Related
Does this beast come with oleophobic coating, or is it just the bare screen?
JD
According to Eldar it does have an oleophobic coating
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
open1your1eyes0 said:
You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
JD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
open1your1eyes0 said:
Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
rouvax said:
Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why there's voice control.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
I can honestly say that the standard for smartphone displays is decent enough that I definitly have a couple of priorities above the display that I wouldn't care how good the display is, if doesn't meet those priorities first, I don't want it. Key being carrier, cpu, ram, battery life, size/weight, brand/UI, then the display itself. Like I said, the standard for smartphones is good enough that it's not as important for me as long as a matte screen protector exists for the device (which is pretty much every smartphone). I have yet to meet a modern device display that I cannot tolerate under all conditions. And maybe its just me but I rarely find myself walking under direct sunlight. And even when I do, I try to avoid it (not because of my phone, just I have no joy in it XD).
Just my 2ยข
Funkym0nkey said:
Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, I think no matter what, I will be putting a screen protector on it. A company called "ScratchGuard" makes one that resists Oil and Fingerprints, maybe that might be the route, although it does reduce some of the screen's clarity.
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
Sent from my Captivate
Ive allways used a screen protector tbh but im thinking with this device i dont need 1 as its gorilla glass right? i do think screen protectors ruin a phone slightly but its protection, Does this device need a protector or will it be fine without 1?
looking to buy the device on launch day sim-free so would be ideal to buy a protector before if i do need 1,
coming from iphone 4 i allways had to use 1 and it did get annoying and before that the desire hd which i had to use also but that screen isnt made of gorilla glass is it?
MikeyMike01 said:
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
Sent from my Captivate
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have to. Cant take chances, I took one with Nexus S thanks to Oleophobic coating and kinda regretting it. I use lots of jeans. Many of them have those metal buttons / studs near pocket. I scratched my Nexus S a bit while taking it out of pocket when it scratched against that. Thankfully it was a micro scratch at the bottom and not on viewable area. Not to mention the bloody earrings of my lady friends and family members. My heart skips a beat when unprotected screen nears their ears
I wont take that chance again
But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
Uhm, and how can a screen protector ruin a phone?
Even if the phone features a gorilla glass, it doesn't guarantee it from being scratch-proof.
kwokwchoy said:
But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
JD
JupiterDroid said:
A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
JD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah your prob right
vimto25 said:
Yeah your prob right
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When i sold my nexus s it was the same condition as when i brought it out of the shop In the house i use a cover to protect the back leaving the front open, and when im out and about i use a sock...
Show your phone some love;P
JD
its very true.. my omnia HD has also gorilla glass and I have it for a year and a half now and it was NEVER scratched... XD I even play with it, taking coins and start scratching the screen... lol.. I also make fun of the screen saying even with a knife its not sure the screen will be scratched..
and I DONT have a screen protector.
Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
jje
Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Shylesh said:
Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
Pwgadget said:
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
Flowlance said:
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
Extreme184X said:
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
Satyakumar said:
Would you recommend some best brands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
Samsung Galaxy S II has been designed with Gorilla Glass?No need of Screen Guard?
I have seen 2 sites saying Samsung Galaxy S II has been designed with Gorilla Glass so I want to make sure. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-sii-gorilla-glass-confirmed-20110503/ Lost another site link.is that true?
Of course SGS II has Gorilla Glass. But I am still really confused that it will or will not need a screen protector! I really don't like them but I think it's better to have one rather than scratching that beautiful 4.27" screen. What do you guys think?
Thanks for putting that link up.
ithehappy said:
Of course SGS II has Gorilla Glass. But I am still really confused that it will or will not need a screen protector! I really don't like them but I think it's better to have one rather than scratching that beautiful 4.27" screen. What do you guys think?
Thanks for putting that link up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK Thanks and I think it is 100% better getting a screen Protector for safety.It is better to get a Rs.100-500 screen guard instead of spending money on a screen after getting scratch on the screen.I am using 1 already and kept 1 as spare
Scratches WILL occur on gorilla glass, but they are less likely to be seenwhen compared to other screens.
So buy a screen protector.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Raviteja_HYD said:
OK Thanks and I think it is 100% better getting a screen Protector for safety.It is better to get a Rs.100-500 screen guard instead of spending money on a screen after getting scratch on the screen.I am using 1 already and kept 1 as spare
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm..I already ordered the 2nd one from Scratchgard.in, Rs.499, so it's costly, still I've read a lot of users posting that they didn't use any screen protector for more than one year wit GG and also they used it roughly, still no scratches on it. Yes I know Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant but not proof.
