Sense 5 why and why not - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

This is dedicated to us phone freaks who love Android and flash till we can't flash anymore. Do you like sense 4 or 5 or just aosp? I'm running 5 and love it little to no issues. What have y'all experienced good or not so much. I know our device is up to get the update and can't wait. So in summary yea or nay sense 5
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It's not bad, but I like the tweaks in viper rom, and not interested in the one, so going to stick with viper...
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Sense5, I like the simplicity
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Yeah I like the sense 5 phone, photos, blinkfeed although it's a ripoff of flipboard. I wonder if we could us sense 5 as a base and viper on top of it? Hmmmmm
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At first I hated Sense 5, but it's grown on me. I still won't use it as a daily as there are still bugs, but look forward to it's official release.
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When bluetooth is added, I'm in. That's the only reason it's not my daily today

I have been a die-hard AOSP fan for quite a while. But, this sense 5 ROM has been on my phone for quite a while now,...I'm surprised. I kind of don't like the phone UI cuz it just seems awkward to navigate and see what you wanna see. I do like that HTC went back to vertical scroll in the app drawer. I hate when my desktop and drawer scroll the same way,..confuses me lol. I like the distinction.
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I have been a die-hard AOSP fan for quite a while. But, this sense 5 ROM has been on my phone for quite a while now,...I'm surprised. I kind of don't like the phone UI cuz it just seems awkward to navigate and see what you wanna see. I do like that HTC went back to vertical scroll in the app drawer. I hate when my desktop and drawer scroll the same way,..confuses me lol. I like the distinction.
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they have a sense 5 rom for the evo? where?

Keyz450 said:
they have a sense 5 rom for the evo? where?
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Search, if I can do it you can too
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Quite literally the only why not: Bluetooth is borked.

Majin101 said:
Search, if I can do it you can too
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i search before i post, didnt see no roms in android development and original, only sense 5 discussions, but that has 200+ pages...0_o
who makes this rom meanbean? viper? team dirt? etc?

Keyz450 said:
i search before i post, didnt see no roms in android development and original, only sense 5 discussions, but that has 200+ pages...0_o
who makes this rom meanbean? viper? team dirt? etc?
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Team dev alliance (devs came together and worked on it)
Also check your pm
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Tried sense 5 for a few days, then back to viper. I really like blinkfeed and the new widgets, but not enough customization options yet. Not a fan of the 3 button menu or app and folder names on my homescreen. There may be a way to disable them but havent found a way yet.

I actually really love the Sense 5 Rom, but I'm sticking to RootBox until they fix a few small issues (mainly the music duplication issue that annoys me beyond extent)
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jmcamz2899 said:
Tried sense 5 for a few days, then back to viper. I really like blinkfeed and the new widgets, but not enough customization options yet. Not a fan of the 3 button menu or app and folder names on my homescreen. There may be a way to disable them but havent found a way yet.
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3 dot menu?
Go to display and gestures and change it.
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Only Thing that kills it for me is the camera, i cant stand the fact that if i hold down the camera button too long and it goes to burst mode that t freeze and the fact that the gallery doubles all stored photos. They fix those two things and ill be all over it again

Honestly if Netflix were a go I would be too
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Netflix works for me
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does the sound work on Netflix for you?

Nay until camera burst mode, double images/music files, blue tooth, gps lock, and browser video sound get fixed

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[Q] Would YOU drop Sense 4 for a fully working stockish Jellybean ROM?

