I've been using iphone for a while but am contemplating getting a work phone so thought I'd get something different. My wife has the nokia lumia and I'm not a great fan, although I do like the dynamic windows tiles.
So I had a quick play with the Galaxy S4 and HTC One. Before I went into the store the HTC was the one I was most interested in, but I didn't like it to be honest. I usually like HTC UI but not on this, plus I didn't like the soft touch keys.
The S4 user experience was much better imo, but the thing that let it down over the HTC was the build quality/materials the phone is made from. For a £500+ phone I'd expect better tbh. I do like the Android home screen(s) though, much more interesting than the iphone imo. I'd personally like it if Apple introduced widgets rather than just having a screen full of icons.
Sorry to compare to the iphone, but obviously that's my benchmark. I did find the touchscreen very good and responsive, but neither are as slick as the iphone when scrolling around etc. At times they were a little jerky/stuttery (only minor but there), also I found that it didn't always click the links I wanted, it would click the link above or below. Finally the web pages rendered far too small for me (especially the S4). It's as though they're trying to cram to much real estate on making the text too small and ilegible. I had to zoom 99% of web pages, whereas with the iphone I can read them without zoomin
So my questions are can these things be altered? When I had my HTC HD2 a few years ago I found similar issues with rendering and area it was clicking, but you could tweak all these things, as well has how quick the screen scrolled etc by tweaking the registry (xda-developers was a great help for this). Can you do a similar thing with android?
Sorry if this sounds like I'm bashing the phones, I'm not they're very good phones. But for me personally I'd need to be able to change the rendering size of webpages at least (if not the other things) as I'd just find it too annoying to use.
You can alter the text sizes on Android browsers, under Settings > Accessibility. See screenshot.
Personally if I had to choose between the One and the S4, I'd take the One without even thinking about it.
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timmaaa said:
You can alter the text sizes on Android browsers, under Settings > Accessibility. See screenshot.
Personally if I had to choose between the One and the S4, I'd take the One without even thinking about it.
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Thanks for the reply and help. What are your reasons behind you comments of the One vs S4? It's a shame you can't rent phones fro a few days so you can get to 'play' with them properly, as we all know spending a few minutes in store doesn't give you a real fell for them
Like you mentioned earlier, the build quality is better on the HTC. Samsung phones are just too plasticy for my liking, they look ugly and feel cheap. The design of the One is beautiful.
I also much prefer the stock Sense 5 UI over Touchwiz, I'm using Sense 5 on my One XL at the moment. I'm usually an AOSP fan (I've never really liked Sense much) but Sense 5 has won me over. Touchwiz looks so ugly to me, especially the comic-sans kind of fonts they use so often! If I was getting one I'd root it anyway so I guess the UI would be interchangeable.
Lastly, I think Samsung try too hard, yeah they have some cool features sometimes but ultimately I think they're really gimmicky. In fairness the same could be said about the Beats "audio enhancement" found on HTC phones, no thanks I prefer a music player with good built in equalizer (like Poweramp).
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Like you mentioned earlier, the build quality is better on the HTC. Samsung phones are just too plasticy for my liking, they look ugly and feel cheap. The design of the One is beautiful.
I also much prefer the stock Sense 5 UI over Touchwiz, I'm using Sense 5 on my One XL at the moment. I'm usually an AOSP fan (I've never really liked Sense much) but Sense 5 has won me over. Touchwiz looks so ugly to me, especially the comic-sans kind of fonts they use so often! If I was getting one I'd root it anyway so I guess the UI would be interchangeable.
Lastly, I think Samsung try too hard, yeah they have some cool features sometimes but ultimately I think they're really gimmicky. In fairness the same could be said about the Beats "audio enhancement" found on HTC phones, no thanks I prefer a music player with good built in equalizer (like Poweramp).
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Thanks again. I need to swot up on the different UI's as I'm not familiar with all the different Android UI's/OS's eg touchwiz
After researching and playing with these devices again in store I think I'll choose the HTC One. One think that I don't like is the black background when you go to the apps page, or in menus. The blue wallpaper of the Samsung Galaxy looks much more aesthetically appealing to me (see below). I know with android you can customise just about anything, so can you change the app and menu backgrounds on the HTC to anything you want rather than just having plain black? How easy is it to do?
Not a big thing I know, but aesthetics is important to me
HTC One
Galaxy S4
On the stock ROM I don't believe you can change the app drawer background. But, if you decide to root the device there will most likely be ROMs available that will have that as an option, plus many more.
In terms of how easy rooting is to accomplish, I believe if you can read and have a basic understanding of technology then it's pretty straight forward. It's daunting at first, I researched quite a lot before attempting it, which is always the best way to go about it.
You're in the right place. XDA is a brilliant community, with a wealth of information, and it's full of like minded people who are willing to lend a hand. If you do decide to root your phone, just go to the XDA home page, use the drop down boxes at the top to find your device forum, and start learning about the true capabilities of Android.
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So my questions are can these things be altered?
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Most things on android can be changed which is what what makes it so great.
Thanks for the replies guys. When you say root the device is this essentially hacking the device, such as jailbreaking the iphone? If so does it cause any performance issues/glitches, and does it effect warranty in any way?
As for the forum, it is truly staggering the knowledge base on here. I used the site many moons ago when I had the HTC HD2 and the info was invaluable.
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Thanks for the replies guys. When you say root the device is this essentially hacking the device, such as jailbreaking the iphone? If so does it cause any performance issues/glitches, and does it effect warranty in any way?
As for the forum, it is truly staggering the knowledge base on here. I used the site many moons ago when I had the HTC HD2 and the info was invaluable.
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Yeah rooting is like jail-breaking, essentially it's hacking your phone in order to give it access to the root directory of your device (where the cool stuff is), hence the term rooting.
There is usually a warning that it will indeed void your warranty. In terms of glitches, newer ROMs can have bugs, it's a matter of testing them out and finding which one works for you best. Most of the stuff available is good for daily driver use though :thumbup:
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Thanks again. I assume if you root your phone there is a way to restore it to it's original condition should you have any warranty issues, or wish to sell it on when you upgrade?
