Hello!
I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory) I just cant work like this. Someone would say, google it... I have a life, I don't want to google every single thing I don't understand.
I rooted a nexus with ease, this is just insane.
Sorry, im just not impressed, tried to root it a lot of times, it always ended me loosing my temper. Worst manufacturer for unlocking. Allready unlocked a psp, a samsung, asus, ps3, wii...but this is just stupid..
Anyone wanna help me out? Give me a link to a good tutorial?
Or just let me dump the phone?
Thanks...
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This is what q&a forum stands for...
Anyway:
If you only want root, the easiest way would be to follow the htcdev.com instructions to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery afterwards. Then just flash a superuser.zip and you're done
(A+B from first link)
To avoid problems with flashing roms it might be useful to s-off your phone so that you can change your hboot
1 option is the wire trick (a,b,d )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
or follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124142
Edit thread reported because of wrong forum
Will most likely move to q/a soon, just to let you know
Quantenhall said:
This is what q&a forum stands for...
Anyway:
If you only want root, the easiest way would be to follow the htcdev.com instructions to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery afterwards. Then just flash a superuser.zip and you're done
(A+B from first link)
To avoid problems with flashing roms it might be useful to s-off your phone so that you can change your hboot
1 option is the wire trick (a,b,d )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
or follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124142
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And I can later unroot it and put it back to normal if there will be a hardware fail so I can send it to sevice?
Thanks for the links and stuff
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If your phone is still working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
(If you did the s-off steps)
If you used htcdev they will always know that you unlocked your phone, but that seems to be worse than it actually is:
If you are not sending your phone to HTC directly, but to where you buyed it, they will most likely not look for that
If your phone is completely broken they can't proof that it was your fault (or they dont do it because its too much work) and if there are issues that have nothing to do with rooting, etc like a broken screen or similar they still have to repair it with warranty
(That's what I believe,but it might be difficult in some cases and different in some countries)
Quantenhall said:
If your phone is still working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
(If you did the s-off steps)
If you used htcdev they will always know that you unlocked your phone, but that seems to be worse than it actually is:
If you are not sending your phone to HTC directly, but to where you buyed it, they will most likely not look for that
If your phone is completely broken they can't proof that it was your fault (or they dont do it because its too much work) and if there are issues that have nothing to do with rooting, etc like a broken screen or similar they still have to repair it with warranty
(That's what I believe,but it might be difficult in some cases and different in some countries)
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Well that is a problem... :S
If I send my phone, I send it to my mobile provider, then they send it to a authorised htc servicer...
I really don't care if I loose it, IF the phone would work like it should (this is my 2nd evo, the fist one visited the service 7 times, and the new ones 3D isnt working... :S )
Im gonna call them tomorrow and ask them how is it with the unlock...
Do I have to do the s-off?
I just want a stock android because sense is slow...
Maybe a link to a really simple android 4.0 + ?
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No rom discussions on xda/evo forum, sry :/
The most used jb roms should be the ones from johnnyslt(cm10.1), helicopter88 (several aosp roms) and agrabren (4.1 , a bit outdated)
For 3d cam you have to use a sense rom
The gsm forum is full of roms, try them yourself
Without s-off some ROMs/kernel can make problems and you need it to change your hboot
This is needed because with some hboots (1.53 for example) you can't use ROMs that are not based on sense 3/3.6 (+viper afaik)
mrsofa said:
Hello!
I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory) I just cant work like this. Someone would say, google it... I have a life, I don't want to google every single thing I don't understand.
I rooted a nexus with ease, this is just insane.
Sorry, im just not impressed, tried to root it a lot of times, it always ended me loosing my temper. Worst manufacturer for unlocking. Allready unlocked a psp, a samsung, asus, ps3, wii...but this is just stupid..
Anyone wanna help me out? Give me a link to a good tutorial?
Or just let me dump the phone?
Thanks...
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I have a htc evo 3d. With warranty and I don't want to loose it in any way because I want to root it.
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Sorry, but just unlocking your phone destroys it's warranty. So if you want your warranty, don't unlock it and root it.
The thing is... Why do you guys make it so complicated? Why are there so many steps they are not explained too well (put the files into c:/android --- which files, and why don't I have a c:android directory)
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You are supposed to download the Android SDK files, and then drop them into C:\Android, like it says, easy enough for a 6 year old to do it.
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Also, it's complicating so idiots don't break their phones or get screwed over by giving complete access to the phone with a simple click of a button in an application.
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You are supposed to download the Android SDK files, and then drop them into C:\Android, like it says, easy enough for a 6 year old to do it.
