Hello,
Just bought myself the Bose SoundLink Bluetooth Mobile Speaker, and there is an delay in the audio - doesn't matter in music, but it does matter when it comes to movies...
Is audio delay normal in a bluetooth connection, or is it something that shouldn't be there?
Is there maybe something wrong with the Bose unit, or something in the Tablet Z's bluetooth software?
i believe it is normal. i notice a sound delay between my asus tf700 and my potable bluetooh speaker. and i doubt it is on bose end. i have their headphone and a speaker system and he quality id phenomenal. sound and build. ill look into it more for you when i wake up hha its almost 2am here.
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xMrArnoldx said:
i believe it is normal. i notice a sound delay between my asus tf700 and my potable bluetooh speaker. and i doubt it is on bose end. i have their headphone and a speaker system and he quality id phenomenal. sound and build. ill look into it more for you when i wake up hha its almost 2am here.
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That was a quick answer
I just paired the speaker with my Nexus 4, and there is no audio delay in movies or TV-shows...
I believe that this means that there is an issue with the Sony bluetooth hardware/software.
Poindexter80 said:
That was a quick answer
I just paired the speaker with my Nexus 4, and there is no audio delay in movies or TV-shows...
I believe that this means that there is an issue with the Sony bluetooth hardware/software.
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I noticed a 1/2 second delay when using Sony Headphones on this tablet. Is a bit annoying for watching films.
When I had the tablet for a few days I also had the annoying Bluetooth delays.
No delays with Nexus 7 and same movies / YouTube vids and same Bluetooth receiver (Harman Kardon BTA10).
So it's a fault of the Tablet Z, either software-wise or hardware-wise (which would suck very much...).
hasenbein1966 said:
When I had the tablet for a few days I also had the annoying Bluetooth delays.
No delays with Nexus 7 and same movies / YouTube vids and same Bluetooth receiver (Harman Kardon BTA10).
So it's a fault of the Tablet Z, either software-wise or hardware-wise (which would suck very much...).
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Indeed, that would be an insane issue - lets hope it is a software problem.
Do they have some official channel where one could complain?
Update: The Tablet Z actually sounds way worse than the Nexus 4 does, through bluetooth; spent an hour trying to get the sound right on the Z, and it cannot be done - took only a few minutes on the Nexus 4, and the sound resembles my stereo system.
Maybe something with Android 4.1?
Another explanation could be that I'm going slightly mad, and the sound difference is all in my mind.
Created an account just to post this info. I'm quite positive the issue lies with Sony's hardware or software. I have the problem described with my xperia z1, which is EXACTLY the problem I have on my Playstation Vita. Specifically the delay and same poor/corrupt sounding quality. It's a shame because I'm a big sony fanboy
Same problem here...
Think maybe's a sound postprocessing matter...
I wonder if you would have the same issues if you turned off the "Clear Phase" and "xLOUD" and "S-Force" settings in the "Sound" section of the settings. Perhaps the processing of the audio is causing the delay?
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I wonder if you would have the same issues if you turned off the "Clear Phase" and "xLOUD" and "S-Force" settings in the "Sound" section of the settings. Perhaps the processing of the audio is causing the delay?
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S Force and xLoud are only applied to the device speakers.
Old i know
I know that this is old but look in the appstore for BS Player. Once you load the video go to settings and look for audio then audio offset. See if that works for you.
I bought Harman Kardon Omni 10.
If I use bluetooth I have 1000 ms audio delay.
However, if I use another cheap headphone, I can listen to my computer speakers WITHOUT delay.
I think the issue happen because Harman Kardon Omni 10 doesn't support aptx. Also it may be because it's a wifi speakers. Or may be because they have their own built in delay.
No problem for listening to music. With movies, I can simply set -1000 ms audio.
But with games? I suffer a lot.
I had no idea that I will face this problem.
The sound quality is very good.
I have no idea what to do with the audio latency.
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Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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Well, quite honestly, when i first started researching bt headphones for exercising there has not been a single pair that garnered the amount of positive reviews as the bluebuds.. plus they did sound amazing on s3. I did look for aptx - s3 uses it, but no workout headphones that had aptx had good reviews in terms of build quality etc.
I do wonder tho...
