[GUIDE]Xamarin-Build-Android-Apps-With-C# - C++ or Other Android Development Languages

Hi guys, you want to develop android apps too? also you can C#? Then It's good, U don't need JAVA anymore.
Requirements* Working Computer
** Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 / 2012 or XAMARIN or Mono Develop
**Mono Android
**Android SDK
**You should know the C# language
**Gtk for .Net ----- http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Components-Libraries/Gtk-.shtml
Then let's start.......
Installing Android SDK
1- Go to this site
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
2- Download and Install it ----Choose 32-bit or 64-bit ------(If you don't know, Right click on My Computer then properties....see the pic below)
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3- After the installation
Go to start menu----All Programs---Android SDK Tools---SDK Manager
4- First tick Tools, Extras and install them
5- Install any Android version you want to develop
Creating a AVD Android Virtual Device
1- Go to Start Menu---All Programs---Android SDK Tools--AVD Manager
2- Press New
3- Give any name you want, but without spaces
Choose the target that you create this AVD to....I chose to Android 2.3.3
Enter the Size of SD card that you want to create
You can customize the resolution
LCD Density/Max VM/Ram size change according to your need
4- Press Create AVD
5- Just Close it
Installation Mono Android, XAMARIN
1- Download Mono Android 4.2.6...Here is a trial version http://download.xamarin.com/MonoforAndroid/Windows/mono-android-4.2.6.103999197.msi
2- But in order to use it with MVS you need Business Version or Higher, Mod Edit: no cracks..., but If you like it please buy it to support them.
3- If you don't have the Business version of Mono Android then you can download XAMARIN from here....http://xamarin.com/
4- Now you have done all.....
5- Open MVS or XAMARIN, choose new project , Mono for Android then select Android Application, press OK
6- Start Developing Now and Good LUCK:good::good::good:
Happy CODING!
Samples BELOW
If you are satisfy with the cracked ones after you used them, please buy it.

Nice guide
will try

Hpsgill said:
Nice guide
will try
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of course you should
if have any problem, just ask Good Luck

I'd do it if it didn't cost $300/year for an Indie license if my app get's too large

This is amazing thing, but if they can make it with VB.net then I will be best app developer for Android

Are there any advantages to using this?

monect said:
Are there any advantages to using this?
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I think.....I saw some comments in somewhere, says that this is better for them than developing with JAVA.

nice info...
I just started to learn C# =)

Doesn't this take away the ability to use libraries, and especially hinder the development of a GUI, let alone a nice and extended one?

bassie1995 said:
Doesn't this take away the ability to use libraries, and especially hinder the development of a GUI, let alone a nice and extended one?
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It does take away the ability to use libraries out of the box of course but with some work it's still possible.
Biggest draw back for indies is the license fee as soon as you want to push it to a device. It's only free for emulator deployments :/

Xam335 said:
It does take away the ability to use libraries out of the box of course but with some work it's still possible.
Biggest draw back for indies is the license fee as soon as you want to push it to a device. It's only free for emulator deployments :/
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Does anybody know how this compares with "dot42" - http://www.dot42.com/
It says its free, and seems to do the same thing for c# / android development.

Hotfingers said:
Does anybody know how this compares with "dot42" - http://www.dot42.com/
It says its free, and seems to do the same thing for c# / android development.
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I didn't know that until now. It looks like an interesting alternative. But looking at it also permitted me to refresh my news and Xamarin's solution now use a size cap for the free version (instead of earlier a the limitation to not deploy on devices)
[email protected] said:
I'd do it if it didn't cost $300/year for an Indie license if my app get's too large
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(max 32k of IL code)

Hotfingers said:
Does anybody know how this compares with "dot42" - http://www.dot42.com/
It says its free, and seems to do the same thing for c# / android development.
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This looks very interesting. I'm installing the community edition now. Will report back once I've had a play
Edit: So far so good. I've installed it and built and deployed the "hello world" app to my phone. It was a darn sight quicker than eclipse!

Thank you. very nice article.:good:

ScatteredHell said:
I think.....I saw some comments in somewhere, says that this is better for them than developing with JAVA.
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Well,as some(most) people think /know that JAVA is really hard to learn and has many "holes" it's better to programm in C#......but hey everyone has it's own taste hehehe

8cpaiw said:
Well,as some(most) people think /know that JAVA is really hard to learn and has many "holes" it's better to programm in C#......but hey everyone has it's own taste hehehe
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How come? I've found Java to be pretty straightforward.
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Same here, I find Java straightforward. I started C# as my first language and started Java later on, and it is really identical to C#, just a minor syntax differences here and there.

