Hey everyone, I've encountered a little nuisance with my HTC One.
Under Storage the phone claims around 7GB is in use under "Other". However, when I plug the device into my computer via USB, I can't find any directories that are taking up this amount of space using Windows Explorer or Android Commander, which lets me down into the root of the filesystem.
FYI, I have Nova Launcher active as my primary UI, so I'm not even using Sense 5 at the moment. I know that 7GB can't just be Sense 5 + Built-in apps.
Anyone else seeing this and know what it is?
It actually probably is just Sense 5 and the AT&T bloat apps. Apparently Android along with the manufacturer's skins are pretty large now. Then add AT&T's useless apps that literally no one uses and you have 7gbs of storage being consumed. This is one of the reasons I'm going with the 64gb.
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its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
cachookaman said:
its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
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Wow, that's crap. What exactly is that being used for? There's no way 16gbs of space is reasonable at all.
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That's asinine that it reserves that much storage... Completely inexcusable when you factor in the lack of an SD card. Epic fail.
I think HTC realized that since they are releasing the Chinese version WITH microSD support... >_<
At least they aren't pulling the crap they used to - like with the Inspire - saying it had 4GB of storage but then formatting it for speed, dropping it to 2GB and leaving 1.3GB or so to the end user...
Still what the hell would they reserve a quarter of the storage for?!
im guessing the extra 9 GB that are part of my "other" are the SD card data for some of the apps i have installed. but it still seems excessive.
Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
spectrumfox said:
Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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jtc276 said:
It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
spectrumfox said:
Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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Agreed :good:
jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Camera, screen, speakers, CPU......
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spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Ok. Take in mind that this is from someone who was dead set on getting the S4 only a week ago. I also want to add that my non-tech-savvy iPhone-using mother was with me at the AT&T store while I was comparing phones and also agreed that the One is better.
1. The screen is smaller on the One but it has better color reproduction and, when playing the trailer for 'Star Trek Into Darkness' on both devices, produced clearer results.
2. The One's software is much more optimized and runs smoother than that on the S4. In my half an hour of constant use with both devices, the One maybe had three instances of minor lag while the S4 produced lag (sometimes major lag) every few seconds. The S4's lag was most prominent when multitasking, hitting the back button, or going home. Switching between home screens produced some stuttering but was not terrible.
3. Speaking of software, the "features" on the S4 aren't that great. Probably the most difficult thing about using the S4 was trying out the Smart features. Many of them were pretty useless such as scrolling through web pages with hand gestures. However, it did actually work and work pretty well. I also really liked having the ability to answer the phone by waving in front of the phone and seeing some general information displayed on the phone after waving my hand in front of it while it was sleeping. But that's about as useful as it gets. I could never get Eye Tracking to work. Some kid beside me finally did after nearly a minute and a half of working with it which completely defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. None of the other features really worked well either making me wonder why Samsung decided to add them to the device and bog it down in the first place.
4. Build materials are pretty bland on the S4. I'm not going to criticize them for using plastic because plastic is durable enough, but I am going to criticize them for not really differentiating the phone from the S3 in terms of look. I was, however, impressed with how they implemented the 5" screen into such a compact and usable package, but that's about it. The S4 is no looker. My mom was also not a fan of the design, thinking at first that the hyper glazed finish was some sort of case and not the actual design.
5. Sound quality through the headphones was good on both devices but better on the One due to its added amplifier. The S4 had definitely improved over the S3 and maintained a pretty loud volume. The One was slightly louder and produced more dynamic results with great highs and lows. The average person would be happy with the sound quality from either, though.
6. The general Android apps such as Texting and Email are hardly changed on the S4. For some users, this will be fine. But, personally, I hate the stock Android Messaging app. I have a Nexus 4 and have used GoSMS since the day I purchased it. I don't understand why anyone would want to view a multiple picture MMS like a slideshow instead of each photo separately. Thankfully, the One does exactly that and has a rather perfect Messaging app. Of course, you can always download GoSMS or Handcent or something from the Play store, but the fact that this won't be necessary on the One is nice.