...or would you wait for the official HTC Sense Jellybean? -- which is WHO KNOWs when
Dropping Sense has been my first wish for every sense phone i've owned.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
I would stop everything I was doing and immediately flash that bad boy. Not a second thought.
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Not forever, but I'm not rooting until CM10 works.
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I can't wait until the AOKP or CM10 ROMS are available. I will install one of those and not think twice about it.
AOSP all day everyday! Screw Sense!!!!
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No. Or I would buy a nexus.
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No. Or I would buy a nexus.
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I had the galaxy nexus and got rid of it because it felt cheap.
Swype is starting to be a good alternative to the stock sense keyboard so I would gladly install AOSP JB
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erichj said:
I had the galaxy nexus and got rid of it because it felt cheap.
Swype is starting to be a good alternative to the stock sense keyboard so I would gladly install AOSP JB
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SwiftKey keyboard will blow your mind FYI if you've never tried it. Way better than either of the aforementioned keyboards.
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Um, YES.
Absolutely. didn't even have to think about it.
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I would flash the ROM to test it out. But I really love mean ROM!
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I'm a big fan of sense, but I would definately jump on a chance to try out jb. I like new and shiny things.
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durandetto said:
I'm a big fan of sense, but I would definately jump on a chance to try out jb. I like new and shiny things.
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I feel the same way!!
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As I love the camera software on this phone, I am not sure I would want to lose Sense camera
I ran Cyanogen on my OG Evo... but I have really come to appreciate much of what sense has to offer.
I think that between Car Mode, Camera App and Dialer (all of which I use every day) I could not stray away from sense for very long. I know that there are 3rd party apps that emulate what sense can do but they really aren't up to the level that sense is.
I would definitely flash it to check it out but I'm pretty sure I would return to sense in short order. I hope that the official HTC Jellybean / Sense combination will be as awesome as I think it can be.
Deck already has cm10 booting, so give it a week or two. Check the cm thread for the video.
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JinxDroid said:
I ran Cyanogen on my OG Evo... but I have really come to appreciate much of what sense has to offer.
I think that between Car Mode, Camera App and Dialer (all of which I use every day) I could not stray away from sense for very long. I know that there are 3rd party apps that emulate what sense can do but they really aren't up to the level that sense is.
I would definitely flash it to check it out but I'm pretty sure I would return to sense in short order. I hope that the official HTC Jellybean / Sense combination will be as awesome as I think it can be.
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What features of the dialer do you like? If it is the "T9" aspect of it, you can definitely get that elsewhere. If I'm not mistaken, CM7 had that before Sense did.
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Kujila said:
As I love the camera software on this phone, I am not sure I would want to lose Sense camera
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Totally agreed, I really love the camera software and the continuous shot mode. The camera aspects of the phone is what really sold me in getting this device.
PsiPhiDan said:
What features of the dialer do you like? If it is the "T9" aspect of it, you can definitely get that elsewhere. If I'm not mistaken, CM7 had that before Sense did.
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I definitely don't dislike CM... I just like the functionality of sense (beyond the widgets). I feel the dialer is just laid out better in sense - easier to navigate (for me). It is the lesser of all the things that I mentioned but something I noticed nonetheless.

htc one x update and Sense 4.1...

