Is anyone having issues with 'tinny' and distorted sounding audio while streaming via A2DP? I'm using a Blackberry audio gateway that worked flawlessly with my old G1 but with the Vibrant I find the audio quality so appalling I can't even listen to it. It's definitely not a question of the volume settings being too high. It also does this for EVERY program so its a global problem, possibly with the bluetooth stack. For now I'm coping with the 1/8" jack but thats starting to drive me nuts.
Anyone experience this? Is there a way to force the stack not to use A2DP or other protocols?
Yes A2DP sounds bad for me as well. I'm using a kenwood bt-200 made by parrot for my kenwood head unit and the audio is distorted at higher frequencies and it's missing a lot of mid bass. With my wifes mytouch the same setup sounds excellent.
Samsung released an update for improved A2DP streaming in korea so maybe well see it here as well? Like you I've just been using an rca cable for audio because A2DP is simply unusable with the Vibrant.
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The more I listen to it the more I think its a volume/clipping issue than an encoding issue. Thank christ I'm not alone I was beginning to suspect I was being a whiney brat about the quality.
I just tested the gateway with a third phone and it also works flawlessly. Getting frustrated...
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So does anyone have experience extracting files from Samsung .rfs files? I'm trying to do so via adb and failing miserably. I'm hoping to snag the new bluetooth.apk from the 2.2 developement build from Samsung to see if it has the sound quality updates.
Anyone?
I'm trying to determine if it's just the crappy TouchWiz Music Player they replaced the default Android player with. When I stream from other apps it sounds noticeably better (like Last.FM or Pandora), and I tried the Cubed player for a comparison of MP3 audio and it also sounded better.
Have any of you done a comparison like that?
I carried over the heavily modded cyanogen music player and besides that I use slacker. Still sucks.
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Yep pandora, slacker, and the music player all sound terrible through A2DP.
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Czar, keep us updated!
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Phone fell on it's face when trying to use the experimental bluetooth files. Wouldn't boot or respond to anything. Going to restore my nandroid backup and call it a night. Looks like we'll have to wait for the update...
If anyone can offer some more insight in regard to what I should do with the files please let me know.
It looks like the Vibrant isn't the only Android phone suffering A2DP quality issues. Please vote on Android issue 9888 if you are experiencing subpar A2DP audio quality from your Android device!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888#makechanges
Thanks for the heads up. Honestly sounds like a Bluetooth 3.0 issue with android now. Just shocked so few people are complaining.
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Hi I am running CyanogenMod 11 nightlies on my Droid DNA and whenever the volume is over half on the external speakers, the bass makes a "slapping" sound (similar to what you'd hear in one of those overly loud car stereo systems). Anyways, this has begun to get pretty irritating and I'm wondering if anyone has come across this problem or has any solutions. I've checked the DSP manager app that comes preinstalled on CM and bass boost is turned off and all the settings look fine to me.
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Alex
EDIT: I found a solution, use a root uninstaller to delete the DSP application, reduces the speaker crackling and bass slapping effect.
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Hi I am running CyanogenMod 11 nightlies on my Droid DNA and whenever the volume is over half on the external speakers, the bass makes a "slapping" sound (similar to what you'd hear in one of those overly loud car stereo systems). Anyways, this has begun to get pretty irritating and I'm wondering if anyone has come across this problem or has any solutions. I've checked the DSP manager app that comes preinstalled on CM and bass boost is turned off and all the settings look fine to me.
Regards,
Alex
EDIT: I found a solution, use a root uninstaller to delete the DSP application, reduces the speaker crackling and bass slapping effect.
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Also you can use Viper4Android instead of DSP.
You try using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211163 with clarity speaker option? It worked on my DNA to reduce the bass distortion. I used it on sense, so don't know how well it works on AOSP
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I've used viper4android in the past as well as dragonaudio on my m8 & m9. Dragon is out of the question, but has anyone tried anything else before I go on a flashing spree to avoid any soft bricks. ;-p.
If not I'll post my finding when I find something good. The audio sounds good in this stock ROM but I have issues with skipping while connected via Bluetooth.
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I just tried the stock music apps EQ and it increased the headphones volume and gave nice clear bass. As of now I don't see a need to get any other audio mods. I am listening to Hip Hop BTW. Im coming from a Galaxy S4 and their built in EQ made the volume quieter and made the audio terrible. Good job to Huawei developers again.
Would be nice to try viper4android to compare.
Skipping
Skipping will stop if you use the stock music player. For Bluetooth resume there is an app called "Bluetooth connect and play." Works like a charm on the 5x.
Yes, Max has finally released a test build (790) to replace 704 so those who like it, log in, download and test away. Read the first page for notes and assess any bugs. I have installed it but at work so no chance to use it yet.
