So I just got my nexus today and wanted to reserve judgment for a couple of days but couldn't help myself, mostly because I'm looking for answers. Out of the box I actually prefer the materials used for the nexus. The back has more grip to it but still manages to feel premium. The speaker grills are deceiving because sound only plays From the very top of them. The nexus is wider so it might just take some getting used to but for the time being it is a bit awkward to hold in landscape orientation. Watching movies that are intended to be in high def are actually sharper looking on the iPad than they are on the nexus. Both YouTube and Netflix movies. These are less complaints and more just differences I noticed
...That said my real gripe is with the chrome browser because this is what I find myself doing with the tab most frequently. Safari and even chrome on the iPad were buttery experiences. Even chrome on my note 2 is fantastic but for whatever reason chrome on the nexus 10 gives me unbearable load times, and once its loaded scrolling up and down web pages is painfully choppy and basically has a load time of its' own. I'm wondering if anyone else is in the same boat as me as far as the browser goes and what their solution was. I was going to root and flash cm10 but would like to stay in rooted so that I can use my time Warner Tv app. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate your help thanks.
Try a custom ROM / custom kernel combination. I'm currently on AOKP [PUB] / Trinity Ten and have nothing but smooth performance across all my apps, good battery life, etc. Also make sure you use a youtube app that can support HD. You might have better results with the above. YMMV
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Download Boat browser. It's fast and wastes less on screen space
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I also notice my WiFi is extremely slow compared to all my other devices connected to the same network
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So I just got my nexus today and wanted to reserve judgment for a couple of days but couldn't help myself, mostly because I'm looking for answers. Out of the box I actually prefer the materials used for the nexus. The back has more grip to it but still manages to feel premium. The speaker grills are deceiving because sound only plays From the very top of them. The nexus is wider so it might just take some getting used to but for the time being it is a bit awkward to hold in landscape orientation. Watching movies that are intended to be in high def are actually sharper looking on the iPad than they are on the nexus. Both YouTube and Netflix movies. These are less complaints and more just differences I noticed
...That said my real gripe is with the chrome browser because this is what I find myself doing with the tab most frequently. Safari and even chrome on the iPad were buttery experiences. Even chrome on my note 2 is fantastic but for whatever reason chrome on the nexus 10 gives me unbearable load times, and once its loaded scrolling up and down web pages is painfully choppy and basically has a load time of its' own. I'm wondering if anyone else is in the same boat as me as far as the browser goes and what their solution was. I was going to root and flash cm10 but would like to stay in rooted so that I can use my time Warner Tv app. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate your help thanks.
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Get the aosp browser on there. Its butter smooth. Also go to developer options and turn on force 2d rendering.
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Get the aosp browser on there. Its butter smooth. Also go to developer options and turn on force 2d rendering.
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Where do I get asop browser
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Where do I get asop browser
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Alot of custom roms have it pre-installed. Otherwise search for a thread here that will show you how to download and install it.
Cosign on aosp browser. Best browser to date imo.
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my real gripe is with the chrome browser because this is what I find myself doing with the tab most frequently. Safari and even chrome on the iPad were buttery experiences. Even chrome on my note 2 is fantastic but for whatever reason chrome on the nexus 10 gives me unbearable load times, and once its loaded scrolling up and down web pages is painfully choppy and basically has a load time of its' own
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Here's the thing with iPad browser compared to Android; Apple values UX above everything else, so as soon as you touch your finger to the screen, iOS devices stop EVERYTHING and handle the scrolling process exclusively making it nice and smooth. When using Safari, for example, if the page is half-loaded and you touch the screen and start scrolling, iOS stops the page from loading and will not load anything more until you release the screen. Sure, that gives wonderfully smooth scrolling, but it means it won't finish loading the page until you stop scrolling...
On Android, however, while Project Butter does raise the priority of the surfaceflinger and HWComposer, the pages still load when scrolling. On sections of the page that have already loaded it should be just as smooth, however if you scroll to a section that needs to be loaded, Android browsers will all load this section of the page while still scrolling, resulting in a small amount of jutteriness as the scrolling, rendering and loading processes fight for CPU priority. It's getting better as the OS slowly makes better use of multiple cores, but that's the basic jist of it.