apparently the one x on att is getting update to android 4.0.4 which also has a fix in it to remove the bottom menu bar, the way rom developers have been doing. wounder if the evo will get the same thing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htcs-fix-menu-button-issue-welcome-not-very-elegant
More importantly..........IT FIXES MULTITASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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More importantly..........IT FIXES MULTITASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think you are confused about what is broken in multi tasking.
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Their fix for buttons is like what's on roms so my question is how many hrs do they spend surfing the net and how do I get that job
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Their fix for buttons is like what's on roms so my question is how many hrs do they spend surfing the net and how do I get that job
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+1
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Should of been like that in the first place but hopefully it comes to the evo lte soon.
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What else is funny, is how long did it take runandhide05, to make that mod?
We had that mod within the first couple of weeks didn't we?
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What else is funny, is how long did it take runandhide05, to make that mod?
We had that mod within the first couple of weeks didn't we?
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Yeah, if even that long. The funny thing is that the change is so simple (go find runandhides thread, he shows how he did it) that anyone that knows how to decompile/recompile an all can do it. Let alone HTC, it shouldn't have taken them this long.
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HTC is on a roll with the updates this week
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like the old windows phone commercials we are all just beta testers lol
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I think you are confused about what is broken in multi tasking.
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Try again. I think you may be confused. Read moar
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Rxpert said:
Try again. I think you may be confused. Read moar
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No I must agree. You may be mistaken about what is broken with multitasking on our phones. The One X fix removes the black menu bar at bottom of screen in some apps & moves recent apps to a long press of the button. Our multitasking problem is Sense not storing the state of apps once we switch from one to another so that when we do switch or multitask back to original opened app it has to completely restart. This fix does nothing to help that and I don't see HTC releasing one anytime soon seeing as that is how they intended it to work, so from their pov it is working properly.
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No I must agree. You may be mistaken about what is broken with multitasking on our phones. The One X fix removes the black menu bar at bottom of screen in some apps & moves recent apps to a long press of the button. Our multitasking problem is Sense not storing the state of apps once we switch from one to another so that when we do switch or multitask back to original opened app it has to completely restart. This fix does nothing to help that and I don't see HTC releasing one anytime soon seeing as that is how they intended it to work, so from their pov it is working properly.
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Thanks for that..What I was going to reply to him with would have been way to Katty and troll like... :good:
Have you guys even read the HTC ONE X update thread or did you just read the post the OP posted and see what it contained?
Go read the XDA thread please
I know it has nothing to do with the menu button. Its a RAM issue, and its being reported as being fixed by multiple users.. Go read the thread.
Being "Katty" gets "Katty" responses. Don't make assumptions about others' knowledge
Nothing in that android central article says anything about multitasking being fixed by this update..Now if you want to find those threads where people are reporting improvements then I will gladly read them.
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Nothing in that android central article says anything about multitasking being fixed by this update..Now if you want to find those threads where people are reporting improvements then I will gladly read them.
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I agree, nothing in the android central article says anything about it. I didnt reference that article. I referenced threads right here on the XDA website.
The discussion regarding multitasking is HTC's "memory optimization". That means the HOX boots with more ram available, not multitasking being what it should be - multitasking.
I really like this phone. I can deal with a moderate task killer. I don't use the phone like I do a computer. All I ask for is a level of multitasking where I can browse the web, change an album or two, send a message, and return to browsing the web - seamlessly. There is clearly enough ram, let us use it.
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Unfortunately HTC's current next generation smart phone's have been a big flop. I'm sure this update will make the current user base happy, but it will definitely not attract new users. HTC has been to slow with its updates to fix current problems and unfortunately it took me to install CM10 to finally use multitasking the way it was meant to be. Htc better fix their problems quickly or they'll be the next Nokia.
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celticking said:
The discussion regarding multitasking is HTC's "memory optimization". That means the HOX boots with more ram available, not multitasking being what it should be - multitasking.
I really like this phone. I can deal with a moderate task killer. I don't use the phone like I do a computer. All I ask for is a level of multitasking where I can browse the web, change an album or two, send a message, and return to browsing the web - seamlessly. There is clearly enough ram, let us use it.
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I knew I wasn't going crazy. My ram percentage was always under 25 percent. Something was very off about that. That's the same percentage my Evo 4g gave off with the same apps installed. Sometimes my Evo 4g was better. Smh. Multitasking won't be updated by HTC until October I bet
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About multitasking from what I just saw over there they are getting more free ram avail from get go but HTC still did not make it so apps won't reload but that was one persons account...someone on AP said it was completely fixed...so its hard to say so many people seem confused...
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Evo one mutli tasking

