I need a bit of advice on what to buy. I'm currently on AT&T contract with my old iPhone 5, but want to buy the One. I have a few options:
1. Craigslist seller #1 ($500)- It's a 32GB Global Unlocked version. However, they said that it will work with AT&T but it will only be HSPA + not LTE. Is this true?? He ahd it on AT&T but couldnt get LTE. I checked the HTC website and the 32GB Global Unlocked version did have one compatible band (700MHz) with AT&T's LTE, so I can't see why it wouldnt work. What do you guys think?
2. Craigslist seller #2 ($500)- She has a 32GB T-Mobile version that she got as a gift at a HTC event. It has never been activated. We tried calling TMO last night to get it unlocked, but they were clueless. I did find that I could get it unlocked for around $25 from a site online. If we do this, will it work on AT&T LTE? Any way to remove the TMO bloatware and crap from it?
3. Buy the phone direct from AT&T outright ($600). It's guaranteed to work with their LTE, but would come with the bloatware. It's more than the craigslist sellers, but at least I'd have the support of AT&T if anything ever went wrong with it (since I bought it from them). However, it's only like $30 less than the 64GB Developer edition
4. Buy direct from HTC (32GB global unlocked or Dev edition). This way guarantees me that I get the fastest updates (is that true for both or only the Dev edition) and no carrier bloatware, but I'd have to wait 2-4 weeks for the phone to arrive, and I'm impatient as hell. I know it's the smartest and best option, but I dont really feel like waiting.
If I can get #1 working on AT&T LTE, I think it's my best option, but I'm not sure if that will work. According to this XDA post, the Global Unlocked version should work with AT&T LTE, but the seller is telling me that it doesnt.
So what do you guys think? What's my best move & option here?
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Sorry. Where should I have posted this?
Buy it from AT&T. As you said, the support is worth the extra $$.
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Buy it from AT&T. As you said, the support is worth the extra $$.
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Grr, yeah that's what I was thinking. I guess it's the smarter option. Would probably be better to get the Dev edition for $50 more and a few weeks of waiting. I want to make sure I get software updates as fast as possible. I'm still stumped.
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Buy it from AT&T. As you said, the support is worth the extra $$.
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Any thoughts on option #1? Seems strange that it would have one of the correct AT&T LTE bands, but not work on AT&T. Maybe a different APN setting? I dunno. That seems like the best option, provided I can get it to work on AT&T.
You're on a development forum.. remember that.
It all comes down to this: are you happy with HSPA+ Speeds? If so, save $100 and get the unlocked version. If you want LTE, get the phone direct from AT&T. You will not get LTE speeds from any One except the AT&T model, this is proven by numerous accounts of people doing reviews on YouTube using the unlocked on AT&T.
Now, if you decide to get the AT&T, first thing to understand is you're on a developement forum.. how many people here (all of which are on AT&T still have their bloatware installed? Almost no one. I have One, and the first thing I did was unlock bootloader, root, flash a stock ROM (TrickDroid) which comes with many benificial features, including NO bloat, and fixes for bugs in HTC stock firmware.
Trust me, you're going to want to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM.
As for updates, the people that will get the updates first, before anyone else, is us. Because we are on a developement forum. People will start cooking up updates before HTC even released anything. And once AT&T or HTC starts rolling out the updates, we, XDAers will definitely know about it. And the ROMS will start getting updates.
So go for the LTE version, and know, you'll be bloat free, speeedy and the first to hear about any updates.
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You're on a development forum.. remember that.
It all comes down to this: are you happy with HSPA+ Speeds? If so, save $100 and get the unlocked version. If you want LTE, get the phone direct from AT&T. You will not get LTE speeds from any One except the AT&T model, this is proven by numerous accounts of people doing reviews on YouTube using the unlocked on AT&T.
Now, if you decide to get the AT&T, first thing to understand is you're on a developement forum.. how many people here (all of which are on AT&T still have their bloatware installed? Almost no one. I have One, and the first thing I did was unlock bootloader, root, flash a stock ROM (TrickDroid) which comes with many benificial features, including NO bloat, and fixes for bugs in HTC stock firmware.
Trust me, you're going to want to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM.
As for updates, the people that will get the updates first, before anyone else, is us. Because we are on a developement forum. People will start cooking up updates before HTC even released anything. And once AT&T or HTC starts rolling out the updates, we, XDAers will definitely know about it. And the ROMS will start getting updates.
So go for the LTE version, and know, you'll be bloat free, speeedy and the first to hear about any updates.
