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Hello everyone,
I did a little research before opening new thread,but I couldn't find anything simiral to my question.
So,my question now!I am planning to buy an Android Device.And yes like most of the people I am in a dilemma.Now before you hasten to answer my question let me explain this : I am not looking for an answer according to hardware specs or any kind of benchmarks.What I am looking for is the following :
I really like the stock look of the ICS(yes the one that Galaxy Nexus has).So I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Touchwiz from Galaxy SGSIII.After a small Google research that I did it seems that a user is not able to get rid of Touchwiz unless it replace it with another Launcher like the Launcher Pro.So what I found out that the only way to do this is to flash the phone with a custom rom,which will not contain any OEM launchers or any other third party launchers.To make this clear once and for all I am not lloking any kind of launcher that will make SGS III look like Galaxy Nexus's stock launcher,I am looking only for the stock launcher only.
So I was wondering if there is any custom rom to get rid of touchwiz and leave all the other goodies that Samsung has included like the Smart-Stay(the one that tracks your eyes in order to keep the screen on),All share,etc,... in SGS III or the only way is to buy the Nexus?
If you buy the SIII you can simply install Nova Launcher or Apex Launcher (Both available in the Play Store).
Both those launchers look exactly like the one found on the Galaxy Nexus, just with more options for customization.
Installing the launcher will hide the Touchwiz Launcher, but leave other parts of Touchwiz/Samsung software intact (Such as the smart-stay feature, S Voice, etc.).
Okay I have two questions.First,is it possible with these two launchers to have the three buttons(back button,home button and the multitask button) like the Nexus has?(Yes I know that the SGS III has the same three dedicated buttons,but I really love those three Nexus buttons)Second,are this launchers consume too much Ram or they will work without lags like touchwiz?
Okay,I know that I am not allowed to do this,but I am posting this to give to my thread a little push.Yes I know I am not the only memebr in this forum and there are 4 milllion other members.
use the search button maybe some devs at the s3 forum made one already
dude people did compare these two phones many times already.
and... unless you are a higher ranked, people most likely avoid you.
the s3 is sexy, big and yes i had hands on. Gnex is also sexy and yes i had hands on. The s3 is a little more advance so it gets a plus, but the galaxy nexus would be my choice because i look in the long run. Gnex gets updates first and its google's flagship phone as iphone is to apple.
Gnexs are coming next week preloaded with jelly bean while some people dont have ics yet. If you are like some people who can afford to buy a new phone every month then get the s3, but if you plan to go the two years get gnex
So the S2 is out of the question? The S2 probably has more custom rom than both put together (or it would at lease be close )
Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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don't turn this thread into a best rom one
A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Pedro80 said:
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
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Hey everyone, just got my htc one and I'm loving it. I plan on rooting soon and I want to try some ROMs but I don't know where to start. I'm coming from a galaxy s4 running hyperdrive. I really didn't like touchwiz, but cyanogen lacked a little too much galaxy s4 specific support for me. So far I like sense a lot better so I would like to try some sense based ROMs but like I said, I don't really know where to start (this is my first htc). Any recommendations for sense based ROMs that have great performance and feature tweaks?
thecrunked said:
Hey everyone, just got my htc one and I'm loving it. I plan on rooting soon and I want to try some ROMs but I don't know where to start. I'm coming from a galaxy s4 running hyperdrive. I really didn't like touchwiz, but cyanogen lacked a little too much galaxy s4 specific support for me. So far I like sense a lot better so I would like to try some sense based ROMs but like I said, I don't really know where to start (this is my first htc). Any recommendations for sense based ROMs that have great performance and feature tweaks?
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I'm using SkyFall deodex. I came from Galaxy S3, really enjoying this phone. Not a lot of feature tweaks just yet but you can install Xposed Framework and get a lot of mods, check out Gravity Box and Sense 6 Toolbox. I know that a popular S3 developer is working on a new rom and he's pretty legit. SkyFall is stable, fast, and good battery life for me, but that's just my 2 cents.
thecrunked said:
Hey everyone, just got my htc one and I'm loving it. I plan on rooting soon and I want to try some ROMs but I don't know where to start. I'm coming from a galaxy s4 running hyperdrive. I really didn't like touchwiz, but cyanogen lacked a little too much galaxy s4 specific support for me. So far I like sense a lot better so I would like to try some sense based ROMs but like I said, I don't really know where to start (this is my first htc). Any recommendations for sense based ROMs that have great performance and feature tweaks?
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I'm using ViperOne. Once you try it, you'll never want to flash another ROM again! It's sense based, and had more tweakable things than I've seen in any other ROM.
http://www.doperoms.com/roms/nintendo_ds/Pokemon Diamond.zip.html/623024/Pokemon Diamond.html
I think this is the best Roms.
yet I'm not sure where I can find the best rom!
currently I got a unlocked i9300 running a stock i9300XXEMD2 rom on 4.1.2 with a UK "3.co" on the power up and shutdown on the device
thing is I really like the look of this older sammy stock rom! I don't want to flash to those strange newer "white" verisons. I enjoy the look of the black and using old youtube and maps
yet I know there are better custom roms the clear the bloat. I'm looking for one that retains the look and feel of the galaxy s3 when it came out but is more uptodate, has a callrecorder built into secphone (when I install its not working) and overall improves ram use/user preformence, battery etc.
can someone point me in a good direction? there is so much available and hard to sort thru
Neat ROM is probably your best bet. Remember not Neat ROM AOSP. Its the one that its download size is about 1GB.