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...te-read-first-post-before-commenting/?page=20
Remember you MUST have a Poweramp forum account and log in to get the download.
I usually use Jet Audio HD but got a bug where it doesn't allow Tom Tom navigation to override audio focus for voice prompts so at present using Player Pro as my daily driver. Here We Go navigation works ok with Jet and Player Pro works fine with either so there's something funny between Tom Tom and Jet.
I hope the new Poweramp works ok, there are bugs and missing features so I will keep the others installed and assess Poweramp as Max addresses the bugs and rolls out more features.
Edit: Having a play with it at work, boss has left for the afternoon.
Whilst my work BT speaker (Jawbone Big Jambox) aux in is connected to my Axon 7 by wire and I played with output settings in Poweramp, set to use Audio Track, I get a marked difference in speaker volume output when switching between Headset HiFi Standard and Super in the phone audio settings. This is working better than before. I'm only on MP3 though so harder to assess as the files are not Hi Res but if I set the Big Jambox to max volume and the phone to max volume then switch from Standard to Super it's much louder and does sound better. That Jambox really cranks on this! It will overload the aux in and I have to set it back two notches so seems to be playing at too high a voltage for the Jambox input jack. Need to play with this some more. Will have a listen on my Backbeat Pro headphones tonight and also in the car on it's HiFi as that has a great dynamic range and quality with BT and wire.
Install it as a secondary player due to missing features. Max the dev will be adding stuff as things progress but I find it not quite fully functional enough to call a daily driver. I feel it's less bugs, more just not all features added and expect as he hears feedback will slowly add them in.
Here's my test setup. Dedicated page aside of my home screens with app shortcuts and widgets for easy comarison listening.
Got it yesterday. Sound-wise, it's solid. Audio flinger reports proper playback at the selected sample rate.
I had some issues with the volume whenever I got a notification even with "Audio ducking" and "short notification interuption" disabled. The volume drops, but never comes back up. I've seen on the PA forum that disabling "Float32" in the OpenSL HD settings (even if you're using Hi-Res output) fixes it. Haven't tested this yet, though. Will do it when I've got my IEMs with me.
Other than that and the obvious UI bugs, it's a good step forward, despite taking 2 years to do it.
Interestingly, the actual volume control behavior was fine on my phone. I have issues with Jet Audio though. It doesn't mesh with Tom Tom navigation app voice prompts. Got fed up with that despite the rest of it working well and great sound and have been using Player Pro for a while. It behaves reliably and now adjusted, sounds great too. Both Jet and Player Pro sound better than Poweramp for me. I have PP set as default player and is on auto start up.
I emailed Jet Audio and Tom Tom about my issue. Tom Tom have been in contact. Nothing at all from Jet. I'll probably end up uninstalling Jet.
I tested this briefly, to say it's a beta preview is an over exaggeration. It's an alpha and is way more alpha than 704. I use Poweramp near everyday and love it but I tried testing 790 but there is so much missing functionality it is just no good for a daily driver. Shame both couldn't exist on the same device, I wouldn't mind testing it then!
TBF I thought that max would have been further on with its development after the time it has taken. I know he is working on this by himself so kudos to the guy but it is so unfinished, for me, it's back to stable 704. I will try again in May with the next test build.
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Yeah, so much functionality missing, I still have it installed but it just doesn't sound as good as Jet or Player Pro for me so the point of having it at all is questionable. Max took so long to get this far with it that others have risen to the top instead.
It reminded me of Neutron a little. You have to really fiddle with it to get good sound. With Player Pro the settings are simpler but just what I need and the good sound is there. Pity the skins are ugly.
With Poweramp, I don't like the wavebar and no skip buttons. The widget wasn't fully functional etc, just not enough I liked in it for a 2 year wait. Will uninstall. See how it goes once worked on further.
Just from curiosity I had a listen with VLC. I have it for video. On wired output it's not great but did sound very nice on my backbeat pro 2 headhones over bluetooth. Not a good audio player though.
After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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After a few days with Poweramp and finally making the jump from Nougat to Oreo, I'll have to agree. It's more alpha than the previous alpha. I lost the Hi Res option after installing AEX 5.4. Quite disappointing but it's expected. To me, anyways.
I'll keep an eye on development but I'll be using UAPP for now. Simple UI, Hi Res works great and it sounds awesome. Hopefully Max is able to refine and polish PA in less time it took him to make it.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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I had another play with it last night, found that just need to route everything through HD off the QC SoC. I mostly use bluetooth these days so 24 bit off the SD820 is fine. I could lose the DAC finally and not really worry but not ready to give up the 3.5 jack though..... Sometimes it's handy.
