at my Prime wishing I could control it using my laptop or my SGS2. Is there any app that allows me to do that? just like the XBMC on the pc, that gives me access the library, and control the whole experience using the XBMC remote on the play market?
Just for the record - you do know you can connect an external hard drive to the Prime via the USB dongle or port on the dock?
Even better, it can be formatted FAT32, exFAT and (amazingly) NTFS. I would recommend a drive case with an external powersupply though - although I've been able to power almost anything I throw at the dock (not so much the Prime on its own).
As for controlling the Prime as a media player - I have to be honest here - you're kind of doing it the "wrong" way around.. usually, you'd get a cheap PC (like an Acer Revo) and add a TV tuner and use that as an HTPC, then use the Prime to control it - so you're kind of swimming upstream...
But, given the relative power of a Prime, I'd be surprised if XBMC doesn't come to it.. although I do have to point out - VLC has taken a LONG time to get to Android and they are working on it... so it may be a problem with the Android OS that's holding it back.
Update: Checked the home wiki for XBMC for Android - and there is just such a project - but it's not even in the starting phases yet. As I expected. the problem is that it requires a lot of work to get some of the code into Android.
There are quite few remote apps on the android market that will do what you want to do. With apps like MV Player, it will play anything you throw at it. It works great when you want to kick back and watch something from your tablet. HTPCs are kind of going the way of the dinosaur IMO with gaming consoles and things like Airplay, mini and regular HDMI ports, and Intel's WiDi technology continuing to improve on powerful mobile devices.
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http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_se218bb_ultrathin_optical_disc_drive_announced
For users with Android tablets running Honeycomb OS 3.1 or above, the SE-218BB allows access to DVDs and other optical media content.
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Can't wait to get my hands on one of these babies.
Nice but wrong forum I think.
Goddamn it! I put this in the wrong forum. A thousand apologies. Could a mod please move this? I could have sworn I was in general.
Nice to see that there is coming some new accessories to android.. Now hope we also can get a nice remote that works without any mods and extra apps.
sounds good but I'd want to see it in action first
Not sure what the news is here!!
Have had an LG external DVD drive that works of one usb port for a few years now! or is this a DVD drive that works in android?
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Not sure what the news is here!!
Have had an LG external DVD drive that works of one usb port for a few years now! or is this a DVD drive that works in android?
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For users with Android tablets running Honeycomb OS 3.1 or above, the SE-218BB allows access to DVDs and other optical media content.
Sure you can access it, but you still need a player. Can any of the media players play .iso DVD files? Has anyone with a USB DVD drive tried plugging it in to see what would happen?
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Sure you can access it, but you still need a player. Can any of the media players play .iso DVD files? Has anyone with a USB DVD drive tried plugging it in to see what would happen?
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good point. this was what I was wondering. Software/driver support to make it work
I just tried my Samsung slimline usb dvd drive..
I get preparing external storage sign pop up briefly then dissapear, then nothing cant access it or find it
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Sure you can access it, but you still need a player. Can any of the media players play .iso DVD files? Has anyone with a USB DVD drive tried plugging it in to see what would happen?
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I've been meaning to search out whether or not I could use mine and have just been too lazy and busy (contradictory I know lol).
According to flub though, looks like we can't actually use them. I wonder, couldn't we just compile some linux drivers into our kernel similar to how they got external WiFi adapters to work in the dev sub-forum? Suppose I'll have to really start digging, I certainly am not about to buy another external DVD drive just to use it with Android.
I remember seeing some real cool external BD readers/writers that also featured some kind of wireless features and stuff, I would think from Samsung. Haven't seen anything on it anymore though, and I can't for the life of me find the original articles I had read.
I'm assuming that once plugged in, it will see it as an external drive. To play the .iso dvd files you can use MXPlayer.
Although this dvd player is cool, i would love to see a Bluray version.
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Although this dvd player is cool, i would love to see a Bluray version.
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Yep. That's what I'll be waiting for.
Just to be thorough I tried again this time connecting via a powered usb hub ( just because I was curious if it made a difference)
Still no joy, brief preparing external storage message then nothing
I guess blue ray I can understand don't want to rip all those to an external or whatever. But for the most part DVD is dead, why is this such great news. I can store 100's of DVD's on one External HDD. I also wonder if part of why certain drives won't work is power related. The TFP doesn't have much to give to the USB maybe drives with external power will fair better (and drivers of course).