On dev.android under the about Android 4.2 JB it does mention that it got a new BT stack developed, replacing current BlueZ as well as updated low-latency audio.. maybe the new stack does indeed improve quality.
im going to flash the s3 with stock 4.1 and see how it sounds and then try a couple of variations of aosp stuff and report back..
Ps. I also found a mention of how s3 uses a2dp edr natively, whereas dna is using aptx... Its going to suck if this is truly a hardware issue...
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I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
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I think Stereoclip has aptx.
So I flashed S3 back to Stock VRALF2, 4.0.x ICS, and played a couple of songs and still was getting crystal clear quality.. So it has to be the BT implementation in DNA.. Sad. Anyone has any insight into why/what could be the root cause? BT chip? DAC chip?
Thanks
If it helps any, Bluetooth audio sounds great in my 2012 Sonata.
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Do you know if the radio in your Sonata supports aptX?
Shoot I'm not even sure what that is. It sounds pretty much the same as when I have it plugged in tho.
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I use blue tooth in my car all the time and also over the blue tooth streamer for my receiver at home.
Sounds crystal clear and I have very nice speakers in both the car and at home.
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Is codec support built into blutooth or can codecs be added/modified. If so its a non issue. I would help with codec support if I were rooted
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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If that's really the case.. shame HTC. My m25 ear piece supports aptx and sounds great playing music. In one ear...
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Jaybird + dna
I have a set of jaybird freedom's myself and have had no issues with bluetooth, beats audio or audio quality. One thing i have seen though is that some roms do not handle beats over bluetooth very well. The other thing you probably should look at is to make sure that it is pairing as a stereo audio device and not a mono audio device.
+1 for horrible quality here. I use these LG blue tooth ear buds and they just sound terrible. sounded fine on my gs3...and I used one of those jbl stereo boxes and it's awful.. and again fine on the gs3. sucks.
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I have a set of Sony bt headphones (bought on amazon a while back for around $40 way before DNA I had Bionic back then) that sound very good I also stream via HTC BT dongle to my Sony xplod in car with with Fosgates all around music sounds GREAT I can really tell the difference when Beats is off even more so when I flash Awesome Beats...I also noticed a setting the other day on my Sony deck for AUX VOL while messing with sub output I turned the AUX volume up now I'm really bumping hahaha
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DNA Sound Quality
I hope you haven't given up entirely on your DNA since your post because there are some options you can explore.
Did you try turning off "Beats Audio" in your settings? I purchased the Power Amp music player update and Power Amp and Beats Audio don't work well together. In my experience, the standard Music player that comes with your phone works best with Beats. Other music players may also have the same problem. Second question, did your problem go away with the latest update to Jelly Bean 4.2.2?
Good Luck,
tijayz said:
So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
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one of the reasons I liked the z ultra is because it supports aptx. BUT i have tried all mods and players and when I play songs from my z ultra on my sennheiser mm450x which supports aptx the sound so much worse than my iPad mini which does not support aptx.
I am really do wondering why different devices give different sound quality over bluetooth, I am confused as I thought that the deciding factor is the bluetooth protocol not the device.
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one of the reasons I liked the z ultra is because it supports aptx. BUT i have tried all mods and players and when I play songs from my z ultra on my sennheiser mm450x which supports aptx the sound so much worse than my iPad mini which does not support aptx.
I am really do wondering why different devices give different sound quality over bluetooth, I am confused as I thought that the deciding factor is the bluetooth protocol not the device.
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have you tried turning off wifi?
Reason I ask is that with wifi on, the max speed bluetooth 4.0 and send/receive is 80kb/s
With wifi off... bluetooth 4.0 can almost get about 200kb/s
remembering that aptX is only supposed to be CD quality sound... i.e. 128kb/s
hamdogg said:
have you tried turning off wifi?
Reason I ask is that with wifi on, the max speed bluetooth 4.0 and send/receive is 80kb/s
With wifi off... bluetooth 4.0 can almost get about 200kb/s
remembering that aptX is only supposed to be CD quality sound... i.e. 128kb/s
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never ever thought wifi has an effect on bluetooth, I will test without wifi
no it did not help turning the wifi off.
I had a big fight the official sennheirser agent here in Israel, as I thought the sennheiser headset was not working properly, so when we tested it with other phones and tablets the sound was great.
I am getting bad quality with aptx over bluetooth using the z ultra, I really don't know why.