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Haha yeah, I purposefully came to a dev forum. You guys know more about this **** than anyone. Since I'm brand new to Android, I dont really know much about rooting, Roms etc. I hope it's easy. I'm reasonably technical, but not a dev or engineer. Can you point me to the beginner's guide to rooting and flashing roms?
Also, I heard conflicting reports about the Dev Unlocked phone direct from HTC working on AT&T LTE, so I dont know what to believe anymore. I guess the AT&T version is the best bet.
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Haha yeah, I purposefully came to a dev forum. You guys know more about this **** than anyone. Since I'm brand new to Android, I dont really know much about rooting, Roms etc. I hope it's easy. I'm reasonably technical, but not a dev or engineer. Can you point me to the beginner's guide to rooting and flashing roms?
Also, I heard conflicting reports about the Dev Unlocked phone direct from HTC working on AT&T LTE, so I dont know what to believe anymore. I guess the AT&T version is the best bet.
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Alright here's how it works. Once you get to the AT&T HTC One section, that's the start. From there you see catigories. General is mostly for stories and such, that's why this thread should be in Q and A. Then there's stuff like themes and apps section, and accessories (self explanitory) then the good stuff. Origional Development is developement that has been done SPECIFICALLY for the AT&T variant of the One. The Developement section can be ports of other phones or other variants. So, in the Developement section, we find this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245776
[XMOD] MoDaCo Toolkit (with HTC One specific mods)
That is a guide to unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Do you have a PC? If so things are a little simpler if you ask me.
Hope that helps, and I'm glad someone made a noob friendly guide because I had to do it all manually before they made it. Haha
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Alright here's how it works. Once you get to the AT&T HTC One section, that's the start. From there you see catigories. General is mostly for stories and such, that's why this thread should be in Q and A. Then there's stuff like themes and apps section, and accessories (self explanitory) then the good stuff. Origional Development is developement that has been done SPECIFICALLY for the AT&T variant of the One. The Developement section can be ports of other phones or other variants. So, in the Developement section, we find this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245776
[XMOD] MoDaCo Toolkit (with HTC One specific mods)
That is a guide to unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Do you have a PC? If so things are a little simpler if you ask me.
Hope that helps, and I'm glad someone made a noob friendly guide because I had to do it all manually before they made it. Haha
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Awesome thanks! I have a Mac, but have Win8 installed via Parallels, so I think I should be good. Thank you so much for your help!
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Awesome thanks! I have a Mac, but have Win8 installed via Parallels, so I think I should be good. Thank you so much for your help!
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Actually, bad idea a bit. You're going to want hardware specific drivers installed and if I remember, parallel and drivers can be weird. I would try to figure out the OS X way about things. It can be hard for even a windows computer to get the drivers installed correctly so good luck with a virtual OS.
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Actually, bad idea a bit. You're going to want hardware specific drivers installed and if I remember, parallel and drivers can be weird. I would try to figure out the OS X way about things. It can be hard for even a windows computer to get the drivers installed correctly so good luck with a virtual OS.
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Well crap. Thanks for poopin on my idea. I'll find an old ThinkPad at the office and borrow it for a bit. But even then, how hard is it for a windows comp to get the drivers installed??
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Well crap. Thanks for poopin on my idea. I'll find an old ThinkPad at the office and borrow it for a bit. But even then, how hard is it for a windows comp to get the drivers installed??
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Not hard, just don't download the HTC Sync from the HTC website, instead install this:
http://androiddrivers.net/android-drivers/htc-one-drivers/
Then the root tool thing should do the rest, I don't really know because I didn't use it.
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Not hard, just don't download the HTC Sync from the HTC website, instead install this:
http://androiddrivers.net/android-drivers/htc-one-drivers/
Then the root tool thing should do the rest, I don't really know because I didn't use it.
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Awesome, many thanks!!
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Awesome, many thanks!!
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No problem man, I remember getting into it, hard when people get annoyed when you're new. Haha I remember it well. People in the root tool thread were joking about having to pull their old laptops out of the closet too. Haha
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Awesome thanks! I have a Mac, but have Win8 installed via Parallels, so I think I should be good. Thank you so much for your help!
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I wrote a complete tutorial for unlocking the bootloader and rooting on a mac.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245782
Just to consign, if you want it to work on att lte it has to be an att branded One. Also, avoid 2nd hand att devices unless you know the individual personally. If you purchase a device then they call it in lost/ stolen, it will be added to our blocklist and it cannot be used on our network.
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Just to consign, if you want it to work on att lte it has to be an att branded One. Also, avoid 2nd hand att devices unless you know the individual personally. If you purchase a device then they call it in lost/ stolen, it will be added to our blocklist and it cannot be used on our network.