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Also, it's complicating so idiots don't break their phones or get screwed over by giving complete access to the phone with a simple click of a button in an application.
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Noone said where to put it... it just said, like it is normal to have the android sdk installed...
And htc is probably the only phone that has this procces so long and confusing
Just confess that youre a htc fan boy and cant confess a single fail.
Why does samsung or asus have the unlocking process much easyer then? And why can I still get my warranty on them if I lock them back up? I can just say that htc is the worst phone ever...
mrsofa said:
Noone said where to put it... it just said, like it is normal to have the android sdk installed...
And htc is probably the only phone that has this procces so long and confusing
Just confess that youre a htc fan boy and cant confess a single fail.
Why does samsung or asus have the unlocking process much easyer then? And why can I still get my warranty on them if I lock them back up? I can just say that htc is the worst phone ever...
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Lol, I'm not an HTC fanboy at all, you're just, well, dumb. All you're doing is whining about how HTC phones are "hard" (they're not... lol) and the fact that you clearly void your warranty like it says when you're unlocking the phone. Just because the company is actually smart and does things right, doesn't mean they're bad. It just means you can't cope with how things really are and want everything to be perfect and dandy, but you can't have things your way some times.
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Lol, I'm not an HTC fanboy at all, you're just, well, dumb. All you're doing is whining about how HTC phones are "hard" (they're not... lol) and the fact that you clearly void your warranty like it says when you're unlocking the phone. Just because the company is actually smart and does things right, doesn't mean they're bad. It just means you can't cope with how things really are and want everything to be perfect and dandy, but you can't have things your way some times.
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Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
mrsofa said:
Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
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Well, I'm not going to bother with you at all . You're pretty arrogant for trying to keep the thought of all phones being the same. HTC is their own brand, they make their phones how they wish. If you're not smart enough to run a few lines in command prompt then don't keep trying because it looks like you're not even willing to try it out. I can tell you right now, that unlocking your phone is so simple it's not even funny, you're just not looking into it and worrying about it being easy.
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Well, I'm not going to bother with you at all . You're pretty arrogant for trying to keep the thought of all phones being the same. HTC is their own brand, they make their phones how they wish. If you're not smart enough to run a few lines in command prompt then don't keep trying because it looks like you're not even willing to try it out. I can tell you right now, that unlocking your phone is so simple it's not even funny, you're just not looking into it and worrying about it being easy.
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Nope. Why make so many steps? Why waste half of my day for this? No thanks!
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Nope. Why make so many steps? Why waste half of my day for this? No thanks!
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Well, because that's how HTC wants it to be. Phones aren't simple anymore, get over that fact.
'Blu said:
Well, because that's how HTC wants it to be. Phones aren't simple anymore, get over that fact.
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Htc isnt simple. Enogh now. Im gonna call htc service tomorow and find out how it goes...
mrsofa said:
Didn't lost the warranty on the samsung and asus. The end.
Are you even sure about what you are saying?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Dont even start saying that with a htc you can do it faster. This is a toolkit, a couple of clicks and youre done.
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No offense, but thats a nexus. It doesnot matter who manufactures the Nexus device, they all are so easy to unlock. Even if HTC makes one it would be easier....
and the methods change from one device to another even if they are from same manufacturer (if you are doing it the unofficial way ofc)
hey... plain and simple if you don't want to loose your warranty. LEAVE IT ALONE!. I have 3 HTC phones all unlocked, rooted and running custom roms. to me it was easy! i just read everything i could to make sure i understood. i watched videos and just did it. to me it sound like you are just scared (which is ok) but just leave it alone if it is that big of a deal!
jaredl45600 said:
hey... plain and simple if you don't want to loose your warranty. LEAVE IT ALONE!. I have 3 HTC phones all unlocked, rooted and running custom roms. to me it was easy! i just read everything i could to make sure i understood. i watched videos and just did it. to me it sound like you are just scared (which is ok) but just leave it alone if it is that big of a deal!
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Yes im scared, when I see something and dont understand it...i just cant go like : wgatevery, lets try like this...
Anyway... called tge service, I loose warranty if I unlock it, but if I lock it back when the device needs service then its not a problem
My strategy, I read everything I can 3 times before I try it. I also read every problem and read the solutions so I know how to fix it. Once you do it, you will say, that was easy. Once you actually understand what every step does and means, your brain will capture the info easier and it will make sense. An remember, if you break it, chances are someone else has a fix for what you did because they did the same thing.
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Tried with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNoL_EPJH9I
I sent the code to htc, and got a unlock code and get this error:
sending 'unlocktoken' (0 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.143s]
writing 'unlocktoken'...
