Phone upgrade but have unlimited data but? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Okay so I have 5 lines on my plan. Two unlimited data and 3 phones.
One of my lines with unlimited data has an upgrade but you cant upgrade or you have to change your plan and lose unlimited. So. Is it possible to give the upgrade to a non smart phone. Upgrade it. Put it back to basic phone. And switch it to my unlimited data line without losing unlimited.
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I got lucky enough a radio shack employee knew a way of upgrading my line with unlimited and still kept unlimited.
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bump. I'm in the same situation and do not know
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Verizon is suppose to allow upgrading on existing unlimited data plan and you can spread the fatal cost of the phone over 12 months. You pay more for the phone but the cushion is the monthly payments and you keep unlimited data.
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Bxrider117 said:
Verizon is suppose to allow upgrading on existing unlimited data plan and you can spread the fatal cost of the phone over 12 months. You pay more for the phone but the cushion is the monthly payments and you keep unlimited data.
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I have never heard this before, I paid full price for mine because I didnt want to lose unlimited data. When did this go into effect?
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shangrila500 said:
I have never heard this before, I paid full price for mine because I didnt want to lose unlimited data. When did this go into effect?
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I read it on Droid Life forum. I'm going to see if I can find the article.
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imablackhat said:
Okay so I have 5 lines on my plan. Two unlimited data and 3 phones.
One of my lines with unlimited data has an upgrade but you cant upgrade or you have to change your plan and lose unlimited. So. Is it possible to give the upgrade to a non smart phone. Upgrade it. Put it back to basic phone. And switch it to my unlimited data line without losing unlimited.
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Yes you can. I've done it twice already. Make sure you get the phone from a vendor that does not charge you if you transfer the device from the original activated line. Best Buy & Radio Shack will not penalize you. Amazon will.
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imablackhat said:
Okay so I have 5 lines on my plan. Two unlimited data and 3 phones.
One of my lines with unlimited data has an upgrade but you cant upgrade or you have to change your plan and lose unlimited. So. Is it possible to give the upgrade to a non smart phone. Upgrade it. Put it back to basic phone. And switch it to my unlimited data line without losing unlimited.
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Yes, this is possible. I have done this multiple times, just make sure they know exactly what you want done.

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I read it on Droid Life forum. I'm going to see if I can find the article.
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Awesome, from what I reqd the only thing that could be a problem is that you may have to be in a contract to be eligible for it, its still an unknown at this point thought.
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Here's what I did to keep unlimited data.
I got the phone from vzw.com using my wifes upgrade. After I received the phone I went to vzw.com and transfered it to my line. both lines still have unlimited data.

Use the upgrade to upgrade someone elses phone. Swap the new phone to your line and reactivate the old phone on the spare line you just upgraded. Done.

Lodingi said:
Yes you can. I've done it twice already. Make sure you get the phone from a vendor that does not charge you if you transfer the device from the original activated line. Best Buy & Radio Shack will not penalize you. Amazon will.
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funny that you mention that amazon does that...since they didnt do it to me. i signed up for a new line...bought a gnex...sold said gnex to a friend...put a dummy phone on the line...no extra charges. it has been a year now.

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funny that you mention that amazon does that...since they didnt do it to me. i signed up for a new line...bought a gnex...sold said gnex to a friend...put a dummy phone on the line...no extra charges. it has been a year now.
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Ahh. I was told you had to keep it on the activated line for 180 days to avoid penalty. I appreciate the correction.
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Pretty sure you just need to keep the line open from what I've seen.
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Family Plans will be forced to use new data share plans?

