I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
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Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.
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Hello All,
I want to start off with a very big thank you to everyone in this community, everyone here has been very helpful to someone who is a general noob to HTC-Android devices (last HTC I owned was a TPII).
With that out of the way, I've had my Rezound for about a week and I love this phone. It feels great in the hand, has a gorgeous screen that is second to none, and an amazing camera that I'm happy to walk around with in case I need to grab a quick picture of something. Truly, this is a top notch device.
The problem I'm having is that after a week of owning this phone, I'm ready to leave stock. I was settled on CleanROM ICS for the time being until CM9 came out, but then I did some reading looking into CM9 which brought up a few questions.
1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
The main reason I bought this phone over the G-Nex was the SD-Card slot, the camera, and the screen. If development of an AOSP or AOKP is going to be lackluster because of the issues above, I still have one week to return the device and go back to my X for the time being. I will admit, I'm loving 4G, but I'm going to have this device for 2 years; I need to make sure I can get as much as I can out of this device.
Thank you as always for your answers!
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1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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So what makes custom radios important?
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So what makes custom radios important?
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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So con247- Do you think there is a chance that an ASOP ril will never be developed?
I guess my question is- how is the rezound>RIL>sense different than rezound>RIL>ASOP? If that makes sense?
It is possible it won't ever happen, but I have 99% faith it will be completed soonish.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
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Seems like an odd thing to buy a phone on the expectation of AOSP. I'm pretty sure we will see a solid AOSP ROM before long though. Not sure how development is going to pick up much more than it is. We have a ton of great ROMs that these awesome devs have been working on tirelessly since before the unlock was even announced. It's only been four months since the phone came out. The development has been moving at breakneck speed! The lack of flashing unsigned radios has no bearing on ROM developing. Con is dead on. Patience folks.
Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice! I appreciate it so much!
my simplified answer is: get the s3. more dev support, more accessories, mor everything. you can flash beats audio for the s3 too if that is important. great cm9 and aosp/aokp support as well
Seriously?! You can flash beats audio to the S3? Will it affect all sound that comes out of the phone (phone speaker, hands free speakerphone, music, video, all of it?) like it does on the Evo LTE? That's so cool... Not so much that I'd want it for sure but that I could have one of the main selling points on an Evo LTE on an S3! Freakin' awesome. Thanks so much for that reply and info.
You can't flash the international roms
But universalizing all us rooms for all us carriers are being worked on
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gtuansdiamm said:
You can't flash the international roms
But universalizing all us rooms for all us carriers are being worked on
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Cool. So, in theory, there could be 2-4x the devs working on S3 ROMS as the exact same phone is being released on 5 US carriers simultaneously. So, where most phones have devs from one or maybe two carriers... This will have devs from all 5. That has the potential to really make a difference and certainly add to the development synergistically. That's exciting!
Its gonna be like nexus development
But less confusing cause we have more subsections
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This is a bit of a weird question, but its important. I'm pondering the idea of upgrading my Galaxy_S3 to either the S4 or ONE. Wife just upgraded her phone to an iPhone 5 for T Mobile and loves it. I'm an iPhone fan but I prefer Android much more over iOS.
Between the S4 and the ONE, which has better (3rd party) Android development support? This is important since I'll most certainly be rooting and romming it. Is the ONE just as easily rootable as the Samsung phones? What about bootloader unlocking, can they both be unlocked easily? Does HTC have support for the very popular roms like Cyanogen or Miui?
Also, does the ONE support USB Disk mode (connect to PC or MAC via USB to transfer files < - back // forth - > )??? This is very important, especially with a phone with no removable storage option.
Thank you for answering these questions, I'm really on the fence between the 2 since they are both similar in specs and both pretty damn awesome.
Yes the HTC One supports both file transfer,
The S4 will have more development but the HTC One will not be far behind
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This is a bit of a weird question, but its important. I'm pondering the idea of upgrading my Galaxy_S3 to either the S4 or ONE. Wife just upgraded her phone to an iPhone 5 for T Mobile and loves it. I'm an iPhone fan but I prefer Android much more over iOS.
