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Hello, um using the wolfbreak gaming rom (Gaming ROM with DooMKernel Version) and im using Go Launcher Ex. The problem is when i go to main menu and scroll/swipe with different effects on, eg Binary star, Chariot etc. It lags like hell but when i use default it doesnt. But on my Advance Task Killer its showing me I have like 172Mb ram free....why laggning then??
Thank You!!
When that happens I uninstall and reinstall the launcher idk why but it works and become smooth again
Hello,
Sorry for my bad english.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2, and flash'ed the Resurrection Remix 1.7 ROM. BEST!
What I missed is a Taskmanager like the original Samsung ROM Taskmanager.
You can see what is open (okay... I can see this with ICS too), whats in the Background open (this I cant see), and how much RAM it eats /how much RAM is free...
I looked at the Play Store, and there are Apps, they are old (are they still ICS compatible?), or they are ugly or have Ads like "Wanna have better Battery!?! OMG!!! Download my all-can-fix-app here".
I dont want anything, only the funktion, whats in the Background open, and how much RAM it eats... Like in the Samsung ROM with the one widget.
Sorry for my bad english.
Hope you can help me. Becouse I dont find something...
Thanks.
+1 I was wondering about this too.
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you dont need a task manager on android
android manages ram differently
if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life
apps in the back ground are frozen and wont affect performance but u can remove them in the ics multitasking UI
bluefa1con said:
...you dont need a task manager on android...
...android manages ram differently...
...if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life...
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Thanks for the answer.
But when I will watch/show (...my english... ugly!) what is in the background? Or what CPU eats?
Can ICS show me this too? Becouse I doesent find enything. In Stuck ICS from Samsung, I can watch it, and so I can see, for example:
I have installed "Testapp A", and I wonder, why the battery will be so short, I go to Samsung Taskmanager, and it shows me that the App running in the Background, so I go to Play Store, and delete this app. So it dont running more...
With Stuck ICS I wonder, why the battery goes down... I looked. And an App was in Background. A Game... So I have deleted this crap.
Do you know what I mean? Its for me more Diagnostical, I know, when I kill something, it will restart.
Maybie it´s not a Taskmanager, it´s more a Diagnostical app?
Sorry for this english.
bluefa1con said:
you dont need a task manager on android
android manages ram differently
if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life
apps in the back ground are frozen and wont affect performance but u can remove them in the ics multitasking UI
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what a bunch of bull
background apps are frozen on iOS, not on android, they fully run, hence the term "full multitasking".
also, just services will restart on their own, normal apps, like youtube, games and so on are fully quittable, why would they restart? do you think all your apps run all the time?
the more ram is consumed, the more power the device uses, so exitting background apps saves battery.
i am also still looking for a good task manager like the samsung stock one, because in ics, some apps just don't quit, like skifta, with the dlna server running all day the battery life goes down massively and swiping it away in the recent apps screen just doesn't quit it.
Chef_Tony said:
what a bunch of bull
background apps are frozen on iOS, not on android, they fully run, hence the term "full multitasking".
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Actually it's not a bunch of bull. You can freeze apps on android using Titanium Backup. Also you can disable some apps that you don't use (not all of them allow it) or don't use frequently with just app manager in system settings. Then you can re-enable them when needed.
You can try apps like Task Killer, etc... (and make sure you kill it too so it's not on all the time), but it's not as good as freezing with TB.
Good luck.
Don't know if this is "ugly", but it's ad-free anyway - Diagnosis.
I like it anyway, and the dev is great, posts on the apps section. His SD Maid app is a godsend.
I use ES Task Manager. Find it useful and you can also mange cache and startup programs.
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I've been testing go launcher to see whether it suffers from home screen redraw issues and so far it seems that after about an hour of testing by using apps, keeping around 8 max apps in memory , the launcher has not redrawn yet.
The phone has killed apps but not the launcher.
Sure its a tired launcher but its fast as hell especially with animation settings at 0.5 and seems so far to be resistant to home screen redraw.