I had 2 Poweramp widgets on an extra homescreen and couldn't remove them. Had to uninstall the app to get rid of them. Too much broken functionality but with polish I think it will be good overall.
Edit: I'd like to know how the AKG DAC is implemented in this phone. It's almost as if it routes through the DAC if using HD and Super is enabled so it may not matter what the music thinks as long as it uses hi res?
The more I use new Poweramp the better I like it. Makes me want the missing functions implemented. Definitely not giving up on Poweramp.
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I didn't get anything of what you said here, but i'll tell you what i know:
-poweramp won't output hi-res in Oreo, and it will happily tell you that it is - hence, you have to use dumpsys media.audio_flinger as always
-What do you gain by routing everyrthig through the low power DAC? (Again, ZTE said it's a DAC inside the AK4961, not SD820). I wonder if that DAC actually works with 24-bit, but at least it is specced that way.
-What do you mean by the last paragraph? The DAC will output whatever kind of sound you input it, it won't "only" play hi-res.
Btw it's AKM, AKG is a headphone manufacturer
Other thing: Disable hi-res output. Use the normal OpenSL output. That way it'll sound just like good olde Poweramp
If I go back to OpenSL it sounds markedly inferior.
I keep mixing up AKG and AKM lol.
What I meant was if I have the phone set to output on Super setting and the music app is using Hi Res it does seem to sound louder and better in general, as if the phone just puts it through the AKM DAC anyway, despite the app thinking it's using the SD820. With Poweramp 790 alpha the phone will still overload the input on my car hifi when at full volume so it seems it's using the DAC, not the SoC.
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Hi-res never worked. Now it's the same as before, it'll tell you it's working but it's not (it's written though, hi-res doesn't work in Oreo).
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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As in the output setting is completely gone after jumping to Oreo. I did get the Hi Res on 704 to work when I was on 7.1.2 using either the samsung uhqa cheat or lenovo hifi cheat. It wasn't true hi res, but there were differences when I swapped between the sample rates. So it still "worked" in a way.
790's hi res worked on 7.1.2 but it looked like it was detecting the qualcomm DAC and not the AKM. I might have to resend the hi res request in the Poweramp forum.
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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In my case (8.0.0) it is there. Sound is worse with it turned on though (much lower volume basically)
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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I think it is an Oreo thing. As soon as I went from RR-N to RR-O I noticed my headphone volume dropped significantly. I'd love to know the solution
What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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What do people recommend for HD audio using the DAC? I'm using the RR remix ROM and have Viper installed. I guess Play Music uses the DAC? I've only ever used Poweramp
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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Do you have volume issues with other players? Because ever since I installed Oreo 8.1, the volume's dropped quite significantly across the whole phone. UAPP and Poweramp play at really low volume now. Could be an Oreo thing or an Ainur thing. I'm not sure.
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Nope, that's most definitely an Ainur thing. If you installed Poweramp beta, be sure to disable OpenSL ES HD output (supposedly hi-res) because that will lower the volume quite a lot.
Also install the B32+B10 bootloader if possible. That one seems to have fixes for audio.
In stock Nougat it's fine. I turned volume to max and switched between. The volume steps are different but max is fine. I found it sounded better with Float32 switched on.
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USB Player Pro. In one of their recent updates, they added support for DAC chips on phones. Axon 7 included.
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No way, the first and only time I tried USB Player Pro it literally killed my SD Card (I don't understand how)
I've been trawling Google Play and revisiting music apps. It seems Onkyo HF Player has had a bit of a revamp. It's getting quite good now. It has widget and notification functions etc. Still no auto start though. One thing I like is it shows the output in now playing. With my backbeat pro 2 cans in wired mode and turned off the app is playing a 44.1KHz MP3 and upsampling to output at 48K. If I go into phone sound settings and turn on Dolby Atmos then go to the headphone setting and switch between standard and super there's no difference. If I turn off Atmos and switch from standard to super it gets louder and soundstage expands. Interesting....
It still has that great user configurable parametric EQ too
Playing a hi res WAV or FLAC also shows on screen. I assume the Axon 7 won't output above 48K though? I suspect this is running off the SD820.
So if it plays above 192K what does it signify? Nothing?
Or the DAC?
Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
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There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
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Yeah I got the phone, saw the stuff in the devs. To answer everyone's question, there is a built in EQ, but you have to open Spotify to use it (not sure if GPM or Pandora work). It's not terrible, but certainly not as good as V4A. And to respond to your question, I don't think the signal transfer is really touched with an EQ. The EQ adds bass and lets me adjust my mids to the way I like them. Like I said, my head unit is garbage. The EQ practically does nothing to improve bass or mids. At first I thought it was the speakers but it isn't. Thats why I wanted a built in EQ on my phone, until I get a new head unit at least.