Before everyone flips out on me... give me a second. So I told my dad he was going to lose his unlimited data if he didn't upgrade his phone by today. Which of course he ends up waiting until today to do. Come to find out that he had to upgrade before today in order to keep his unlimited data. We are on a family share plan and only me and my dad have unlimited data, but my brother and sister, who are also on it, have the 2GB data cap.
So I told him to try to transfer his upgrade to one of them and get the subsidized price and just upgrade it on his line. So he tries to pre-order the SGSIII on my brother's line and this pops up.
"The existing plan Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000, is not compatible with the new device." So it either chooses new individual plan or new share voice and data plan.
What's confusing though is that under smartphone data packages, it doesn't have the new family data plan pricing. It still has 2 GB for $30, 5GB for $50, and 10GB for $80 and under plan shares summary on the left side where the totals are, it does say "Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000". So I'm confused as F*CK right now and I want my dad to keep his unlimited for at least another 2 years, but I also don't want to lose mine and get screwed over with this new family data share plan. Not to mention that fact that I'm not sure whether they are actually forcing us into this new data share plan or not.
Thoughts? Can anyone who has a family plan with an upgrade vouch?
There is no more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones. You have to purchase the phone out right to keep unlimited now. No upgrading from 3G to 4G and keeping unlimited either I believe.
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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mjones73 said:
Sorry, only way to keep unlimited now is to buy the phone out right. No more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones.
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Sigh... Right over your head
antp121 said:
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Sigh... Right over your head
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I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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mjones73 said:
I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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Not to mention the fact that the same exact plan still pops up that says wasn't compatible with the device.
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graymonkey44 said:
You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Where in the thread title does it say anything about unlimited data? It has to do with the new family plans. Antp understood what I was trying to say. Also keep the personal attacks out of here. I don't want this thread closed because I would actually like an answer.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
prdog1 said:
I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Also, I would like to add that if the family data share plans aren't forced there should be no reason why an unlimited data line couldn't transfer their upgrade to a 2 GB plan. Have that person upgrade and upgrade the line on the unlimited person's line. Herego unlimited data being kept with an unsubsidized Price.
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prdog1 said:
I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
Ndaoud360 said:
Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Battery life man. The S4 processor is a beast. Many reviewers said the thing is damn hard to.kill in a day under normal use.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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So you decided to go for it too.
I pre-ordered mine back when we where talking on the mik.
I don't even really want the thing, I absolutely LOVE my rezounds but I figured I might as well grab the last subsidized phone available.
Op simple fix. If it isn't broken don't fix it! People really need to stop buying new phones. If you have unlimited, on any plan/network/phone please don't upgrade.
And I also agree with the screen being way to big and hassle.
Not to be off point here... But my HTCG2 ....grandfather'd from G1...to G2(HSPDA+)....2yrs still running...Running (ROOTED) ROM PORTED ISC4.4 my 4g speed is fast (check my post's for non believers) for proof of batt stats but I get close too 2days on normal usage...point is They didn't do an upgrade to the G2(*GOOGLE DEV PHONE) yet... and ur dad wants an S3? ....third one already and they keep making them to get ppl to *Want* to upgrade to get the better contracts out the way. Advice would be if you like the phone you have and are satisfied don't take any chance in 2012....(sry long)
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Well everyone's completely missing the point of my post. I'm trying to figure out if Verizon is indeed trying to force us into these new data share plans if you're on a family plan.