Cyberz22 said:
nice info...
I just started to learn C# =)
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Glad to hear that I'm still learning too
Hotfingers said:
Does anybody know how this compares with "dot42" - http://www.dot42.com/
It says its free, and seems to do the same thing for c# / android development.
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Thanks, I Installed it...yeah, It's great too
8cpaiw said:
Well,as some(most) people think /know that JAVA is really hard to learn and has many "holes" it's better to programm in C#......but hey everyone has it's own taste hehehe
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Of course, I first tried to learn JAVA myself but due to my bad English I couldn't
So, I just looked at C# and I could grasp it cause I former was VB6 fan
So, many says JAVA good, but for me C#

Guys maybe this is what u guys looking for
http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html

ScatteredHell said:
Guys maybe this is what u guys looking for
http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html
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I doubt they support C# in ndk in any form
NDK is only C++
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Related

New Utility 'CallCalendar'

Hey all,
I recently wrote a new program that you can all have if you want.
This will log all incoming and outgoing calls and publish them as private appointments on your calendar.
This is great for logging when you talked to someone, or you can just go back and edit the new appointment and add notes directly to it.
After you install it you must either launch it manually by browsing to the installed file location, or you may simply reboot your device and it will launch upon the next boot automatically.
Requirements:
Windows Mobile 5 or greater
.Net Compact Framework 2
I have only tested on my HTC Cingular 8525
Link:
http://kingfetty.com/CallCalendarInstaller.CAB
Enjoy!!
Also, let me know if you have suggestions
[email protected]
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Update: A user pointed out a bug with the date in this app, I have corrected this now please uninstall the old and redownload the app and reinstall.
Sounds really cool I am checking it out now.
I am also starting to develop some windows mobile apps. I am a web app developer by trade. All of my professional work goes into developing .NET 2.0 web apps. I just started developing on the compact framework. I find the compact framework to be very easy but I am starting to wonder if I should just focus on C++ for the mobile platform instead. It seems that everything I want to do is done through interop and only the interface is done on managed code. What do you think?
I am new to developing for the windows mobile platform as well, but from what I have found is there is a lot you can do with the compact framework, but the documentation is virtually nill.
That being said, you could still develop using the .net cf 1.0 and not require the 2.0 to be installed as 1.0 is already embedded into the rom.
My personal thought is take advantage of the .net it saves lots of time and coding. I wrote my program in about 3 hours.
Also, let me know if you want my source code, I'll be glad to offer it up.
kingfetty said:
I am new to developing for the windows mobile platform as well, but from what I have found is there is a lot you can do with the compact framework, but the documentation is virtually nill.
That being said, you could still develop using the .net cf 1.0 and not require the 2.0 to be installed as 1.0 is already embedded into the rom.
My personal thought is take advantage of the .net it saves lots of time and coding. I wrote my program in about 3 hours.
Also, let me know if you want my source code, I'll be glad to offer it up.
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Source code would be cool. It doesn't seem to work on WM6 unless it doesn't log outgoing calls. Or perhaps I need to soft reset to get it to work?
I am working on an app to get the time via an internet timeserver. There is one available for $15 but I think I can make a better one myself. Do you have the new SDK with the WM6 device emulators? It makes testing a lot faster for these litttle apps.
Let's get this thing going, this is XDA developers, most people here are like where can I get the latest rom, which is cool but I think we can put our heads together and develop some apps that will solve problems or extend functionality on the platform.
I will gladly offer my source code also. Do you use VS2005?
computer9cowboy said:
Source code would be cool. It doesn't seem to work on WM6 unless it doesn't log outgoing calls. Or perhaps I need to soft reset to get it to work?