The bass is distorted and the treble right in my face so irritating, I don't know I thought the aptx would improve sound quality bu it did not, I really wish someone can tell me if the sound quality over bluetooth is device related or buetooth related. As I am getting a great sound using an iPhone and iPad mini but with the z ultra all I get is rubbish sound.
Guys I think I will move on and accept selling my device as that is not acceptable anymore unfortunately i put the phone for sale over a month ago and no one called about it
LORDMANHATTAN I will miss you watching and policing my threads, I think I am done here once someone buys it
hykhleif said:
no it did not help turning the wifi off.
I had a big fight the official sennheirser agent here in Israel, as I thought the sennheiser headset was not working properly, so when we tested it with other phones and tablets the sound was great.
I am getting bad quality with aptx over bluetooth using the z ultra, I really don't know why.
The bass is distorted and the treble right in my face so irritating, I don't know I thought the aptx would improve sound quality bu it did not, I really wish someone can tell me if the sound quality over bluetooth is device related or buetooth related. As I am getting a great sound using an iPhone and iPad mini but with the z ultra all I get is rubbish sound.
Guys I think I will move on and accept selling my device as that is not acceptable anymore unfortunately i put the phone for sale over a month ago and no one called about it
LORDMANHATTAN I will miss you watching and policing my threads, I think I am done here once someone buys it
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lol... did you contact Sony about it... support should offer you some advice based on their hardware
i think contacting sony is useless
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i think contacting sony is useless
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You're not really solution based are you? Ios will probably suit you better.
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You're not really solution based are you? Ios will probably suit you better.
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believe me i tried but this is over my knowledge base
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believe me i tried but this is over my knowledge base
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dude... take it into a service or Sony shop and ask them... !!
hamdogg said:
have you tried turning off wifi?
Reason I ask is that with wifi on, the max speed bluetooth 4.0 and send/receive is 80kb/s
With wifi off... bluetooth 4.0 can almost get about 200kb/s
remembering that aptX is only supposed to be CD quality sound... i.e. 128kb/s
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I had the LG Tone+ aptx headphones, and I would constantly get garbled bluetooth audio. I exchanged them for BluebudsX that don't have aptx, no more garbled audio. I had a jambox (BT 3.0 I believe and non-aptx) and upgraded to an aptx BT 4.0 speaker, and I'm experiencing garbled audio again. It happens once and awhile and it's annoying considering the quality is much better when it's not stuttering.
I would switch off wifi and I think (placebo?) it would get better. I was thinking maybe bbluetooth and wifi signals were messing with each other, but shouldn't that be a non-issue in 2014?
Are you sure about the Bluetooth bitrate and wifi on/off? Can you link me to something?
BTW, CD quality audio is 320 kb/s. 128 is a pretty heavily compressed mp3.
Let's get clear cd quality is only possible through loseless audio format such as flac, alac or wav just for mention a few ones.
So if you have a mp3 file at 320 kbps is compressed audio in a lossy codec, so it might sound good but it's not cd quality, and definitely sound muchs better than a mp3 file at 128 kbps, the higher the bitrate the better the quality of the sound.
Aptx standard is programmed to work with no loss up to 320 kbps, that means if you use aac at 441 kbps or flac at 1015 kbps it will anyway lose some quality.
Aptx loseless has been released, and it promises in the paper, it will work flawlessly with loseless files.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to use the new aptx loseless, but it might be just marketing....
Sbc is the ordinary codec used in bt audio streaming, and it also depends in versions of the sbc, but i stream audio from my old ipad 3 with no aptx to a lg bt speaker, with no aptx, sound is great, just as good as my xperia z3 streaming to my harman kardon aptx bt speaker.
So... Not a big fan of aptx
Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
steveo676 said:
Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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What head unit? I have the non navigation unit in mine. Wondering if it'll sound the same.
No issues streaming over to my car, Mazda 3 here. Not sure what to tell you as it's just a digital stream of data between your phone and car. All of the unpackaging is done on the car's side of things. The phone is using the newer BT 5 which allows it to put out a lot more data, so I don't see that being a problem. Check your streaming quality settings in Google Music and if that's set as high as it can go, check to see if maybe your car's system needs an update.
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What head unit? I have the non navigation unit in mine. Wondering if it'll sound the same.
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I have the non navigation unit too.
I have problems with podcasts, but music comes through beautifully.
Are you streaming files from the phone or streaming from your own music or listening to streaming stations? If streaming, you can try adjusting the quality settings in google play music.
