Rooting difference from S2 to S3 - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So my S2 died the other day and I went to buy a i9300. Now I've been searching about S3 rooting and I've found conflicting info on this.
So when I first rooted my old S2 I did it with a temporary CWM that disapeared ofter reboot stayed in stock with stock kernel and kies was able to update my firmwsre without deleting root. I actualy updated from 2.3.5 to ICS via kies without removing root or loosing it after.
I was wondering if the same could be done with the i9300 I want to remain stock for now and don't want to replace stock recovery with CWM. Is there a temporary CWM for S3 so I can push the SU binary to system part without flashing anything over stock?
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ZehL said:
So my S2 died the other day and I went to buy a i9300. Now I've been searching about S3 rooting and I've found conflicting info on this.
So when I first rooted my old S2 I did it with a temporary CWM that disapeared ofter reboot stayed in stock with stock kernel and kies was able to update my firmwsre without deleting root. I actualy updated from 2.3.5 to ICS via kies without removing root or loosing it after.
I was wondering if the same could be done with the i9300 I want to remain stock for now and don't want to replace stock recovery with CWM. Is there a temporary CWM for S3 so I can push the SU binary to system part without flashing anything over stock?
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I don't think that something like this exists on I9300, but try the search button
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Ivyy111 said:
I don't think that something like this exists on I9300, but try the search button
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I did try the search button. The only thing i found was someone talking about the new recovery in S3 only flashing signed packages from samsung or something like that.
Thats why i opened a new thread to see if someone had some new info on it.
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CF-AUTO ROOT. Installs only the SuperSU app. Does not install custom recovery. Dunno about updates, though. I think it supports OTA.
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Oomahey said:
CF-AUTO ROOT. Installs only the SuperSU app. Does not install custom recovery. Dunno about updates, though. I think it supports OTA.
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Thanks for the info. Anyone can confirm about the updates?
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ZehL said:
So my S2 died the other day and I went to buy a i9300. Now I've been searching about S3 rooting and I've found conflicting info on this.
So when I first rooted my old S2 I did it with a temporary CWM that disapeared ofter reboot stayed in stock with stock kernel and kies was able to update my firmwsre without deleting root. I actualy updated from 2.3.5 to ICS via kies without removing root or loosing it after.
I was wondering if the same could be done with the i9300 I want to remain stock for now and don't want to replace stock recovery with CWM. Is there a temporary CWM for S3 so I can push the SU binary to system part without flashing anything over stock?
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A brief read of the root posts will say it does not exist for SGS3 .
jje

JJEgan said:
A brief read of the root posts will say it does not exist for SGS3 .
jje
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What about that cf auto root thing? Even if i need odin to send it to phone will it replace the stock recovery and will i need to unroot to update the stock firmware?
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ZehL said:
Thanks for the info. Anyone can confirm about the updates?
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Use CF Auto Root from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273 Download Odin and the CF auto root for your phone all instructions are on this thread
You can still update via Kies as long as everything is kept stock even though its rooted but you wont get any OTA updates that wont work

ag4751 said:
Use CF Auto Root from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273 Download Odin and the CF auto root for your phone all instructions are on this thread
You can still update via Kies as long as everything is kept stock even though its rooted but you wont get any OTA updates that wont work
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Thanks. So that method everything stays stock including recovery and o xan still use kies. Will a kies update erase root or will it be like with the s2 where the root sticks after the update?
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ZehL said:
Thanks. So that method everything stays stock including recovery and o xan still use kies. Will a kies update erase root or will it be like with the s2 where the root sticks after the update?
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Yes the update will remove root but after update simply flash root with odin again, only takes a few minutes

ag4751 said:
Yes the update will remove root but after update simply flash root with odin again, only takes a few minutes
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Thanks. Going to try it. By the way staying in stock means no init.d scripts right?
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Help CF-Root

i want to use cf-root in my Phone, but before i do it, I need to now if this will erase my personal data...
Thanks for the help.
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No it won't
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dr.m0x is right. it won't erase any personal data ... The only thing it does is (as far as i know) install a different kernel and install a different recovery program.
PS And btw it also installs the programs SuperSU and CWM
One question about this: is it true that I can't get ota updates after applying cf root? Instead I have to flash them with odin?
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There may be a problem with OTA updates, if they work your device will probably be unrooted though so you just have to root it again
wohli said:
One question about this: is it true that I can't get ota updates after applying cf root? Instead I have to flash them with odin?
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Well if you having this problem with OTA, you can always update via Kies which was working fine for me. I was in XXALF6 and rooted and managed to update to XXBLFB via Kies, but all modification, root and custom kernel gone.
Thanks for the help...