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Thanks again. I assume if you root your phone there is a way to restore it to it's original condition should you have any warranty issues, or wish to sell it on when you upgrade?
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Yes you can run an RUU (ROM update utility) which takes it back to a completely stock state. Your bootloader will have flags which say "tampered" or "unlocked" or both, but I believe the One has s-off now so I think removing them is possible, best to check at that forum though.
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Yes you can run an RUU (ROM update utility) which takes it back to a completely stock state. Your bootloader will have flags which say "tampered" or "unlocked" or both, but I believe the One has s-off now so I think removing them is possible, best to check at that forum though.
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Many thanks.
No problems :thumbup:
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Hi,
is anybody working on porting HTC Sense to SG2 ?
I know there are threads on this issue with Samsung Galaxy S1 and Tab.
The SG2 is a good phone hardware wise (except for it totally over saturated colors on the display, and lack of led notification light), but it is directly user unfriendly software wise. (yes I have tried the NOLED software, but it drains the battery in notime, uninstalled!) - And making my living as a photographer with 3 hardware calibrated LCD screens, I can not recognize my pictures on the screen on the SG2, it may have good black-levels, but hello ??? The colors are WRONG on this phone!
After having used HTC Desire before, so many things are annoying me on
this SG2.
The list is so long with issues that I am considering writing up a bad-review for the
Samsung GS2 just to show how bad it is compared to HTC phones.
Just to mention a few issues:
- the stock keyboard on the SG2 is a joke! (yes I know there are 3rd partys and I am using one)- but the first you notice is you have to do a LOT of extra keystrokes to find and do what you want to do! (comma, special signs etc.)
- the call module, log etc is really really bad, HTC has collected them all in one window, on the SG2 you have to press a LOT to get what you want, and what moron decided to embed the text-messages in the call-log? you cannot remove the either! sick!
- pressing a missed call (once you find it WAY down the list, due to all the text messages above it), you get up another annoying option screen, why cant the damn phone just make the call back?? that's why you are there isn't it?
- the embedded modules/widgets on the HTC is unbeatable, like the brilliant friend widget which includes both a fb and a brilliant flickr broweser. There is not a single desent flickr program/browser on the market that can compare!
- I have tried just about every 3rd party launcher there is available, but they all are bad compared to HTC sense. currently using Launcher Pro Plus, which tries to emulate some of the features of the HTC sense UI, but doing it badly. annoyin message constantly about entering twitter preferences, the point is I dont have and dont need twitter!! AAARGH!!!
I am not a millionaire and I would prefer not having to buy a new phone and loose money on my over-rated SG2. But if porting HTC Sense to the SG2 is unlikely to happen I will take the loss.
For crying out loud, who buyes a smartphone based on reviews that run benchmarking software to test them? We need a phone to work smoothly and be user friendly, not win every possible benchmark!
And while I am writing this, the SG2 beeps telling me the battery is flat, AGAIN !!
I do not mean to ***** and complain, but I really think somebody should start working on the Sense port to Samsung. I hope somebody else sees my points.
Best reg,
messus
messus said:
Hi,
is anybody working on porting HTC Sense to SG2 ?
I know there are threads on this issue with Samsung Galaxy S1 and Tab.
The SG2 is a good phone hardware wise (except for it totally over saturated colors on the display, and lack of led notification light), but it is directly user unfriendly software wise. (yes I have tried the NOLED software, but it drains the battery in notime, uninstalled!) - And making my living as a photographer with 3 hardware calibrated LCD screens, I can not recognize my pictures on the screen on the SG2, it may have good black-levels, but hello ??? The colors are WRONG on this phone!
After having used HTC Desire before, so many things are annoying me on
this SG2.
The list is so ling with issues that I am considering writing up a bad-review for the
Samsung GS2 just to show how bad it is compared to HTC phones.
Just to mention a few issues:
- the stock keyboard on the SG2 is a joke! (yes I know there are 3rd partys and I am using one)- but the first you notice is you have to do a LOT of extra keystrokes to find and do what you want to do! (comma, special signs etc.)
- the call module, log etc is really really bad, HTC has collected them all in one window, on the SG2 you have to press a LOT to get what you want, and what moron decided to embed the text-messages in the call-log? you cannot remove the either! sick!
- pressing a missed call (once you find it WAY down the list, due to all the text messages above it), you get up another annoying option screen, why cant the damn phone just make the call back?? that's why you are there isn't it?
- the embedded modules/widgets on the HTC is unbeatable, like the brilliant friend widget which includes both a fb and a brilliant flickr broweser. There is not a single desent flickr program/browser on the market that can compare!
- I have tried just about every 3rd party launcher there is available, but they all are bad compared to HTC sense. currently using Launcher Pro Plus, which tries to emulate some of the features of the HTC sense UI, but doing it badly. annoyin message constantly about entering twitter preferences, the point is I dont have and dont need twitter!! AAARGH!!!
I am not a millionaire and I would prefer not having to buy a new phone and loose money on my over-rated SG2. But if porting HTC Sense to the SG2 is unlikely to happen I will take the loss.
For crying out loud, who buyes a smartphone based on reviews that run benchmarking software to test them? We need a phone to work smoothly and be user friendly, not win every possible benchmark!
And while I am writing this, the SG2 beeps telling me the battery is flat, AGAIN !!
I do not mean to ***** and complain, but I really think somebody should start working on the Sens port to Samsung. I hope somebody else sees my points.
Best reg,
messus
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My suggestion is go buy a sensation because It doesn't sound like you want to do the work to get what you want. Those who like the sense UI really like it and the SGII might not be the best fit for you.
As to who buys the phone based on reviews .... well you obviously and now you are all panty twisted because its not a HTC phone. One suggests you should have just gone for a HTC to start instead of buying a phone ... waiting out the return period and then coming here to whine.
What to you mean "do the work" ? I am not a programmer, that's why I am "whining" about it and asking if anybody knows if anybody is working on this.