7. This is picky, but I really liked the One's keyboard. Like, a lot. I've been a stock Android keyboard user since ICS and I didn't think that choice would change with the purchase of any new phone. But the keyboard on the One is nice. Really nice. I almost never made mistakes on the keyboard when using it. On the S4, I couldn't stop making mistakes. If you're just going to use SwiftKey or the stock Android keyboard, this probably isn't a huge deal to you. But I found it shocking that I loved the One's keyboard.
So, yeah. This is a huge post but those are my honest opinions. I was as subjective as I possibly could be and my honest opinion is that the One is the better phone.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
HTC's storage doesn't give the user a run-down of the apps that are classified as Other when you select Other.
If I go to Storage on my Galaxy Note 10.1, and push Other (on the Galaxy Note 10.1, it is classified as Miscellaneous Files), I am given a run-down of the all of the app data that is classified as Other/Miscellaneous.
The Galaxy S3 (which I switched from to get The One) has it's storage implemented in the same way on the stock ROM.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
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Exactly, specifically the /data/data folder.
Whoever said it's the system partition is incorrect.
BTW, when you buy a 32GB device, that means 32GB total NAND storage. On the One it's broken down like this:
/system 1GB
/cache 629MB
/data and /sdcard (share the same partition) 22GB, or 54GB on a 64GB model.
The rest goes to modems (/firmware/mdm and /firmware/q6), secure (/data/secure/data and /mnt/asec), and miscellaneous other partitions (logs, etc.)
Every device on the market is this way, the total NAND space is divided up between a variety of things and the usable /data and /sdcard space is generally 80 to 85% of the total.
It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm the same only 7gb though. Using TWRP I make a backup on my usb-otg. Wiped everything internal and restored from usb. Worked once or twice, didn't work today though. Probably is just system files.
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Hey, so right now I'm currently using a galaxy nexus and thinking about switching back to the Evo, but one thing that I hate is how HTC partitions the storage. I love how on the nexus and gsiii your storage space is shared between apps, and the sdcard. Is there anyway to do that on the Evo, rather than having the 2GB app space, and 9 GB sdcard. I played with the vold.fstab file before but couldn't do too much, other then switching mounting points.
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lol so I guess not.
Nothing that we, as a forum, are aware of. The only thing that we can do is swap mount points like you said (make your SD card your "internal memory" and have apps store there) but there's no (current) way of re-partitioning the storage room.
Apps usually pretty small, and you can move most of them to the 9GB partition. I don't think there is much danger of running out of space even with the 2GB partition. Are you actually worried about running out of space for apps?
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Apps usually pretty small, and you can move most of them to the 9GB partition. I don't think there is much danger of running out of space even with the 2GB partition. Are you actually worried about running out of space for apps?
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Haha, no, I actually had the Evo LTE for about a month and even after downloading millions of apps, I still had 1 Gig left. I recently traded it for a Galaxy Nexus, which I noticed how the app space was formatted. However, when I guess when you break it down, it just comes down to having 16gb vs 32gb internal storage space. Lol, I don't know, I'm thinking about switching back the Evo, I wanted to try something different for a little while because all my android phones been HTC phones. I think the software on the Galaxy Nexus, along with development is the bomb, yet the camera and battery life sucks compared to the Evo, and no kickstand . Sorry, I digress lol.
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Haha, no, I actually had the Evo LTE for about a month and even after downloading millions of apps, I still had 1 Gig left. I recently traded it for a Galaxy Nexus, which I noticed how the app space was formatted. However, when I guess when you break it down, it just comes down to having 16gb vs 32gb internal storage space. Lol, I don't know, I'm thinking about switching back the Evo, I wanted to try something different for a little while because all my android phones been HTC phones. I think the software on the Galaxy Nexus, along with development is the bomb, yet the camera and battery life sucks compared to the Evo, and no kickstand . Sorry, I digress lol.
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I agree it would be nice if the app and data partitions are unified like on the Nexus 7, but in reality, it's not really a problem for 99.9% of the EvoLTE users.