Rooting S2

Hi! I attempted to root my S2 via a method I found here whereby I flash an insecure kernel then root using S2 root. I followed the guide to the T and still my phone is only ''partially rooted'' according to rootchecker and no root apps could be granted su access.
I am running ICS 4.0.3, Baseband Version XXLPS.
What should I do next or should I accept defeat and leave this phone unrooted? What could I have done wrong?
Thanks in advance for reading.
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AndroidUser1192 said:
Hi! I attempted to root my S2 via a method I found here whereby I flash an insecure kernel then root using S2 root. I followed the guide to the T and still my phone is only ''partially rooted'' according to rootchecker and no root apps could be granted su access.
I am running ICS 4.0.3, Baseband Version XXLPS.
What should I do next or should I accept defeat and leave this phone unrooted? What could I have done wrong?
Thanks in advance for reading.
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flash the latest siyah kernel v3.4.1 either from ur recovery (use siyah .zip file) or thro Odin ( use siyah .tar file) and then see
Thanks Sun!
I have downloaded the Tar file. I assume what I do now is flash it onto my phone and retry S2 Root again?
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If you flash Siyah you will be already rooted.
Ah, then perfect. Thank you!
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Either I am an uber noob or there is something wrong!
I downloaded the Siyah 3.4.1.tar kernel from gokhanmoral and flashed via odin and the phone sat at the boot screen with the little yellow triangle on it. I left the phone on and running like that for 10minutes.
I flashed my insecure kernel back on from last time (the one I used when trying to root using s2root) and it is fine again.
Anywho I am back to square one! -.-
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AndroidUser1192 said:
Either I am an uber noob or there is something wrong!
I downloaded the Siyah 3.4.1.tar kernel from gokhanmoral and flashed via odin and the phone sat at the boot screen with the little yellow triangle on it. I left the phone on and running like that for 10minutes.
I flashed my insecure kernel back on from last time (the one I used when trying to root using s2root) and it is fine again.
Anywho I am back to square one! -.-
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well thats really weird ma8, is ur phone I9100 or I9100G
ps- always try to root ur phone by a proper CF-root kernel, rather than some insecure kernel
I9100! It's very strange and I'm dying to check out some roms!
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AndroidUser1192 said:
I9100! It's very strange and I'm dying to check out some roms!
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so u havent tried the Cf-root method intially to root ur phone right
Nope just the S2 root method and now Siyah.
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AndroidUser1192 said:
Nope just the S2 root method and now Siyah.
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ok buddy follow this steps to reroot ur phone in a proper manner.
1) Dwnld the official ICS firmware(4.0.3) and flash thro odin
link Here
2) after that please dwnld the Matching Cf- root kernel and flash thro' ODIN
link Here
ur phone will be rooted properly and should wrk fine
ps- read the OP of both the threads carefully and follow the instructions over there to root ur phone successfully
If you only need proper root, no custom or insecure kernels and no yellow triangle, look at the guide in my signature. Worth the try
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Hey i had a similar problem. There is a superuser n buybox zip file that you will find on one forum here,that is about basic how to root. Copy those files to your phone then go to recovery and apply zip. I had a hard time with my phone partially rooted but thay solved it
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[Q] Cannot root new Black Galaxy S3 I9300

Hi! I've got a problem with my new Black S3, I just got it today and I immediately upgraded to Jelly Bean 4.1.1. After a successful update, I tried rooting, Odin displays a PASS but after rebooting, my S3 is not root. No superSU icon or CWM icon. Is there a problem rooting the Black S3? or is the Jelly Bean 4.1.1 cannot be rooted yet? I'm using the CF-Root by Chainfire. \
My sister's S3 is the Pebble Blue one, I rooted it when it was still on ICS 4.0.4 then when I updated it to JB 4.1.1, I just re-rooted it using the same method above, using ODIN and CF-Root by Chainfire and I succeeded in rooting it.
Is it required to root the S3 on ICS first then upgrade to JB? Please help me on this.
Thanks!
Somebody mentioned not auto-starting after flash and manually going into recovery to trigger installation.
Uncheck the auto restart box and flash, then turn phone off and go into recovery
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xcly said:
Somebody mentioned not auto-starting after flash and manually going into recovery to trigger installation.
Uncheck the auto restart box and flash, then turn phone off and go into recovery
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What will I do after going into recovery? What files should I install in-order to root? Up until now I've been using CF-Root by Chainfire because it already has the SuperSU and CWM installed automatically.
Please advise. Thanks!
Use CF root it works on JB .
jje
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Use CF root it works on JB .
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I've been using this "CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4" by Chainfire. Now it doesn't work on my new Black S3.
flipward said:
What will I do after going into recovery? What files should I install in-order to root? Up until now I've been using CF-Root by Chainfire because it already has the SuperSU and CWM installed automatically.
Please advise. Thanks!
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Do nothing, just manually boot into recovery, it should then kick in
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Root successful!
shinyazz52 said:
Do nothing, just manually boot into recovery, it should then kick in
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It worked! Thanks a lot! Now I'm a happy S3 user!

