[Q] Questions about Emoji support in Andorid. - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My fiance and I both switched to the iPhone 4S a while back, and today Im switching back to Andorid, to be specific the LG Optimums G. We both really like the emoji in iOS. I have been searching high and low for a straight answer and have yet to find one. I see posts that say, android 4.1 and 4.2 support ios emoji. Ive seen posts that shows screen shots, but the faces are droid guys instead of yellow circles, ive seen posts that say that emoji support is only black and white.
So my questions are;
1. Does android support emoji?
2. If emoji is supported, how are they displayed? (eg. smiles, android faces, black and white, color..)
3. If I use one of the emoji keyboards in the market will it tie into the same emoji used system wide? or do I have to use the dictionary method where I have to type the word for the emoji I want?
4. Is emoji supported system wide or only in the SMS app?
Less Important questions;
1. If they are droid guys, can they be changed to smiley faces through changing the ttf font?
2. If they are black and white is it possible to make them color?
3. Is it just possible to just flat out get the iOS emoji in Android?
Lastly, I cant wait to be a part of the android community again, iOS got really boring really quick!
Here are 2 similar threads that were never answered, so I thought Id link to them as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191973
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082340

In android they are image files. So you would need a modded messaging app that uses some of the IOS images. Most tend to stay away from them though.
Wayne Tech S-III

zelendel said:
In android they are image files. So you would need a modded messaging app that uses some of the IOS images. Most tend to stay away from them though.
Wayne Tech S-III
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Ok, well is it possible to atleast get them in black and white just using a different font? Ive seen threads about it, but some of them were old, and not to clear. Needless to say ill be rooting the phone as soon as I get it home.

relik1989 said:
Ok, well is it possible to atleast get them in black and white just using a different font? Ive seen threads about it, but some of them were old, and not to clear. Needless to say ill be rooting the phone as soon as I get it home.
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No the font doesn't control the image.
Wayne Tech S-III

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No the font doesn't control the image.
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Oh...I thought that the plain black outline emoji were just symbols in a true type font? I know the full color ones use png files, so Im not really expecting to be able to get color. But is there any possible way for me to see at least see similar emoji when i get a message from an ios user?
What about something like this;
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klncity1.emojifontupdater&hl=en
I found a copy of the "Apple Color Emoji.ttf" if its not against the rules let me know and ill attach a copy of it. However when I opened it in font viewer it was blank so im not 100% on that file. Its probably blank because I dont have the PNG files for the actual emoji icons.
Also I know its a link to another forum, but what about this;
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ge...roid-4-1-ios-how-emoji-works-android-ios.html

Oh they are but they get linked to the system image. Those may work but no promises. The font color will need to be changed system wide to prevent the black. Best bet would be to use a 3rd part SMS app like Handcent. They have an IOS emoji plugin that will work for what you want as well as a ton of other options. (Avoid Go SMS)
Wayne Tech S-III

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Oh they are but they get linked to the system image. Those may work but no promises. The font color will need to be changed system wide to prevent the black. Best bet would be to use a 3rd part SMS app like Handcent. They have an IOS emoji plugin that will work for what you want as well as a ton of other options. (Avoid Go SMS)
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I was considering Handcent, except we mostly use KiK because we like to be able to have delivery and read confirmations, not only that but we can text when were on WiFi in areas with bad signal. My thing is, I really don't care if there black, having them in just black is fine by me. Is it possible to get them to work in just black? Also they don't have to even be the same, just so long as there similar. Ive never liked the little droid faces.
Does Handcent have a messaging feature yet, or is it still strictly SMS?
Back when we were both on android we loved Go SMS because of its built in messaging feature, but for iPhone Go SMS is only avaliable for ios 5 and shes on ios 6.1.2, oh and the app is only available if your jail broken of course.