And yes, it is stupid to get carried away when just about every reviewer gives the Samsung Galaxy S2 which has good hardware, full score due to running benchmarking programs. And I admit I was stupid. But I guess you get "carried away" and you are
thinking "all of them can't be wrong" !? - In this case I am tempted to say they actually
are, since the phone is not user friendly at all.
Nevertheless, I am certain the SG2 with Sense 3.0 would be the ultimate thing.
Best,
messus
I have used sense and I do not like it.
HTC fanboys are worse than Apple 's sometimes.
SGS S II is faster than sensation because that phone has sense on it.
It slows it down and if you have 100mb of free RAM you are lucky.
Believe me just flash miui and you are happy
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Bratag said:
My suggestion is go buy a sensation because It doesn't sound like you want to do the work to get what you want. Those who like the sense UI really like it and the SGII might not be the best fit for you.
As to who buys the phone based on reviews .... well you obviously and now you are all panty twisted because its not a HTC phone. One suggests you should have just gone for a HTC to start instead of buying a phone ... waiting out the return period and then coming here to whine.
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This is xda, and this is what xda is supposed to be about, not tell people to buy a phone but to get the stuff working.
messus said:
What to you mean "do the work" ? I am not a programmer, that's why I am "whining" about it and asking if anybody knows if anybody is working on this.
And yes, it is stupid to get carried away when just about every reviewer gives the Samsung Galaxy S2 which has good hardware, full score due to running benchmarking programs. And I admit I was stupid. But I guess you get "carried away" and you are
thinking "all of them can't be wrong" !? - In this case I am tempted to say they actually
are, since the phone is not user friendly at all.
Nevertheless, I am certain the SG2 with Sense 3.0 would be the ultimate thing.
Best,
messus
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All of the problems you listed can be rectified by third party software - much of which is free. In fact the sense UI lockscreen was just made available to all in the android hacking section as were several other parts of the OS. But searching is hard ....
This is xda, and this is what xda is supposed to be about, not tell people to buy a phone but to get the stuff working.
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Actually its not supposed to be ABOUT anything other than the hacking and use of devices, its not a support forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
GJ123, thank you !! That MIUI stuff looks really interesting, will give it a go!
godutch said:
This is xda, and this is what xda is supposed to be about, not tell people to buy a phone but to get the stuff working.
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Twoddle. People who develop on xda do it for their own fun and then they share. Developers are not at the beck and call of anyone who wants X to do Y.
Xda is about sharing information and tech - NOT issuing demands.
As for the OP, that was just a little too aggressive to be taken seriously, so I'm not surprised that he got flamed for it, but at least he seems to be getting some positive responses now.
Incidentally, this subject has been discussed many times and a simple search on the OP's part would have led them to other threads where this could have been discussed. Instead, they decided to ignore the forum rules and start a new thread.
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GJ123, thank you !! That MIUI stuff looks really interesting, will give it a go!
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No thanks,
Will you report back over how you think about MIUI?
Remeber it is still beta btw
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I do not mean to ***** and complain
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So is this accidental *****ing and complaining then?
GOOD NEWS!!!
You can get sense here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1109
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GOOD NEWS!!!
You can get sense here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1109
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Xda is not supposed to have this kind of fanboy activity, at least not when i joined.
defending touchwiz/samsung to the point where you tell others to sell their phones just to get sense ui is ridiculous. who are YOU to say sense should not be ported? I believe the developer has the right. why would you try to prevent interest in this rom?
1xinfusion said:
Xda is not supposed to have this kind of fanboy activity, at least not when i joined.
defending touchwiz/samsung to the point where you tell others to sell their phones just to get sense ui is ridiculous. who are YOU to say sense should not be ported? I believe the developer has the right. why would you try to prevent interest in this rom?
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lol lighten up dude. it was a joke
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lol lighten up dude. it was a joke
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Your sense of humour is very bad
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whining about the colours. Go to settings>display>screen mode>standard
Ever owned a TV, you can easily adjust the screen colours man.
And the only true hot thing about Sense 3.0 is the lockscreen, but you can get almost the exact same lockscreen with agile lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nanoha.SenseScreen_charge
stop hatin.
Mod edit: The use of offence language on XDA is against forum rules read the rules!!! Any future use will result in infractions and vacation.
In case no one knows about this yet, I'll just leave this here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217752
androidsjonnie said:
whining about the colours. Go to settings>display>screen mode>standard
Ever owned a TV, you can easily adjust the screen colours man.
And the only true hot thing about Sense 3.0 is the lockscreen, but you can get almost the exact same lockscreen with agile lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nanoha.SenseScreen_charge
stop hatin.
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this isn't a teen forum or a chatroom, at least try to not use offensive words please?
GJ123 said:
No thanks,
Will you report back over how you think about MIUI?
Remeber it is still beta btw
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YES! I can tell you I have been running MIUI ever since I started this thread!
And, I will NEVER go back to stock rom, or semi-stock modifed rom, THIS (MIUI) is how the Samsung Galaxy S2 should have been from the beginning! And all other android devices without HTC Sense for that matter. MIUI is a fantastic user interface, beautiful, smooth, practical, very well thought-through and USER FRIENDLY !!
Thank you MIUI ! If it was not for you I would have trashed this higly over-rated smartphone from Samsung!
I have always been a little confused by some people that by and HTC phone. You see it in every HTC phone forum. People by the latest and greatest HTC phone just to get rid of Sense. You know going into buying an HTC phone it has Sense but you don't like it. Why not just wait for the GNEX? I had an ERIS. I understand trying to get every inch of speed out of your phone. This phone doesn't need that. With the Eris I even ran a Sense based ROM because it just seemed to actually be the smoothest thing to run on it. This phone was built for Sense. It just needs to be optimized and tweaked a little. On my ERIS I flashed pretty much every ROM made for that guy. Always went back to Sense. Just felt right. But if I didn't like Sense, I would have never bought this phone. I am just trying to get some feedback from the rest of you guys/girls to get a better understanding of this trend.
