Hello fellow developers. My question to you guys is why is the development for the incredible so dead. I had the droid bionic for almost 3 years and they were still developing ROMs for a while.
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foton92 said:
Hello fellow developers. My question to you guys is why is the development for the incredible so dead. I had the droid bionic for almost 3 years and they were still developing ROMs for a while.
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The Inc4G suffered from 6months without any boatloader unlock. Pair that with the general public moving to bigger screens, and there's both a lack of development and user base. When I purchased this phone, I had no intention of (or experience with) development. In a sense the small user base is good for a beginning developer, but I do feel bad that there are relatively few options for users wanting to play around with their phones. This late in the game, we won't see a significant increase in user base, so development will likewise be limited. The one plus you should notice is nearly all developers in this community are responsive to their users.
i second what mdmower said, i had no experience at all too, just was lucky to unlock bootloader, i am getting experience on this, anyone can develop if they want to, when lack of developers users become devs
mdmower said:
The Inc4G suffered from 6months without any boatloader unlock. Pair that with the general public moving to bigger screens, and there's both a lack of development and user base. When I purchased this phone, I had no intention of (or experience with) development. In a sense the small user base is good for a beginning developer, but I do feel bad that there are relatively few options for users wanting to play around with their phones. This late in the game, we won't see a significant increase in user base, so development will likewise be limited. The one plus you should notice is nearly all developers in this community are responsive to their users.
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Seriously thanks for bringing CM though. I've never used it before but I was getting frustrated using sense. Especially after buying my nexus 7 I don't know if I'll ever buy a non-nexus device again. Unless I can expect considerable development. Anyway, thanks.
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Seriously thanks for bringing CM though. I've never used it before but I was getting frustrated using sense. Especially after buying my nexus 7 I don't know if I'll ever buy a non-nexus device again. Unless I can expect considerable development. Anyway, thanks.
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Ditto that. I'm loving this phone, hope to have it for a while and keep it fresh.
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What's happened to Atrix forum, I see no more Android development for Motorola Atrix. is it depend to locking of bootloader by Motorola?
nejati said:
What's happened to Atrix forum, I see no more Android development for Motorola Atrix. is it depend to locking of bootloader by Motorola?
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What? You really have no idea what you are talking about do you? The devs are definitely still working on the Atrix, and you come across like you are questioning the devs and only an obnoxious person who wants and demands everything for free, without putting in any effort, will do that. No, our devs are still very much alive and kicking. They do have a life you know...
My bootloaders been unlocked for close to a year now...
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patience
You have to remember that these developers work from basically ground floor up, they are dependant on what is released from Motorola and Google, which is a whole lot of nothing on a good day. They also work on their own time without any real monetary support. We all have to just sit an enjoy our steak and stop worrying about what's for dessert.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/
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http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/
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*clap* its just another phone bro
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nejati said:
What's happened to Atrix forum, I see no more Android development for Motorola Atrix. is it depend to locking of bootloader by Motorola?
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You do realize that the bootloader was unlocked a long time ago right?...
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Are we getting trolled here or what the hell is going on? The Atrix has had continuous development from the first day of release until now and it is still going strong. We have a ton of roms to flash and awesome kernels. Just wait and watch when ICS comes out and this forum will be flooded with new **** for the Atrix.
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Just wait and watch when ICS comes out and this forum will be flooded with new **** for the Atrix.
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until then Google will release new Android version, maybe 5
Announce, maybe. But release? No.
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nejati said:
until then Google will release new Android version, maybe 5
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obvious troll is obvious. if you dislike the current state of the development for the atrix, go buy another phone. maybe an iphone. yearly releases of magical hardware and software.
Slowed, but not gone.
Atrix development has slowed somewhat, but it's still happening. One thing that I have noticed though, a significant number of people are shying away from xda and publishing developed ROMS on their personal websites.
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Atrix development has slowed somewhat, but it's still happening. One thing that I have noticed though, a significant number of people are shying away from xda and publishing developed ROMS on their personal websites.
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Probably because a lot more developers are getting tired of the increasing stream of BS that's flowing through the XDA forums (and it's not limited to the Atrix, either, not by a long shot). They probably figure that the increased exposure isn't worth all the crap they have to put up with.