Will post back if anything changes but so far all good.
Cheers.
Nova launcher is waaaayyy better than go launcher and never redraws either!
I don't like those Chinese type things like miui or go launcher etc.
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Every launher so far redraws including nova. I'm not saying go launcher is amazing I'm just saying so far it is the only launcher that doesn't suffer from home screen redraw.
Tw , apex and Nova all suffer from redraw from time to time whether people like to admit it or not.
Just trying to help :-D
Peace.
biffsmash said:
Every launher so far redraws including nova. I'm not saying go launcher is amazing I'm just saying so far it is the only launcher that doesn't suffer from home screen redraw.
Tw , apex and Nova all suffer from redraw from time to time whether people like to admit it or not.
Just trying to help :-D
Peace.
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Well I would admit it if it did.
I don't work for nova or anything!
Maybe you should try android.mimic.ca and use that to upload your services.jar and change the oom priority settings.
It stops the launcher being killed off.
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Well I would admit it if it did.
I don't work for nova or anything!
Maybe you should try android.mimic.ca and use that to upload your services.jar and change the oom priority settings.
It stops the launcher being killed off.
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Surely this procedure is just moving the problem elsewhere. The screen re-draws because it needed the RAM to service what you were just doing. Then you hit home and it assigns the memory back to the launcher.
So, what would the performance have been like with the app/webpage you were looking at before hitting home if the launcher is now hogging the RAM it needed. Surely instead you'll now get crashing browsers as its out of RAM.
The real cure to this is trying to reduce the amount of RAM the whole OS is using. The ROMs are huge especially compared to the S2 which never suffered with the re-draw problem as it always had loads of memory/RAM to play with.
All these new features have cost us performance as the RAM is the same as the last model. I'd rather of had 2 cores with 2MB of RAM rather than 4 cores with 1MB of RAM. How did Samsung get this the wrong way round? Guess it must have been the whole "Quad Core" marketing crap balanced with cost of production.
The problem is de-bloating and thining the ROM down to stop this RAM issues makes this an S2 with a bigger higher res screen. All the new features need to be taken out.
I experienced my first redraw on Go launcher first time i launched firefox after installation yesterday. I uninstalled immediately as I didn't like it.
This issue would suggest 1GB internal RAM isn't sufficient for the S3.
mwatson said:
Surely this procedure is just moving the problem elsewhere. The screen re-draws because it needed the RAM to service what you were just doing. Then you hit home and it assigns the memory back to the launcher.
So, what would the performance have been like with the app/webpage you were looking at before hitting home if the launcher is now hogging the RAM it needed. Surely instead you'll now get crashing browsers as its out of RAM.
The real cure to this is trying to reduce the amount of RAM the whole OS is using. The ROMs are huge especially compared to the S2 which never suffered with the re-draw problem as it always had loads of memory/RAM to play with.
All these new features have cost us performance as the RAM is the same as the last model. I'd rather of had 2 cores with 2MB of RAM rather than 4 cores with 1MB of RAM. How did Samsung get this the wrong way round? Guess it must have been the whole "Quad Core" marketing crap balanced with cost of production.
The problem is de-bloating and thining the ROM down to stop this RAM issues makes this an S2 with a bigger higher res screen. All the new features need to be taken out.
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It doesn't move the problem, the oom settings were too aggressive.
I haven't had a launcher redraw since, never had an app crash and don't experience this music stopping problem that other people are having.
Its not a lack of ram that's the problem, its Samsung poor ram management settings.
Although that's not to say these roms couldn't do with losing a few pounds, 600mb+ for a rom is obscene.
Its still early days in S3 development so I'm sure the devs will sort it all out.
Remember the s2 has had loads of time for devs to fine tune every aspect of roms and kernels etc.
Modifying the launchers oom priority has worked for me so at the end of the day people can try it or not.
I'm happy with how I have my system running.
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go launcher works very great for me! no lag at all
You can try moving your launcher to the system/app folder ... tha "status" of system application is different than "standard" apps.