Well in my case I got the sensation because it was dual core. Solid screen size and it was out about 6 months before the gs2. I never had much of a problem with sense other than the fact that it's a ram hog. I would imagine people buy HTC products because of the hardware.
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So that you have less programs taking resources from other programs.
HTC makes good hardware. Up until they started being strict about locking the bootloader, you get the phone for the hardware, design (prefer theirs over Samsung), you could buy the phone and put other roms on there that are faster. Nexus phones are good only because of the software, but hardware wise its usually a little behind. So if you could put the same software on better hardware, its a better option.
Because HTC has some decent phones, but Sense is an abomination. We want the hardware, but not the ****ty software. It's a pretty simple concept.
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Replace sense with a different launcher and watch how much more battery life and snapper the phone runs and you'll understand too.
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Gary13579 said:
Because HTC has some decent phones, but Sense is an abomination. We want the hardware, but not the ****ty software. It's a pretty simple concept.
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What do you find an "abomination"/"****ty"? I just find that most people end up running a CM ROM then re-sense it with second had apps or built in features of the launchers they are using.
jim_0068 said:
Replace sense with a different launcher and watch how much more battery life and snapper the phone runs and you'll understand too.
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I have run different launchers. I actually did before I my OP. I personally didn't feel like that phone was super "snappier" or that battery changed much. Battery has been more of a screen/radios issue. I have been averaging 16 hours with normal use on the regular battery.
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What do you find an "abomination"/"****ty"? I just find that most people end up running a CM ROM then re-sense it with second had apps or built in features of the launchers they are using.
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I could rant for hours about why I hate Sense. It breaks compatibility, removes features, generally looks completely fugly (not so much now a days but on my Evo 4G, it's terribly ugly), performance issues, battery issues, closed nature is against my GNU ways, severely ****s up contacts (embeds notes into your Google Contacts in the cloud, often times doesn't sync properly etc), spams you about some ****ty HTC Sync option every time I plugin to my PC which is 300% useless as I run Linux on my desktop, and the list goes on and on.
CM7 is overall just a huge improvement. I love not being tied to HTC's garbage, being able to build and tweak my own ROMs *from source*, getting updates for newer versions before 99% of phones have them, etc.
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Hardware duhh.....are u seriously asking this...cmon
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squidder said:
Hardware duhh.....are u seriously asking this...cmon
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That's like buying a new car for the the power train only. There is going to be something comparable to the rezound in no time. If you hate HTC's twist on android why support them by buying there phone? Business see numbers, if they are selling their phones like hot cakes they think you pretty much like the overall phone. They are gonna just keep expanding and refining sense.
HTC isn't suddenly going to stop using Sense because I didn't buy their phones (which, btw, I've already stopped doing, samsung > *), and if we think that sense is total **** (which it is), why shouldn't we remove it? We're not paying for the OS, we're paying for the phone.
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Gary13579 said:
I could rant for hours about why I hate Sense. It breaks compatibility, removes features, generally looks completely fugly (not so much now a days but on my Evo 4G, it's terribly ugly), performance issues, battery issues, closed nature is against my GNU ways, severely ****s up contacts (embeds notes into your Google Contacts in the cloud, often times doesn't sync properly etc), spams you about some ****ty HTC Sync option every time I plugin to my PC which is 300% useless as I run Linux on my desktop, and the list goes on and on.
CM7 is overall just a huge improvement. I love not being tied to HTC's garbage, being able to build and tweak my own ROMs *from source*, getting updates for newer versions before 99% of phones have them, etc.
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I understand the whole being able to fully customize to your liking. That's why I am asking, iF you have such a hate for Sense why would you financially support what they are putting out? I also understand your a dev so you love linux and the more pure android experience. Would you buy and iPhone if you like the specs on it? I hate apple products personally, if their specs on somthing was awesome and I could change their OS to my liking I still would not but and apple product!
Hrmm... Let me see if I can figure this out.
Post a message on a developer-centric website.
About an Android Phone.
Wondering why people would want to customize the software to their liking.
I smell Troll.
It's not only the internal hardware, but the overall quality of HTC phones is great. Compared to Samsung phones, these are much more solid. Also, until this phone, HTC has been extremely friendly for devs. Nobody expected this phone to be locked down for this long.
And don't even start with apples way overpriced locked down phones.
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I think we can see where you are coming from, but it's really not as simple as you are making it out to be. There are really only a few choices out there, so there might not be one that fits exactly what people want as a whole. So we make do with what we can, like buying an htc phone for the hardware and updating the software to our liking.
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Hrmm... Let me see if I can figure this out.
Post a message on a developer-centric website.
About an Android Phone.
Wondering why people would want to customize the software to their liking.
I smell Troll.
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I totally understand about customizing your phone. I actually asked why do you hate sense. So far I got I F*ing hate it and it's ****ty. Gary did have some valid points. I prefer a Rom based on the Sense framework with the bloat gone. It can be a pleasant experience. It seems more like a troll to me to not read everything and post what you did!
danutzz said:
It's not only the internal hardware, but the overall quality of HTC phones is great. Compared to Samsung phones, these are much more solid. Also, until this phone, HTC has been extremely friendly for devs. Nobody expected this phone to be locked down for this long.
And don't even start with apples way overpriced locked down phones.
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LOL, sorry for bringing apple into it! I totally agree for the most part HTC makes solid phones. Thats the main reason I buy them also. I have sammy tv's but I have had nothing but problems with their phones.
ozzyager said:
I think we can see where you are coming from, but it's really not as simple as you are making it out to be. There are really only a few choices out there, so there might not be one that fits exactly what people want as a whole. So we make do with what we can, like buying an htc phone for the hardware and updating the software to our liking.
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I see that. I just wanted to know why all the hate for sense. If it is so bad, why is their pretty much and app for everything that sense has?