This is all paraphrased from an Android development engineer as background explanation of Project Butter and iOS vs Android scrolling experience. (sorry if this is explaining what you already know, I figure the info could be useful to other people as well)
Anyway, as for Chrome vs other browsers, I personally HATE Chrome for Android (it messes up the rendering of lots of sites, only renders at quarter native resolution and loads mobile phone versions of sites by default), and so I use Dolphin Beta instead, which is incredibly smooth and fluid for my uses!
Ok at this point I'm starting to think that the nexus 10 has an issue with wifi and connecting to some routers. After googling about wifi issues it returned way too many results to be a coincidence. My dads got an up touchpad that I put jellybean on and that thing is having absolutely no issues. This isn't an android issue this is definitely a nexus 10 issue. Every other device in the house connects flawlessly but the nexus could take a 30 seconds to google something and a minute to load theverge.com. I think I'll get it replaced. If the replacement has the same issue ill hang onto the ipad. Maybe get an up touchpad
You could try chrome beta too, its what I use and since then I haven't looked back.
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You could try chrome beta too, its what I use and since then I haven't looked back.
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I'm happy with Chrome beta too.
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Ok at this point I'm starting to think that the nexus 10 has an issue with wifi and connecting to some routers. After googling about wifi issues it returned way too many results to be a coincidence. My dads got an up touchpad that I put jellybean on and that thing is having absolutely no issues. This isn't an android issue this is definitely a nexus 10 issue. Every other device in the house connects flawlessly but the nexus could take a 30 seconds to google something and a minute to load theverge.com. I think I'll get it replaced. If the replacement has the same issue ill hang onto the ipad. Maybe get an up touchpad
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Dat definitely sounds like a problem. What rom are you using? If you are using stock and having this kind of problems, maybe your N10 is a lemon :crying:
@thatg: if you keep the N10 and want to root, there is a modified version of TWC-TV that will work. I don't have a link handy, but there's a thread here where you can download it.
Later: found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604776
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Oh boy typical iPhone fan boi crying wah wah wah
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Oh boy typical iPhone fan boi crying wah wah wah
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Its people like you that give android fans a bad name.
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Ok at this point I'm starting to think that the nexus 10 has an issue with wifi and connecting to some routers. After googling about wifi issues it returned way too many results to be a coincidence. My dads got an up touchpad that I put jellybean on and that thing is having absolutely no issues. This isn't an android issue this is definitely a nexus 10 issue. Every other device in the house connects flawlessly but the nexus could take a 30 seconds to google something and a minute to load theverge.com. I think I'll get it replaced. If the replacement has the same issue ill hang onto the ipad. Maybe get an up touchpad
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Disable Wifi power saver. My wife has an ipad 4 and she loves my Nexus 10. Every time I turn around she is using it. Wouldn't be a problem if I enjoyed using her Ipad 4 but I don't like it. I tell her she should have got one, but she says: " I don't want to mess with it, I just want to take it out of the box and use it." Whereas I like to play with settings, tweak, and flash different ROMS. I like to customize my experience. Doesn't sound like android is for you.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but Firefox will solve your problems perfectly. Its bloody fast and renders just as well as chrome. No need to root or anything, just grab from the play store and you're done. This is assuming you don't have a hardware defect. FYI, Chrome was unusually slow for me as well, but I haven't bothered to try again since using Firefox.
I would also suggest using something like the speedtest app while standing next to your router and making sure all other devices/computers are turned off - if that app is being slow under these conditions it may in fact be a hardware problem.
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WiFi is always a PIA but there is no issue specific to N10's, in fact I can get better throughput using it than any other I've ever owned...including my iPad 3.
Its important to note that WiFi is a protocol, not a specific product. Consequently there are many implementations, from many different parties. Not all implementations are compatable unfortunately.
Best advice I can give is to turn any 'speed boost' modes off, ditto using a wider frequency band. Turn any compatability modes available on. If all else fails, try a different router. If you're getting issues with all routers, you may have a fault with your device.
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WiFi is always a PIA but there is no issue specific to N10's, in fact I can get better throughput using it than any other I've ever owned...including my iPad 3. ...
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I totally agree with you. Eventhough I do not have an iPad to compare with the first surprise I had with my N10 was how much faster it was than my old Galaxy P1000, both using the same N only network/router. Web pages almost exploded onto the screen with the N10. My router is a ASUS RT-N16 using the latest Tomato-USB firmware, it is not even a dual-band router.