I haven't had a redraw since the latest few jb. I completely forgot about the problem until I saw this thread.
not that it matters, but I'm on apex launcher.
i've been using my galaxy s3 for the past one month, i was really amazed by everything that phone has to offer. sadly though my phone started to lag after a week. then i got a firmware update from samsung through kies. after the update my phone's performance started to considerably improve and i was happy about that but again after a week of use the phone started to lag. i have a huge list of apps installed on my phone and mostly runs in the background and also loads of widgets too. my max ram usage usually stays at 677 mb sometimes reaches 721 mb which is too high. due to this i know its a part of my mistake too for my phone to lag because of many apps installed. so i factory reset my phone and after fresh boot it was around 584 mb. after some essential apps like facebook, twitter and few more apps my ram count was back to 680 mb.
sigh!!! now that really pissed me off. so i turned off and on few background processes in the settings until i went into the "Security" after turning off the "Ripple Effect" and BAMM!! my ram usage reduced to 420 mb and stayed there. even after installing every huge load of apps i had before my ram surprisingly still stays around 480 mb which is by far so awesome for my heavy usage. maybe others can try this and see if this the real reason for all the heavy ram usage. may be i'm wrong. by the way my phone lags no more after i turned off the ripple effect and no more "launcher reloads" too. i'm using Nova Launcher, my phone is rooted and no task killers installed. other than cf-root everything else is stock.
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I'll try this now and report back
I haven't noticed a change with it on or off to be honest. I was at about 480mb before and I'm at the same now!
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Hmm, 480mb before lock, 496 immediately after unlock, drops down to 476 shortly after. It uses about 20mb from what I can see.
Kryten2k35 said:
I haven't noticed a change with it on or off to be honest. I was at about 480mb before and I'm at the same now!
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Hmm, 480mb before lock, 496 immediately after unlock, drops down to 476 shortly after. It uses about 20mb from what I can see.
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my girlfriend's s3 had a ram usage amount of around 630 mb, i just disabled the ripple effect on her phone now it shows 410 mb after cleaning the ram. may be users with heavy ram usage can see the difference. watever, she was happy with it and made me a sandwich
It seems to be a little better but its still hard to tell
I have about 244mb free running xda
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androidified said:
my girlfriend's s3 had a ram usage amount of around 630 mb, i just disabled the ripple effect on her phone now it shows 410 mb after cleaning the ram. may be users with heavy ram usage can see the difference. watever, she was happy with it and made me a sandwich
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om nom nom :cyclops:
androidified said:
i've been using my galaxy s3 for the past one month, i was really amazed by everything that phone has to offer. sadly though my phone started to lag after a week. then i got a firmware update from samsung through kies. after the update my phone's performance started to considerably improve and i was happy about that but again after a week of use the phone started to lag. i have a huge list of apps installed on my phone and mostly runs in the background and also loads of widgets too. my max ram usage usually stays at 677 mb sometimes reaches 721 mb which is too high. due to this i know its a part of my mistake too for my phone to lag because of many apps installed. so i factory reset my phone and after fresh boot it was around 584 mb. after some essential apps like facebook, twitter and few more apps my ram count was back to 680 mb.
sigh!!! now that really pissed me off. so i turned off and on few background processes in the settings until i went into the "Security" after turning off the "Ripple Effect" and BAMM!! my ram usage reduced to 420 mb and stayed there. even after installing every huge load of apps i had before my ram surprisingly still stays around 480 mb which is by far so awesome for my heavy usage. maybe others can try this and see if this the real reason for all the heavy ram usage. may be i'm wrong. by the way my phone lags no more after i turned off the ripple effect and no more "launcher reloads" too. i'm using Nova Launcher, my phone is rooted and no task killers installed. other than cf-root everything else is stock.
Hit Thanks if I helped...!!!
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The system can manage the RAM very well. It will end applications accordingly when the RAM usage gets close to its maximum limit. You dont have to worry about any lags. I never have to clear the memory and I reboot my phone once a week or so.