>Although this dvd player is cool, i would love to see a Bluray version.
When I first saw the announcement, I had to check the date to make sure it's not a goof-up. I mean, a portable DVD writer in 2012?!
There won't be a BD version. That would take much more power, and this particular model is designed to be powered from a single USB port. Most tablets would be lucky to have one powered USB, let alone two.
I don't see much practical use for it, since optical writers have been marginalized by USB flash storage years ago. They're slower, more bulky, and chews through your battery like nobody's business. I suppose if you like to carry about your DVD/BD disc collection with you, it'd be good for that, but then you would just need a reader.
Heh, I can imagine somebody trying to rip a DVD with this. Yes, a true test for Tegra 3 processing power and of Prime's I/O prowess! Please take a picture.
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>Although this dvd player is cool, i would love to see a Bluray version.
When I first saw the announcement, I had to check the date to make sure it's not a goof-up. I mean, a portable DVD writer in 2012?!
There won't be a BD version. That would take much more power, and this particular model is designed to be powered from a single USB port. Most tablets would be lucky to have one powered USB, let alone two.
I don't see much practical use for it, since optical writers have been marginalized by USB flash storage years ago. They're slower, more bulky, and chews through your battery like nobody's business. I suppose if you like to carry about your DVD/BD disc collection with you, it'd be good for that, but then you would just need a reader.
Heh, I can imagine somebody trying to rip a DVD with this. Yes, a true test for Tegra 3 processing power and of Prime's I/O prowess! Please take a picture.
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I think this could be awesome for Note 2 in the car or boat (for any phone with OTG). Blueray won't work imho unless powered hub maybe ... too much power draw. But DVD is good enough and ubiquitous. Imagine a roadtrip... you stop by McDonalds, re-up on cheezbrgs, milkshakes, preload your youtube vids over their wifi, rent a redbox movie, rip it from DVD to internal memory... return redbox. 5 minute rental and no need to come back to return it - no late fees. Then just delete it when you are done. No need to recompress or anything just play native .vobs Simple, fast, ?legal?, $1.... sounds good to me.
Movies for the passengers on the drive.
hi, my Xperia S is shipping to me and i’m wondering if i will able to connect it somehow to my ps3 to stream content to my HD tv without using the HDMI cable!
since i saw that there are only unofficial docks (and they can't connect simultaneously HDMI and USB) and i will use on of them to dock my phone near my bad, maybe it is possible to connect the phone to the ps3 via WiFi and then use all the functions on the tv like it was connected via HDMI, only using the ps3 "in the middle" and using the ps3 controller like remote.
In this way the controller would be used to play games too without rooting the phone like i saw here in the forums.
Am i only dreaming or you think it could be done and useful?
Thanks!
This is in no way possible. USB2.0 isnt fast enough to run video signals, never mind 802.11a/b/g/n(Wifi).
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This is in no way possible. USB2.0 isnt fast enough to run video signals, never mind 802.11a/b/g/n(Wifi).
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sorry but
my USB 2.0 (slow) external HD wich is a WD MyPassport is connected to my HD TV via USB 2.0 cable and i watch movies through it without any problem!
and i stream from my mac to my ps3 via wi-fi! (I can use "Playback" or "Ps3 Media Server"), sometime it lags a little bit but most of the time it works very well!
So i didn’t understand your answer, or i’m sorry but you are wrong mate! maybe you are speaking about full HD content... but i think that no-hd games and all the other stuff would work!
Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Your USB2.0 connection to your HDD is transmitting DATA to the TV. The tv generates the actual video signal then displays it. Same way you stick a usb key in your PS3, the video signal goes over HDMI.
Its not possible.
USB 2.0's data rate (480Mbps) is faster than WiFi 802.11 a (54 Mbps) /b (11 Mbps) /g (54Mbps). n from 108Mbps upto 600Mbps.
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Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Your USB2.0 connection to your HDD is transmitting DATA to the TV. The tv generates the actual video signal then displays it. Same way you stick a usb key in your PS3, the video signal goes over HDMI.