Also I am laid off right now, so I have nothing better to do than start a thread about this. I knew there was going to be a bunch of hate directed blindly towards me for starting this but I honestly want to know why the hatred for sense.
dpiddy14 said:
I totally understand about customizing your phone. I actually asked why do you hate sense. So far I got I F*ing hate it and it's ****ty. Gary did have some valid points. I prefer a Rom based on the Sense framework with the bloat gone. It can be a pleasant experience. It seems more like a troll to me to not read everything and post what did!
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Your question was why buy a phone that had sense on it, knowing it was there, rather than buying another brand and supporting HTC Financially when you didn't like the software.
For me, I didn't really know if I would like Sense or not. Having not run Sense on an Android phone, I was at least interested to try. I had Sense on an old Win-Mo phone, but had not had a chance to try the latest/greatest.
I suspected that I wouldn't like it (and I don't ... I'm not into social media, and I like to tweak my launcher bar, screen size, etc .. things I can't do with Sense), but this particular phone is still the best you can buy at this moment. Best screen, CPU, etc. While the G-Nex has some appeal, I had hoped this phone would give me the best of all worlds (Try Sense, if I don't like it, unlock, go AOSP, etc.).
My 'dig' at you was simply that on this type of site, in this type of environment, we aren't just 'users'. We are tweakers at a minimum, and some even hav dev skills. So the concept of taking ANY phone and not 'ripping it apart' doesn't fit. If it was a Samsung phone, we'd be trying to get rid of Touchwiz, if it was Motorola, we'd want free of MotoBlur.
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I totally understand about customizing your phone. I actually asked why do you hate sense. So far I got I F*ing hate it and it's ****ty. Gary did have some valid points. I prefer a Rom based on the Sense framework with the bloat gone. It can be a pleasant experience. It seems more like a troll to me to not read everything and post what you did!
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Did I use troll right? I don't usually use the little kid, tattle tell, words like noob, or troll.
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Your question was why buy a phone that had sense on it, knowing it was there, rather than buying another brand and supporting HTC Financially when you didn't like the software.
For me, I didn't really know if I would like Sense or not. Having not run Sense on an Android phone, I was at least interested to try. I had Sense on an old Win-Mo phone, but had not had a chance to try the latest/greatest.
I suspected that I wouldn't like it (and I don't ... I'm not into social media, and I like to tweak my launcher bar, screen size, etc .. things I can't do with Sense), but this particular phone is still the best you can buy at this moment. Best screen, CPU, etc. While the G-Nex has some appeal, I had hoped this phone would give me the best of all worlds (Try Sense, if I don't like it, unlock, go AOSP, etc.).
My 'dig' at you was simply that on this type of site, in this type of environment, we aren't just 'users'. We are tweakers at a minimum, and some even hav dev skills. So the concept of taking ANY phone and not 'ripping it apart' doesn't fit. If it was a Samsung phone, we'd be trying to get rid of Touchwiz, if it was Motorola, we'd want free of MotoBlur.
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If you have never had a sense phone I could understand trying it. Thanks for posting what you don't like about it too. I am not against switching ROM's customizing to your liking. I am totally for it. Like you said if we are here we are tweakers at minimum. I was more questioning the people the first day it was out wanting s-off to get ride of sense. Then recently the desense utility came out. It just sparked my interest. Who knows when ICS comes out if I will still want sense myself.
For the past week or so I've asking myself if my Android is better or worse than my friend's iPhone with respect to hardware, aesthetics and user-freindly-ness. There are more than a few ways to tackle this question as different features appeal to different people, which is why I present this question to the whole of xda (or just the X2 forum lol) : Which one do you think is better and why?
A couple things: 1.) Im relatively new here and I dont know how often this question is askedso I'll understand if this question starts a riot and is taken down and 2.) I know there will be some bias, but I feel as this forum in particular will be honest in answering my question.
Many to thanks to anyone that happens to read this and many more to anyone that bothers responding!
Android, cause I can do whatever I want, whenever I want. The thought of clouds and cloud connect must really suck not being able to see our hear when your in a building, elevator, tunnel out remote location. Plus only $6.99 a month for insurance, iPhone is $10.99 and I prefer a one year warranty over Apple 90 day warranty.
Yes Apple is simple, simple is as simple does. Simple people like simple things!
I like to unleash, and have the option too change whatever.
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Android, cause I can do whatever I want, whenever I want. The thought of clouds and cloud connect must really suck not being able to see our hear when your in a building, elevator, tunnel out remote location. Plus only $6.99 a month for insurance, iPhone is $10.99 and I prefer a one year warranty over Apple 90 day warranty.
Yes Apple is simple, simple is as simple does. Simple people like simple things!
I like to unleash, and have the option too change whatever.
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So Im assuming iPhone's cannot run different ROMs in the way Androids can? Forgive me if I sound clueless; I have ~20 minutes of experience with Apple's phones.
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So Im assuming iPhone's cannot run different ROMs in the way Androids can? Forgive me if I sound clueless; I have ~20 minutes of experience with Apple's phones.
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Here's the thing. Iphone must jailbreak to do many of the things that android can do out if the box.
But! Iphone does one thing out of the box that android typically has to root to do: run buttery smooth, all the time. Everything Iphone does, it does better stock for stock.
But I cannot own an Iphone for one reason, if no other: the ui is SO boring it puts me to sleep. Android is much more entertaining just swiping home screens and widgets and notification panels, etc.
Just my two cents...
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I guess it boils down to what you want out of a smrtphone. If you don't care about physical keyboards, interesting ui's, screen size, you just want it to WORK, then I think you're better served by an Iphone. Not me.
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If they are better you wouldn't see us here.
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Okay, the iPhone vs. Android debate is just silly.
It all boils down to what you like.
If you don't care about customization, don't want to worry about having to set things up, want to ensure that your phone works the same as everyone else, then the iPhone is the phone to get. You know that your iPhone 4s will be the same as everyone else who has an iPhone 4s. You all will run the same OS version and get the same update at the same time. No issues with "Hey how come you have ICS and I still have Gingerbread?" No issues with waiting for your phone manufacturer to release a certain version of the OS (like we have with all the different phone manufacturers and carriers for Android).