No issues here with my Hyundai Sonata w/ Infinity headunit. I use standard BT (44 KHz) and Android Auto (48 KHz) and actually find the quality to be improved from my past 3 phones (V20, S8+, Note8).
I get popping and crackling streaming to isimple connect.
Music and podcasts were fine for me. Call were terrible. Lots of static on calls. I has this issue with two V30s. I had to return the phone and go with the GS8+.
coming from my moto pure, which was terrible on the bluetooth with my 2013 tacoma (HU is from a 2015 Tacoma) i had decent sound but it would drop out all the time, this phone is a dramatic improvement. there are more features in play, and the sound quality is as good as can be expected for streaming audio on a stock unit and speakers.
I was just coming in to say the same. Even from my V20, going through a cheap walmart BT - FM Transmitter, the sound is richer on the V30 than it was before, and less static between the devices.
Check your quality settings in Google
steveo676 said:
Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Have you tried changing the quality on mobile network settings in Google Play Music? Could be a case the source is low quality causing your distortion.
I've tried changing the quality and there's no difference.
I'm currently struggling with static over Bluetooth in my WRX. This morning I actually did a factory reset on the stereo. I couldn't tell as I was kinda in a hurry to test it too much. I will find out here in about 1.5hrs though.
20degrees said:
I'm currently struggling with static over Bluetooth in my WRX. This morning I actually did a factory reset on the stereo. I couldn't tell as I was kinda in a hurry to test it too much. I will find out here in about 1.5hrs though.
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Do you have Android Auto as an option? I've found BT streaming to be more stable when I use AA in my car. It streams at 48Hz instead of 44Hz.
That being said, I don't have quality issues either way. Just the occasional blip in streaming that lasts less than a second.
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NotATreoFan said:
Do you have Android Auto as an option? I've found BT streaming to be more stable when I use AA in my car. It streams at 48Hz instead of 44Hz.
That being said, I don't have quality issues either way. Just the occasional blip in streaming that lasts less than a second.
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I don't have that option unfortunately. I wish I did though. What I've tried so far, just creates the same issue. No way around it as of yet.
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I don't have that option unfortunately. I wish I did though. What I've tried so far, just creates the same issue. No way around it as of yet.
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I will test tomorrow in my car where I stream over my audio system using a Audioengine B1. So far I tested BT today using my BT headphones and they definitely sound a little different. I think they sound cleaner and very good though. This is compared to my Moto X Pure 2015, which seemed to sound very good also. The overall volume was a little lower than my previous phone but with the vol all the way up it was perfect for me to enjoy and overcome the sound of my lawnmower while cutting the lawn today
So no issues so far.
no problem at all on my jeep with Uconnect
Tested today in my car using my Audioengine B1 (stereo) and car BT (cell), sounds awesome!!
Plus found out since its a metal back plate it sticks to the dash magnet thingy I have vs using the metal plate inside of a case!!
SO far loving this phone.
Nothing useful to add at the moment beyond noting that my 2017 Subaru (BRZ) has the same issue. It appears it may be something unique to the pairing of a Subaru HU and the V30, or possibly just LG. My Sony Z5 works just fine with the stock HU, and the V30 works fine with a very cheap 1DIN HU I have around... I've reached out to Subaru but don't expect anything but finger pointing.
I'll instead likely be changing the HU to something that does Android Auto or even mirror-link... if only it were easy to make any sense of the Android HU offerings! I admit I'd sort-of like to keep the reverse camera and the steering wheel controls. I guess it wasn't worth saving the $800 on the 2017 after all (with 2018 now available for order with a price increase...) - then again, I may like whatever I install better.
I just wanted to add what I found since seems a lot of issues are from scoobies. I have an 2011 Forester XT stock non-nav HU. HU will never auto connect like it did with my HTC 10. But I found out that if I connect it through the HU works like a charm everytime. Before I was going to BT setting on the LGV30 and connecting it that way. And sometimes it would connect and if it did was really spotty, sound would stutter all the time. Drive me nuts. Now with connecting first through the HU works like a charm all the time, and just sometimes their is stutter. For my HU i've attached a pic of where the setting would be. and for me would be to click on "select audio player" and the click V30 and all is heaven.
Hope that helps some fellow scoobies.
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
majloft said:
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
LeClair said:
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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