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Nope
The Unlocked regular and Dev editions sold directly by HTC work on AT&T LTE.
I agree about buying second hand though, it can be risky
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I wrote a complete tutorial for unlocking the bootloader and rooting on a mac.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245782
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Good stuff gunny, didn't realise it was essentially the same steps for Mac.
But for a begginer, understanding some of that can be confusing. It's a good learning experience though. Who knows, I'd say barrow the windows. Lol
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Good stuff gunny, didn't realise it was essentially the same steps for Mac.
But for a begginer, understanding some of that can be confusing. It's a good learning experience though. Who knows, I'd say barrow the windows. Lol
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steps are the same. just no pesky windows drivers to mess with. fastboot and adb just work
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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lololol, not this **** again.
This is why I got the Dev edition
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Not surprised by this at all its att it sucks i wish i could have bought the development edition but I have faith the people here will crack it
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess.
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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This is why I got the Dev edition
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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Really though, the amount of modders who need SOFF to do what they want is like less than 5% of the mod community. Root typically handles most issues. Unlocked bootloader is just that barrier above root.
Though, I'm kind of mad that HTC isn't sticking it to ATT on this and telling them to bugger off. Tmobiles is unlocked...
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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I don't know much about the typical bootloader unlocking methods, but saw this recent article about unlocking newer Qualcomm-based Motorola phones. Not that this method will work on the AT&T One, but hopefully a similar method can be found if none of the current tricks work.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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My comment had to do more with informing the previous poster what actually happened on the One X (that he seemed to mostly only know about 2nd hand), rather than speculating on what HTC has done on this upcoming phone. As we know, HTC is a tricky bugger, and I won't even begin to try to guess what security enhancements they have up their sleeve this time around!
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whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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You can root, install custom recovery, and flash custom ROMs with an unlocked bootloader.
S-off allows some other things, such as modding hboot, and flashing radios. But its not needed for flashing custom ROMs.
you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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Aha! gotcha, Well. I tried to order the Dev edition but it got out of stock.. so i have no choice but to get one from ATT and hope for the best : D
Yeah you can flash roms etc..
But who wants to manually flash the kernel every time you want to update a rom?
I would like to just put my rom on my phone and flash it. Simple as that
Regardless this is XDA and i trust the devs here will do something to get AT&T users rooted.
mine will be going back so fast if its not unlockable
Sprint and tmobile versions are unlockable
There is no surprise about ATT locking the boot loader. Why do you think HTC is selling a developer edition that is using ATT bands. They solved it because there are a few of us who root our phones etc. Most people who buy phones don't do any of this XDA stuff
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I see it this way, with the $100 rebate and the HDMI device I am getting from HTC and ATT the one will be pretty much free. I am switching from Sprint which I had originally switched to with hopes of buying the Nexus 4. Since they stopped doing Nexus on CDMA this is my move back. The One will turn into a backup phone and the next Nexus will become my main. If a Nexus doesn't come out in the next 4 months I'll just buy a Nexus 4 for now. I'll just never do OTAs on the One until a root is found or just sell the thing when I get a Nexus.
Btw, who is this Steven Bell guy? Does he have an HTC One from ATT that he tried to unlock?
Im glad i got the dev edition. I canceled ATT pre order day after i ordered. My Dev edition says backorder now but says shipment scheduled Tomorrow the 10th.
Either some lazy people here.. Or trolls.. It only takes an additional few seconds to flash a kernel if you need it. Those few seconds certainly wouldn't keep me from owning this device. This phone looks like it'll have a lot of Dev presence. S-off might not be far off. :victory:
I dont know who Steve bell is (guy paul obrien quoted) And how he would know The ATT is locked since its not out yet. I guess he's credible somewhat if Paul is repeating it.
Hmmm....im really starting to second guess this phone....im confused why att locks down HTC phones but not other android phones like Samsung? Sorry really new to HTC phones....
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*****SOLVED*****Ive done some searching and haven't come to a definitive of whether it will work or wont . Im unlocked, rooted...all on the ATT ONE. Anyone, a dev say, sure as to whether this will work? Id hate to screw my phone up being a day old.
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Ive done some searching and haven't come to a definitive of whether it will work or wont . Im unlocked, rooted...all on the ATT ONE. Anyone, a dev say, sure as to whether this will work? Id hate to screw my phone up being a day old.
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I would just enjoy the phone for now and wait. There is confirmation on unlocking the boot and getting root if this is true which it seems to be there is not much we can do with it until our devs start cooking home made goodies. The only reason I would be anxious to root is for tethering but there are apps that will give you tether without rooting in the play store.