But, if you want to customize, you want to change the UI, you want flexibility, don't mind researching which phones might best fit you, understand what the different Android OS versions are, etc, then the Android is your way.
It all depends on how much control you want over your phone. Even with Android, though, carriers make it difficult at times to allow you to have that full control. That is the current issue with the X2 and many other Motorola phones - no unlocked bootloader which makes it more difficult to upgrade the phone to the latest Android OS. But, if you have developer support, then chances are, you'll see some great things come. Fortunately, with the X2, we have some great devs out there - Nitro, Dragonzkiller, Aceoyame - that are creating some excellent custom ROMs for the X2.
But, with Android, you have to keep up with what is out there IF you want to keep customizing. You could still get an Android, not root it and not customize it and you might be fine, but you really need to investigate which phones work the best out of the box. The X2 doesn't. Too much BLUR crap in it, hence that's why we like to put on custom ROMs that remove that BLUR which in turn, helps the performance of the phone.
Okay, that was long, but it pretty much sums up that it all boils down to each persons personal preference. Just because I like Android over iOs doesn't mean it's right for the next person. You just have to investigate it and choose the one that best fits you. If you like what you chose, then it was the right choice for you. I just can't stand when people try to just say things like "Android is the best. iOs sucks" without backing it up with any facts other than personal opinion. That is NOT fair to the next person looking for a phone.
I had iphone for 5 years, starting with the first one and then the 3g and then the 4! I always jailbreaked it and it was a pain to use itunes! I loved it b4 but now with my gNote i can never consider byuin an iphone again! Too simple for me! This comes down to what u want to do with the phone, my parents use iphone cause its simple, but for somebody who wants to modify his phone, iphone is not the phone for those people! Android is developing much faster than iphone, and for me, that somethin i appreciate alot!
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iPhones are for the people who don't understand nor want to understand the technology they are holding in their hands, they just want to go as far as jail breaking their phone. Android users are the ones that tend to be more into the technology in their phones. But then there are those iPhone users who think they know technology, yet they have a hard time understanding the difference between hard drive and SD card. So I think it boils down to the person, to their interest and how much time they want to spend on their phone besides texting and playing angry birds haha
Don't hate me, I just see a lot of people with iPhones thinking they know more about this stuff while spitting out words at random like "my CPU is better than yours!" Yet they have no idea what a CPU is.
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Many thanks to everyone for the great insight. So the conclusion I draw from this thread and other deabates on the topic is that: iPhone: user freindly (not to say the Droid isn't) and simple thus making it very very appealing to the masses. It also is very limited when it comes to making modifications (which to me is quite a downfall to us but enables a Droid user to ultimately push past the iPhone user).
The Droid: Huge selection of phones. Can be modified to all hell assuming your model is fairly unlocked and if I might add, the only option for a man with big hands. Our major downfall is that some phones fall behind in development whereas the iPhone os is functionally consistent across most models.
So sorry if that was long but I really enjoy getting as much info as possible on a certain subject and presenting it to those better than me to make sure its accurate is important soooo please correct me if anything I said was wrong!!!
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I believe you now understand better than most.
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Hell
I chose the x2 OVER the I phone based on performance and customization differences IN STORE, which means I felt the x2(or any Droid in store) offered more for me to do/play with right out the box.
That's the basic difference, whether you root or jailbreak or not the DROID DOES...plain and simple
Widgets widgets widgets
many different launchers you can custom fit to your liking
Many more options
AND THEN YOU ROOT
And wow its a whole new world, get ready
Just my thoughts
Not to mention this awesome community, for the most part....
Just for the sake of rebellion I refuse to join the technologically and possibly mentally inferior software users...(iPhone) I do more than use software, I mod. And experiment
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I've never actually played around with a jailbroken iPhone but from what I've read, the only perk is a nice app store. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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thelowend said:
I've never actually played around with a jailbroken iPhone but from what I've read, the only perk is a nice app store. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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That's basically it. For the iPods, you can change wallpaper and stuff and font and transitions and stuff. Basically what they have when they jailbreak, is what we have out of the box with android. But when we root, we have even more haha
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That's basically it. For the iPods, you can change wallpaper and stuff and font and transitions and stuff. Basically what they have when they jailbreak, is what we have out of the box with android. But when we root, we have even more haha
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They still don't get cool widgets and launchers tho
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They still don't get cool widgets and launchers tho
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I could'nt survive without a good weather + clock widget. And I NEED my app killer widget.
thelowend said:
I've never actually played around with a jailbroken iPhone but from what I've read, the only perk is a nice app store. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Until they started monitoring it, jailbreaking an iPhone also meant you could enable tethering for free.
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I could'nt survive without a good weather + clock widget. And I NEED my app killer widget.
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I like weatherbug. Its has the temp for your area at the left of the status bar. If you pull down the status bar, it has weather info right at the top. Not sure if it has any widgets though.
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They still don't get cool widgets and launchers tho
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I've only used the Google music widget, I put all the icons on the left and right side of the center home screen and keep the wall paper visible haha
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I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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where did you hear that the LTE won't get jelly bean?
semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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Google made it mandatory for OEMs to support their product for 18 months...the EVO, without a doubt in my mind, will recieve the jellybean update...disable gmail app under apps>all> click gmail and top right button disables it. Or don't sync your google account?
Battery pull is as easy as holding your power button for 10 seconds until it reboots..you're chilling
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I didn't eveN think that ios had a real UI..if you wanna look like ios remove all widgets and just put a bunch of apps on your home screens..the battery thing you will get over..Trust me..and I don't know where u saw we won't get jellybean. I think that's hogwash
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I didn't eveN think that ios had a real UI..if you wanna look like ios remove all widgets and just put a bunch of apps on your home screens..the battery thing you will get over..Trust me..and I don't know where u saw we won't get jellybean. I think that's hogwash
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Yeah the JB thing got me there for a second. Even if HTC decided not to release JB, someone, will release a build for it.