Unused ram is wasted ram
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Lennyuk said:
Unused ram is wasted ram
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+100!
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Where's the other 200MB of RAM gone, though? These are 1GB devices, no?
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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I agree that the phone should use as much ram as possible but my problem is that it doesnt keep things in ram that i want it to because all the stock things take up so much space.
For example, i play some games like "draw something" and often it has to reload the app after ive been out of it for a while. Or even worse, it has to reload the home screen icons and widgets when i leave an app. That second one is that one that really pi#$es me off. Why doesnt it keep the home screen in ram?
Also this is advertised as having 1gb of ram right? Why does it only display 780mb? I tried turning off the ripple effect with minimal change in ram usage. Ive checked the running apps but theres nothing using a particularly large amount of ram. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its really frustrating because i had a galaxy s2 running ICS which had the same amount of ram but it always had like 300-400 mb free and always kept things in ram ready to go. now i usually only have 100-200mb and it always closes the apps i want kept open, ESECIALLY the HOME SCREEN icons and widgets. So frustrating.
Help? Please?
Jaisah said:
I agree that the phone should use as much ram as possible but my problem is that it doesnt keep things in ram that i want it to because all the stock things take up so much space.
For example, i play some games like "draw something" and often it has to reload the app after ive been out of it for a while. Or even worse, it has to reload the home screen icons and widgets when i leave an app. That second one is that one that really pi#$es me off. Why doesnt it keep the home screen in ram?
Also this is advertised as having 1gb of ram right? Why does it only display 780mb? I tried turning off the ripple effect with minimal change in ram usage. Ive checked the running apps but theres nothing using a particularly large amount of ram. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its really frustrating because i had a galaxy s2 running ICS which had the same amount of ram but it always had like 300-400 mb free and always kept things in ram ready to go. now i usually only have 100-200mb and it always closes the apps i want kept open, ESECIALLY the HOME SCREEN icons and widgets. So frustrating.
Help? Please?
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even i have the same issues with the home screen. i dont use the default TouchWiz launcher, i use Nova. I made it a system app by moving the apk to the system folder. after this the launcher's performance is much better compared the past. even though it still reloads sometime after i launch some heavy apps like GTA or few other games.
what i think about the heavy RAM usage when compared to the SGS2 is the use of many background process for the motion and other smart features in SGS3. you can try disabling the few you dont use much, it might help reduce the heavy RAM usage but there isn't much we could do about the RAM usage.
i tried few of those unofficial stock 4.1 jelly bean ROMs, compared to the official ICS they are much faster and the total RAM was above 820mb which is a really good thing. the usage of RAM in ideal state is very minimum also the touchwiz launcher had no unnecessary reloads as far as i checked. i guess we need to wait few more days until samsung releases the official version. may be in that all the RAM issues will be fixed.
Use titanium backup to freeze the bloat.
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androidified said:
even i have the same issues with the home screen. i dont use the default TouchWiz launcher, i use Nova. I made it a system app by moving the apk to the system folder. after this the launcher's performance is much better compared the past. even though it still reloads sometime after i launch some heavy apps like GTA or few other games.
what i think about the heavy RAM usage when compared to the SGS2 is the use of many background process for the motion and other smart features in SGS3. you can try disabling the few you dont use much, it might help reduce the heavy RAM usage but there isn't much we could do about the RAM usage.
i tried few of those unofficial stock 4.1 jelly bean ROMs, compared to the official ICS they are much faster and the total RAM was above 820mb which is a really good thing. the usage of RAM in ideal state is very minimum also the touchwiz launcher had no unnecessary reloads as far as i checked. i guess we need to wait few more days until samsung releases the official version. may be in that all the RAM issues will be fixed.
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Care to share how do you make nova a system app? Using omega v13.
Ev0d3vil said:
Care to share how do you make nova a system app? Using omega v13.
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the easy way to do it is by Titanium Backup Pro. first your phone should be rooted then Open Titanium Backup > Select the App you want to convert > then choose "Convert to System App"
if you dont have TB Pro then you must have a File Manager App with Root access.
make sure your system folder has write access
go to the location /data/app
search for the file "com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk"
move that file to /system/app
restart your phone
After changing Nova to system app you will definitely feel the difference in its performance.
