Hey there you awesome developers.
I am just after a new rom which is stable and fairly fast but with good battery life.
I am currently on the official Three UK 4.03 rom and frankly.. it sux the big one.
The battery life is just absolutely terrible and it is also starting to become a little buggy in the last few days.
I have also had bluetooth connection problems to my work car since upgrading to ICS.
Any ideas or good suggestions for a rom that you can recommend??
Cheers people and major props for an awesome forum, just awesome.
There is no such thing as the "fast but stable rom with good battery life". You have your phone setup differently to everyone else, you use your phone differently to everyone else and your phone came out of the factory slightly differently to everyone else's.
A rom that runs well for me might not run well for you.
I suggest you go the development sections of the forum & read the first few pages and the the last 10-20 pages of the particular threads devoted to different roms. That way you will get an idea of the features/pluses/minuses of each rom, and also see other users' experiences with that rom.
Given how quick/simple it is to flash roms & backup/restore in CWM there is no excuse for you not trying out a bunch of roms for yourself. Tipping this thread is closed within an hour.
MistahBungle said:
There is no such thing as the "fast but stable rom with good battery life". You have your phone setup differently to everyone else, you use your phone differently to everyone else and your phone came out of the factory slightly differently to everyone else's.
A rom that runs well for me might not run well for you.
I suggest you go the development sections of the forum & read the first few pages and the the last 10-20 pages of the particular threads devoted to different roms. That way you will get an idea of the features/pluses/minuses of each rom, and also see other users' experiences with that rom.
Given how quick/simple it is to flash roms & backup/restore in CWM there is no excuse for you not trying out a bunch of roms for yourself. Tipping this thread is closed within an hour.
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This is sound advice.
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Before to make this a debate. I must say that this is all my personal opinions.
I wish you all to know that I have probably flashed all kinds of roms, SEEKING to find some kind of PERFECT rom, but you all know that we as humans will never get and accept something that is perfect, as perfect. (just love be4 she dumps you xD)
So continuing with this thread, I wish to share my experiences with you ALL <3 and hopefully answer all of your questions.
Stock CM9 KERNEL/ROM
Pros: The best one i have tried with almost never changing Battery life, I love it and always return to this bad guy after a bunch of roms with bad battery life. You must get this!
Cons: Little to none customization when it comes to governors.
Siyah x
Pros: considered as the best kernel for almost 78% of the XDA(not really, hehe), they like this because of the multiple governors and for being one of the best kernels with cero problems, always updating. Apart from it, it also supports 2nd rom in recovery, so its perfect.
Cons: as all other kernels, in order to get best battery life, you need to tweak them, change voltages, and it takes time, without changing anything from this kernel, the battery life goes to 90% from 100% with only 4 minutes.
Other kernels
Pros: you get to try new kernels...Woohooo!!!
Cons:just not as good as siyah kernels without customizing them.
So I hope you find this as a little entertainment for both, me and you, with love, bye!....
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
How about a new comparison?
This thread VS this comment
This thread
PROS -
•Something to pass my time
•Keeps a mod busy when they come along and close it
CONS -
•Threads of this kind aren't allowed on XDA because a simple debate can easily get out of hand
•It's a pointless thread and wastes peoples time
This comment
PROS -
•It passes time
•It's kinda funny
•Makes me seem like an arse
CONS -
•None
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
awww
Jokesy said:
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
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It really was a nice topic... just letting people know how wonderful stock cm9 is.
Sorry if it didnt make any sense for you :/
Well I like rootbox with fluxi kernel.
Pros-I like it,nothing else matters
Cons-None
Lol
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Ahhh... I dont have anything to say... But debate usually results in a fight...
Peace
Hit Thanks & It will Disappear
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Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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PM sent my friend
I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Canguy247 said:
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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pm sent
Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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thanks bro
Really now said:
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
2$HAYNE
I'm going to flash helly right now.
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So I'm giving my note i717 to my niece who just destroyed her s2 skyrocket. I just picked up a note 3 on launch day. Since I have been out of the loop and already spent well over an hour browsing threads I figured I should ask for some help. What is everyone go to rom. would like to give her a 4.3 rom but not sure how development has gone lately. Just need stable and best battery life. my old favorites where carbon 4.2 and the only 4.3 was the 8-14 cm 10.2 or something like that. I really appreciate it and I know these questions are sometimes frowned upon. I also remember the stock att rom being complete garbage.I appreciate it so much!!:good:
by ROM I also mean a really good date. Not all bids are equal or w/e eg:cm10.2 8-14
I prefer stock based like Padawan and Blackjelly. But the most stable 4.3 for me is Slimbean. Its light weight and blacked out which means good battery life.
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Yes I remember slim bean baing extremely ..... slim=) Thanks for your response.
I have had very good success with Hellybean also, but Profresh is probably right.
4.3 have come quite a ways in a short time and are much better and more reliable than 4.2. question though, and this leads to why Profresh has made a wise suggestion. is it your intention to sort of monitor the progress of the Note after you give it away?
even though 4.3 is very good, there is still work continuing in a feverish pace. updates galore. good for most folks like us. but is your neice going to come over every week or so, so you can update her phone?
Black Jelly and Padawan are both super solid. requiring little to no maintenance. perfect for the teenager on the go.
just something to think about
XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
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EFM
Have a great day!
Hi there,
I have a i717. For the past several months, I had been running CM 10 stable build (10.1.3 I believe), but found it to be anything but stable...Lots of random reboots, screen no always very responsive on attempted wake...It got bad enough that I went back to my previous ROM, waaay back to FlapJaxx's Build 12. FJ's ROM is incredibly stable, always has been and I'm very tempted to just roll with this until my contract is up...but at the same time, this is Android version 4.0.4 so it makes me feel a bit old fashioned.
It seems much of the community here has moved onto other phones, so my options may be limited...but anyone got a shout out for a good STABLE ROM?
Besides the rock solid stability of FlapJaxx, I am also generally impressed with the battery life (on CM 10 it was pretty awful), and IMHO BLN is superior to Dynamic Notifications...
Now I am pretty sure that my reliance on BLN will limit my options, but I'm just curious what other options folks here might recommend.
Thanks in Advance.
If you want stable, stick with the stock 4.1.2 version. Or any stock version for that matter.
No one will be able to tell you what custom rom is stable but you. Not all devices will perform the same for 2 different people. What suits one person might not perform the same for another. Xda recommends you try all the custom roms and see what works best for you.
Thanks, clearly I've been out of the loop didn't even realize there was a stock JB update on the phone...I'll blame my kids
As near I can tell, if I want a rooted/de-bloated stock MD3 experience I'm looking at Padawan or Blackstar?
Since these use stock kernel, will BLN work or if I absolutely must have BLN working am I stuck with a 4.0.4 kernel?
Thanks again...
440bro said:
If you want stable, stick with the stock 4.1.2 version. Or any stock version for that matter.
No one will be able to tell you what custom rom is stable but you. Not all devices will perform the same for 2 different people. What suits one person might not perform the same for another. Xda recommends you try all the custom roms and see what works best for you.
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XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
EFM
Have a great day!