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JB isn't a huge leap like gingerbread to ICS was, even if that were true (which I doubt) that shouldn't deter you from getting this phone.
You prefer the iPhone UI? All you do is scroll through pages of apps. We call that the app drawer. Haha, everything else may be new to you, so I'm guessing you may not be taking advantage of the FAR more interesting UI of Android 4.0. Learn more, and you'll love it.
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semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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Indeed the camera and camcorder are spiffy ^^
It will get jelly bean.
Honestly, if you like the iphone gui you can probably just install another launcher or rom like MIUI once/if it gets stable.
The battery pull thing isn't that bad, and if you need to replace the battery with a new one, it is possible but it's a really involved process.
Here's where I can't really comfort you. You will most likely have to root this phone in order to stay happy with it. I thought I didn't need to because the speed and everything was so amazing and overwhelming at first, but I did. I'm not sure how much the OTA helped, but for now I believe you will be forced to root in order to compensate for the devices flaws(Wifi/3g stability & multitasking mainly). Rooting can help alleviate some of this pain and make it a strong daily driver though.
Once you root, you won't notice a large performance boost, mainly because on today's phones and our phone specifically it's powerful enough to handle most tasks already. Battery life won't change much either(I get a fairly solid day easily). Although you'll get a lot more stability out of your phone strangely.
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You prefer the iPhone UI? All you do is scroll through pages of apps. We call that the app drawer. Haha, everything else may be new to you, so I'm guessing you may not be taking advantage of the FAR more interesting UI of Android 4.0. Learn more, and you'll love it.
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I keep trying to tell my gf who has an iPhone 4s the same thing! They are boring as hell...not to mention very outdated... People spend money to upgrade from 4 to 4s for siri and NEVER USE IT...WTF??!! A waste of $200+
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Yea ios to me is a joke..sure the apps are nice and it is super smooth but there is nothing else to it...I get bored with ios within minutes..if.I get tired of my phone I can do a complete overhaul and completely change the look of the UI..if all android had to do is scroll through apps on sure it would be just as responsive..although its getting pretty damn close
lol no official JB on the HTC EVO 4G LTE?? What kind of BS is that? whoever told you that is full of ish.
Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
We're an Apple family (iPhones, iPods, MBPro, Mac Mini) and I'm the only Android user. What I mean by GUI is Apple's approach to simplicity and user fluidity. Those are all things that I liked when I used MIUI on my first EVO. It's not that I like the screens of cloned icons--yeah, that's boring. I just like how smooth everything works on iPhones and iPods--you can't deny it, it's buttery smooth! When designing user interfaces, it's often the little things that matter and Apple really seems to pay attention to that. I don't see the point of widgets, I get what they are but I don't find them useful enough to keep, like MIUI. The PANDORA widget works sometimes and I have to go into the app to remind it to play! LOL.
I'm not bashing Anrdroid or the EVO--I bought another one that I'd really like to keep. But I also appreciate what other manufacturers do. The EVO 4G LTE has fluidity in some ways especially when using Chrome--wow!
I Googled "EVO 4G LTE jelly bean" and found a bunch of posts at other android websites where some users expressed the EVO LTE might now get JB, too many to post.
Ok, thanks all for your replies--and yeah, I'll probably be rooting this phone if I keep it (probably will) just like all the other Androids I've rooted.
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Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
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I'm surprised you weren't, actually. iOS is like the worst curse word around here.
Not sure how you can compare android to ios... I'd rather have my og evo than iPhone5... facepalm... evo lte will see jellybean soon, og evo will see jb...
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Best phone
This phone kicks ass I left sgs2 and def not be looking for back I'm team evo 4g now
Amen to all that especially the ending haha
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I have both now; evo lte and sIII. My impressions so far is that the build quality is vastly superior on the HTC. I also prefer the HTC screen, for its natural look and cleaner whites. The Samsung is much more responsive and virtually lag free. Either one is great.
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Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
We're an Apple family (iPhones, iPods, MBPro, Mac Mini) and I'm the only Android user. What I mean by GUI is Apple's approach to simplicity and user fluidity. Those are all things that I liked when I used MIUI on my first EVO. It's not that I like the screens of cloned icons--yeah, that's boring. I just like how smooth everything works on iPhones and iPods--you can't deny it, it's buttery smooth! When designing user interfaces, it's often the little things that matter and Apple really seems to pay attention to that. I don't see the point of widgets, I get what they are but I don't find them useful enough to keep, like MIUI. The PANDORA widget works sometimes and I have to go into the app to remind it to play! LOL.
I'm not bashing Anrdroid or the EVO--I bought another one that I'd really like to keep. But I also appreciate what other manufacturers do. The EVO 4G LTE has fluidity in some ways especially when using Chrome--wow!
I Googled "EVO 4G LTE jelly bean" and found a bunch of posts at other android websites where some users expressed the EVO LTE might now get JB, too many to post.
Ok, thanks all for your replies--and yeah, I'll probably be rooting this phone if I keep it (probably will) just like all the other Androids I've rooted.
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please link some of these. otherwise its nothing but hogwash. you actually think a FLAGSHIP PHONE thats less than 2 months old wont get JB? Thats just crazy talk.
i googled " evo 4g lte jelly bean" and im 4 pages in. nothing about the phone NOT getting JB. You may be misreading or misunderstanding that people are saying they dont think the phone will get it ''this year'' or the phone wont get it until ''spring of next year'' But nowhere have I see it say ''no jellybean for the htc evo 4g lte'' so i do beg of you to post some links.
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please link some of these. otherwise its nothing but hogwash. you actually think a FLAGSHIP PHONE thats less than 2 months old wont get JB? Thats just crazy talk.
i googled " evo 4g lte jelly bean" and im 4 pages in. nothing about the phone NOT getting JB. You may be misreading or misunderstanding that people are saying they dont think the phone will get it ''this year'' or the phone wont get it until ''spring of next year'' But nowhere have I see it say ''no jellybean for the htc evo 4g lte'' so i do beg of you to post some links.