[Q] Official ROM update - info

Hello everybody,
my gt-i9100 will receive (short-run hopefully) the update to jelly bean but i have a couple of questions to avoid trouble.
At this time i have ics 4.0.3 official with root and modified recovery (not CWM). I have some root apps installed as "system app" like Android Lost, xposed framework and xposed tweakbox. I know the update will erase all my data (full update not value pack) but there will be problems installing this update with these root apps pre isntalled?
Thanks to all :cyclops:
It should cause any problems as the rom will erase all user apps and root.
What method are you planning to use to upgrade.
Kies or doing yourself through Odin.
As a precaution you could do a factoery reset before connecting to kies or flashing with odin. That way there will be no problems with stray aps.
i think i will use kies.
so i will not have issues having a custom recovery?
after upadte i must root again the device, right? if yes wich root use?
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sidvizioso said:
i think i will use kies.
so i will not have issues having a custom recovery?
after upadte i must root again the device, right? if yes wich root use?
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U cannot update via OTA or Kies if u r rooted
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iNCEPTiON2010 said:
U cannot update via OTA or Kies if u r rooted
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If I remember correctly, a few months ago there was a small update, it goes well but I had to root again the device, so how should I proceed to upgrade now?
sidvizioso said:
If I remember correctly, a few months ago there was a small update, it goes well but I had to root again the device, so how should I proceed to upgrade now?
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Www.sammobile.com download the firmware you want and flash through Odin, root
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sidvizioso said:
If I remember correctly, a few months ago there was a small update, it goes well but I had to root again the device, so how should I proceed to upgrade now?
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Just flash the stock rom .. Download it from sammobile.com for ur current version which is rooted .. And then just update via OTA ..and then u can root it ...
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How to...please enter

Hey guys im new to Samsung galaxy S3.
I have a question... can i root my S3 I9300 without using Odin ? And SuperOneclick....i mean is can i use recovery mode and update.zip like the other device ... please help me
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babyyeobo14 said:
Hey guys im new to Samsung galaxy S3.
I have a question... can i root my S3 I9300 without using Odin ? And SuperOneclick....i mean is can i use recovery mode and update.zip like the other device ... please help me
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May I know why you are not able to use Odin?
That is a very simple way to root.
It depends on your current firmware/kernel. I was able to flash and never used Odin I've rooted the phone using exynos abuse as I had really vulnerable kernel, then I installed Recovery by rom manager and flashed stuff from the open recovery. But make sure that exynos abuse works for your firmware before using it and make sure you know what you are doing and don't touch anything else then root option in this program
I install samsung kies. But still when i connect my S3 to my PC nothing happen. Sorry for my bad english
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AndroidPlant said:
May I know why you are not able to use Odin?
That is a very simple way to root.
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Can i have the link of samsungkies did u use?
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Garreth88 said:
It depends on your current firmware/kernel. I was able to flash and never used Odin I've rooted the phone using exynos abuse as I had really vulnerable kernel, then I installed Recovery by rom manager and flashed stuff from the open recovery. But make sure that exynos abuse works for your firmware before using it and make sure you know what you are doing and don't touch anything else then root option in this program
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This S3 is brand new... yesterday i got this phone and i have now stock firmware and stock kernel
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babyyeobo14 said:
This S3 is brand new... yesterday i got this phone and i have now stock firmware and stock kernel
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The date of purchase means nothing. I know that you have stock firmware, but there are many stock firmware versions (even if all are 4.1.2) and they have different vulnerabilities. I was at XXELL4 kernel at stock, which is old and vulnerable, but you may be on one of the newest kernel which can't be abused without ODIN. Please take more time to read guides and get more familiar with the phone, as your next post might start by "I've bricked my phone, please help" You will survive few days at stock rom and it seems that you don't know the basics
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I install samsung kies. But still when i connect my S3 to my PC nothing happen. Sorry for my bad english
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KIES & Odin do not play well together, hence you should deinstall KIES in case you want to use Odin, will save you a lot of time solving connection issues.
Otherwise as mentioned.
babyyeobo14 said:
Can i have the link of samsungkies did u use?
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Do not use Kies!
All you need to do is install the drivers of your phone and once that is
done and Kies is opened infront of you open, go to
Task Manager > Processes > Remove All Kies Related Applications
and then use Odin to root your phone.
1. Provide us with kernel version.
2. Are you on ICS/JB?
3. Are you on OS X? If you are use Heimdall; Mac alternative to Odin. Otherwise there is no reason why you should use anything other than Odin/Heimdall, just flash CF Root.
what do you need root for? if you don't know the difference between Kies and Odin, don't root it, you'll brick it

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