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Haha, no, I actually had the Evo LTE for about a month and even after downloading millions of apps, I still had 1 Gig left. I recently traded it for a Galaxy Nexus, which I noticed how the app space was formatted. However, when I guess when you break it down, it just comes down to having 16gb vs 32gb internal storage space. Lol, I don't know, I'm thinking about switching back the Evo, I wanted to try something different for a little while because all my android phones been HTC phones. I think the software on the Galaxy Nexus, along with development is the bomb, yet the camera and battery life sucks compared to the Evo, and no kickstand . Sorry, I digress lol.
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And the performance
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And the performance
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Haha well the performance on the galaxy nexus isn't that bad, besides some lag with games like dead trigger and the annoying fact the 1080p videos can't play without skipping haha. But launcher wise much smoother than sense.
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
Proz00 said:
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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Then they will fail along with Apple :good:. Oh wait.. *looks at HTC's profits*
Proz00 said:
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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djwalter said:
I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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With the iPhone being the gold standard in phone design and Google's Nexus phones moving towards no external storage and non-replaceable batteries, I think the other OEMs are taking suit and following. It is a shame since I utilize two batteries (both standard) to keep me afloat when I don't have downtime to charge my Rezound around 12-2pm every day. Android/Android+UI skins and the hardware are not optimized enough to offer what the iPhone can - a 1440mAH battery and all day or longer battery life.
To OP:
I disagree with HTC picking "a side". They release phones on multiple carriers, unlike Apple's original stance with AT&T-only. A problem is the fact they are having an identity crisis at the moment. They're phones are labeled under carrier-owned franchises (DROID, EVO, etc) rather than their own (e.g.: one), although it seems like they're working on that...slowly. They're definitely the last one to the game out of the big 3, with Motorola reviving the 'RAZR' platform and Samsung running with their 'Galaxy' series. It's fragmented in a way for non-carrier branded phones, like the Thunderbolt to the Rezound to now Droid DNA. No consumer who doesn't have an interest in phones like we do will ever realize the successors and predecessors because these are all new phone names...not just a new generation (like iPhone 5 or the GS3 or even RAZR HD). They need to stick with the 'one' branding and work on only a couple of phones at a time and spread it across all carriers possible to grant the most access to consumers. Motorola tried the whole 'let's throw a bunch of phones against a wall and see which ones stick'...it didn't get them too far and then they were overwhelmed with phone updates (sound ... familiar?). Although exclusivity is excellent for the carrier, it's negative for the manufacturer...and with no manufacturer, no phone. In the US, the manufacturer needs carrier support more than the carriers need an individual manufacturer.
In reality, I think HTC realizes this mistake due to the falling bottom line and is hopefully getting plans to turn this sinking ship around. After enjoying AOSP on the OG Droid to despising MotoBlur on the DX (and going with CM7) to actually enjoying the aesthetics Sense 3.5 and now Sense 4 (seriously, the Rezound should have had an OEM upgrade to Sense 4), my phone has been rock solid since launch day, exactly one year ago today (oh shiz, my warranty expires today!). I enjoy HTC's build quality and having an OEM-supported unlockable bootloader and a community-supported S-OFF initiative and wish them the best in turning themselves around. Never have I ever been so content with a phone until I got the Rezound...and a year later, I still love this device. It does everything I want and then some.
TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
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This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
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I fail to see what's so Reddit about that post.
But I do agree that only 16GB of storage is a load of bull.
@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
u mean more iFanboys like ?
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@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
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With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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kyuubi08 said:
With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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The weird thing is I saw a 32 gig sd card on ebay for the DNA. Which is weird considering no sd slot unless it's an internal sd slot like the early wp7 devices.
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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Personally, at 11gb usable, I think this phone will have a hard time selling, especially when following the Note 2 (only reason I could see buying the DNA over the Note - price. That being said, people are picking up the Note 2, on AT&T, for $199. Yeah, the DNA has a better looking spec sheet...but, it is DEFINITELY not for me). I would buy a phablet so I would not have to carry a phone (to listen to my music) AND a 7" tablet to read/minor surfing. Still need a 10" Tablet... All that said...I love HTC products. Bought the Inspire, upgraded to the Vivid, downgraded to the Inspire again, bought the HTC Flyer tablet.