It is based on the latest stock ROM for S3 which is Android 4.3 and has new features integrated into the ROM (Quad multiwindow , smart features etc from newer Galaxy S series).
It also has the old Black theme similar to your ROM
Neat Rom looks interesting. Why is there an "ASOP" version? What's the difference?
Any others?
If your device is sim locked you may want to unlock it before you mess with it.
In 2 years i found stock 4.3 to be the best rom for this device.
device is unlocked and rooted.
strange how I bought it used... it was on stock UK rom... but its been flashed and rooted before.... rooting it didn't take very long... it was easy...
I have root access and its nice, but i'm looking for something that easier on the battery,cleaner bloat removed and has excellent features... but doesn't stray far from that fine stock look of an s3!
My personal best is archidroid rom, speed & stability all the way. Stock rom was slow and buggy. It took me about 2 whole minutes from unlocking to sending msg. You shld give it a try. I flashed it on 7 diff devices. Its asop, it isnt wht you are looking but certanly the worth a look
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yeah... neatrom was too slow and heavy use of ram
is their another "galaxy s3" looking like rom thats newer?
supertac said:
yeah... neatrom was too slow and heavy use of ram
is their another "galaxy s3" looking like rom thats newer?
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Rooted. Stock 4.3. Honestly its the best rom. If you want really good battery then don't root it. Don't even debloat it, dont change the kernel. Just disable facebook app and it'll serve you well.
Xposed is a big battery killer.
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...I don't use facebook app and rooting a phone serves me far more.
Maybe its lack of ram 9300 has?
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...I don't use facebook app and rooting a phone serves me far more.
Maybe its lack of ram 9300 has?
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Stay with stock 4.3 and remove unwanted bloat, don't use mods, its the source of bugs and instability.
If you want Kitkat then go with back-to-n00t, same thing with 4.3 but it was ported from the Korean LTE version, very stable and smooth, everything works fine too, because the rom includes all the Samsung blobs
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I hate the Facebook app...
I just use Facebook via the Firefox (beta) browser app and I can do just as much if not more on Facebook via the browser than the app.
Just my opinion...
I use mobile myself...
Great but now they're pushing messenger use on.mobile.
Anyone have a fix for this?
Now that the Galaxy Note 7 is out (they skipped 6 I guess?) I'm looking to finally upgrade from my Note 2. I have my eyes set on the Note 4 since it's not too different from the Note 5 but it's more versatile. My only issue with the Note 4 is the lack of dark theme, and this is actually extremely important to me. I want to know if there's a way I can potentially change the theme to dark without rooting my phone, but if I have to root I'd also like to know what would have the least impact on performance. My carrier is Verizon, if that makes a difference on what model; though I haven't bought the new phone yet.
To summarize, I'm looking for a theme that:
turns all menus dark or black
preferably doesn't require rooting
doesn't impact performance
retains S pen functionality
Thanks!
I think you do need root to change themes since note 4 doesn't have the options to change themes like the newer models.
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I haven't used a launcher before, would that possibly do it? Or would it not change everything?
Im not sure if some launcher can change the colors of the menus. Try install themer on playstore that might help you start.
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U need to flash a cm rom to get dark themes as most TW devs have awful taste or maybe I have an awful taste as I strongly dislike/hate white stock theme
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JaxBug said:
Now that the Galaxy Note 7 is out (they skipped 6 I guess?) I'm looking to finally upgrade from my Note 2. I have my eyes set on the Note 4 since it's not too different from the Note 5 but it's more versatile. My only issue with the Note 4 is the lack of dark theme, and this is actually extremely important to me. I want to know if there's a way I can potentially change the theme to dark without rooting my phone, but if I have to root I'd also like to know what would have the least impact on performance. My carrier is Verizon, if that makes a difference on what model; though I haven't bought the new phone yet.
To summarize, I'm looking for a theme that:
turns all menus dark or black
preferably doesn't require rooting
doesn't impact performance
retains S pen functionality
Thanks!
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You have to root.
but by using Xposed you can theme it to almost be black, using a few modules.
Plus with xposed you can do so much more other than save battery.
And all this will not effect your spen and other samsung app.
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You have to root.
but by using Xposed you can theme it to almost be black, using a few modules.
Plus with xposed you can do so much more other than save battery.
And all this will not effect your spen and other samsung app.
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Do you have a link to that? I'm new to modding phones so I do appreciate the help a ton. A lot of this seems pretty overwhelming.
If your new to it I would say don't do it. You need to know what your doing before going into it.
Main things to do
- Deodex your stock rom (or get one already deodexed)
- Get the right xposed installler and app
- Get twrp or other custom recovery installed.
I don't have the links and process is a bit tricky.
So first read up on these a lot and make sure you get each thing fully before you do anything.
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Do you have a link to that? I'm new to modding phones so I do appreciate the help a ton. A lot of this seems pretty overwhelming.
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