Between the S4 and the ONE, which has better (3rd party) Android development support? This is important since I'll most certainly be rooting and romming it. Is the ONE just as easily rootable as the Samsung phones? What about bootloader unlocking, can they both be unlocked easily? Does HTC have support for the very popular roms like Cyanogen or Miui?
Also, does the ONE support USB Disk mode (connect to PC or MAC via USB to transfer files < - back // forth - > )??? This is very important, especially with a phone with no removable storage option.
Thank you for answering these questions, I'm really on the fence between the 2 since they are both similar in specs and both pretty damn awesome.
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Indeed, It will support cyanogen and you can see it in the International HTC ONE development section not this Tmobile one. The brilliant thing about all HTC Ones is that the roms will always work on any variant MINUS SPRINT. So not worries about bricking your phone and such.
You can expect MIUI to come here as well. The Htc One development at the moment is slaughtering the s4 So, if in the future the s4 has more development you can expect it to be not by much....
You cant go wrong with the HTC one. Oh and with transfers and such? it all works between pc and vs. Even my crappy 2008 samsung s1 vibrant supported that
bootloader is already unlocked for HTC vs samsung youll have to wait sometime to next month for the developer found the exploit to release it to the public.
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bootloader is already unlocked for HTC vs samsung youll have to wait sometime to next month for the developer found the exploit to release it to the public.
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T-Mobile GS4 is unlocked, at&t is locked.
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T-Mobile GS4 is unlocked, at&t is locked.
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I stand corrected. However, htc one is a good choice simply because there are alot more rooms and mods out than the s4
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Just got my one on Tuesday....My n4 is scared of it! HTC over samsung this time the ONE development is BLOWING UP
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T-Mobile GS4 is unlocked, at&t is locked.
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I also have the S4 and didn't know that.
Well dude since the roms for the international version are fully compatible with t-mo and att versions the development is gonna be nasty.
development will be great for this phone since AT&T, T-mobile, and the international ROM's are all compatible. Sprint Users on the other hand though... I wouldn't get this phone if I was on Sprint.
I am currently using a great ROM right now (the one in my sig) from the international forum, just had an update this morning, and its running smooth as silk, no issues at all.
T-mobile's BL might be unlocked on the S4, but the latest OTA put a root-blocking kernel in there... and with Samsung being accepted by the DoD, it might not stop there. But given how huge that phone is / will be, that likely won't slow anybody down...
Hey there community!
So my Nexus 4 had a little accident involving a ladder the other day. Let's just say this bad boy I'm currently typing on loses more and more of its screen every day, soon it'll be totally unusable.
So I'm going to be buying an HTC One off of Kijiji. Would this switch make me happy? Anyone that's been on the Nexus line or people that just love the phone, what do You think? I know development is nowhere as 'busy' and I do love the physical look of the phone, but I just want to hear your thoughts.
Also, regarding rooting and flashing... I hear you have to flash kernels through ADB or something? Is that the same for ROMs if true? I also noticed the international forum is much more active. Being a Pentaband and device, does that mean we can one flash ROMs from this forum? I'm not sure.
Also how friendly is this community ?
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309041291a said:
Hey there community!
So my Nexus 4 had a little accident involving a ladder the other day. Let's just say this bad boy I'm currently typing on loses more and more of its screen every day, soon it'll be totally unusable.
So I'm going to be buying an HTC One off of Kijiji. Would this switch make me happy? Anyone that's been on the Nexus line or people that just love the phone, what do You think? I know development is nowhere as 'busy' and I do love the physical look of the phone, but I just want to hear your thoughts.
Also, regarding rooting and flashing... I hear you have to flash key els through ADB or something? Is that the same for ROMs if true? I also noticed the international forum is much more active. Being a Pentaband and device, does that mean we can one flash ROMs from this forum? I'm not sure.