Bye, Bye Note :(

Sadly today I got rid of my beloved Note. before my trial period expired I made the decision to cut ties with it. not because it was a bad phone but because of 2 issues. 1) the high price of AT&T phone service and the lack of unlimited data plan. I came from sprint 13 days ago and could not stand looking at my data usage and my first bill scare me. so I returned back to Sprint with my new S3. Love the service on AT&T. I think is the best so far. but not at a cost AT&T want it. so,,, good bye Note!!! :crying::crying:. one more thing,,,,, THANK YOU ALL AT THE NOTE FORUM FOR YOUR SUPPORT AT ROOTING,UNROOTING AND ROM FLASHING YOU ARE THE BEST AT THIS COMMUNITY XDA-DEVELOPERS ROCK!!!!!!
understandable...hate to see you leave but it is pricey. I, too, pay about 45 dollars more a month for att but I couldnt stand sprints service in my area. the trade off for me is worth it for now. plus, i love my note. it IS the main reason I came to att. be cool man. youll be missed...
Me too men. The Note was the reason I switch to AT&T. But I'll be watching for the Note2!!!!
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Thank god I have grandfather unlimited plan. Even though they cap the speed, at least I don't have to worry about overage. Sprint Sucks where I live.
I am sure you will be happy with S3.
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So far AT&T is the best network. I tryed Cingular,Sprint,AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon. Here the best in order in my opinion are AT&T and Sprint. I tried Verizon but lost Data connection at home!!! So after 2 days I canceled my contact.
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mutantblack said:
Thank god I have grandfather unlimited plan. Even though they cap the speed, at least I don't have to worry about overage. Sprint Sucks where I live.
I am sure you will be happy with S3.
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+1. They'll have to pry my unlimited data from my cold dead hands before I leave and switch to another carrier.
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I love in NYC and I must say T-Mobile is the way to go here. Good prices and signal and one seriously doesn't need more than 2gb because one can find free wifi anywhere here.
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I love in NYC and I must say T-Mobile is the way to go here. Good prices and signal and one seriously doesn't need more than 2gb because one can find free wifi anywhere here.
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I was told in NYC they are turning all the old payphones into wifi hotspots. I was wondering if there is any truth to that or if that already happened? If that is the case you would never need to have a data plan.
Certainly understand. I spent years w/Sprint (not always enjoyable) BUT switched to AT&T when I got the iPhone3g when it came out.
I'd love to try Sprint again...maybe they will get a Note.
HAVE FUN with the S3 (even though it is tiny).
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I was told in NYC they are turning all the old payphones into wifi hotspots. I was wondering if there is any truth to that or if that already happened? If that is the case you would never need to have a data plan.
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I never heard of such thing but that would be awesome. Now if they intend to that I'm sure there would be some type of paying plan that would be needed from whatever company that plans to carry this out
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Should had kept the note and get the t mobile plan I pay 70 bucks unlimited everything well 5gbs of 4g
Yes if I didn't have my old cheap unlimited data plan I don't know what I would do as long as I have it, it would be hard to switch
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I pay $80 Unlimited everything on AT$T
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I pay $67.76 every month for my Note.
3 gb of data I only use half of
450 minutes I only use about 300 of
no texting plan since I use Google voice and text messages use data that way
And I get 20% off my minutes with a discount through my employer (Red Lobster).
Not a bad deal.
Straight Talk's $45 Unlimited Plan works well for us and it uses AT&T towers here. I use it on my Note. We use them for hot spots and haven't had any problems there either.
nice note 2
39 for my bill but I'm sure the sprint sgs3 group will be great ' not as good as us though
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Damn!!!!, and now you tell me!!!!
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sholsten said:
Straight Talk's $45 Unlimited Plan works well for us and it uses AT&T towers here. I use it on my Note. We use them for hot spots and haven't had any problems there either.
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Damn!!!!, and now you tell me!!!!
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Sounds like OP issues isn't anything with the note as much as ATT which I can understand. I like it for my family as I have been with the big 3 and they each have their hidden features to get your money. Good luck!
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Data

Looks like Verizon finally took my prepaid unlimited data away. Would use the 1 gb they gave me but if your rooted and use an app for tethering it appears to be the only work around. Just their way of trying to suck the money from us poor folks.
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Can you be more specific? What did you do to loose unlimited?
^^ Right because they can't just take it away out of nowhere. Did you upgrade or change your plan in anyway?
Were you on a contract? If not, taking it away abruptly could be well within Verzon's rights (sadly). Between payment times they could just be like "well, we're done with this tough ****". I truly hate that. Not a lick of obligation to the customer on their part.
Nope. I paid for the X2 straight out for prepaid and I haven't changed anything to my plan. Instead of unlimited data now I get 1gb.
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Maybe it just depends on the phone you traded for. A prepaid phone, I believe, wouldn't get the unlimited data plan. I could be wrong though.
I'm not really sure what the prepaid plans offer.
If you previously had unlimited data and made no changes to your plan, they will allow you to keep you current plan and be "grandfathered in."
Throwing the word "prepaid" into the equasion makes me wonder if there is more to it.
I took a phone, not on my line or belonging to me, and had it activated on my account. I still have my unlimited data. The phone was actually an upgraded phone from my wife's account. She took my X2 and I took the Gnex.
If you changed your plan in any way, that will definietly cause you to loose your unlimited data.
I haven't change anything since I bought the phone last year. Same plan and all.
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where are you seeing the change
verizonwireless.com, your paper bill.....
Through the myverizon app
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I would go in thw store and talk to them the people ine person are korw apt to help.
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Issue with Google now sample cards