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Once in a while my Nexus 10 feels a little sluggish. Not to mention the crazy amount of freezes. While I can't say if this has addressed the freezing issue, my Nexus 10 feels more zippy.
Thanks to the OP from this thread
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Hi all,
I recently upgraded to 4.2q on my Nexus 7, and I experienced a lot of lag on it. I was browsing the Internet, and I found this fix which has worked well for me, and now I have no lag. I don't know if this has already been posted here.
This is what I found on the internet:
If you’re one of the poor users experiencing major lag on your Nexus 7 after the Android 4.2 update, here’s what you can do to remedy the situation:
Open your app drawer
Open Google Currents
Click the three dots in the top right corner of the app
Tap “Settings”
Uncheck “Enable Background Sync”
Reboot your Nexus 7
That’s it. You shouldn’t experience anymore lag and you probably won’t even need to reboot. For me the difference was night and day. I went an extra step and disabled the app completely just in case. If you want to disable Google Currents for good measure, you can do so by going into your main Settings menu, clicking Apps, swiping to the All category, clicking Google Currents, and then clicking Disable. (If you do this you won’t be able to use Google Currents anymore, but at least your Nexus 7 will be back to normal.
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This could just be a placebo effect but something is definitely different. Anyone else see a difference?
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Did'nt see much difference on my N10 but made a nice difference on the Wife's N7..Good stuff!
It was the new Nexus 10 tablet I had just ordered a few days before, the 32GB model. I shrieked like a little girl as I raced to the front door, still in just my underwear, and snatched it from under the doormat and flew back inside, like one of those trap door spiders.
More like a placebo because N10s IO is rather high , while N7's is poor as hell so it lags when nearly every background process is in action even when donwloading and installing from playstore. A better tip would be to activate Developer settings by tapping your build number in "about device " 7 or 8 times ,than check "force gpu rendering " and after this you'll feel the real difference
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The GPU rendering made a huge difference! Thanks!
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Might be placebo effect here too, but I think that made various things smoother, can't quantify it but it just feels better!
Is the forced GPU rendering going to kill our batteries?
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I have found that enabling Force GPU Rendering actually made my N10 more sluggish and caused a lot of force closes. Would not recommend that method at all. Will try the currents method right now. Also, do not use Chrome right now on 4.2. It has serious stability issues at the moment for whatever reason.
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...Also, do not use Chrome right now on 4.2. It has serious stability issues at the moment for whatever reason.
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Chrome never crashed for the short time I use it
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Chrome never crashed for the short time I use it
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Same here. smooth as butter
If you're rooted, you can also go into Titanium and Freeze it.
Oddly I found that GPU rendering seemed to kill some stability with my Nexus 10.
Reading this thread, disabling currents I figured i'd give this option a shot. In the 3 hours after I enabled it I had 3 crashes - the screen flash, then go into long reboot routine. One was using Chrome(Yeah - I know bad me), another was while using Gmail, and the last was while it was just sitting there on the table not being used.
Disabled Force GPU rendering and was able to surf/play/etc for 4 or so hours after without a single crash.
Individual experience perhaps as I see quite a few people are using the GPU rendering option without a single issue. Just something to toss into the mix.
I did what you said, and it has worked for me too. Currents, settings, off GPU rendering. Thank you big time.
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I agree with the chrome comment. Love the chrome features, but on my n10 and gnex it is slow to the point of unusable. Using dolphin on both.
As a tip I use bookmark home app to create bookmarks on the desktop. Makes it simple to switch between browsers. Of course, wish chrome was better so I had my bmarks synchronized across all devices but...
Going to make sure force gpu is off (pretty sure I turned on) and check google currents. Good tips.
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The Exynos 5250 is still a new SoC, the tablet will start getting better in the future.
As an update 24 hours later and not a single crash since disabling the Force GPU rendering. Went back to Chrome(yeah bad me again... but just wanted to see if I could duplicate it) and still no crashes.
Odd how on some it works great - seen many posts saying it helped their general smoothness and others (like mine) it kills stability.
Also agree with future OTA/rom development/etc all these nuisances will be cleared up.