I am working on an app to get the time via an internet timeserver. There is one available for $15 but I think I can make a better one myself. Do you have the new SDK with the WM6 device emulators? It makes testing a lot faster for these litttle apps.
Let's get this thing going, this is XDA developers, most people here are like where can I get the latest rom, which is cool but I think we can put our heads together and develop some apps that will solve problems or extend functionality on the platform.
I will gladly offer my source code also. Do you use VS2005?
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I do use VS2005, the WM6 SDK is at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3A-A651-4745-88EF-3D48091A390B&displaylang=en
Did you launch the program when you were done installing it? Do you have the Compact Framework 2.0 installed? A reset of the device will launch the program automatically so if you haven't launched it you could simply reset. Let me know and I would like to get it working for you.
Source Code: http://kingfetty.com/CallCalendarSource.zip
kingfetty said:
I do use VS2005, the WM6 SDK is at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3A-A651-4745-88EF-3D48091A390B&displaylang=en
Did you launch the program when you were done installing it? Do you have the Compact Framework 2.0 installed? A reset of the device will launch the program automatically so if you haven't launched it you could simply reset. Let me know and I would like to get it working for you.
Source Code: http://kingfetty.com/CallCalendarSource.zip
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Ok it does work after a soft reset. That is pretty cool.
I am going to do a little more work on my internet time app then I will release the source code for that also. Right now it is the most basic of apps. I only spent maybe an hour on it. Most of that time was spent looking around on the net for how to use the interop to set the time and whatnot.
I can't load the project, it says something about not being able to load something that doesn't exist in my datastore.
Question, why use VB if you know all those languages? Your resume says that you do all sorts of development. Why o why use VB?
You don't have the WM5 SDK installed
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
Ok I am almost done porting the code from VB.NET to C#.
VB just smells bad. I am going to fully comment the source code with embedded XML also.
I have atacted a picture explaining why C# is better than VB
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computer9cowboy said:
Ok I am almost done porting the code from VB.NET to C#.
VB just smells bad. I am going to fully comment the source code with embedded XML also.
I have atacted a picture explaining why C# is better than VB
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Make a today screen out of it........
well i got the c# version to build but i must have introduced some new bugs because it throws an exception when ending an incomming call
i will get it worked out later
Update: A user pointed out a bug with the date in this app, I have corrected this now please uninstall the old and redownload the app and reinstall.
kingfetty said:
Update: A user pointed out a bug with the date in this app, I have corrected this now please uninstall the old and redownload the app and reinstall.
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I installed your new one and it caused the time recording to be off by -4 hours. I am in EST (-5)
Old one ran perfectly.
Modified CallCalendar
I have taken KingFetty's app and modified it to have more functionality.
* Added menu's
* Configurable to optional minimizing on startup. (Running it again will restore the app.)
* Added a list box to show the records.
* Added the option of recording missed calls as well.
* Added notification. Using WM notification services, it can optionally show a popup when a tracked event occurs. I used this for debugging, but some may like it.
Let me know what you think, and any suggestions for additions.
CallCalendar2
Cool application and pretty simple. Thanks!
Houser
Houser said:
Cool application and pretty simple. Thanks!
Houser
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My pleasure
Update:
I just added call time tracking.
It will keep track of your minutes on outgoing and incoming separately. You can also reset the values when you want. It will remember the values between launches.
Enjoy
Care to post the source as I did so we can continue to contribute and make this better.
kingfetty said:
Care to post the source as I did so we can continue to contribute and make this better.
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Sure, here you go
CallCalendar2 Source
Thanks for the original source code KingFetty, excellent work.
CallCalendar
Hi,
Looks cool, I'll give it a try on my Universal.
Thanks,
Leo