Yes, the ram is not to use the phone and he drove.
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Phone itself does ram processes to manage load and use.
LG9 ROM has excellent memory usage. With stuff open I now idle around 480. Not very often does it go into the high 600's like before.
androidified said:
the easy way to do it is by Titanium Backup Pro. first your phone should be rooted then Open Titanium Backup > Select the App you want to convert > then choose "Convert to System App"
if you dont have TB Pro then you must have a File Manager App with Root access.
make sure your system folder has write access
go to the location /data/app
search for the file "com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk"
move that file to /system/app
restart your phone
After changing Nova to system app you will definitely feel the difference in its performance.
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Alright great. What if I want to revert it?
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Ev0d3vil said:
Alright great. What if I want to revert it?
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move back the same file from /system/app to /data/app and restart the phone.
Noob android user here.
When I first got my s3 it was snappy and fast but after a year it has really slowed down. I have 4gb of free space and I also have tried cleaning cache.
What can I do to make it snappy again? any help would be appreciated.
I here talk about bloatware removal, What does it actually remove?
I highly recommend using Nova Launcher from the playstore. Go to developer settings and switch animations to .5, default is 1.0x.
Nova gives you more customization than touchwiz and from what I've read it uses less RAM than touchwiz. Win win.
In nova settings, also switch the transitions to fast.
Removing bloatware is self explanatory. You basically get rid of apps that you don't use that come pre installed on your device and you cannot actually uninstall.
Most custom roms are debloated. For this you need root access though.
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IXChicharitoXI said:
I highly recommend using Nova Launcher from the playstore. Go to developer settings and switch animations to .5, default is 1.0x.
Nova gives you more customization than touchwiz and from what I've read it uses less RAM than touchwiz. Win win.
In nova settings, also switch the transitions to fast.
Removing bloatware is self explanatory. You basically get rid of apps that you don't use that come pre installed on your device and you cannot actually uninstall.
Most custom roms are debloated. For this you need root access though.
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Well I am rooted and I am using nova because I used to have homescreen redraws.
uf21 said:
Well I am rooted and I am using nova because I used to have homescreen redraws.
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Which galaxy s 3 are you using? If you're rooted, have you tried different roms? Most roms come tweaked for better performance and debloated. Just read the OP to see what you're getting.
Check for any apps settings like Facebook, Twitter, weather, anything that may be syncing in the background.
Things like that take up RAM so when you use other apps it'll slow you down cause everything is working at once.
I highly suggest downloading Greenify from the playstore.
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The Fastest and the easiest way would be to switch to a custom ROM, especially slimmed down ones. I'm personally using Neat ROM Lite and I have been more than satisfied with its performance. I'm also using googy kernel v2.0 TDI with it since I believe that gives me more battery but that is optional.
If you don't want to change your ROM. The other quick fix you can do is, get xposed framework with per app settings module from below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081
Make your launcher, phone and contacts app as always resident in memory. This will solve launcher redraws and slow opening of phone/contact app.
Once you done that, to kill off the lag install another app called greenify from market. This app will search for all other apps running persistently in background causing the lag. From the list of the app thus obtained, you can greenify the non-important ones i.e. it will make them exit as soon as you leave the app.
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HI
bloatware removal is only done on custom ROms by developers.. you cant do it when you are on stock firmware .you can use applikations to clean out rubbish from phone.. for example clean master (free)
or remove uneccessary programs from startup - use startup manager free app from market.
i will try also restore phone to factory defaults.. dont forget to backup whats important.
hope will help.
Something about Touchwiz (wether you use the launcher or not) makes the phone slow at times. I have found that mods and roms seldom fix ALL slowdowns. They always occur from time to time.
The only real solution I've found was moving to AOSP (CM in my case). You get a couple of bugs, but the lag is completely gone. A trade off sadly. Worth trying though.