The Web is still full of sites which use Flash which is why Adobe are still supporting Flash on Windows laptops and desktops for the forseeable future.
On Android there is excellant desktop support for Flash using premium browsers such as Dolphin, Skyfire, Boat etc. which provide the same Web experience on the Nexus 10 as using a Windows laptop or desktop.
However, because Apple does not support Flash then the iPad will never be able to use the Web as well as the Nexus 10 or a Windows laptop or desktop no matter how many apps there are to compensate.
Erm...okay?
so what's the question... xD
This. If only Flash was dying, but it isn't. Half the web is Flash, and if you want streaming, an OS that supports it is a must.
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This. If only Flash was dying, but it isn't. Half the web is Flash, and if you want streaming, an OS that supports it is a must.
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Not exactly a question lol. Are you trying to state that the Nexus 10 is better for browsing because it can support Flash?
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Not exactly a question lol. Are you trying to state that the Nexus 10 is better for browsing because it can support Flash?
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Sould I state my opinion with question marks? Hell, why not?
Which devices gives you the more complete browsing experience, the one that can display all pages and content, or the one that cannot?
You do know that browsers like skyfire and puffin are available for the iPad as well and support flash pretty well right?
Neither will do it out of the box.Both do it with 3rd party apps.
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You do know that browsers like skyfire and puffin are available for the iPad as well and support flash pretty well right?
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Yeah but Adobe had longer support for Android, so I'd imagine flash content is more stable even post-ICS.
Apple has 3rd party apps that support flash as well.
I would typically not be using flash in day to day Web browsing, and don't have my primary browser set to support flash.
Both tablets are pretty good for Web browsing. The n10 loads pages very quickly. I prefer the aspect ratio of the n10 for Web browsing compared to the iPad.
I don't care about flash
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Who cares if the iPad can't run Flash. Flash is being deprecated all over the web. I don't have any special love for Apple but you can credit the iPad's lack of Flash for most of the video sites offering HTML5 instead.
I haven't bothered to install Flash on my Nexus 10. Not missing it at all.
What gives you the most complete web experiance ? The the new surface rt lol. What is the point of this post it is pointless and only brings up android vs apple.
Some one please close this thread its people like this that give android a bad name.
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Can anyone confirm this for me as I have not got a ICS or later device (yet).
If a website has a menu structure where the user hovers the mouse to get the menu to pop up on desktop, if the root of the menu had a link in android you could never get into the menu structure because whenever you press to bring up the menu it actually redirects you to the page, whereas in iOS it does not do that and will bring up the menu.
That is one disadvantage I have with Android, if there is a fix that I am not aware of then yea inform me
Ok aside from flash, my big concern after owning a tf300 is just over all expereince..the tf300 was slow...tried every browser and it just wasn't as responsive. i know that most people blamed the I/O on the TF300.
At work we just got a shipment of Ipad 4's and just messing with them and surfing the web it is very fast and fluid. Can i expect the same from nexus 10? I konw the Chrome browser is not the best, but maybe using Dolphin or boat?
I have only seen a couple of youtube video's testing this
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Ok aside from flash, my big concern after owning a tf300 is just over all expereince..the tf300 was slow...tried every browser and it just wasn't as responsive. i know that most people blamed the I/O on the TF300.
At work we just got a shipment of Ipad 4's and just messing with them and surfing the web it is very fast and fluid. Can i expect the same from nexus 10? I konw the Chrome browser is not the best, but maybe using Dolphin or boat?
I have only seen a couple of youtube video's testing this
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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Thats good news, thanks for the info!
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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I tried to get a video demonstration on Ocean Browser but I couldn't find any. Not many comments on it either, that's one rare stuff, any review of it around?
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I tried to get a video demonstration on Ocean Browser but I couldn't find any. Not many comments on it either, that's one rare stuff, any review of it around?
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No luck here either, would love to see one
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Apple has 3rd party apps that support flash as well.
I would typically not be using flash in day to day Web browsing, and don't have my primary browser set to support flash.
Both tablets are pretty good for Web browsing. The n10 loads pages very quickly. I prefer the aspect ratio of the n10 for Web browsing compared to the iPad.
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Good 2 know, thx
Anyone else notice that touch input seems to be very delayed on this. Like it you swipe it doesn't keep up with your finger nearly as well as my galaxy nexus or nexus 7 does. Not refering the choppiness, refering the this input lag the nexus 10 has. It very frustrating and its really bad.