Yes they added a messaging service. I have never used it but it is there.
Wayne Tech S-III

zelendel said:
Yes they added a messaging service. I have never used it but it is there.
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Really!? That may be a good alternative, because her iphone is jailbroken and handcent is avaliable for jailbroken iphones, and even if your not jailbroken aparently they have handcent messenger in the appstore. Ill have to look more into this. But you may have just made my day! Ill post back with what I find.

OK. So we tried handcent and it worked great full emoji support and all. However we ended up just using facebook messenger, I didnt know this but apparently FB Messenger also supports all the same emoji, but there more of a pastel color instead of bright yellow like on the iphone. FB is just more convent, not only that but the notification sound for handcent messenger on ios is absolutely horrible and you cant change it. I also found that for standard SMS my Optimus G already has emoji support built in, there just black outlines, so no color, but there all there.
Thanks for your help!

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[REQ] All black based apps

I am now using the awesome all black mod and was wondering how hard would it be to "all black" the gmail and gtalk apps to match. Black background and white/grey text perhaps. I would think in my case this would save a lot on battery as well as I check email frequently.
I would love this as well though I am just a user, not a programmer or the like. However I don't think this would be too hard. It could be as simple as implementing maybe a high contrast which pretty much almost flips the colors. No idea though
If their layouts, styles, etc are defined in accessible XML files it could probably be done.
yeah add me! this would be an awesome mod. can totally see 2+ days with something like this.
Anyone able to actually do this I poked around some and was unable to make it work.
I'll take a look...
That would be awesome. If you would be willling to share your findings that would be icing on the cake as I would love to learn how to do this myself.I tired to change the background colors by changing color values in the chat_view.xml but that seemed to have no effect. I am sure its just a matter of changing color values in a few key xml files but just dont know where to look.
Thanks again
Check out the thread called "tiles by ardchoille" in the section I think it may be what your looking for
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Wykedx said:
Check out the thread called "tiles by ardchoille" in the section I think it may be what your looking for
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Thanks for the link but no that is not what I am looking for. What I want is for the background screen inside the apps to be black background with white text. The default for gmail and gtalk is a white background with black text on it.
adm1jtg said:
Thanks for the link but no that is not what I am looking for. What I want is for the background screen inside the apps to be black background with white text. The default for gmail and gtalk is a white background with black text on it.
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Almost positive framework for google apps (gapps) is closed source and not to be modded or distributed. that is why CM got the cease and desist letter.
You could create a metamorph to do this but it would take quite a lot of hunting to find all the .xml files needed, as well as all the .png's used. The easy part would be editing the basic framework files. Editing all the apps you've installed is a whole new story.
Snoop around in framework.res and twframework.res if you like. That's what the AllBlack mm changes.
FYI, Cyanogen got a C&D for the _distribution_ of Google apps. I strongly doubt Google would care if you change the graphics of gapps for yourself, so long as you're not making the apps themselves available for download.
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Any new way to accomplish this?
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Any new way to accomplish this?
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Same here. I would love to get a blacked out Gmail.
I had found one on a droid x forum recently. Someone has done it.
Scarinzi said:
Same here. I would love to get a blacked out Gmail.