[CANCELLED] XDA-Marketplace (Source-code released & attached)

UPDATE - 20.10.2010
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Due to overwhelming interest in the source-code I've decided to attach it here in the frist post.
Maybe some of you can collaborate, or do your own twist on it.
Some specs:
ASP.NET MVC2 (.NET 4 & C#)
Entity Framework as ORM
SQL Server 2008 (Express used for development)
Scripts for creating database and inserting some dummy-data is included.
Don't expect clean and tidy code. Some places it's a real mess...
Enjoy!
UPDATE - 12.10.2010
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The reason for updating this first post is unfortunately not the reasons I hoped it would.
I'm sorry to say I no longer have the time or energy to uphold the devotion and work required to finish the marketplace site. Being in a full time job, having a life and everything that includes simply does not allow for a project of this scale to be developed in a timely fashion. It's with regret I'm prematurely ending the project, and I'm sorry for disappointing you by doing so.
In addition to the lack of time, it's also a lack of motivation - reason being the introduction of WP7, already existing similar solutions for Android and Apple has it's closed-up AppStore.. I'm just not sure I see the potential I once did.
If anyone would like to have a look at the projectcode, I will more than happily zip it down along with the database script. Please PM me if you're interested.
Once again, I'm really sorry.
[ANNOUNCED] XDA-Marketplace
Hi all!
I have mentioned this in another thread, but wanted to hilight this request.
I`m woundering if there is a chance that some one could make a "XDA Markedplace" for the phone?
So all Themes, tweakes, programs and other could be collected in one place
Would also like to see something similar on this site. All in one place!
Or an external site with categories. Graphics, info and download on the program, tweak, theme etc, and discussion her on the board.
I dont know if some of this things are doable, but i would really like so se somehing similar
-Exlo
a marketplace would be nice, because you could highlight programs as functionalable or not to secific devices or OS!
Some time ago I thought of creating a new marketplace for WM but I'm not so sure if we really need it.
Wow that would be awesome! It'd be like cydia.. only for WM!
Great idea, moreover, nothing to pay to Microsoft for a app on this kind of marketplace, so we can imagine to put others free apps (which are not on the microsoft marketplace)
Ok, so lets say someone will create a new wm appstore/marketplace, which features do you want it to have? So far:
1. Many apps (unlike MS marketplace), including from xda developers.
2. Requirements by OS/tested with devices.
3. Accessible from browser and/or WM app.
What else?
World wide acces to all apps. No more regions!
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Ok, so lets say someone will create a new wm appstore/marketplace, which features do you want it to have? So far:
1. Many apps (unlike MS marketplace), including from xda developers.
2. Requirements by OS/tested with devices.
3. Accessible from browser and/or WM app.
What else?
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4. Screenshots of application
I think this is a great idea. The xda forum is hard to navigate since there's no categories. The forum should only be used as support and beta.
Martin
the main idea was to gather all apps, tweaks etc. in one place since its very hard to navigate in the forum without categories.
Would also like to se a section her in the forum(or external) with categories and graphics.
I have tried to write this many many times, why and how this could be done, but my english is so poor, that i almost couldnt read it my self
doesn't sound hard to achieve, there are so many windows mobile app sites but none it seems really stand out.
If we can create a website which can be accessed via pc, mobile friendly website and also a wm app then we have a winning combination. All we need to start is some web hosting - and that's not exactly expensive. Surely we have enough people on the forum who have the right skills to make and design the various bits.
+1. Great idea.
MarketPlace and its stupid region restriction is so frustrating.
I'm on it
Anyone feel like whipping up some design sketches?
What I have planned so far:
- No login required unless you want to upload your own apps or leave comments/ratings on apps
- Only freeware/donation-apps will be allowed in the beginning
- No limitiations regarding phonemodel or os
- Of course no regions
- Anyone can upload their own apps, update with new versions.
- Commenting and rating funcionality
- Screenshots
At the moment I've set up the database structure, and most of the "business-logic" layer of the application, but no web-interface has been done yet.
I've written the service-layer with an open API in mind - That way we might encourage the more savvy WinMo-developers to create an app for the phone, since I'm no good at that.. I'll make a simple mobile-friendly verison of the web, and I'm also implementing automatic QR code-generation and support for Microsoft Tags for easy scanning and downloading to your mobilephone.
When I get closer to finish, I'll probably open a new thread announcing it, but for now, let's keep the discussion going here.
+10 Spot on...
yngvebn said:
Anyone feel like whipping up some design sketches?
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I was kind of bored.. is this what it could look like (yes, I like green xD)?
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I was kind of bored.. is this what it could look like (yes, I like green xD)?
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I think it looks lovely, could have a block above the categories showing "What's new" "Most Popular" Etc.
+ The App should have a feature to check compatibility of App with device + OS + Custom OS. - This is a must included feature.
+ Ability to add extra sources
Excelent idea guys, the cydia compentence is completly necesary for a new interest, and possibilities for HD2 and powerful hardware and screen multytouch
good idea, keep it up!
greetings from spain!!
Big fan of this project. I would call it the best possible marketplace because of all the support you can get on this forum and although the quality of apps in this forum, but till now it has been quite uncomfortable to follow all these great projects. This could be awesome.
This is one BRILLIANT idea. +5 for this project.
i got to say i think this is the best thing i have ever seen and not only that it will force microsft marketplace to lower its prices, improve and be mroe free like andriod/apple app stores....
can i just ask one thing, could you have phone specific as well for applications like BSB Tweak and all those Touch X cabs and so on, and i was thinking it would also be great if the martketplace had a customizable skin, think of the fun people could have creating their own looks

Cydia Substrate Now Available On Google Play Store (By Saurik) !!!!