Also how friendly is this community ?
Sent from my Bullet Time Rasta Nexus
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Well the only nexus i've had was the nexus 4 and i can say i am very happy. I have had no regrets. I dont know what you mean by key els through adb but rom flashing is done similar to all other phones, through recovery.
You mention about flashing roms from this forum, are you gonna buy the tmobile version? if not then this is probably not the best place to post. I can say the tmobile version is compatible with most (probably all) international roms. I have not ran into a rom i could not flash from that forum.
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Well the only nexus i've had was the nexus 4 and i can say i am very happy. I have had no regrets. I dont know what you mean by key els through adb but rom flashing is done similar to all other phones, through recovery.
You mention about flashing roms from this forum, are you gonna buy the tmobile version? if not then this is probably not the best place to post. I can say the tmobile version is compatible with most (probably all) international roms. I have not ran into a rom i could not flash from that forum.
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Good news to hear.
I meant kernels*. I was reading something about this "S" thing supported by this phone which makes it so you have to flash kernels over adb rather than recovery, I'm a but unclear here.
Also I am going to be buying the T Mobile version, soley for the pentaband tech, because I'll be running it with Mobilicity here in Canada. So that's more good news that I can flash from the International thread!
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309041291a said:
Good news to hear.
I meant kernels*. I was reading something about this "S" thing supported by this phone which makes it so you have to flash kernels over adb rather than recovery, I'm a but unclear here.
Also I am going to be buying the T Mobile version, soley for the pentaband tech, because I'll be running it with Mobilicity here in Canada. So that's more good news that I can flash from the International thread!
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Oh ok... yeah thats not needed anymore... you can s-off the HTC one but its not needed for kernels anymore. That was on the HTC one x and one s ....
pottyvick said:
Oh ok... yeah thats not needed anymore... you can s-off the HTC one but its not needed for kernels anymore. That was on the HTC one x and one s ....
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Well that's a relief. I'm hoping to pick up this phone tomorrow. I'm really excited after looking into it more and from this post.
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309041291a said:
Well that's a relief. I'm hoping to pick up this phone tomorrow. I'm really excited after looking into it more and from this post.
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Trust me, you'll love it... Keep in mind the camera can be the biggest issue as some users just do not like it. I personally like it, it works for my needs... I would suggest going into the international forum for more user support (not even sure why tmobile has its own forum)...
pottyvick said:
Trust me, you'll love it... Keep in mind the camera can be the biggest issue as some users just do not like it. I personally like it, it works for my needs... I would suggest going into the international forum for more user support (not even sure why tmobile has its own forum)...
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I'm sure I will
Well, I like the wider lens. To be honest, I don't use my phone to take extreme pics, just Instagram and SnapChat stuff. From the Nexus 4 camera I think it'll be a step up. Regardless, I have my t3i for my real photography stuff .
Haha. I thought there was a difference in forums. I guess I'll stick around both here and there.
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No offense to OMJ. I am just suprised we have no other ROMS for this phone.
wytecaztle said:
No offense to OMJ. I am just suprised we have no other ROMS for this phone.
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there's ViperOne, LeeDroid, and Insertcoin.
Aldo101t said:
there's ViperOne, LeeDroid, and Insertcoin.
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For the Sprint version?
wytecaztle said:
For the Sprint version?
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yep, right now the only one that supports sprint yet is ViperONE, because of the resent firmware update, we haven't got yet, but the first ones they put out prior to the update have sprint support, go to international thread and read up on it.
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For the Sprint version?
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Aldo101t said:
yep, right now the only one that supports sprint yet is ViperONE, because of the resent firmware update, we haven't got yet, but the first ones they put out prior to the update have sprint support, go to international thread and read up on it.
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LeeDROID v7.6.0 also supports sprint.
Why aren't these roms present in the Sprint section I wonder? Seems odd as nobody would think to check the international forums.
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Why aren't these roms present in the Sprint section I wonder? Seems odd as nobody would think to check the international forums.