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Anyone else notice that touch input seems to be very delayed on this. Like it you swipe it doesn't keep up with your finger nearly as well as my galaxy nexus or nexus 7 does. Not refering the choppiness, refering the this input lag the nexus 10 has. It very frustrating and its really bad.
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Absolutely zero finger lag here. Is the only issue when you're browsing the web and trying to scroll? Chrome and Dolphin had some pretty major 'finger lag' for me. Ocean has none. Absolutely zero. If you're only experiencing this lag in web browsing, try Ocean !
Only response lag I see is when browsing in Dolphin. Only issue I have with the browser at this point. Rendering and loading are still very fast. Fastest I've seen on Android.
There's definitely input lag on my Nexus 10 too. It scrolls smoothly (mostly) but the screen doesn't keep up your finger when you scroll quickly. Scrolling doesn't feel as snappy and immediate as it does on my S3. I've watched a couple of video reviews where this has been commented on, and it's particularly noticeable when compared with an iPad. Its not bad enough for me to want to send the device back, but it's there.
No noticeable lag on mine.
Are you running the stock launcher or nova/apex etc? I found anything other than stock gave homescreen lag
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No lag here either; may want to try a multi-touch tester and test for latency with that.
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Are you running the stock launcher or nova/apex etc? I found anything other than stock gave homescreen lag
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Stock and trebuchet both of which run fine. It happens in the browser and settings menu as well. Its smooth. Its just an input lag.
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Try run and test it without a screen protector, some of these so call "screen protector" really degrade the user experience of devices.
Huge amount if finger lag is experienced with many PDF reading apps when I try to read mags. Adobe reader, ezpdf, moon reader...all lag, just to name a few.
THe chrome lags, it lags on every device out there and needs a lot of work. There is no input lag anywhere else for me on this device.
I have it in the aosp browser as well and the home screens. Its smooth. Its just the input is delayed.
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This is a real problem. Its literally like a half second behind sometimes.
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I tested this through Chrome - Dolphin and Ocean with the new Google News tablet website.
Chrome - Lagged tremendously on the news.google.com site to the point there are 2 second freezes before moving. Works fine on Reddit.com and XDA (noticeable at slightly at times)
Dolphin - Significantly less lag but still noticeable at times. No lag on any other website
Ocean - I could not get the tablet version of news.google.com to work, any idea how? It's got Android set up as its client so it definitely sees it as mobile... No lag on any other website.
The new Google News website is pretty awesome.
There is input lag on nexus 7 aosp browser. I click on something in google and it doesnt work until i double tap to zoom in then zoom out and text kinda reflows and then allows me to click on the links. Version 4.2.1
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What I mean by lag in this thread is the finger input itself is delayed. Scroll and watch how it trails behind your finger by so much. Its always like a .25 to .5 seconds behind.
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What I mean by lag in this thread is the finger input itself is delayed. Scroll and watch how it trails behind your finger by so much. Its always like a .25 to .5 seconds behind.
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I feel particularly sensitive to input lag. Ever since I switched from my iPhone 4S I can't seem to ignore it.
I have both a Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 and input lag seems about the same on both of them to me. Not everyone seems to notice it when I show them though but it's definitely a jarring experience for me every now and then.
I feel as if it's like FPS gaming input delay. When there's minimal delay, it feels like the game is just an extension of your body. If there's a decent delay it makes usage a bit annoying sometimes. Totally usable, awesome features but just wish they'd have a look into this problem with project butter.
I feel particularly sensitive to input lag. Ever since I switched from my iPhone 4S I can't seem to ignore it.
I have both a Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 and input lag seems about the same on both of them to me. Not everyone seems to notice it when I show them though but it's definitely a jarring experience for me every now and then.
I feel as if it's like FPS gaming input delay. When there's minimal delay, it feels like the game is just an extension of your body. If there's a decent delay it makes usage a bit annoying sometimes. Totally usable, awesome features but just wish they'd have a look into this problem with project butter.
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I actually think this is one aspect that got worse with project butter. Specifically the smoothing of finger input applied. Before it used to use the raw finger input. Now it adds steps in between two points and that causes some of the delay.