You heard that right, Saurik (the creator of Cydia on iOS) has released Cydia Substrate on Android - Available On google play store.
Winterboard is already available now !!!
Some people have inquired about the possibility of having a Google Play alternative, sort of like Cydia is an App Store alternative. While that may sound like a good idea, it’s not absolutely necessary like it was on iOS. With iOS, Apple would outright reject any app or tweak submitted to the App Store. Google is much more lenient on what it will accept, and it has less strict rules about the openness of certain apps. That’s why it is possible for Saurik to submit WinterBoard to Google Play and get approved. There is no absolute need for an alternative like there is with iOS.
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With all of that being stated, I think that an alternate store would be beneficial for a couple of reasons, but one sticks out above all others. I think that a Google Play alternative would be good simply for organizational purposes. On iOS, you know you go to the App Store when you want to download an App Store app, and you know you go to Cydia when you want to download a jailbreak app. The lines are rarely, if ever, blurred. With the Android situation, I can see things becoming a lot more confusing with everything being mixed in together.
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Get It On Google Play Store: Cydia Substrate​
blakstar said:
You heard that right, Saurik (the creator of Cydia on iOS) has released Cydia Substrate on Android - Available On google play store.
Winterboard is already available now !!!
Get It On Google Play Store: Cydia Substrate​
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Does that mean we will have access to ios jailbroken apps? Working on our Android?
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dark ryder said:
Does that mean we will have access to ios jailbroken apps? Working on our Android?
Sent from my ST18i using xda app-developers app
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Not quite. There are some tweaks available, That includes Winterboard (theme chooser for any rom, also use icon packs for any launcher on a stock rom).
This is just the beginning, as you see in the below image. But I hope it turns out to something big.
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you can check it out on google, its a major hit for android, but I guess I won't be seeing it as I no longer own an android device, but an iphone
I did see it... Absolutely ridiculous.. Didn't even work, very poor... There's Xposed Framework for such and much more options... Anyway what have you done ?! Im no fan of iPhone nor the shi*y OS, we chose Android for a reason... And it your choice, enjoy
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I did see it... Absolutely ridiculous.. Didn't even work, very poor... There's Xposed Framework for such and much more options... Anyway what have you done ?! Im no fan of iPhone nor the shi*y OS, we chose Android for a reason... And it your choice, enjoy
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LOL, the iPhone was a present from my uncle, I can't say no. But I'm sure I will return to android some day.
On Topic again...
If you use the Winterboard app found on the play store you can transform your phone into one another, I haven't tried it yet, but people are saying it has issues
Omessy7 said:
I did see it... Absolutely ridiculous.. Didn't even work, very poor... There's Xposed Framework for such and much more options... Anyway what have you done ?! Im no fan of iPhone nor the shi*y OS, we chose Android for a reason... And it your choice, enjoy
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I am terribly sorry it did not work for you, but I will point out that it was just released when you tried it. I will also ask if you meant that WinterBoard didn't work (which is somewhat to be expected: it's kind of hit-or-miss) or Substrate itself. Finally, I will point out that Substrate (in comparison to Xposed) allows you to inject into daemons, hook native code, supports Intel devices, runs on Android 2.3, and has constant-time performance (Xposed gets slower the more hooks you install); while there are certainly more things developed right now that target it for a user, I think it provides many more options to the developer. Over the last couple weeks I've been able to get it rapidly supporting all of the corner-cases people have been throwing at me with regards to random ROMs, so if your issue was with Substrate (not WinterBoard), then I somewhat expect that you might not have issues anymore with a more recent version. (If you are on an HTC version, a workaround for full support is coming in 0.9.4008, to be released to the Play Store later tonight.)
saurik said:
I am terribly sorry it did not work for you, but I will point out that it was just released when you tried it. I will also ask if you meant that WinterBoard didn't work (which is somewhat to be expected: it's kind of hit-or-miss) or Substrate itself. Finally, I will point out that Substrate (in comparison to Xposed) allows you to inject into daemons, hook native code, supports Intel devices, runs on Android 2.3, and has constant-time performance (Xposed gets slower the more hooks you install); while there are certainly more things developed right now that target it for a user, I think it provides many more options to the developer. Over the last couple weeks I've been able to get it rapidly supporting all of the corner-cases people have been throwing at me with regards to random ROMs, so if your issue was with Substrate (not WinterBoard), then I somewhat expect that you might not have issues anymore with a more recent version. (If you are on an HTC version, a workaround for full support is coming in 0.9.4008, to be released to the Play Store later tonight.)
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Saurik I just install and I get an error
My android version:4.0.4/4.1.B.0.431
Hope this can help you to make better
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ian956413 said:
Saurik I just install and I get an error
My android version:4.0.4/4.1.B.0.431
Hope this can help you to make better
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I'm sorry for the late reply. This is actually caused by a bug in your Superuser application, which is stripping library paths from executions of setuid programs. This was fixed in later versions of most Superuser programs, but some people don't have that fix. I actually made a new version of Substrate a while ago that totally bypassed this kind of issue entirely, but for various reasons (mostly life stuff: life sucks sometimes) I did not get around to releasing it. There will be a big update to Substrate in the next couple days that includes this change.