I just upgraded to sgn2 and lost my unlimited data. I'm so sick about it. What sucks is that when you upgrade and plan switches over to the 2gb plan, you will be billed for your data usage over your new 2gb limit. So I biggie sized my data plan for an additional $40 to avoid having to pay $90 on my bill date for my exceeding data usage (11gb).
So in my frustration I went on searching for Internet and decided to use clear which sucks balls in my side of this huge apt complex. But I haven't used my Verizon 4g lte yet b/c I'm over my limit so I've been on wifi using my clear wireless wifi hot spot. And Google now sample cards dont load while on wifi. It indicates that its loading but never loads. Do I need to be on 4g? Samsung definitely needs to release some updates in the near future. Anyone else having this problem?
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My cards work fine on 3G, 4G, and WiFi.
My cards work fine on WiFi too.
I'd return the phone withing your 14 day cancel period. 11gb... wow... The amount you are paying monthly on the biggie sized plan is enough saved to buy the phone outright after a few months and keep unlimited.
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Yea I know. It's too late to try and get that plan back with returning the phone . The plan is switched over already . But I can return it for another unit . I'll probably exchange it for it may be something wrong with it internally.
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After you enable Google Now it needs time to learn before it shows you cards. When I first enabled it it appeared to do nothing but checking back later it's starting to show cards such as temperature, etc. Also, update Google Now by updating Google Search.
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After you enable Google Now it needs time to learn before it shows you cards. When I first enabled it it appeared to do nothing but checking back later it's starting to show cards such as temperature, etc. Also, update Google Now by updating Google Search.
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Yea it's been 3 days. I've updated and all I get is temperature and that takes like 3-4 minutes to kick in.
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Okay I see what you're saying I'm getting distance and traffic card now since I been driving
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I work for Verizon. You have 14 days to return the phone and rewind your upgrade and plan to original
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I work for Verizon. You have 14 days to return the phone and rewind your upgrade and plan to original
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They told me I couldn't even the customer service rep at the 800 number told me I couldn't once the plan switched. Because that old plan doesn't show in the system to revert. If they're wrong please let me know.
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I work for Verizon. You have 14 days to return the phone and rewind your upgrade and plan to original
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I called customer service and they told me the same thing as the sales reps told me. That they can't do it and that that old plan doesn't show up. If you can enlighten me montyf please do. I would like to reverse and revert the plan to the original and bill the device at full retail to my phone bill. If there's any way you can help me please do. Ask around and keep me posted. Thanks.
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You probably won't be able to do it at a store, and you'll have to call them up and perhaps speak with one of their managers who can make it happen. Just don't take no for an answer.
Well I went back to the store and another csr helped me. I returned my upgrade, she reversed my plan back to the unlimited and charged the device at full retail back to my account bill. WINNING!!!!
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[Q] Can I unlock this phone and use it on AT&T without being charged?