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I am experiencing a similar issue with my nexus 10, there is a 1/2 second touch response delay. So it is almost impossible to play any game such as pinball. I have tried many difference apps, so it wasn't app's issue.
For some reason the touch keyboard work perfect fine!
I just requested a replacement from google. Hopefully it is just isolated issue.
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I am experiencing a similar issue with my nexus 10, there is a 1/2 second touch response delay. So it is almost impossible to play any game such as pinball. I have tried many difference apps, so it wasn't app's issue.
For some reason the touch keyboard work perfect fine!
I just requested a replacement from google. Hopefully it is just isolated issue.
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I had the same problem and i figured out that the problem started when i turned on magnification in the developer section of the settings. i turned it off and the home screen and apps are lag free once again. hope this helps (though probably a little late).
Okay picked my tablet up two days.
1. Light bleeding in the right and lest lower corners (landscape mode)
2. Lag while scrolling in apps well choppynes. apps I know work fine they don't do it on my galaxy note 2 or my galaxy s2.
3. Extreme heat and frame rate drops during games.
Could the lag issue be the cause of my tablet being on 4.2 so they aren't tuned for it? Would you guys be willing to test out apps I'm having issues with? I am rooted and have twrp installed I purchased my tablet from Walmart not sure if that matters don't know if they use inferior parts. Now would I return it keep I mean I mister have the best and when my 3 year old phone runs better on alpha there is a problem. Are there roms to make it run better? I wish it ran better than it does i mean its such a beautiful tablet. what do you guys think? should i keep it or return it and pick up an asus tf700
It depends on the apps, I don't mind testing them.
Many/all of your questions have Been addressed, so I'd suggest browsing around for more information. But I feel like testing handwriting recognition so here we go.
It depends on the ROM you install and how much of a performance gain you expect to get. I only got my tablet back today, prior to sending it in I was running AKOP with kt's kernel and it ran great, but I wouldn't discount other ROMs I simply haven't installed them yet.
It's difficult to compare the tablet to phones because it's pushing so many damn pixels, so its harder on the internals to keep up with a much smaller device with way less pixels. That said, IMHO your expectations of the Nexus 10 are going to frustrate you beyond belief with the TF700. All the build quality issues were worse in my experience, and stock performance is alright until you open a Web browser or try to download something.
The tablet is the same no matter where you buy it, they're all made by Samsung.
Throw a ROM and kernel on it and see how you feel about it. I own a Note II and I've been very happy with the Nexus 10's performance running a display like what it's got sitting on the front.
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It depends on the apps, I don't mind testing them.
Many/all of your questions have Been addressed, so I'd suggest browsing around for more information. But I feel like testing handwriting recognition so here we go.
It depends on the ROM you install and how much of a performance gain you expect to get. I only got my tablet back today, prior to sending it in I was running AKOP with kt's kernel and it ran great, but I wouldn't discount other ROMs I simply haven't installed them yet.
It's difficult to compare the tablet to phones because it's pushing so many damn pixels, so its harder on the internals to keep up with a much smaller device with way less pixels. That said, IMHO your expectations of the Nexus 10 are going to frustrate you beyond belief with the TF700. All the build quality issues were worse in my experience, and stock performance is alright until you open a Web browser or try to download something.
The tablet is the same no matter where you buy it, they're all made by Samsung.
Throw a ROM and kernel on it and see how you feel about it
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Thanks for your response i have done a little reading nothing on the laggy scrolling and for gaming its hit and miss ass is the light bleeding. So im trying to figure out if its worth keeping or just sending back, If you don't mind my asking why did you send yours in what was wrong with it? I am afraid to flash because if i don't like it then i can't return the tablet since the custom binary with have a counter. ugh. for the apps with choppy scrolling theres facebook and then residentevil.net mobile you have to search apps for it its in the play store then select dlc at the bottom. My phone scrolls just fine through that app but not the tablet with i don't know if its because my tablet is a newer version of android or what.
And your thing for the tf700 i wasn't understanding what you were saying, were you saying its worse than the nexus?