Is it just me who notices that the evo doesn't really multi task well? When ever I jump back to an app using the recent apps button the app reloads or refreshes. For example I'm playing a game, pause the game, shoot a few texts, check my email, come back to the game and it restarts. Bte I'm not rooted and have just installed the latest update. Thank you much.
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Give cm10 a spin...multi tasking is fantastic.
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gmugrad04 said:
Give cm10 a spin...multi tasking is fantastic.
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Oh I see. I like sense over aosp.. Any good choices on that? But I will give cm10 a go when I root my EVO.
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manaup said:
Oh I see. I like sense over aosp.. Any good choices on that? But I will give cm10 a go when I root my EVO.
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Can't speak for sense 4.1, but 4.0 butchered multi tasking. It greatly limits the amount of simultaneous processes running in the background. I could not go back to sense at this point.
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There are already a few threads about this, also from the Q&A sticky at the top of this very forum:
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Q: Multitasking does not work like in previous phones, why?
A: Pretty much the phone kills applications off relatively quickly. Most ROMs have addressed this issue and you should receive better multitasking while running them. If you do not want to run a ROM a fix some people found is to go into settings> developer options scroll to the bottom and select "At most 4 processes" under Background process limit.
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So no, there's no real fix for sense based ROMs. Most of the ROMs help alleviate this issue but none outright fix it. HTC also claims that this is their intended behavior and that there is no issue with multitasking, so don't expect an official fix from them.
AOSP or CM10 is your only current option.
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Racer Of All said:
There are already a few threads about this, also from the Q&A sticky at the top of this very forum:
So no, there's no real fix for sense based ROMs. Most of the ROMs help alleviate this issue but none outright fix it. HTC also claims that this is their intended behavior and that there is no issue with multitasking, so don't expect an official fix from them.
AOSP or CM10 is your only current option.
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Sounds like the developer option/fix will drain battery. Do you guys know if the sg3 multi-task better than the evo? I just picked up the phone and still experimenting on it. If all goes well ill keep the phone. So far I like everything. To me, the cons are battery and multitasking.
Otherwise everything else is great.
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Cons are the battery??? How so...... I easily get 2 days out of the battery and most of the time I'm roaming.
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Cons are the battery??? How so...... I easily get 2 days out of the battery and most of the time I'm roaming.
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The phone will outlive the battery. I've had my og evo for 2.5 years. The oem battery doesn't last more than 4 hours anymore. Thank goodness for the gorilla battery, it made my og evo last longer and feel new again. Otherwise I woulda jumped on the 3d or design. Glad I didn't.
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manaup said:
Sounds like the developer option/fix will drain battery. Do you guys know if the sg3 multi-task better than the evo? I just picked up the phone and still experimenting on it. If all goes well ill keep the phone. So far I like everything. To me, the cons are battery and multitasking.
Otherwise everything else is great.
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Its not really so much the phones ability to multi task as it is the software... as already stated, running cm10 multitasking is phenomenal however running sense 4 multitasking is terrible. Basically, the phone has the ability to multitask however HTC kinda screwed us on that on sense 4
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manaup said:
The phone will outlive the battery. I've had my og evo for 2.5 years. The oem battery doesn't last more than 4 hours anymore. Thank goodness for the gorilla battery, it made my og evo last longer and feel new again. Otherwise I woulda jumped on the 3d or design. Glad I didn't.
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You can easily open up the phone and swap the battery, they made is surprisingly easy to do too, so that's great.
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You can easily open up the phone and swap the battery, they made is surprisingly easy to do too, so that's great.
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Ah, I see. Maybe one of these days someone will come out with an extended battery XD
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manaup said:
Ah, I see. Maybe one of these days someone will come out with an extended battery XD
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No, I highly doubt that.
Theres no room for a bigger battery. You would have to replace like half the phone if you were to make some sort of extended battery cover.