[WIP][GAME] PopNationOnline

Hello guys,
We are a small team which is about to make its first game. It is a realtime multiplayer bubble shooter. So far we have some design tests and almost no coding done. It is going to eventually be released for Android and iOS for both smartphones and tablets.
We are also looking for a good realtime backend API platform. Do you have any experiences with such?
We think we have picked the right ad platform:
www.appflood.com?site=21155
Here's a design test:
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We are hoping to be getting your feedback in this WIP thread.
We already have a site : www.popnationonline.com and a FB page : https://www.facebook.com/popnationonline?hc_location=stream
PopNationOnline said:
Hello guys,
We are a small team which is about to make its first game. It is a realtime multiplayer bubble shooter. So far we have some design tests and almost no coding done. It is going to eventually be released for Android and iOS for both smartphones and tablets.
We are also looking for a good realtime backend API platform. Do you have any experiences with such?
We are hoping to be getting your feedback in this WIP thread.
this looks so awesome !!!
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Oh, thank you! We are working hard so we can make a video of the game in action. We will alsp be revealing some very cool game mechanics as soon as we have them implemented.
Available in China?
I showed this to some of my Chinese friend. They are interested.:laugh: Do you think you can make this game available in China?
obicho said:
I showed this to some of my Chinese friend. They are interested.:laugh: Do you think you can make this game available in China?
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Hi, I've been reading about releasing games in China and so far I am not really sure how to do it. I know there are dozens of app stores other than google play and the app store. Putting the game there won't be a big problem I guess, but the in-game purchases will have to go through the google and apple accounts of the users. Now that I do not know if will be an issue for Chinese players. How do Chinese players pay for games? Do they use credit cards?
Also there is localization which I will do my best to get at least in mandarin and spanish.
If not, the single-player will be free anyway (albeit with ads), while the multiplayer will get a candy-crush style system of hearts you lose for a loss and you have to buy in order to play more.
PopNationOnline said:
Hi, I've been reading about releasing games in China and so far I am not really sure how to do it. I know there are dozens of app stores other than google play and the app store. Putting the game there won't be a big problem I guess, but the in-game purchases will have to go through the google and apple accounts of the users. Now that I do not know if will be an issue for Chinese players. How do Chinese players pay for games? Do they use credit cards?
Also there is localization which I will do my best to get at least in mandarin and spanish.
If not, the single-player will be free anyway (albeit with ads), while the multiplayer will get a candy-crush style system of hearts you lose for a loss and you have to buy in order to play more.
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Releasing game in China is tricky but not impossible.
First you must decide how you are going to make money.
If you go with the mobile ads route, then just find company that has an SDK that provides ads.
If you want in-app purchase, you just need to find a Chinese payment SDK that takes Chinese payment methods.
Google play is not supported well in China so you will have to find a different submission service that takes your APK and send it to all top stores in China.
My favorite is appigniter.com
They have payment and mobile ads SDK. And pays you through your paypal account.
There are others like
papaya
onepf.org
inmobi
All interesting choices but not sure how good they work.
Thank you very much! That did help a lot. We will surely try to include a Chinese payment method, it is a gigantic market after all.
SohanM said:
Hey PopNationOnline
Uploading to each of the app stores in China can be a painstaking process. To make this process easier, you can try App Publish by InMobi. Its free and you will have to upload your app once and your app will be published to around 160 app stores across the world. I think it'll really help you.
Disclaimer: I work for InMobi
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Haha, free advertisement. Still, thank you! I might just end up using it.
I talked to a Papaya representative in China and he was very keen on making me give up the idea of using their payment SDK and dealing with China in general. I found it very strange.