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Thanks for your response i have done a little reading nothing on the laggy scrolling and for gaming its hit and miss ass is the light bleeding. So im trying to figure out if its worth keeping or just sending back, If you don't mind my asking why did you send yours in what was wrong with it? I am afraid to flash because if i don't like it then i can't return the tablet since the custom binary with have a counter. ugh. for the apps with choppy scrolling theres facebook and then residentevil.net mobile you have to search apps for it its in the play store then select dlc at the bottom. My phone scrolls just fine through that app but not the tablet with i don't know if its because my tablet is a newer version of android or what.
And your thing for the tf700 i wasn't understanding what you were saying, were you saying its worse than the nexus?
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I sent mine back for Backlight bleed and Multi-Touch issues. More detailed information on that here.
I personally don't really use either of those apps, but i'll give it a whirl. The residentevil app could be a variety of issues, app related. Facebook on the other hand hasn't had a real great track record of making the fastest app, so it might be working well on your phone because it's just pushing it though. However thats all speculation, and not really a valid "answer". I'll be happy to test them out though.
The TF700 is something I could rant about for a long time, but basically it's slow when web browsing and downloading large files because of the internal memory ASUS decided to throw at it (for whatever reason) is slow and basically causes the tablet stop for short periods (a second or less, but annoying because they are so frequent). The 7 I went though also had light bleed worse than the N10 before I sent it back, screen lifting, and in one the power button just disappeared. Thanks to the Infinity, I still can't do returns at Best Buy for about another month.
So your no longer on a nexus 10? Also the xda premium
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No I've still got it, just received it back from Samsung's repair center.
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Just in general my tablet is running slowly and sluggish in apps. It runs just fine in the settings menu and while scrolling through my app drawer
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Reading from various articles and comments from users it seems that
1) There seems to be a bit of dropped frames and stuttering.
2) The GPU sometimes struggle to handle the high res.
Is this the case? How smooth would you say it is really 90% of the time?
I have no issues with lag or studdering, save for the occasional hiccup when I used Chrome. I simply installed AOSP browser and all is well.
Can u install the aosp browser on the stock Tom?
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90% of the time it's literally as smooth as the definition of the word 'smooth' can be. Literally couldn't be any smoother.
The ONLY time it isn't 60 frames per second smooth are when you are either using chrome or hitting a throttling point when posting an intensive game, hopefully the lat err well be fixed.
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90% of the time it's literally as smooth as the definition of the word 'smooth' can be. Literally couldn't be any smoother.
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+1, except for my purposes this is a conservative figure. I've been using this heavily for a few weeks, and it's been incredibly smooth about 98% of the time. Handles beautifully, battery life has been great, and I keep thinking of more ways to use it in place of clunkier pieces of tech. One of the best purchases I've made in a long time.
Had it about 24 hours now and it is very smooth.
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Reading from various articles and comments from users it seems that
1) There seems to be a bit of dropped frames and stuttering.
2) The GPU sometimes struggle to handle the high res.
Is this the case? How smooth would you say it is really 90% of the time?
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It's probably the smoothest device ever when it is smooth. All of the tasks I do, it handles well. Games like NBA Jam, Anomaly Warzone, etc.. have no problems at all (I've seen more intensive games in YouTube, but those aren't particularly my type so..). I'd say about 95% of the time it is darn smooth, way smoother than when I got my GNex out of the box. The 5% isn't 'stuttery' or 'laggy' -- the device becomes crippled to the point that you sleep it and it won't come back on anymore and you'd have to force a reboot. This happens mostly with Chrome.
Its like butter the majority of the time. Do yourself a favor, dont use chrome and disable Google Currents. Then try to find a faster tablet on the market right now. You wont.
Install ktmanta kernel and its even smoother using his governor . also you can change the the thermal limits ..
No more throttling so far
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Can u install the aosp browser on the stock Tom?
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I assume you meant stock ROM and got auto corrected. But yes, its possible to install AOSP browser on the stock ROM. I've done it on my N10. You'll obviously need to be rooted, as you need to copy the apk to system/apps.
I recently discovered Ocean Browser courtesy of this forum. That really made this tablet the smothest computer I've ever seen.
Its buttery smooth, just srsly dont use Chrome on it as of yet, such a let down, froze ny tab twice.
Got paranoid on it now and im happy with it.
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It's pretty smooth, but not Nexus 4 smooth. If you're just kind of using it lackadaisically then it's very smooth. However, once you start going all Bruce Lee in it, you'll notice the stuttering and dropped frames. I'm not complaining - I like multitasking, but there's certainly room for improvement.