Sense reloads on JB

I tend to listen to podcasts and use navigation a lot(I'm a driver) and im noticing more frequently since the update that sense will reload when backing out of Navigation. I also get it when backing out of memory intensive games too. The same games I use to play and the same navigation I've always used in ICS and not have this issue. Back in the day with Sense reloads you would see a "Loading" message and sense would come back. Now it's just a home screen with 0 widgets that eventually reappear.
What gives? I thought I'd be done with sense reloads by the 3rd product cycle. I know the whole manage your apps and use less home screens tips. The thing is I'm set up the same way I've always been set up, shouldn't have to change anything.
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Odd... I haven't had sense reload one time since the update. On ICS I had it happen a few times but it was rare. Runs smoother for me now. Are you stock?
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Odd... I haven't had sense reload one time since the update. On ICS I had it happen a few times but it was rare. Runs smoother for me now. Are you stock?
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im rooted running a stock rom
I have yet to see this issue using mean rom base. What stock base are you using?
Not to get flamed but did you update firmware?
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Not to get flamed but did you update firmware?
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Yeah i'm on updated firmware
and im running Vipers latest stock...Im going to run another rom and see what I get.
I'm on Stock rooted & I'm clear. Could be the ROM.
Sense reloads are painfully annoying.
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I'm on Stock rooted & I'm clear. Could be the ROM.
Sense reloads are painfully annoying.
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tell me about it..the lack of the loading messages makes me believe its something else.But it sure as hell resembled a sense reload..All widgets gone for a few seconds then start coming up..
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tell me about it..the lack of the loading messages makes me believe its something else.But it sure as hell resembled a sense reload..All widgets gone for a few seconds then start coming up..
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I used to get that on my old EPIC. Nothing on the screen and seconds later icons would populate. When I had sense reloads on ICS I always got the loading message. I think you should definitely try a different rom, as it seems no one else is getting it on JB. Goodluck dude, hope it gets better for you.
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I used to have a sense reload just about everytime I hit the home button on ICS. It was unbearable. Now that I have JB it rarely happens, and when it does it loads significantly faster. I'm stock btw. I used to be rooted, but went stock after testing out jellybean and sense 4+
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I've had it happen a few times using maps and street view. I'm on stock with goodies 3.25
I have also had this happen on stock w/ goodies.
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I have also had this happen on stock w/ goodies.
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Seems to only happen when I have navigation running and listening to music or a podcast. I did get it once when backing out of ingress.
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I've also had it happen a few times! VERY annoying! :banghead:
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HTC can't win. People ***** that sense reloads so they implement the most aggressive anti multitasking "bug" to fix it.
Now that they unbroke multitasking sense may reload more.
It works fine for me personally, but I un install, freeze, or refuse to run memory intensive things like face unlock, live wallpapers, and some stock HTC and Sprint junk
HTC can win.. Simply don't F### up and do dumb crap. If they want to continue with sense(which I enjoy) then make sure the device has proper resources.
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HTC Infobar

So I just randomly came across this on flipboard, I found the UI to be intriguing!!
Part of me isn't sure if the DNA would be able to run the software very well, at least not without a lot of work, and I have no coding experience. I, however, think it would be awesome to run this on the DNA. If there are any Devs out there that would be able to get ahold of the software and would be able to attempt cooking this for the DNA I would be very happy and excited to run this UI.
Here is a video of the UI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9FOAH7EDU
Thanks in advance!
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Is that Sense 5?
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Is that Sense 5?
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In the settings it says htc sense 4+.
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Definitely piqued my interest. Though without trying it myself is say it looks a little cluttered.
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It reminds me a lot of windows phone.
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It reminds me a lot of windows phone.
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I agree. With like a water ripple affect.
Looks kinda cool.
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Yeah, it is definitely Windows-espue on the middle screen, but more advanced (I can see how some might find it slightly cluttered, I like it though). The right screen seems very much like the Android UI, just flipped at 90° (vertical page scrolling vs. horizontal). I would be fine without the left sceen; I guess it would make finding certain things a little easier though.
I just wish/hope some of the awesome devs in the DNA community would be able to get ahold of this and make some magic!
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I like it does remind me of windows 8 but 10 times better I would like to see it up close and personal
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Looks sweet but from the video it seems "heavy"
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It seemed a bit sluggish to me
Posted from my Verizon Employee Edition DROID DNA #01749.
I find the warping animations a bit ugly, and have never been a fan of HTC's UI design in general. I would definitely prefer Windows Phone.
its not exactly HTC its more like a custom rom for a custom device....its KDDI Japan's custom UI (heavily modified sense rom), running on their device
4 seemed slow and choppy
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INFOBAR A02 app/framework dump
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runs good on the One XL
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runs good on the One XL
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^^I can confirm this :victory:
So it's like a modified version of sense like the mytouch was? Interesting.
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Any chance we'll see this for the DNA?
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This is incredible! I would love to see this on our phone! The only wish I knew how to port and make dev... All I know is how to follow tutorials
Looks pretty cool, Japan always gets the coolest things.
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