With all due respect, if so few people care about no "more than 16 gigs of storage", why did Google drop the Nexus 8 gig line? Why is their no 8 gig line? I think the people HAVE spoken by saying if you ARE going to take our storage cards away, at least give us the option to increase our storage space from the get go. My guess is, you will see other "options" available as time goes on. Also, though we are seeing more phones come available with no removable battery/no sd card, my guess is there will always be people wanting those features. As we become more and more mobile and phones become larger, we will change our viewing habits from TV at home to watching them via phone/tablet. There will be a need for larger and larger memory options. Add the clamp down on internet usage, throttling, etc., people are not going to WANT to use a cloud for their music/videos, especially as we are primarily an instant gratification society.
Today, there may only be a small percentage who care about more than 16 gigs (I would tend to disagree with that statement but anywho). Tomorrow, the numbers will grow...and grow...and grow. Apple is expecting to double the 7" tablet market every year for the next 2 years. The more I do away from my 10TB of HDD space at home, the more I am going to need when mobile.
I cant wait till I see all this blow over
Very simply said .
Google, apple and now HTC took away our SD card slots to put every thing on a cloud
Verizon took away our unlimited , even thought ATT let their old customers keep it with upgrading
The DNA takes away removable battery , so if you run out , well your not carrying a mobile any more
Then , to my surprise, this particular HTC phone (the DNA) doesent surf and talk on 3g like all HTC 4g phones . (DONT START THE ARGUMENT THAT 3G IS INCAPABLE OF IT, LOOK AT TBOLT, S3 AND REZOUND FORUMS).
to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
Where do you guys think this is going to go ? I simply can not predict an outcome, but i feel like not only are we just bending over, we just swallowed too
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to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good. Will the 1080 screen be nice, sure, worth buying another HTC device that will take 9 years to never see a update, not a snowballs chance in hell. HTC might could win me back as a customer if they actually start updating their devices and listen to their customers, but until then, no thanks. The rezound will be my last I believe. I damn sure am not buying a device that doesn't have a removable battery. And the only way I am giving up an SD card is if it comes with a 64 gb variant. Which it doesn't. Even apple realizes this, so this nonsense from google and HTC about not including SD slots is stupid if you won't at least give us ones with 32/64 gb internal memories.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
Furthermore, I suspect you can too: one foot is quite close, and if I bring the screen closer than about eight inches, I can no longer focus my eyes on it, so one foot is close to the optimal distance for seeing pixels, and you said yourself that you can see then from some position.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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Yes, but it does make the pixels distinctly visible, and shows that at 720p, pixels are easily visible, which is all that I was saying.
I'm going to be upgrading on AT&T soon and am looking at the phone market closely. I'm in-between the LGOG and the HTC OneX+. I have a couple of questions.
1. How similar is the LGOG to the Nexus 4?
If they are slightly similar, could N4 roms be easily ported?
2. Does it look like dev support is going to be good.
3. Do you feel this phone is future proof? At lease for 2+ years.
My captivate is still kicking thanks to the wonderful devs. It is truly amazing what they have done. If the same will be true for this device it's a
no-brainer.
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I'm going to be upgrading on AT&T soon and am looking at the phone market closely. I'm in-between the LGOG and the HTC OneX+. I have a couple of questions.
1. How similar is the LGOG to the Nexus 4?
If they are slightly similar, could N4 roms be easily ported?
2. Does it look like dev support is going to be good.
3. Do you feel this phone is future proof? At lease for 2+ years.
My captivate is still kicking thanks to the wonderful devs. It is truly amazing what they have done. If the same will be true for this device it's a
no-brainer.
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1. Very similar, almost the same phone. According to the guys in chat once the kinks are worked out n4 roms will be easily portable.
2. Rooted and unlocked this fast. N4 ports... Probably.
3. It's basically got everything a new phone could possibly have. Nothing on the market touches it... That said no way of knowing if devs will stay. I just moved from a captivate also. It stayed alive that long because of the i9000 devs. This will probably last even longer being so close to the n4.