Looking for a new phone and I can't switch from AT&T at the moment, so I want to know if I can use this on AT&T without being charged for data. Like is it non detectable as a smartphone for them.
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Looking for a new phone and I can't switch from AT&T at the moment, so I want to know if I can use this on AT&T without being charged for data. Like is it non detectable as a smartphone for them.
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Yes this phone is unlocked... If you use data you will get charged
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Looking for a new phone and I can't switch from AT&T at the moment, so I want to know if I can use this on AT&T without being charged for data. Like is it non detectable as a smartphone for them.
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If ATT works like they used to, you should be able to get away with using the DNA on their dumb phone data plan. Back in the unlimited days they had a $10/mo. plan that you could stick any unlocked phone onto and they wouldn't figure it out by the IMEI alone.
Are you looking to get a cheap data plan from ATT, or no data plan at all?
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If ATT works like they used to, you should be able to get away with using the DNA on their dumb phone data plan. Back in the unlimited days they had a $10/mo. plan that you could stick any unlocked phone onto and they wouldn't figure it out by the IMEI alone.
Are you looking to get a cheap data plan from ATT, or no data plan at all?
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Looking for no data charge
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Looking for no data charge
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No.
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Looking for no data charge
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Lol? Aren't we all.
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Lol? Aren't we all.
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exactly.... +11111111111
Good luck finding a free data plan. I've been paying for data since 2005. Back when T-mobile's unlimited data was 5.99. Ah the good old days lol
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Good luck finding a free data plan. I've been paying for data since 2005. Back when T-mobile's unlimited data was 5.99. Ah the good old days lol
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I'm not trying to find a free data plan, I want to use a smartphone on AT&T without being charged for data. They auto charge you if you use a smartphone. I just want to use one and not have data at all.
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I'm not trying to find a free data plan, I want to use a smartphone on AT&T without being charged for data. They auto charge you if you use a smartphone. I just want to use one and not have data at all.
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I wondered if this was what you were asking. You should be able to do it, call ATT to change the IMEI you're using and tell them it's an unlocked flip phone. Ask them to block data on the line so you won't get a per-MB charge, and you should be good to go. This is definitely the way it used to work; they may have changed things since then but I doubt it. You'll still be able to use Wi-Fi, of course.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
thats weird...i was sure that all carriers had the all phones that were compatible with the service in the system. if it doesn't add it, thats pretty nice.... although, whats the point of walking around with a 5 inch phone that cant use the internet outside of wifi? hmm....
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thats weird...i was sure that all carriers had the all phones that were compatible with the service in the system. if it doesn't add it, thats pretty nice.... although, whats the point of walking around with a 5 inch phone that cant use the internet outside of wifi? hmm....
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People used to think that years ago, but it certainly wasn't the case then. I used a number of different unlocked smartphones on ATT s dumbphone data plan.
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People used to think that years ago, but it certainly wasn't the case then. I used a number of different unlocked smartphones on ATT s dumbphone data plan.
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in that case, gl to the op with that!
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I'm not trying to find a free data plan, I want to use a smartphone on AT&T without being charged for data. They auto charge you if you use a smartphone. I just want to use one and not have data at all.
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My apologies, I guess I misinterpreted your question. As far as I remember from the old days, I was able to select a dumb phone on the website and then change my plan there. Although I did not take off data, I simply used it to get the dumbphone data. There was an option to take data off completely. Now I must say that this was done on T-Mobile's website back in the day (2007ish). I'm not sure if you can select a dumbphone on AT&T's website as your current phone and whether or not it will stick once your actual phone connects to their network. Something to try. It did work for me on T-Mobile back then.
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I had a friend who got a blackberry and as soon as they put the sim in, they got charged the smartphone rate for their plan
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Looking for no data charge
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Means not being charged.. Right?
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Yea he doesn't want data at all. But having a smartphone you have to pay for data even if you don't use it. So basically why pay if you don't use it.
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Yea he doesn't want data at all. But having a smartphone you have to pay for data even if you don't use it. So basically why pay if you don't use it.
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Oooo ok I c now lol
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It comes GSM unlocked just change your apn settings.
You can Google the settings or use the app tweaker to change your settings. AT&T's 4G LTE is compatible with the droid DNA
baronmxc said:
Yea he doesn't want data at all. But having a smartphone you have to pay for data even if you don't use it. So basically why pay if you don't use it.
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It's not that I don't, or won't use data, because I'd use it all the time, it's just AT&T's prices are too high for the small amounts of data.

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