Windows 11 Bugs

Since we will be having more and more folks testing Windows 11,
I thought it would be Fun to start a New Thread Dedicated to Posting Windows 11 Bugs!
Please share anything you discover, be it bluestacks being flipped as evidenced below... hahaha!
or how Camtasia cannot properly separate and / or cut audio right now!!
Give the super nerds a Good Chuckle
This Image is from my MANYgH0$t VM Image.
My guide on installing this image should be releasing today...
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MORE BUGS: AMD CPU USERS CANNOT RUN ANDROID SUBSYSTEM WITHIN THE VIRTUAL MACHINE, I HAVE TRIED MANY COMBINATIONS OF NESTED PAGING, ENABLING AND TURNING OFF VIRTUALIZATION INSIDE THE VM AND OUTSIDE ON THE HOST.
THE INTEL SOFTWARE BRIDGE APPEARS FLAWED IN THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT DO WHAT IT IS PROPORTED TO DO, ON AN AMD DEVICE. EVEN IF IT WERE TO TRANSLATE THE SUBSYSTEM CORRECTLY, IT IS DOING SO IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY IS A REGRESSION.
6 YEARS AGO WE COULD RUN AN ANDROID EMULATOR, WITHIN A VIRTUAL MACHINE, FOR 1 GB IN FILESIZE AND MINIMAL RAM.... WHICH IS 7 TIMES LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE WITNESSING NOW....
IN THEORY, THE ANDROID SUBSYSTEM SHOULD BE INSTALLING OUR APKS ON OUR BARE BONES MACHINES, ALLOWING THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE RAN "WITHOUT" AN EMULATOR.... WHICH IN TECHNICAL JARGON, IS AKIN TO THE HYPERVISOR 1...
BUT IN DOING SO, IT REQUIRES IMMENSLY MORE DATA THAN ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ON HYPERVISOR 2 EMULATORS... WHY???
Is this not a REGRESSION? In theory shouldn't HYPERVISOR 1 PRODUCTS use LESS RAM AND STORAGE SPACE than a secondary product like bluestacks or a virtual machine image??? SINCE THEY ARE BEING INSTALLED DIRECTLY ON OUR MACHINE?? AND NOT IN A PROGRAM??
AGAIN WHAT IS BEING SAID ABOVE IS THEORY AND INTENDED TO SPARK CRITICAL THOUGHT IN THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO READ AND COMPREHEND WHAT I'M SAYING.
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AFAIK Windows 11 knows of the following subsystems
WOW64 ( by default )
WSL ( optional - type: Bare Metal Hypervisor )
WSA (optional - type: Bare Metal Hypervisor )
WSL & WSA aren't emulators ( like Bluestacks ) what run on a Hosted Hypervisor.
Why hypervisors are segregated into two types is because of the presence or absence of the underlying OS:
Type 1 runs directly on the hardware with Virtual Machine resources provided. Type 2 runs on top of the host OS to provide virtualization management and other services, hence it SHARES the hardware resources ( CPU-cores, RAM ) with underlying OS.
Type 1 generates lesser overhead, and any malfunction in an individual VM does not harm the rest of the system. it is a more secure option. Unlike the hosted hypervisor, bare-metal hypervisors do not depend upon the underlying OS.
jwoegerbauer said:
AFAIK Windows 11 knows of the following subsystems
WOW64 ( by default )
WSL ( optional - type: Bare Metal Hypervisor )
WSA (optional - type: Bare Metal Hypervisor )
WSL & WSA aren't emulators ( like Bluestacks ) what run on a Hosted Hypervisor.
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Why hypervisors are segregated into two types is because of the presence or absence of the underlying OS:
Type 1 runs directly on the hardware with Virtual Machine resources provided. Type 2 runs on top of the host OS to provide virtualization management and other services, hence it SHARES the hardware resources ( CPU-cores, RAM ) with underlying OS.
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My question is why is this Android Subsystem Program We have to download and run, on an already humungous in storage operating system, is in essence, no better than the technology we have and have had for many years, the hypervisor 2s... What problem is this new "Android Subsystem" Solving, except One That IT Created??

			
				