All my opinion of coarse..
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1. Very similar, almost the same phone. According to the guys in chat once the kinks are worked out n4 roms will be easily portable.
2. Rooted and unlocked this fast. N4 ports... Probably.
3. It's basically got everything a new phone could possibly have. Nothing on the market touches it... That said no way of knowing if devs will stay. I just moved from a captivate also. It stayed alive that long because of the i9000 devs. This will probably last even longer being so close to the n4.
All my opinion of coarse..
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Thanks I just order it cause I saw ten minutes ago bestbuy raised the price back up to $199. I ordered it on amazon before they too raise the price. For $99 it was too good to pass up. And I'm really hoping this device is as great as the cappy was. However, just stock looks pretty good. LG did a great job of implementing some most wanted features in stock. Fingers-crossed for CM10.1!!
I'm also on the fence between the OG and OneX+. I really thought I wanted a N4, but this phone seems to be better, especially with the sd slot. I've got two more weeks before I can upgrade, but I'm leaning towards the OG over the HTC, it seems more future proof.
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I'm also on the fence between the OG and OneX+. I really thought I wanted a N4, but this phone seems to be better, especially with the sd slot. I've got two more weeks before I can upgrade, but I'm leaning towards the OG over the HTC, it seems more future proof.
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I played with both and the OG had a much nicer screen. Also, the OneX+ doesn't have a menu button and I noticed on some apps there was a really big on-screen menu button that was ugly.
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Definitely better than the one x+, the snapdragon s4 pro on the Optimus G smokes the Tegra 4 in one x+. Everything is buttery smooth on Optimus even with ics. One x+ is having jellybean but sense still lags. The only thing which is awesome on the one x+ is the display and camera. But Optimus is very close on both those department as well. If you are looking future proof for a while like 6 months to 1 year the Optimus G is not a bad option. One X+ SOC is already old.
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Another question: Does the phone come with 16GBs internal or 32GBs internal?
There is a lot of mixed answers. Att had the phone listed as 32 but expandable to 80Gb (with a 64gb SD card). Amazon list it as 16 but comes with a 16 micro SD card.
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Another question: Does the phone come with 16GBs internal or 32GBs internal?
There is a lot of mixed answers. Att had the phone listed as 32 but expandable to 80Gb (with a 64gb SD card). Amazon list it as 16 but comes with a 16 micro SD card.
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The AT&T version comes with 16 GB of on-board storage and a 16 GB micro SD card so it Does comes with 32 GB out of the box. But, you can replace the micro SD card with one up to 64 GB and increase your storage. Now the Sprint and International versions both have 32 GB of built in storage, but no micro SD slot to expand it.
Hope that helps.
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The AT&T version comes with 16 GB of on-board storage and a 16 GB micro SD card so it Does comes with 32 GB out of the box. But, you can replace the micro SD card with one up to 64 GB and increase your storage. Now the Sprint and International versions both have 32 GB of built in storage, but no micro SD slot to expand it.
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Thanks. Still so worth it just for the expandable option. I have a 64 GB sdcard just waiting. I have a gnex right now, love the fast updates, hate being held back by storage.
One of the devs should look into a storage swap script. On my tab, I use a SD swap script that make the internal the external and the external the internal. Works great for all those large games that get installed on the internal memory.
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I broke down and called AT&T this morning about upgrading me a couple weeks early. "You've been a loyal customer...blah, blah, blah...., no problem, we'll get it send out tomorrow." So with the overnight shipping option, I should have my LGOG by Tuesday...can't wait. I did miss the $99 deal, so I had to shell out the full $199, but since a couple weeks ago I tried my hardest to get google to take $349 from me for a 16GB N4, I guess I still saved a good bit.
Thanks for everyone's input...looking forward to seeing what we can make this thing do.
Hello, long time reader but first time poster. I have been a iPhone user for a long time. I am not really happy with the design of the new iPhone. I am really excited about the DNA. Question is: How good is the phone? I'm not so concerned with rooting yet but functionality and performance. Any input would be great. Ty in advance.