I had found one on a droid x forum recently. Someone has done it.
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Hi,
Blacking out apps is a royal pain to do it right. I've been working on this for my newest (still unreleased) honeycomb theme, and its slow, and tedious. I can spend hours changing one color value, or one line of code, re-compiling, push to phone, test, only for it to not work properly, and then I have to undo the change, and start over.
https://picasaweb.google.com/113127051130934911253/HoneycombTheme?feat=directlink
Gmail for instance, uses XML layouts, colors coded into the java directly, and then custom CSS for the message view.
I've been tweaking and debugging for days, and still can't override enough of the font colors to black out the message view to a level I'm happy with.
Anyway, I've done gmail, gtalk, googlevoice (well, like 90%, can't blackout the setup process properly no matter how I try) AOSP 2.2 calendar (I hate touchwiz) CM6/AOSP Mms (just touchups), google quick-search-box, twitter 2.0.1, android market, and the ABSOLUTE worst of them all, google maps (only like 85-90%, I can't decompile the resources, so some parts will never be inverted properly.) And then there were also tweaks to Contacts, Browser, Beautiful widgets, Voodoo control app, and the frameworks themselves.
And I still need to blackout facebook, google reader, google books, and a few more.
I had planned on releasing eventually, but in order to blackout maps, the framework-res.apk has to invert every call for a "light" theme to "black" instead, so it WILL break other apps that use custom display styles, but rely on default android text colors (or vice-versa.) And of course, if anyone starts asking for a release-date, I'll likely just abandon it entirely. This was all done for my own personal enjoyment and use, not anyone else's.
Blah, sorry for sounding *****y, I'm tired of people causing drama in the android world, its supposed to be FUN, not high-school.
Cheers, =)
s0niqu3 said:
Hi,
Blacking out apps is a royal pain to do it right. I've been working on this for my newest (still unreleased) honeycomb theme, and its slow, and tedious. I can spend hours changing one color value, or one line of code, re-compiling, push to phone, test, only for it to not work properly, and then I have to undo the change, and start over.
https://picasaweb.google.com/113127051130934911253/HoneycombTheme?feat=directlink
Gmail for instance, uses XML layouts, colors coded into the java directly, and then custom CSS for the message view.
I've been tweaking and debugging for days, and still can't override enough of the font colors to black out the message view to a level I'm happy with.
Anyway, I've done gmail, gtalk, googlevoice (well, like 90%, can't blackout the setup process properly no matter how I try) AOSP 2.2 calendar (I hate touchwiz) CM6/AOSP Mms (just touchups), google quick-search-box, twitter 2.0.1, android market, and the ABSOLUTE worst of them all, google maps (only like 85-90%, I can't decompile the resources, so some parts will never be inverted properly.) And then there were also tweaks to Contacts, Browser, Beautiful widgets, Voodoo control app, and the frameworks themselves.
And I still need to blackout facebook, google reader, google books, and a few more.
I had planned on releasing eventually, but in order to blackout maps, the framework-res.apk has to invert every call for a "light" theme to "black" instead, so it WILL break other apps that use custom display styles, but rely on default android text colors (or vice-versa.) And of course, if anyone starts asking for a release-date, I'll likely just abandon it entirely. This was all done for my own personal enjoyment and use, not anyone else's.
Blah, sorry for sounding *****y, I'm tired of people causing drama in the android world, its supposed to be FUN, not high-school.
Cheers, =)
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I don't blame you at all.
If you decide to make this available to everybody, it will be awesome. Good work.
I couldn't find it on XDA but a quick Google search found one on a droid x forum in zip form.
I flashed it with CWM and it worked.
Not as nice looking throughout as s0niqu3's but looks alot better than the regular version.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/blacked-out/128296-release-gmail-2-3-4-1-blacked-out.html