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easier for the devs to monitor one thread than a bunch.
Well they can do what Viper did and create a small thread with links then lock it
I blame htc lol
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
OMJ said:
these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
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yup...I think a lot of people didn't see the M9 as a real upgrade to the M8 and only for those who didn't jump from M7 to M8 combined with the horrible press about the overheating (I've yet to experience) and camera (love the camera updates for what I use it for) and whining about it not being 4k (seriously, who needs that on a phone?) means it's not been a very popular device.
Screw 'em...I think it's a huge upgrade from the M7, especially the camera (even in it's original iteration).
Many thanks to @OMJ @benny3 and @chas123 for supporting this device.
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these forums are dead because of 2 reasons:
1) the M9 was not much of a upgrade from the M8
2) overheating issues
HTC took it on the chin w/ this one...
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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I could agree, but I'm still looking for a CM/AOSP flavor to rock on mine... And not to mention before the latest updates, we could still flash all those feature loaded ROMs. But lately, I'm hesitant to flash anything other than BadBoyz.
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This maybe true but another thing to point out is that this phone is so complete that there is hardly anything left to mod or add. I'm mean the only thing left for you to add to the phone is to add the 5.1 update to your ROM. Other then that your ROM is so complete its been on REV 24 for over a month with nothing else to add or tweak. Of course there is the point you already made that this phone being so close to the M8 that your ROM was already matured through the M8 days.
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This is especially true when it comes to theming. You pretty much can theme it the way you want very easy. Im not a big themer or theme design, this latest Android 5.1 is very difficult to theme. Since its still new quite a bunch of apks are not compiling correctly and im not that skilled yet or have the time lately to figure out why, LOL. Other then the Viper Theming threads not much Theming has been going on throughout all HTC M9 versions.
You are better running badboyz for sprint, our firmware is extremely sensitive and with so many international versions using their base, our lte issues arrise of we aren't using a rom that supports our phone properly.
asacado said:
You are better running badboyz for sprint, our firmware is extremely sensitive and with so many international versions using their base, our lte issues arrise of we aren't using a rom that supports our phone properly.
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Traded my flex2 for a HTC One m9, rooted it, unlocked it, and then I installed badboyz the very first day. Love it. I'm so used to having cm/aosp on all my devices and I customize the crap out of them but I have to say that I have hardly seen any lag or performance issues on this phone. The phone gets pretty warm when doing heavy tasks like playing a game and what not but I don't find it any different then other devices doing the same tasks.
Either way, I love the m9. It's a well built solid device. I jumped at the chance to trade haha. Their loss
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I will say this is probably the least active forum I have seen out of all the HTC's I have own which is every flagship for Sprint since the evo 4G (even going back to TP1 & TP2). That being said, OMJ's badboyz is awesome I have been using it since I got the phone. There is also no red text hboot and custom splash screens just like my M8 had. I like this phone, while really not much different from my M8 besides the camera it's not as big of fail as people make it out to be. I'm hoping the M10 is a nice refresh and hopefully HTC is done with trying camera gimmicks. I would like to see higher resolution screen next year & wireless charging.
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I will say this is probably the least active forum I have seen out of all the HTC's I have own which is every flagship for Sprint since the evo 4G (even going back to TP1 & TP2). That being said, OMJ's badboyz is awesome I have been using it since I got the phone. There is also no red text hboot and custom splash screens just like my M8 had. I like this phone, while really not much different from my M8 besides the camera it's not as big of fail as people make it out to be. I'm hoping the M10 is a nice refresh and hopefully HTC is done with trying camera gimmicks. I would like to see higher resolution screen next year & wireless charging.
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The majority goes on in the overall m9 forum and not sprint as I guess devs don't want to check multiple forums.
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I really don't see where development is lacking. As many have said there are quite a few roms in the main m9 forum that offer sprint support. If you look at the cm development device tree sprint support is added. What's missing?
LeeDroid, and Insertcoin drains horrible.......... lol any suggestion?