FAILED (remote: unlock token check failed)
What? What?
There are like 5 steps. Don't tell me to try again, done it 5 times already.
Using win8 is this a problem?
You must be to stupid to follow the guides. I would say. Stop asking for help on rooting your evo. And stop talking sh*@ about the procces. Go and buy and buy an iphone they have jaibreak guide for dummies.
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Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
JaB062 said:
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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There are lots of tutorials in the Development forum on how to do this.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT preinstall method is the one IS SAFE and FUNCTIONAL
JaB062 said:
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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you need to do more reading, no one uses superoneclick for the atrix... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1165791
Read the stickies..
Have you ever opened the android dev section?
Almost everything is in the sticky thread of clown.. With faqs guides etc..
Unlock your bootloader depending what atrix you have(att or international), then install the tenfars port of CWM4, and then you can root using the CWM root method..
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JaB062 said:
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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To build on your Microsoft comment...............Some software is not compatible with all versions of Windows. The Atrix came out with Windows 95, has made it to XP, and with GB will be Windows 7. If you are not happy with the devs work, what they have done for everyone, and can't filter through the threads to get what you want, maybe you should get an iPhone and stick Cydia on it!......Or get a Windows phone because you won't have to "fix" anything on it!
If you want help, then you have started out the wrong way. Your post needs to be objective, and not flaming all the work others have done because you can't implement any of it, and are confused.
Root, ROM's, etc., do not need a bunch of fixes............you just have to READ so you know which ones work together for what you want. If you had actually taken the time, you would know that the bootloader has been unlocked, root is working, and GB is awesome. You just have to check the instructions for what you want on your Atrix, whether it be AT&T, Orange, Bell, etc.
Personally, I am on an AT&T Atrix 4G with unlocked bootloader, rooted, with GB 4.5.91, and have absolutely no complaints ot problems!
Since you don't want to F around, watch that door................it's heavy and swings closed fast.........wouldn't want it to hit you between the buttocks on the way out!
Bell ATRIX, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running 2.3.4. No problems
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JaB062 said:
Have been reading any and all Rooting Posts and I have come to the conclusion that as of now, Most, if not all of the Rooting techniques are a shot in the dark.
If there is one good way that is reliable and doesn't screw up one thing or another than I have not seen it.
Example......Superoneclick....works on one phone but not the next....Roms....need more fixes to get to work than Microsoft.....
Tell me is there a proven way to unlock the bootloader, Root the phone and get Gingerbread to work fully ?
I may be new to this site and believe me I would love to have a open phone....But I have other things to do than F around trying to get a already KickAss phone to work.....Just saying....
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Thanks for the post, gave me a nice lol. I lol'd.
anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
Post in the q&a and you'll find out. Plus revolution really is not hard if you follow the video.
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jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
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Wrong section, please pay attention to where you are posting next time.
In regards to your question, there really isn't an "easier way". The AlphaRev tool is one of the easiest I have ever seen. I suppose if that is too hard you could void your warranty and go the HTC route(Not Recommended).
i already did it with HTC. i want clockwork or something.
*sigh*
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Your fellow posters are correct. If you have a question, ask it in... wait for it... Q&A!
In the future, please do your best to help keep the site nice and tidy. You will gain a greater sense of self-worth and everyone will appreciate you and write poems about you and your progeny. Thanks!
ugh i want CWM installed
jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
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Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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dastin1015 said:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
Sent from my HTC Hero making C.R.E.A.M.
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thank you! ugh i really hope it does, i hate not being rooted.
Shoulda used Alpharevs revolutionary. Sorry. Not bein a ass. But you may have to wait awhile. Give it some time someone will fix it for ya.
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You will see claims from people in these forums that they were able to root and install recovery using HTC's unlocking, but those are false claims. All of those posters had been previously rooted using revolutionary.io. No one that took the OTA on a phone that hadn't previously been unlocked have been successful installing a custom recovery.
Basically you have an unlocked bootloader, now you will have to wait for someone to come up with an exploit like "rage against the cage" from the Evo to unlock the nand and attain s-off. If you had the original Evo 4g you will remember that in order to root you had to use unrevoked or Toast's method. Something similar to that will now be needed.
For those reading this your best option is to hold off using HTC's unlocker and if you haven't taken the 2.08 update use revolutionary.io to unlock your phone and if you did take the update or have a phone that came with the update, wait for an update to revolutionary.io.
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Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
JDAWS said:
(So what 10) Oh I can root my phone I'm so cool now! Really son? You probably wear your star trek costume at the same as worshipping your phone! Get a life
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Please look up.