Maybe I see it more because I have multiple accounts (which is a buggy right now) and both accounts are eating up a lot of memory?
EDIT: By the way, I use Chrome and like how it works - that may be a contributor based on what everyone is saying. Having said that, Chrome seems to work really well on my N4. It's not the fastest browser, but it's fast enough and I like how it functions.
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It's pretty smooth, but not Nexus 4 smooth. If you're just kind of using it lackadaisically then it's very smooth. However, once you start going all Bruce Lee in it, you'll notice the stuttering and dropped frames. I'm not complaining - I like multitasking, but there's certainly room for improvement.
Maybe I see it more because I have multiple accounts (which is a buggy right now) and both accounts are eating up a lot of memory?
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Please define "bruce lee". Is it when you play a game? When you have multiple apps opened? when you are using the mulitasking menu? Youtube?
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Please define "bruce lee". Is it when you play a game? When you have multiple apps opened? when you are using the mulitasking menu? Youtube?
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Yes, multiple apps, multitasking. Again, don't forget that my wife has her own account so that may contribute to it.
Ironically, I just spent ~5-mins (after a fresh boot) trying to recreate the stutter without using Chrome and found it a bit harder than I thought .
Here's what I did:
- Open Dolphin -> Load The Verge
- Open BeyondPod -> Just scrolled through the updates
- Open YouTube -> Watched a review for 10 seconds
- Open JustPictures! -> Click SmugMug account -> Noticed some stuttering loading initial thumbnails (smooth after that)
- Hit Home Key -> Swipe to reveal another desktop -> Some lag getting to the other desktop, same thing going back.. .cleared up after 2-3 swipes back/forth
TBH it wasn't terrible and not worth complaining about, but this is also after a fresh boot. After hours of my wife using it in her account and me using it in mine, I notice these things a bit more often.
It's probably worth noting I may be overly critical since I'm pissed about some of the glitches which happen in the tablet (i.e. apps crashing in the main account, unknown reboots, etc). When trying to recreate the problem the tablet was actually damn smooth - I surprised myself
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Alright... I've been using the n10 for at least an hour now. My wife was using it previously to play songs to our son, etc. It definitely stutters and lags somewhat often. Just strolling posts up and down in Tapatalk HD it stutters/skips frames. Could be a poorly written app? Maybe, but it's a white screen with nothing but a bit of text. So yeah, I stand by what I said originally.
Full disclosure, I did use Chrome, but I'm not evaluating smoothness in that app, nor immediately after it.
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Alright... I've been using the n10 for at least an hour now. My wife was using it previously to play songs to our son, etc. It definitely stutters and lags somewhat often. Just strolling posts up and down in Tapatalk HD it stutters/skips frames. Could be a poorly written app? Maybe, but it's a white screen with nothing but a bit of text. So yeah, I stand by what I said originally.
Full disclosure, I did use Chrome, but I'm not evaluating smoothness in that app, nor immediately after it.
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I use tapatalk on my Gnex, and the HD beta on my N10. The lag you're describing appears to me to be associated with the way the app must retrieve messages to display. Unlike a web page that is fetched completely, it appears that tapatalk is fetching a group of messages at a time...essentially on demand message retrieval. I attribute the lag to the app having to request the next group of messages before it can scroll down and display them.
Not 100% positive about this, but it seems likely to me. Aside from this and the occasional chrome seize up, I have no lagging with my N10.
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I use tapatalk on my Gnex, and the HD beta on my N10. The lag you're describing appears to me to be associated with the way the app must retrieve messages to display. Unlike a web page that is fetched completely, it appears that tapatalk is fetching a group of messages at a time...essentially on demand message retrieval. I attribute the lag to the app having to request the next group of messages before it can scroll down and display them.
Not 100% positive about this, but it seems likely to me. Aside from this and the occasional chrome seize up, I have no lagging with my N10.
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Thanks for your reply... The tablet was fine since last night, but after I posted, went into Chrome and it froze causing a reboot. I'm going to live w/out Chrome for a while and see if that's more of a culprit than I give it credit for.
By the way I think you're wrong about tapatalk. Even if it does work as you describe, then after loading, I should be able to scroll up/down without the frame skips, yet that's not the case.
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