Droid Razr and GO SMS?

Anyone else using GO SMS with the Razr? If so the theme you have selected for the app, is your background being cut off below your list of text messages? I have tried several themes and compared side by side with my old Galaxy S phone and can not for the life of me figure out why its doing it. Here are a couple of pictures showing it.
I am really liking GO better than Handcent, but the breaking of the theme although minor is still driving me crazy since its destroys the theme lol.
Thanks for anything! Looking forward to trying out some Roms in the future!
Just tried adding a custom background to check whether the same would happen, and no I didn't notice any oddity. Displays full screen as normal
Thats odd....I've got two brand new Razr's. Only thing I've done was to root them so I could restore other apps. Both of them do it as you can see in the pics. Guess I'll try clearing data and uninstalling and re-install and see what happens lol.
I've cleared all data related to GO SMS and uninstalled both it and the theme. Reinstalled and still it will not show a background on the message list within GO SMS. If you scroll left or right within GO SMS to the Application Center or the GO Chat screens the background is there.
Not sure what else to really do here....
Recent updates still haven't cleared this up. Anyone else have this issue on their razr's??
Seems odd I have two of them that are doing this. Its not a big deal, just kinda disappointing since I've purchased some themes that now don't display right.
When looking at the screen where it lists different text messages mine looks the same as yours, theme color on the people and grey under but it's full screen theme color when I click on individual txt conversations.
Ford_Tech said:
When looking at the screen where it lists different text messages mine looks the same as yours, theme color on the people and grey under but it's full screen theme color when I click on individual txt conversations.
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Well I guess I'm glad I'm not the only one then. I've tried to email the developer but emails seem to go unanswered. Not sure what is different from this phone and my old Galaxy S, but it looks fine on my old phone.
Must just be the Razr, I checked my wifes LG Revo and her screen is theme background all the way down.
Ford_Tech said:
Must just be the Razr, I checked my wifes LG Revo and her screen is theme background all the way down.
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Maybe after some new roms or ICS comes out this will be changed. Just wonder if its something with GO SMS or something with the Blur on the Razr.

[Q] [Idea/Suggestion/Question] Whatsapp Smiley in 4.4 Kitkat

Android versions 4 and below had no support for emojis. Jelly Bean came along with some improved support using font like smileys which were completely indecipherable on a small screen phone.
Now, with Kitkat, Google has incorporated some better support for smileys that are, for the first time, actually usable.
However, what I feel is that the Whatsapp smileys are really better looking as compared to the Kitkat ones. The Whatsapp smileys have, sort of, become the default form of smileys for the respective ones. And the google smileys, be it JB or KK ones, look more like a side-variant to the default-whatsapp ones.
So what I want ask is whether is it possible to replace the KK smileys with whatsapp looking like ones. I believe it must be possible because both KK and whatsapp smileys are image ones. So if the image files of KK smileys are replaced with correclty resized whatsapp smileys, wouldn't it be possible to achieve it?
Further, some skilled and interested dev may make a CWM flashable zip out of it, that may be used with many devices. Obviously, that would be possible, only if the images in most ROMs are stored in some standard place and in a standard resolution, etc.
I am no developer and may be completely wrong. Any person knowledgeable enough to shed some light on my query as to whether it is actually possible?
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Android versions 4 and below had no support for emojis. Jelly Bean came along with some improved support using font like smileys which were completely indecipherable on a small screen phone.
Now, with Kitkat, Google has incorporated some better support for smileys that are, for the first time, actually usable.
However, what I feel is that the Whatsapp smileys are really better looking as compared to the Kitkat ones. The Whatsapp smileys have, sort of, become the default form of smileys for the respective ones. And the google smileys, be it JB or KK ones, look more like a side-variant to the default-whatsapp ones.