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Probably because a lot more developers are getting tired of the increasing stream of BS that's flowing through the XDA forums (and it's not limited to the Atrix, either, not by a long shot). They probably figure that the increased exposure isn't worth all the crap they have to put up with.
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There's so many demanding people on here.
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It makes it hard for us as users as developers are constantly being asked by silly people to make the rom to thier specific taste and genuine issues or questions are lost in BS, if I hear another person whine about words with friends or some obscure apk they have to use, I am gonna scream lol.
Don't feed the trolls...
No more develop for Motorola because she is dead
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Al3xand3r# said:
No more develop for Motorola because she is dead
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Really? Mine looks pretty lively to me. Must be a zombie, I guess.
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Really? Mine looks pretty lively to me. Must be a zombie, I guess.
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+1 mines got more life than I do.
Funny that when my friend who owns an IPhone cannot believe all the fun I have customizing my phone and how much faster and lighter my phone feels, and don't get me started on all the blackberry folks who have to charge their phone twice a day and don't believe how long my phone lasts. The Atrix is a beast and I plan on rocking it for a long long time.
Gotta throw some love out to you guys. We don't have alot of developers but we got some good ones, and good members too. A couple weeks ago I was ready to cut my losses with the Flyer, but now I'm pretty content on keeping it. My phone on the other hand, the whole community has gone nuts, and declared mutiny against the mods lol. Nice to see we can all get along here and work to make this device better
nothing better like this, after a trip downhill with DG
i still like my Flyer and community will probably remain, just look at the Folio100 which started from nothing and they got pretty a 100% working ICS without even Toshiba helping, all because of XDA community and the support.
due to the different opinions of the mods, you will see one section where users get banned, another one where mods are promoting their devs, and a third pushing for gpl rules and another where they do not care. mods are just people, they can easily mess up the sections, but as long as its kept in other sections we are happy
im personally quite happy with our mods in this section
This is all for fun, I think sometimes people lose sight of it
Yeah no complaints about our mods. Honestly I dunno what's going on in the vivid section, I don't care to be part of it I know that. Thankfully its a good phone on stock because it's an all out war zone over there and pretty soon I'm certain development will cease as all the developers leave. I didn't make this thread to rat out anybody just saying it really puts our community in perspective
Really its the best xda forum I've been a part of. As nice as all the development on the captivate was it was almost overwhelming. You had probably 4 or 5 varieties of cm7 available, 2 or 3 ics roms in development, and a 100 modified stock roms. So you pretty much had to become a crack flasher to find out what was best for you and forget getting to know anyone.
We have a device that was a flop business wise and we were left for dead on a crappy honeycomb update. We all have our spats from time to time but everyone is pretty cool here and trys to help each other out to get the best flyer experience possible.
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Indeed! We're a small community but those tend to be the best!
Thanks to everyone, especially Cor-Master for posting this! Woke me up with a
\\Carved into this thread with my RAZR//
http://android-gz.com
Yeah. I believe in this.
Wishing us all great times ahead!
Hard to say considering there are more then 50 forums on xda.
Go take a look at the Tmobile G1 aka HTC Dream. Those of you that know that forum know what Im talking about.
The G1 had ICS before 95% of the phones
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It's not about the forum with the most roms im talking just great community in general which is what we have. And remember we're working blind with this device. My captivate benefited from sharing identical hardware with the Google flagship, we have the desire hd, one v, and well that's about it, not to mention no tablets that share the hardware so ics almost has to come from scratch. Not to mention my Captivate had entire teams of people working in ics roms. The stuff our few developers have accomplished is nothing short of incredible.
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Hard to say considering there are more then 50 forums on xda.
Go take a look at the Tmobile G1 aka HTC Dream. Those of you that know that forum know what Im talking about.
The G1 had ICS before 95% of the phones
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Ordinary people are countless. Special people are very few.
We are those special people.
You know...we have the best tablet out there. I have a Blackbery Playbook with os 2.1 and a viewsonic gtab with ics. And, I hate these tablets. Rarely use them.
I was wondering what do you guys think i should upgrade to I'm coming from the incredible 2 which had great dev support. I was gonna get the DNA because of the specs and i've played with it in the store and i loved it! But i'm worried there won't be many roms for it which is why i was thinking about getting the S3 instead.