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I agree that it's crazy talk, but that's why I asked. I trust the opinions of the XDA community as its never let me down in the two years that I've been lurking and posting. I tried to find the one article that I read it on and now I can't find it. But that's ok... I believe the user may have been ranting about HTC+Sprint lagging on OTAs. Regardless, that's why I asked XDA.
LOL, it's looking less likely that I'm returning this device.
I have been an iPhone 4 user for about two years now, and am getting extremely bored with iOS. I just want more out of an OS!!
I have my upgrade coming in a few days and I have decided to go with the HTC Droid DNA, I saw the phone in a Verizon store and it looked/felt awesome!
I had my iPhone jailbroken whenever I could, and am definitely curious about unlocking/rooting/flashing and all the other terms used with an Android. I have been searching all over this forum and a few other sites to try to get familar with the whole process. It definitely seems alil overwhelming at this point, but I have learned alot form reading post and watching videos on here.
Look forward to learning more and if I can build up the courage, root this phone.
Thanks for everyones contributions and hardwork on this site, really is amazing. :good:
It is a bit different I had a galaxy nexus and man that was so damn easy to unlock root and flash whatever the hell I wanted. This is easy I got the hang of it in hours. Just keep reading up and looking at videos
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justice_beaver said:
I have been an iPhone 4 user for about two years now, and am getting extremely bored with iOS. I just want more out of an OS!!
I have my upgrade coming in a few days and I have decided to go with the HTC Droid DNA, I saw the phone in a Verizon store and it looked/felt awesome!
I had my iPhone jailbroken whenever I could, and am definitely curious about unlocking/rooting/flashing and all the other terms used with an Android. I have been searching all over this forum and a few other sites to try to get familar with the whole process. It definitely seems alil overwhelming at this point, but I have learned alot form reading post and watching videos on here.
Look forward to learning more and if I can build up the courage, root this phone.
Thanks for everyones contributions and hardwork on this site, really is amazing. :good:
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Just in case you get frustrated at first, it'll get slightly easier if/once we get s-off
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Just in case you get frustrated at first, it'll get slightly easier if/once we get s-off
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I have been seeing "s-off/s-on" in many different threads and was not able to figure out what that means. Care to share??
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I have been seeing "s-off/s-on" in many different threads and was not able to figure out what that means. Care to share??
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It stands for security on or off. If you are s off it makes your life so much easier, but you can still do many things with s on
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Gratz on getting an DNA, lot more customization than Ann iPhone, it's a decision you won't regret
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Welcome to Android.
And just a few words, if you care to consider:
DO NOT TRY TO ROOT IT IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST ANDROID MAIN DEVICE.
If it is a main device, don't try to root it at first. Enjoy something "out-of-box" first. And most importantly, give yourself some time to get familiar with all those fancy sometimes confusing terms before you actually get hands on and root the thing.
Many times folks gets too excited and jumped into the pool immediately only to find that they did not bring safety with them and brick their device.
It is a 600 USD device after all. Enjoy the out-of-box experience first!
Try to become a power user before getting to rooting/modding/theming stuff. The fun will be exponential. =)
jiwengang said:
Welcome to Android.
And just a few words, if you care to consider:
DO NOT TRY TO ROOT IT IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST ANDROID MAIN DEVICE.
If it is a main device, don't try to root it at first. Enjoy something "out-of-box" first. And most importantly, give yourself some time to get familiar with all those fancy sometimes confusing terms before you actually get hands on and root the thing.
Many times folks gets too excited and jumped into the pool immediately only to find that they did not bring safety with them and brick their device.
It is a 600 USD device after all. Enjoy the out-of-box experience first!
Try to become a power user before getting to rooting/modding/theming stuff. The fun will be exponential. =)
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Thanks for the advice, think I will go this route. I am definitely not comfortable yet trying to root/unlock. I will just enjoy the Android OS until I do some more research.
Thanks for your help!!
Yeah, honestly, Jelly Bean + Sense 4+ are great enough that if I were you, I'd get comfortable with the phone before rooting. Spend time going through all of the settings and figuring stuff out. You'll notice that even without root you'll have TONS more control than you did on your iPhone.
The Google Play store isn't as great as Apple's, but there are tons of really great apps out there. For example, I've been using Handcent SMS exclusively for sms/mms and I love it. You can customize the look and feel in that app in a way you never possibly could on an iPhone. I also highly recommend an alternate keyboard, my personal favorite is Swype. Just sliding my thumb to type makes life so easy. SMS Backup & Restore is another good one, especially once you root and start trying out custom ROMs.
Rooting will give you full system access, and so it'll allow for more powerful applications. For example, IMO the best reason to root is for recovery and backup. You can create full images of your phone (to restore if anything goes wrong) as well as backing up all your apps (with their data). Also, when rooted you can easily block all ads which is very nice.
S-off prevents writing to the system's memory (other than when connected to your computer via a developer terminal) so that holds back what you can really do in terms of custom ROMS and root apps.
a custom ROM is basically a modified operating system. Usually with new phones, the first ROMs you'll see are "debloated" or just the stock with unwanted parts removed. After that you'll start to see the developers really show off their skills and start customizing the look and feel, tweaking the performance, and writing new features. Sometimes you'll go as far as devs pushing newer versions of Android than are available from Verizon (like Liquid's ICS for the HTC Thunderbolt which still runs Gingerbread).
Oh, and if you're confused by all the food talk, Google names their Android released after Desserts alphabetically. We're currently on J (Jelly Bean 4.1,4.2), which follows Ice Cream Sandwhich (4.0), Honeycomb (3, for tablets) and Gingerbread (2.3).
This is a really helpful post man thanks. I I am a 2year iPhone 4 user as well. Always jailbroken, loved tweaking and the extra control it would give me. I had a Motorola Xoom FE TABLET with Honeycomb. I never played on it so I sold it. But I did like the Os, rooted my daughters DROID 3. But never got into anything besides that. I also looking forward to Rooting this and doing all sorts of tweaks.
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