I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
Yea, I'm unlocked and rooted. I wanna flash something !!!! Lol
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I'm 99% sure it will work. 100% of the internals are the same except for the bands on the radio, which are just a matter of changing the APN. Go ahead and do it for us
Report back on what happens!
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I'm 99% sure it will work. 100% of the internals are the same except for the bands on the radio, which are just a matter of changing the APN. Go ahead and do it for us
Report back on what happens!
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According to this thread here they have the same product model code. I don't see why you couldn't. Though I understand you don't want to ruin the device so soon being the first to try on the AT&T variant.
Well, success!!! Running Revolution HD w LTE
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so without supercid you can flash roms from other carriers and international version?
I wonder thats why supercid was for
With all the of 4.2 coming out where is the 1.29 update?
I just want the battery enhancement ans camera upgrade.
Anyone with some insider info can give us a glimmer of hope?
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Root and flash a custom Rom
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I guess it's time.
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Yeah took a quick glance. I need something more reliable. With Roms it's which one has the features working you like. I prefer official I think.
Thanks but I believe I'll pass in the Roms for now. In that scenario any update info?
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Sprint got theirs a while ago. Don't forget it helps with capacitive buttons.
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Yeah took a quick glance. I need something more reliable. With Roms it's which one has the features working you like. I prefer official I think.
Thanks but I believe I'll pass in the Roms for now. In that scenario any update info?
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the custom sense rom in the international thread have everything working for tmo h1. they include wifi calling also. if you dont have the 1.29 update you probably wont get it being htc is releasing 4.2 in the next few weeks
1.29 is not 4.2.
I also want my 4.2 update
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Indeed 4.1.2 and 1.27.531.7 is what we are stuck with....
Just called T-Mobile and the woman saw nothing about the updates in their system...
She said if you can download the update and apply it from HTC's website that would work, but rooting and using different software would break the warranty.
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Indeed 4.1.2 and 1.27.531.7 is what we are stuck with....
Just called T-Mobile and the woman saw nothing about the updates in their system...
She said if you can download the update and apply it from HTC's website that would work, but rooting and using different software would break the warranty.
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I just checked the HTC site and there are no downloads for the TMO phone.
head on over to t-mo's forum and let them know you want your flagship top of the line phone updates available when they hit 2.0 / 4.2.2
http://support.t-mobile.com/communi...id/htc_one_lte/content?filterID=contentstatus[published]~objecttype~objecttype[thread]
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head on over to t-mo's forum and let them know you want your flagship top of the line phone updates available when they hit 2.0 / 4.2.2
http://support.t-mobile.com/communi...id/htc_one_lte/content?filterID=contentstatus[published]~objecttype~objecttype[thread]
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I suspect that is what they are waiting for - 4.2.2.
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I suspect that is what they are waiting for - 4.2.2.
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According to the t-mobile reps they aren't waiting for anything. They have no plan or course of action or announcement.
sry that link was broken heres a working link
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According to the t-mobile reps they aren't waiting for anything. They have no plan or course of action or announcement.
sry that link was broken heres a working link
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The rep would not know anything except an update currently in the pipeline, that is, already heading our way. Only someone at Tmo corporate headquarters would know the strategic deployment strategy, and they do not talk. TMO tends to release updates later than other companies.
t-mobile tends to release updates not at all...
a few years ago my smartphone was updated for all carriers except t-mobile. everyone went up an android version while I did not.
who cares how much difference it makes... t-mobile is clearly lazier about updating than other companies and need a push to do so.
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t-mobile tends to release updates not at all...
a few years ago my smartphone was updated for all carriers except t-mobile. everyone went up an android version while I did not.
who cares how much difference it makes... t-mobile is clearly lazier about updating than other companies and need a push to do so.
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Well, for my Amaze 4G, they released the upgrade to ICS after about 5 months. And then very recently they did another upgrade, which would be almost a year later. But that first major update wasn't that late.
The way I look at it, if you're using these forums, you shouldn't have to wait for carrier updates. HTC did announce that an update is in the works.
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The way I look at it, if you're using these forums, you shouldn't have to wait for carrier updates. HTC did announce that an update is in the works.
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true that, the more I think about this the more I think I might as well just root the damned thing and say screw the warranty... its not like I woul ever pay for that PHP plan...
I'm skeptica stable a custom Rom would be that also allows me to keep my Wi-Fi calling
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t-mobile tends to release updates not at all...
a few years ago my smartphone was updated for all carriers except t-mobile. everyone went up an android version while I did not.
who cares how much difference it makes... t-mobile is clearly lazier about updating than other companies and need a push to do so.