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Hello, long time reader but first time poster. I have been a iPhone user for a long time. I am not really happy with the design of the new iPhone. I am really excited about the DNA. Question is: How good is the phone? I'm not so concerned with rooting yet but functionality and performance. Any input would be great. Ty in advance.
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As a device, it is top-notch. It is a good daily driver. As a development device, not so much. However as you said, that doesn't bother you. I am tempted to keep it stock and just do my futzing around on the Gnex.
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Hello, long time reader but first time poster. I have been a iPhone user for a long time. I am not really happy with the design of the new iPhone. I am really excited about the DNA. Question is: How good is the phone? I'm not so concerned with rooting yet but functionality and performance. Any input would be great. Ty in advance.
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How are you along time iphone user but not happy with the new iphone design? It's been the same for 2 yrs! like you i was a iphone user 2g,3g 3gs,4 once i went to android, Atrix 4g. I've never looked back. i left the razr maxx for the DNA and i love it! battery is not as good as a lot of phones out there but it is by no mean horrible. jelly bean is smooth as well....the DNA's screen! This phone is a beast. but coming from a ios to android their is a bit of a learning curve. In my opinion you would have no regrets choosing this phone.
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How are you along time iphone user but not happy with the new iphone design? It's been the same for 2 yrs!
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Correct, it has been the same. I personally was hoping for a "wider" screen. As far as hardware its fine. Just wished Apple kind of redesigned it to a wider and taller screen like the S3 or DNA. So, that is really my reason to change. I still use all apple in home and at work but am looking for something more enjoyable and visually pleasing in a phone.
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Correct, it has been the same. I personally was hoping for a "wider" screen. As far as hardware its fine. Just wished Apple kind of redesigned it to a wider and taller screen like the S3 or DNA. So, that is really my reason to change. I still use all apple in home and at work but am looking for something more enjoyable and visually pleasing in a phone.
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Then you would love the DNA
I was really impressed with the DNA at the store this morning. I'm trying to figure out how I can switch to it, though, with no expansion option. I've got a 32GB card in my TBolt and 29GB is used. I hardly have any music. About 3.5GB of pics (which I can offload) and about 1GB for Dropbox. Not sure where the other space is being used but I've moved a lot of apps to the SD to save internal storage.
It was very snappy, though, and I was almost sold. Now it's back up in the air. Nothing looks like a good replacement to my TBolt and I never thought I'd say that. :silly:
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I was really impressed with the DNA at the store this morning. I'm trying to figure out how I can switch to it, though, with no expansion option. I've got a 32GB card in my TBolt and 29GB is used. I hardly have any music. About 3.5GB of pics (which I can offload) and about 1GB for Dropbox. Not sure where the other space is being used but I've moved a lot of apps to the SD to save internal storage.
It was very snappy, though, and I was almost sold. Now it's back up in the air. Nothing looks like a good replacement to my TBolt and I never thought I'd say that. :silly:
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Nandroids.
I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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I had the HTC One before the S4 that I have now. All I will say is that as soon as the One drops on Verizon, I will be switching back. I test phones on a daily basis and the One is the best phone I've used to date. You won't be disappointed with either, but I prefer the One. Sense is much better than Touchwiz now IMO and the build quality and audio can't be beat. I prefer the screen on the One also
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I didn't buy the ONE (or wait for it) because of the reviews. You might like the HTC ONE based on if you want metal build, smaller screen (equals 468 ppi to 441 ppi in S4 slightly sharper text) and the BOOM sound (front facing speakers). With no SD expansion or removable battery, that was a deal killer for me. S4 has better specs and is already made for the AWS network for Verizon (faster LTE speeds). Also, HTC is by far the worst EVER of getting updates out for their phones (yes, even worse then Motorola at their worst)
for me S4 was the no brainer deal for me
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I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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If you will be rooting, the only thing the One would have over the S4 is BoomSound and a nicer case. Being unable to swap SD cards or batteries would bug me. If all you need is a bigger screen and you can wait, why not wait a few more months for a Note 3 or One Max?