TaurusBullba said:
Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
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lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
SayWhat10 said:
lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
TaurusBullba said:
I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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Amen! I totally agree.
Furthermore, vBulletin, phpBB, Wiki* and most technologies used to share and publish information and content are just terribly inefficient in regards to topics like these (Android, rooting, development, tech, etc.). Newcomers simply can not come into forums like these and find the info or content they want consistently. You can tag, break stuff up into sub-forums and make stickies like 3M 'til your blue in the face but until you fully understand a noob's thought process and behavior and have the software reflect that we forever will have these problems.
One temporary resolution is to try to change the one variable we can change in this equation. That is to try to cease the negative comments since we already know noobs and their questions are a constant.
Do not use the HTC root method, just use the Revolutionary method and before doing so download and copy TWRP and a ROM and flash in HBOOT\Recovery
root with s-on
Like an idiot, I unlocked my bootloader via official HTC way. I have not rooted my phone with revolutionary, my phone was completely stock. I was able to flash CWM via fastboot and install superuser via CWM.
Anyone here on xda used this successfully??
re:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...2777-evo-4g-lte-1-22-651-3-root-easy.html#anb
WTF do people take DEVs threads and post them on the her sites is beyond me. Rega's name want even mentioned. His thread was copied and pasted word for word. And the guy mentions its not his work and thanks to the guys who made it. Jezz, seriously irritates me. Not you lol. Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
reverepats said:
Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
ronnienyc said:
Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
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Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
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Yes, I have used Rega's tool on other phones in the past. I just didn't know this was available for this 651.3 version on this phone.
Just started using the Evo LTE about a week ago, and I am hoping to instsall Mean ROM to make it a little more responsive
Also, my phone already says "TAMPERED."
Is there any way to get rid of that?
reverepats said:
Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
eddy0090 said:
Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
fachadick said:
Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
eddy0090 said:
gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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will do thanks much!
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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no, you're not incorrect - HTC will have the devices information on file as part of the token, but they will not have your name and registration information. This does not prove that the phone was unlocked, only that the unlock information was requested for your phone. As an fyi also, the fine print states that htc specific warranty may be voided by unlocking, not that it will be.
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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They will only have a record that you REQUESTED an unlock code. There is no way they can prove that you actually USED it, unless your device obviously says "UNLOCKED" or "RELOCKED" in the bootloader (which it invariably will until S-OFF is achieved for the new HBOOT).
Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
EDIT: Also see above
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Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I guess if you don't want to pay Sprint the $35 to have them fix it, then yes, you'd have to send it back to HTC, but if they determine there's nothing wrong with the phone, they just send it back to you unfixed, and at your expense. That's why I'm going to try and never send anything back to them .
reverepats I never took any credit it was not brought up on AC before so I was just trying to help people out because there was a lot of threads of people asking how to root the new update so i dont get why your mad about this? Far as being a word for word copy it was not so dont go there some things may be close but I put up a link to his thread and gave credit
Greetings! I hope you are having a fine day!
I am writing this to try to alleviate future issues for some of you.
Sunday night, I posted instructions for installing a certain update manually. Now, I am S-Off, and just assumed when I wrote it that anybody else flashing stuff like that would be too. This was apparently my mistake.
So in an effort to try to prevent future problems I am writing this, and hoping many of you will read it, and pay attention. Although I know that usually doesn't happen.
So, here we go:
If you are planning to manually flash anything other than a ROM, you should be S-Off. There is no excuse not to be, and no reason you shouldn't do it.
First, it's completely reversible. Second, it removes the "Unlocked" message from your phone.
It prevents the mainver older issue.
It lets you pretty much flash anything you want, whenever you want, as long as the phone is physically able. This means, if you flash something and it goes wrong, you can flash backwards to what you had before.
After S-Off, you DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK!!!!!! I cannot say this enough. S-Off is a step beyond unlocking. This is why we do it!
Reverting to S-On is as simple as flashing a full, released, OTA RUU and issuing a fastboot command to change the flag. Although the only reason I could see to do that is to return the phone.
If you aren't sure that a set of directions apply to you, ask first!
If you are following the directions, and something goes wrong, STOP!!!!!! Do not guess what to do, or try to go backwards unless you know for a fact it will work. Go online and ask for help. If you ask properly, somebody will help you. Some people live for the chance to help others.
When asking for help, say what you had before you started, what you were trying to do (with a link), what step you were on, and what the unexpected result was. POST THE EXACT MESSAGES!!!! Not an abbreviated version.