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This is simply not true. Take the Galaxy S2 for example. They updated 3 times...Froyo-->GB-->ICS--JB.
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This is simply not true. Take the Galaxy S2 for example. They updated 3 times...Froyo-->GB-->ICS--JB.
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Thats how every phone needs to be updated
The question is for those people who did not buy on contract (purchased the phone outright).
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The question is for those people who did not buy on contract (purchased the phone outright).
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That's not how updates work. Phones don't get updates based upon their contract status or lack thereof, but instead they get updated by their device ID. (Carrier, region, etc..)
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Phones get updated not based whether you bought it on credit or full or contract or w/e but based on region, carrier or if you got the developer edition. Most updates MUST go through the carriers and they must approve of it. Is why the First Galaxy line was slow at getting updated. Thank T-Mobile for that
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Phones get updated not based whether you bought it on credit or full or contract or w/e but based on region, carrier or if you got the developer edition. Most updates MUST go through the carriers and they must approve of it. Is why the First Galaxy line was slow at getting updated. Thank T-Mobile for that
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That sucks. My previous phone a Sony Xperia Arc S got updated via the USB connection through their sync software. I don't see why that cannot be the case with this phone. BTW this forum is oh so slow compared to the Xperia Arc forum. I would think it would have plenty of postings. Is the S4 so much more popular?
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That sucks. Y previous phone a Sony Xperia Arc S got updated via the USB connection through their sync software. I don't see why that cannot be the case with this phone. BTW this forum is oh so slow compared to the Xperia Arc forum. I would think it would have plenty of post. Is the S4 so much more popular?
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Because there are many versions to the same phone the "t-mobile" HTC One forums may be slow, but if you go down to the "htc one" forums here on XDA you will discover another story.
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megabiteg said:
Because there are many versions to the same phone the "t-mobile" HTC One forums may be slow, but if you go down to the "htc one" forums here on XDA you will discover another story.
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Oops! Just realized where I am. Sorry I thought I posted in the main HTC One forum not T-Mobile
I'm beginning to lose hope that the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Not because the devs here aren't fantastic - they are undoubtedly incredible. But based on my prior experiences with locked phones, this one seems to be unusually challenging. So what do folks think the odds are at this point?
PS: Forgive me if this belongs in another thread but I figured it's less about the process or the bounty and more about likelihood....
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I'm not holding my breath. But it's reasonable that something may be found along the way by accident or by leak..
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the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
I would prefer a One Max IF you can unlock the bootloader on HTC's site.
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
flyinj54 said:
I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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How long you going to give it? I'm sure as soon as I trade back they will crack it!
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brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I came from the note 2, development for the note 2 is not as active as the s4 but there is development.
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I currently plan on getting the note 3. Not stopping using the gs4, just having the ability to go big when I feel like it. :good:
That and to try to start some projects for it. Always fun to have projects!
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andybones said:
the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
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Wasn't the HTC DNA blocked from being unlocked after a vzw update? If the one is unlockable then I'd gladly switch.
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The odds are the same as finding a way to install a rom on the me7 update
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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samsung develeoper phones, htc unlock.
theres future rooting..
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
I think it is going to be the only solution going forward. I don't see any of the manufacturers or providers easing back on locking down these devices. If anything they will get tighter.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
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I am not totally sure, but I felt the CM team was indicating something in the way Google was implementing security and the code that really allows things to be done without the intrusion of root. I am not a developer and likely never would acquire the skills to be more than a guinea pig for them (don't mind) and I learned a lot from folks here especially with my HTC One DE which was a rockin device. I just wished AT&T service was better in my area and I could live with it. Some day I will likely try them again but I just can't do it right now. The big reason I did was to get unlocked phones, but given the sheer lack of LTE for US on the international phones its clear the OEM's are NOT making global phones on LTE today. It could be 10 years before we truly see global LTE phones.
Personalty, It's not about CM to me, I wasn't full access to my phone, if I have HTC I was S-OFF, if this phone I was the boot loader unlock.
Things take time and money, check the bounty, who knows for all I know they have a boot loader unlock and are waiting for it to hit $10G or some other number.
It's hard to say really. But I hope that Verizon still allows their HTC phone to at least get HTC -Dev unlock to allow custom recovery and ROM-Ming, and as for Samsung, if a Dev. edition is the only option, I will buy the phone for at Verizon (whatever one I can sell for the most on Swappa), sell it, make about enough money to buy the Dev. edition at only $200 after selling the device.
Just some ranting, sorry.