I had an Evo 4G before the S4 (I never rooted it), so I've got nothing against HTC. HTC doesn't seem to offer (read, foist on you) the suite of apps Samsung does. Samsung seems to be trying to push their content store to compete with Google Play, so I hope future updates don't add tons of bloat related to the Samsung app store...
I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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Not a fan of HTC anymore. I had all the EVOs.
I'd take the S4 all day long over the One. Just a matter of personal preference.
Doesnt HTC take a lonnnnnnng ass time or never to release source? While Samsung does it on day 1, yea good luck with HTC and the handicapped Roms for it.
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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The firmware update that allows apps to be moved to SD card makes your invalid argument invalid again.
I pick the S4 for the reasons stated. No expandable memory, no removable battery, HTC has garbage update schedules, and weaker specs.
But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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It all boils down to preference. Most people want good battery life and cool apps or software. I've used both and when the One releases on Verizon I will have both and use both,
... But to answer the question I will use the S4 more since the battery does last a bit longer and it can do some pretty cool stuff, but most of all I believe there will be more customization on the S4. Lord knows I am a customization fool,. Cheers!!!
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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This is certainly important if you do not want to root the S4. I bet there will be root apps that can redirect app installations to the SD card, if they don't already exist. And Samsung will probably get native full external card installation working eventually. Or they're going to see sales drop off as more and more people bump up against that limit, and scramble to fix it. Why they didn't do this in first place is beyond me - especially with such a small built-in card. Either they wanted to sell more of their own SD cards, they wanted an excuse to charge heaps more for just a little more memory, or Apple sued them into not doing it.
And batteries get old. It might need replacing. Sometimes.
I used to be a diehard htc fan since the original evo but after the one was put on hold, and the poor development and official htc support for the rezound, I doubt I'll go back. I will miss htc but they dropped the ball far too many times and I know it will happen again (maybe not for their current devices) even though they cannot afford to screw anything else up. So bottom line, do you want a pretty phone with nice sound and a slightly, yet not noticeably better screen? Or do you want a larger screen, insane amount of dev and Samsung support for years to come, and removable battery and storage?
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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No, the update that is coming out will not require root. It's an OTA update that lets you move apps to the SD card again.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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Thunderbolt was released in March of 2011. The first ICS device was the Galaxy Nexus which was released November 2011. Does not invalidate your point, though. I was a 'bolt owner, too. It was out for about six months before viable LTE phones were releases (Rezound, Bionic), and even those were not all that great. It got truly usable when Liquid 3.2 was released for AOSP and SkyRaider Zeus was released for Sense. Those were a LONG time after the phone was released, though.
I view it as an early adopter thing, not an HTC thing. We are going to experience the same thing with AWS. Odds are this phone will suck for AWS...the hardware is too far out in front of the service release...no way there won't be issues that are patched around, etc.
S-off will really help get the dev work going on the One. I think it is a perfectly viable alternative to this phone really. Just a different flavor. I have never had a Samsung phone so for me, that was part of the appeal...something different.
if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
YouTube benchmarks on comparisons... You may be surprised how much slower HTC one is.
If you don't like touch wiz, there's lots of options... I use nova launcher on cube mode and love it.
While many defend it, sense does eat up processor attention.
Main advantage with HTC is reading in bright sunlight, 95 percent of my reading is indoors, metal case is nice.
I like options for different batteries, external memory, better camera, better software.... To each his own but benchmarks alone mean little if those benchmarks don't depict real life use.
If you love the best camera you can get, go S4, if you listen to music through speakers then HTC, if through headphones S4 has nice equalizing software.
I personally feel real life pictures can be boring.. I like high saturation of Hd amoled screen.
The Hd mode on the camera makes a perfect picture in crappy lighting!
The S3 has up to a 7000mah battery avail, not sure what they will come up with for the S4 but I don't like bring limited. http://zerolemon.com/
Anyway, each phone is nice, but they both have things the other doesn't.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
I own both and really like both. However, if I had to choose only one, it would be the S IV.
The main reason is battery life and how long the One takes to charge.
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if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
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Yea, that note 3 I have my eye on!
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4