So what I want ask is whether is it possible to replace the KK smileys with whatsapp looking like ones. I believe it must be possible because both KK and whatsapp smileys are image ones. So if the image files of KK smileys are replaced with correclty resized whatsapp smileys, wouldn't it be possible to achieve it?
Further, some skilled and interested dev may make a CWM flashable zip out of it, that may be used with many devices. Obviously, that would be possible, only if the images in most ROMs are stored in some standard place and in a standard resolution, etc.
I am no developer and may be completely wrong. Any person knowledgeable enough to shed some light on my query as to whether it is actually possible?
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Don't understand you very well, anyway take alook here & you can always use xda search bar, maybe more useful than ask, I think. Have a nice day bud
mauam said:
Don't understand you very well, anyway take alook here & you can always use xda search bar, maybe more useful than ask, I think. Have a nice day bud
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Well, as a good XDA user, I did start with a search. But could not find any relevant result.
Going forward, the link you gave is of a Kitkat keyboard, backported to ICS. However, what I want is completely diffrerent.
Let me attempt to explain it in another manner.
See the screenshot below..
All across the Kitkat ROM, emojis would appear as (2). Be it stock messaging app, notification bar etc.
I want them to be replaced by images in (1)
I want it the other way around that the ugly Whatsapp emoticons get replaced by the awesome Google ones.
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I want it the other way around that the ugly Whatsapp emoticons get replaced by the awesome Google ones.
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We're two, man! I love KK emoticons and looking for a way to replace whatsapp ones with those
It should not be difficult but will take some time.
1. Locate where the system emojis are. You can open the APKs as you would with ZIP files. I expect to find them in the framework.
2. Copy the system APK in which the emojis are to your computer.
3. Download Whatsapp.apk and extract the emojis from it.
4. Compare the resolution of whatsapp emojis to the ones in the system. Modify the ones from whatsapp and make sure they are similar to the system.
5. Rename whatsapp emojis so that they have the same name as their corresponding ones in the system apk .
6. Overwrite the ones in the system with the ones from whatsapp.
7. Flash the modified APK using an Update Flashable ZIP.
But a better way would be using Xposed but I'm no dev and don't know how to create Xposed Modules.
Good Luck
xxrahulxx said:
Android versions 4 and below had no support for emojis. Jelly Bean came along with some improved support using font like smileys which were completely indecipherable on a small screen phone.
Now, with Kitkat, Google has incorporated some better support for smileys that are, for the first time, actually usable.
However, what I feel is that the Whatsapp smileys are really better looking as compared to the Kitkat ones. The Whatsapp smileys have, sort of, become the default form of smileys for the respective ones. And the google smileys, be it JB or KK ones, look more like a side-variant to the default-whatsapp ones.
So what I want ask is whether is it possible to replace the KK smileys with whatsapp looking like ones. I believe it must be possible because both KK and whatsapp smileys are image ones. So if the image files of KK smileys are replaced with correclty resized whatsapp smileys, wouldn't it be possible to achieve it?
Further, some skilled and interested dev may make a CWM flashable zip out of it, that may be used with many devices. Obviously, that would be possible, only if the images in most ROMs are stored in some standard place and in a standard resolution, etc.
I am no developer and may be completely wrong. Any person knowledgeable enough to shed some light on my query as to whether it is actually possible?
Here, now that I've asked it... Please reply and let my itch go
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Ignore my earlier answer. It turned out that the emojis are stored in a new font of a new format. Check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563757
You can overwrite the emojis file with the one in that thread