Its not possible.
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ok now i understood, i asked two times "sorry" contradicting you so i think i didn’t committed treason!
Thanks for the explanation
so the streaming from Mac to Ps3 works in the same way, the mac transforms the content into data, send it, and then the Ps3 read that data and re-generate content sending it to the TV via HDMI.
So probably the Xperia S could send data instead of video signal to the Ps3 via Wi-Fi but the process of converting content to data - "inside" the phone - would take too much time and it would not be "real time"
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This is in no way possible. USB2.0 isnt fast enough to run video signals, never mind 802.11a/b/g/n(Wifi).
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Its possible.
Dont come with theories what you just only "heard of".
Everything is possible.. The only problem is.. Support..
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Its possible.
Dont come with theories what you just only "heard of".
Everything is possible.. The only problem is.. Support..
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USB2.0 can not and will never support 720p. Its just too slow. Its for that reason that apple have developed thunderbolt.
I don't know if you could use the phone as a DLNA server and the PS3 as a DLNA client for this (sort of like Apple AirPlay).
But I don't have an Xperia S to test this theory out with, so...
(I know my reciever can be streamed to using DLNA [from Android, WP7, and WMP] and AirPlay [Apple]).
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I don't know if you could use the phone as a DLNA server and the PS3 as a DLNA client for this (sort of like Apple AirPlay).
But I don't have an Xperia S to test this theory out with, so...
(I know my reciever can be streamed to using DLNA [from Android, WP7, and WMP] and AirPlay [Apple]).
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From SONYmobile website: "The Exmor R™ for mobile camera sensor lightens up any gloomy day. Then share your pictures on a big screen. A single swipe of the display, and you can enjoy them on your tablet, TV or laptop via DLNA."
So the phone is capable to do this.
And PS3 of course can receive DLNA from a server.
Unfortunately i’m not a developer and this post was for knowledge and to give an idea to developers, since maybe an app that makes this (and other) phone(s) a media server would be interesting!
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USB2.0 can not and will never support 720p. Its just too slow. Its for that reason that apple have developed thunderbolt.
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It's funny that you said that, considering people have been stream video/music over their 3G connection, which is way slower than USB2.0 or wifi. And I believe many people also watch 1080 video from youtube over their 3G too!
I think it's quite possible, considering PS3 can read files on PC over lan as media server, maybe we need an app to make XS acts as a media server? Just a suggestion.
Have you tried this: http://www.prosyst.com/media/MediaServer/MediaServer-Docu.html
I am not at home to test it on my PS3 but it looks like it should do the job
3Shirts said:
Have you tried this: http://www.prosyst.com/media/MediaServer/MediaServer-Docu.html
I am not at home to test it on my PS3 but it looks like it should do the job
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yes i think that it will work, and there are other 2 or 3 similar apps. The thing that would be very cool would be to develop an app, starting from apps like these, that emulate the behavior that the phone and device have when connected via HDMI. With the phone like control surface too. Maybe this is impossibile
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Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Your USB2.0 connection to your HDD is transmitting DATA to the TV. The tv generates the actual video signal then displays it. Same way you stick a usb key in your PS3, the video signal goes over HDMI.
Its not possible.
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Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Read more article about DLNA before giving your own opinion without any backup .
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It's funny that you said that, considering people have been stream video/music over their 3G connection, which is way slower than USB2.0 or wifi. And I believe many people also watch 1080 video from youtube over their 3G too!
I think it's quite possible, considering PS3 can read files on PC over lan as media server, maybe we need an app to make XS acts as a media server? Just a suggestion.
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Again, these are DATA streams, not video. The 3G connection is "transferring a file" per say, not 1280x720 pixels every 50th or 60th of a second(with a few ms delay btw, while 3g connections get around 75ms+ ping).
3Shirts said:
Have you tried this: http://www.prosyst.com/media/MediaServer/MediaServer-Docu.html
I am not at home to test it on my PS3 but it looks like it should do the job
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DNLA is a great protocol and there are many apps the both host and client, but this isnt what the OP was talking about.
You could use some form of RDP(Remote desktop) but performance sucks such cases, and I presume you'd have to hack your PS3 to put a client on it.