I appreciate your replies, I am well versed on the differences between the two. What I want to comprehend better is why we need this version of Windows 11. How does having a hypervisor 1 program inbedded in our host OS just to run android apps Help us, and not hinder us?
I have run apps on windows 11 directly and indirectly on emulators, no noticeable difference, whatsoever!
jenneh said:
What I want to comprehend better is why we need this version of Windows 11. How does having a hypervisor 1 program inbedded in our host OS just to run android apps Help us, and not hinder us?
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My POV:
Nobody is forced to add WSA subsystem to Windows 11 in order to run Android apps.
Anyone can still install an Android emulator ( Type 2 hypervisor ) to run Android apps.
I for one do not use Android emulators like BS anymore: I only use WSA.
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My POV:
Nobody is forced to add WSA subsystem to Windows 11 in order to run Android apps.
Anyone can still install an Android emulator ( Type 2 hypervisor ) to run Android apps.
I for one do not use Android emulators like BS anymore: I only use WSA.
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The point is being missed entirely.... that's okay. I feel WSA is inferior to a bare bones emulator, one that you make yourself, and not bluestacks.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I asked several times, and like I said the point was missed.
It's not about the fact that WSA doesn't have to be installed, it is questioning what benefit does having it installed actually provide in anyone's user experience?
I have seen no performance increase, no extra stability, nothing other than obstacles to do something that we already can do in virtualbox.
It makes me wonder if anbox is as horrifically implemented as this subsystem or if they provide the superior option? https://anbox.io/#collapse2
I'm going to install this on a virtual linux machine now and find out
"Runs Android without hardware virtualization and seamlessly bridges over hardware acceleration features."
We will just see about that!
----My friend Ron Suggested to use a system ram and cpu checking app on all these platforms to add further evidence to my theory, working on that now
jenneh said:
MACHINE
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jenneh said:
The point is being missed entirely.... that's okay. I feel WSA is inferior to a bare bones emulator, one that you make yourself, and not bluestacks.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I asked several times, and like I said the point was missed.
It's not about the fact that WSA doesn't have to be installed, it is questioning what benefit does having it installed actually provide in anyone's user experience?
I have seen no performance increase, no extra stability, nothing other than obstacles to do something that we already can do in virtualbox.
It makes me wonder if anbox is as horrifically implemented as this subsystem or if they provide the superior option? https://anbox.io/#collapse2
I'm going to install this on a virtual linux machine now and find out
"Runs Android without hardware virtualization and seamlessly bridges over hardware acceleration features."
We will just see about that!
----My friend Ron Suggested to use a system ram and cpu checking app on all these platforms to add further evidence to my theory, working on that now
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I'm building upon my thought here, perhaps this hypervisor 1 CAN be useful in the fact that one could run Pentesting apps and executables ambidextrously, no? Like burpsuite.exe to packet sniff apks, and sbgamehacker.apk for mem editing executable programs no? I'm in another project, literally in a kernel RN, so If Anyone Knows or Figures out the Answer before I do.. {Mod edit}
At time of this writing this thread is titled
Windows 11 Bugs
At time of this writing neither You nor anyone else posted here a bug related to Windows 11 OS. You for whatever reason only concentrate to disavow WSA what isn't part of Windows 11 OS by default. WTF?
My recommendation: Change this thread's title to "Any Advantages Using WSA" or similar.
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At time of this writing this thread is titled
Windows 11 Bugs
At time of this writing neither You nor anyone else posted here a bug related to Windows 11 OS. You for whatever reason only concentrate to disavow WSA what isn't part of Windows 11 OS by default. WTF?
My recommendation: Change this thread's title to "Any Advantages Using WSA" or similar.
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I have been kind and understanding, that what I am talking about is Going Above What you are comprehending. I do not understand why you continue to post on my thread when you do not understand what it is about. The bluestacks Bug IS A WINDOWS 11 BUG. My disdain for WSA Has Nothing To Do With this Thread. Quit GateKeeping The Windows Thread
It's well known that BS what is based on Oracle VM Virtualbox currently no longer works on Windows 11 due to compatibility problems when Hyper-V or Windows Hypervisor is installed. That's not a Windows 11 bug, it's a Virtualbox ( BS ) bug.
I read somewhere that Oracle is currently working on resolving this known issue with an estimated release date for a compatible VirtualBox version later this year.
That's how it is.
So no bugs then..........??
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So no bugs then..........??
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HEHEHEHE <3 not from anyone new just yet. i guess we are just tooo pro no-liferz, unlike the rest of the world~ with lifez and such~ unable to test methods~ in the first week~
albeit Even Month Or Two.
Thank God We Don't All Hold Standards to Navi's "Level"
Muahahahhaha!~!
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HEHEHEHE <3 not from anyone new just yet. i guess we are just tooo pro no-liferz, unlike the rest of the world~ with lifez and such~ unable to test methods~ in the first week~
albeit Even Month Or Two.
Thank God We Don't All Hold Standards to Navi's "Level"
Muahahahhaha!~!
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All that aside I do appreciate your guides on alternative WIndows builds. Try not to let people get you too excited. You make good contributions here. Keep that up! <3
HipKat said:
All that aside I do appreciate your guides on alternative WIndows builds. Try not to let people get you too excited. You make good contributions here. Keep that up! <3
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Thank You. I wish I could be as Quiet as I once was... but i feel a battle is On and we need to Ready Our Players. Eff People Like Navi, Folks~!
/You/ /US/ /WE/ /TOGETHER/ /CREATE/ THIS
AND I'M SORRY ANYONE READING THESE CURRENTLY THAT CANNOT "ENVISION" WHAT A FUTURE YOUNG MIND MIGHT THINK ABOUT WHAT IS SAID AS OPPOSED TO "CURRENT" TECHNOLOGY...
AGAIN... CHROMA... I TALKED ABOUT IT... THERE ARE ALWAYS MORE THAN 3, "THREE" SOLUTIONS TO ANY EQUATION.
THINK ABOUT IT.
BREAK YOUR BRAIN A LITTLE.
THEN LET'S HOOKUP ON YT <3
May be I'm struck with blindness: I can't see any W11 bug actually pointed out here. Am I the only one?
i Love You Guys <3
mayer2 said:
May be I'm struck with blindness: I can't see any W11 bug actually pointed out here. Am I the only one?
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No, I too am BLIND

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