Can you combine two different sets of emojis/switch out emojis from multiple fonts?

I have a Sprint Galaxy S5. I just switched from stock to CM13 and realized I have different emojis now. I really like the new foods and animals but I cannot stand the marshmallow people.
I know that I could use some app to switch out my entire emoji set but I don't want to do that. I only want to replace my people emojis and leave the reset the same.
Is there an app android that can help? If not is there any way to manually pick and choose emojis from different font sets myself (on android or computer?)
Thanks!
Use an app that supports it. I mean It's only what you see anyone. The person you send it to will not see the change.
I know that it is only what I see. I have a strong preference.
I want a system wide change.I know it is possible, I just don't know how.
Hiaburi said:
I know that it is only what I see. I have a strong preference.
I want a system wide change.I know it is possible, I just don't know how.
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Then you will, have to decompile the frameworks apk and change it in there. Mind you some apps like keyboards and messaging apps use their own as well so you may have to have a look around and find them all.

Messages app - change font size?

Using the Samsung Messages app on my Verizon S9+, I am unable to permanently change the font size in the actual conversation screen. Yes, you can pinch to shrink and expand font size but that gets reset to standard size every time (unlike on the S7 Edge where it remembered your size preference).
Through Settings, you can globally adjust font size but the only Messages screen this affects is the main Conversation screen which shows all conversations. Once you click on a conversation, normal font size is presented. Frustrating for my old eyes...
UPDATE: Ironically, when you adjust Font Size in Settings, if you swipe the sample screen above the sliders, it shows you a sample Messages screen and the font size does change in the sample, but it does NOT change in the actual Messages app. Sounds like a bug to me as they are depicting what I want to do, just doesn't work.
I'd like to use the stock app as it has some features that are unique. There must be a way to change the font size so the setting is persistent, no?
Seeing the same also. Hard for my aging eyes to see.
And also finding it doesn't follow the global setting for size. Same as you.
Same issue. I don't think you can change the font size just for the Message app.
I when back to my beloved and trusted Textra SMS app.
It changes when you change the font size in display settings font.
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It changes when you change the font size in display settings font.
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As I mentioned in my post, this is not true. On my phone, changing the font size in display setting ONLY affects font size in the main Conversations view. Once you click on an actual conversation, the font size returns to the default tiny size.
You can get a newer version on apkmirror.com but it wont allow updating samsung apps for some reson. Anyone have the latest version of messages signed by samsung that will install?
They need ro bring back the S8 messaging app which has this inbuilt feature to adjust text. Wonder, why they ripped off that useful feature.
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Pinch to zoom in and out...
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It doesnt stick.
I updated my original post with this tidbit:
UPDATE: Ironically, when you adjust global Font Size in Settings, if you swipe the sample screen above the sliders, it shows you a sample Messages screen and the font size does change in the sample, but it does NOT change in the actual Messages app. Sounds like a bug to me as they are depicting what I want to do, just doesn't work.
Hopefully Samsung will acknowledge this bug and release a new version of the app. Clearly the global Font Size Setting is supposed to do exactly this.
Same thing. Very frustrating
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It doesnt stick.
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It's really not that hard to pinch zoom. Takes a half second. Sure, it'd be nice if it would stick but, c'mon man.
I had a problem with the Background colors in the Messaging ap - some of the themes I like to use are really awesome but when I get to the messaging ap, they used yellow fonts on a white background - nearly impossible to read. I either have to use a different messaging ap entirely (Mood is a pretty good one I found that has TONS of customization options) or just guess at what was written - or change themes.
It's dissapointing that I can't change the balloons or fonts in the messaging ap any more - would be nice if we could - and change font size too - so for now, I am using the MOOD messaging ap and while I prefer the Samsung Stock one better - Mood isn't bad at all.
Its not only internal Messages app, Viber and Hangouts has really small font in input line. Tried increasing font size, tried toying with DPI settings. No idea why its like that and only affecting text input lines, but hope some later update could fix that?
Hi Everyone..I just got the 9 plus and the messaging app is different than it used to be. It is just blue bubbles with white background. It wont let me change anything like before and the setting the background wallpaper for messages is no longer there....is that how everyone else's is?
I also switched to Textra for the all of the customization that it offers. It's a free download so I gave it a try and I've stuck with it since. Just my 2ยข
pieces of cake said:
It's really not that hard to pinch zoom. Takes a half second. Sure, it'd be nice if it would stick but, c'mon man.
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No, not "come on man". It should work as designed, and has worked since GSI-II.
I use Chomp. Let's you change all of the fonts and sizes, including the message notification pop-up.
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No, not "come on man". It should work as designed, and has worked since GSI-II.
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I think you mean, "It should work the way I want it to work." It IS working as designed. It's just that you don't like the new design.
That's not to say that I don't agree that it would be better if we could choose a persistent font size. I do.
But we're talking about a split-second pinch out to increase the size.
A split-second.
So, yeah... C'mon.
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I think you mean, "It should work the way I want it to work." It IS working as designed. It's just that you don't like the new design.
That's not to say that I don't agree that it would be better if we could choose a persistent font size. I do.
But we're talking about a split-second pinch out to increase the size.
A split-second.
So, yeah... C'mon.
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Thousands of people having to take a split-second to adjust for a design bug every single time? No. You're missing the point.

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