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I would find it extremely surprising if this phone didn't have a decent dev community. People may not want to admit it, but this IS the phone to beat in Verizon's line up right now. Once S-Off is accomplished, things will pick up...IMO
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I would find it extremely surprising if this phone didn't have a decent dev community. People may not want to admit it, but this IS the phone to beat in Verizon's line up right now. Once S-Off is accomplished, things will pick up...IMO
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While I do completely agree with all of this........people said the exact same phrases about the Rezound......lol.
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While I do completely agree with all of this........people said the exact same phrases about the Rezound......lol.
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You're right on that but the Rezound came out around the same time as the Galaxy Nexus and all the devs flocked to the Gnex, thats why i think the rezound didn't get as much support as it should have.
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I used GS3. It can also be due to habit
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While I do completely agree with all of this........people said the exact same phrases about the Rezound......lol.
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The rezound had enuff developement for me personally, I enjoyed the roms that came out , ALL Quality roms from many devs, its just the community drove them away. I just hope the DNA xda community is respectful of its developers.
Respect...
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Just like the title says......I'm looking for a quadcore phone and for the price, can't really beat this but sadly to say, it's been released since November and have not seen very much action going on here.
Is the LG phone pretty much just the way it is?
Thank you,
Roderick
rgoyena said:
Just like the title says......I'm looking for a quadcore phone and for the price, can't really beat this but sadly to say, it's been released since November and have not seen very much action going on here.
Is the LG phone pretty much just the way it is?
Thank you,
Roderick
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We will have some stuff very soon. I hope before February, if not then, hopefully in Feb. There are people working on both CM10 and AOKP. The devs haven't had source so are sort of flying blind. They have mentioned they think source will drop soon.
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oh very nice......that's what I was thinking too maybe that the source was just not available at this point. Honestly, at this point, this phone is a monster and would love to see some development go on this. lol
In going to be honest..development sucks
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In going to be honest..development sucks
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If it sucks so bad then why don't you jump in if you could do better?
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drakeymcmb said:
In going to be honest..development sucks
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What more do you want, the devs don't want to spend to much time on building ICS ROMs when jelly Bean is right around the corner. Once the source drops expect things to pick up.
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I don't see why everyone is getting mad at the guy for saying it sucks because, compared to the other devices, it isn't getting much support. That's a fact. It sucks in the sense we don't have much support. It's awesome though that from the support this device DOES have, they seem to be really committed and knowledgeable and I truly believe this device is gonna have some awesome stuff in the coming months.
To the OP, it is getting better. When I first came here, devs were just working on getting the bootloader unlocked. And now we have quite a few ROMs and quite a few mods thanks to the awesome and devoted people in this section. This is still a brand new device and it's only getting better. Can't wait to see what the future has in store for this device!
I'm actually listing this on eBay to sale because I've tried my hand at bringing cm and without sources to go off of its extremely difficult. The phone itself has potential, but don't think it will get the support it deserves due to LG. I'm going back to Samsung and will live my days out there unfortunately.
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drakeymcmb said:
In going to be honest..development sucks
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As for that comment you should go give it a whirl I've spent last week working on a port package to bring 4.1 roms from n4 to this device but piecing together a kernel when that's not my forte is painful and ended in frustration...just ask my wife lol she didn't see my face much.
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jivy26 said:
I'm actually listing this on eBay to sale because I've tried my hand at bringing cm and without sources to go off of its extremely difficult. The phone itself has potential, but don't think it will get the support it deserves due to LG. I'm going back to Samsung and will live my days out there unfortunately.
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This....sold my OG and back on my S3. Inferior device....superior user experience. Kind of like the old school apple android days. By the time this thing gets any support, the S4 will be out and undoubtedly destroy the OG...
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jivy26 said:
As for that comment you should go give it a whirl I've spent last week working on a port package to bring 4.1 roms from n4 to this device but piecing together a kernel when that's not my forte is painful and ended in frustration...just ask my wife lol she didn't see my face much.
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Source is coming within the month most likely, and honestly I don't miss much from when I had JB on my old phone, but since we are getting JB soon anyways, and some of the devs have CM10 booting....