If a post does not specify that you need to be S-Off, read through the instructions before you start. If you see anything to do with a PH98IMG.zip file, or going into HBOOT, assume you should S-Off first. Simply to be safe.
I know this was all disjointed, but I was simply posting my responses to issues I see all too often that could easily have been avoided, or resolved much easier.
So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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Exactly. Plus educate yourself.
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also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
Thanks for the write up.
To be honest I am not sure what to do to update my firmware from that 100mb ota after reading that thread several times. Or if I even need to if I don't have a use for the gsm stuff. I am s-off though.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I am running ics firmware on the viper rom.
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
Sent into the innertubes from my Arnova 10 G2.
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Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
Sent into the innertubes from my Arnova 10 G2.
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While everything you said is true, people just need to be nicer to each other. We are all here to help each other, no need to be mean about it. :highfive:
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also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
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Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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wlmeng11 said:
Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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I ruu'd that morning. I was playing mw3 and I completely spaced. It's all good now so does it matter?
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OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
synisterwolf said:
OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
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It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
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It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
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Google?
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86shelby said:
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
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With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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I agree more people need to read and remember the rules and posts like this as well. Thank you for posting this, however i do disagree with one thing. I recently upgraded my firmware to the ICS update OTA(not the ICS update itself but the update that was pushed shortly after) which updated my hboot to 2.27, Locked. All is fine until I needed to flash a boot.img because of boot manager. No big deal until I get a "remote not allowed" return on a fastboot flash boot boot.img command. For some reason I can not for the life of me create a flashable zip to be flashed in recovery, and I'm too lazy to take my sdcard out to put a PH98IMG.ZIP file on there to flash boot.img in bootloader. So I had to unlock my bootloader to perform the fastboot command needed to get my phone back. Until there is a patched hboot 2.27, you will need to unlock your bootloader, or downgrade to jb_hboot. Just my 2 cents...
Great post. Thanks for writing it up.
I tried numerous times to get s off, and it just didnt work for me. I dont have a land line or a spare phone so I am very dependant on my phone. I can't have it in non working phone.
I appreciate all the work the drvs do and all the people who help us out to make our phones top notch. However, I do like how the devs have s on and s off roms
I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
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You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
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I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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That's definitely talking down to people. It's a big wave of arrogance emitting from this thread. Keep in mind a lot of these dudes are young Btw.
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I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
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Actually, bricking your phone, as unlikely as that is, is less likely when s-off since there are more options to recovery if you mess up.
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Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
BlindSession said:
Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
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1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
Sun90 said:
1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
Sun90 said:
well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
Sun90 said:
the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
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Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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I have read the rooting methods, and again reading it slower, I am not sure about this busybox thing, i think where i am getting confused because it doesnt seem to pop out to me saying if its ok to uninstall busybox and if i did would it still be rooted. I really dont some program running in the background to keep it rooted.
I have been writing software for over 5 years and i figured that this would be a walk in the park. Sit me infront of visual studio and i am a wiz with c#/Asp and sql, but with this i feel like complete noob and i am in actuality. Which is irritating me.
The reason behind having the desire to root this phone is because it should have been done when i got it unlocked 2) because with a rooted phone i have more options and control over this phone 3) because i dont know how and for being able to program that i should be able to do this. It seems like a different ball game and in all honesty knowledge is power and what i dont know how so it is a need to know how to do it. regardless if i wreck the phone, trial by fire i suppose. I cant learn if i dont attempt it and make the mistakes. When you learn how to do something and have come across making mistakes you tend to keep the knowledge more and appreciate what is learned.
Sorry, I got on my soap box on trying to justify doing this lol. But I do appreciate what you suggest. But Im going to try it and hopefully bring me out of my noob status lol.
i will keep you posted
Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
Thanks for the praise.....
I ask myself every day....is rooting really that difficult?.Is this xda or facebook?.Whats with "life stories" included in posts?.Have all them guys that created stickies/guides wasted their time cos noobs/donks like you dont read them?.
And guys like Sun90 are helpful and intelligent....theyve helped me out before.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
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hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
Sun90 said:
hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
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Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
BlindSession said:
Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
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:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
Sun90 said:
:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
BlindSession said:
Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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You won't lose root if you factory reset. Only way to unroot is to flash stock firmware again.
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Thanks Spiralzz
So right now i followed the instructions, i have odin running. I have the phone itself in usb debugging... but it looks like odin froze up..its at SetupConnection and hasnt continued. Could i be wrong and it takes time? Its been in this state for about 5 minutes now.
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Ok well, i wasnt successful. Odin came back with a fail. It came back 3 times failing.
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