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I don't see why everyone is getting mad at the guy for saying it sucks because, compared to the other devices, it isn't getting much support. That's a fact. It sucks in the sense we don't have much support. It's awesome though that from the support this device DOES have, they seem to be really committed and knowledgeable and I truly believe this device is gonna have some awesome stuff in the coming months.
To the OP, it is getting better. When I first came here, devs were just working on getting the bootloader unlocked. And now we have quite a few ROMs and quite a few mods thanks to the awesome and devoted people in this section. This is still a brand new device and it's only getting better. Can't wait to see what the future has in store for this device!
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I think everyone is mad at LG for craptacular support of their device but taking it out on the poster because he is insinuating that the problem is with the developers. They are doing the best they can but only a very small handful of devs have the knowledge, time, and resources to overcome the obstacles in our way, again, because of LG. Once those roadblocks come down, then it will be much, much easier for the garden variety developer to customize and build ROM's for the LGOG, and things should take off.
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Development for this phone is non existent. Selling mine to a coworker.
Not the developers faults though. It's LG...and don't plan on buying anything from them again whether it's their TVs or phones. Just took 2 LG TVs back to the store that I bought for my office. I refuse to support a subpar company.
I just think it is insulting to the devs that are working on the device. And everyone thinks nothing is happening since the devs don't post their work here but on the irc Chanel. Is as of everyone expects a CM ROM to be available with in a week of the device dropping, even though we don't have kernel source.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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You east coast? I get free UPS shipping thru my business. PM me an offer. I won't cry losing this phone. It was the first S4 Pro phone... Now they're about to be a dime a dozen. I hope you guys end up with a wonderful development scene. However, it's LG, not any dev here.
I just can't believe all the negativity. Every new device takes time. I also don't miss JB at all. This device is faster than all the other ones I've had.
I also can't believe that there is another thread asking about development. There's a section for that. All you have to do is look there.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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I don't believe they are trying to talk bad about the great work this entire Dev community has done, but rather about LG. You guys have done a great job with what you were given. The OG components wise is a great product, but the fact that LG released it obviously will hinder its progress and potential. GL to you guys and I am sure you will release a great product with exceptional support unlike LG
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Now they're about to be a dime a dozen.
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Not anywhere near a $99 price point, but I agree. Would've waited but I can't afford an upgrade being in college, and I managed to get this phone for free.
Not to be pessimistic, but LG takes their sweet time releasing source. Coming from a G2X and 03D.
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So, I've been playing with the nexus4 for a couple months now. Having a device that's officially supported is nice, and there's definitely no shortage of aosp roms. I don't particularly miss sense, but what I do miss is this dev/user community.
The devs that remain here are incredibly patient and ridiculously helpful compared to what I've been dealing with in the n4 section.. The rootbox dev actually closed his thread because people were reporting bugs and asking for support with a flawed release. It was unbelievable to me. Then I found out that it's not uncommon for devs to release a Rom just to have their name on something..
So, from the perspective of "newer and better things", dev support makes a huuuuge difference in the user experience. Thank you to all the devs here for sticking it out and helping this community thrive. All the roms in the world couldn't make up for that. You are all truly invaluable to the android experience, and I hope the users here never take that for granted.
Thanks again,
Dan
P.S- I'm aware that I probably didn't need my own thread for this.. But I just had to pop that cherry .
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Helpful information to share, at least I think so. The lack of love the Rez has gotten from Big Red makes me leery about buying a third HTC phone(started with the Incredible). I am considering Nexus for the next purchase, or even seeing if the iPhone is all its cracked up to be! (blasphemy, I know). I do love the Devs that have stuck it out though. And it's good to hear from someone who's gone elsewhere...
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Its weird how different the forums are for different devices. Everyone is so chill on the galaxy nexus section but the nexus 4 section is really uptight.
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Its weird how different the forums are for different devices. Everyone is so chill on the galaxy nexus section but the nexus 4 section is really uptight.
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I agreed. Of all of the forums I've been a part of, this one is by far the most chill. Seems like the VZW GSIII forums can be really uptight sometimes, and the thunderbolt forums are just... Awful now. It's like anarchy there.
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This forum section is like the droid incredible one.....well considering most people on here came from the incredible its kind of expected. Everyone, for the most part, treats each other with respect and acts like a community
I can accept failure but I can't accept not trying.
+1 to that. Our devs rock