I'd like some users to post here who are not using any protective screen and post feedback here, if there is any scratches appearing or not.
Regards.
ithehappy said:
I'd like some users to post here who are not using any protective screen and post feedback here, if there is any scratches appearing or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's already a LOT of threads talking about this exact topic. Yes, gorilla glass is tougher than your average glass, but it's not scratch-proof, so I personally don't see the point in taking the risk. Gorilla glass can and will get scratched.
Get a screen protector and never have to worry about scratches, or don't get one and always worry.
Guys i can highly recommend getting this screen protector you really cannot tell that you even have a protecter on your screen,after paying all that money for this phone im not taking any chances.
top service and fast delivery too...
http://cgi.ebay.ie/SGP-Ultra-Oleoph...292190?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0ab0b3de
I have had my nexus one for about a year and it has a Gorilla Glass screen. I don't have a screen protector on and I have dropped it several times on asphalt and other surfaces and I don't have any scratches on my screen. I am waiting for the SGS2 to come out on sprint (hopefully) and I won't be bothering with a screen protector.
Thanks, but late for me, my bad.
atomb said:
I have had my nexus one for about a year and it has a Gorilla Glass screen. I don't have a screen protector on and I have dropped it several times on asphalt and other surfaces and I don't have any scratches on my screen. I am waiting for the SGS2 to come out on sprint (hopefully) and I won't be bothering with a screen protector.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good for you but id be more "better to be safe than sorry" and for a few quid for a screen protector like the Ultra Olephobic which you wouldn't even notice it was on i believe it's definitely worth getting.
Does the SGP ultra... have problems with air bubbles or orange skin?
I tried a couple of screen protectors with both nexus s and gs2 and I think I'm more bothered by bubbles and orange skin then scratches
I read in quite a few posts about light scratches, most probably due to the anti-fingerprint coating on the glass. But I wont get a screen protector. In the WM times with resistive screens you had to get one because the screens could get scratches with just your fingernail or the stylus, but they all (even the expensive ones) looked bad. So on my HD2 I didn't bother with a screen protector and don't regret it because after over 1,5 years of intensive use (otherwise it was in my pocket or on the stone floor besides my bed) without any cases or screen protectors, my HD2 doesn't even have one single scratch (and I mean the whole device). I just had to remove the paint of the battery cover because it came off on the edges where I hold it, but I would have done that anyway because it looks better, as you can see in this thread. I hope my SGS2 proves to be as good as my HD2.
jonny68 said:
top service and fast delivery too...
http://cgi.ebay.ie/SGP-Ultra-Oleoph...292190?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0ab0b3de
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for sharing this link, I have never used a sp until now and no scratches, but I will make sure to get one, just to be on the safe side
GTi9100-xdaPremiumApp
namelok said:
Does the SGP ultra... have problems with air bubbles or orange skin?
I tried a couple of screen protectors with both nexus s and gs2 and I think I'm more bothered by bubbles and orange skin then scratches
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it doesn't, honestly i can barely tell mine is on it really is that good just take time to apply it properly there are videos on XDA which are useful regarding this, i did read reviews beforehand and most were favourable but after applying it i really am impressed with it, scrolling is still as smooth as ever,sure you'll get fingerprints and smudge marks but you'd get that on the screen anyway just wipe it off.
maranello69 said:
thanks for sharing this link, I have never used a sp until now and no scratches, but I will make sure to get one, just to be on the safe side
GTi9100-xdaPremiumApp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem by the way i seen your signature "can you help"
this might be of some interest to you if you haven't seen it already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
Even though it says that the screen is scratch resistant, I wouldn't take the chance. When I got my SGSII, I went ahead and searched for a pouch and a screen protector. Money well spent!
I have it from 1 month ago, without any protector a no scratches. I transport my SGS2 in my pocket always.
For those of you who say that they aren't worried about their phone scratching because its always in their pocket, I would still recommend you getting one, purely because of the fact that Gorilla Glass is vulnerable to SAND and DUST. Sand particles have a very high hardness rating exceeding that of Gorilla glass, so it will carve up your pretty little phone without a care in the world. Simply wiping the screen cover with a cloth that has a particle of sand on it, can scratch the screen, not to mention the original oleophobic coating Samsung put over the Gorilla Glass, which itself is very vulnerable.
I can also vouch for the SGP Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protector. Hands down the best balance of everything a screen protector should have. I've used some no name brands, the Zagg ones as well as the SGP Ultra Crystal one before, and none can compare.
The SGP Ultra Oleophobic beats the Ultra Crystal hands-down simply because it repels oil much better, and can be cleaned with one wipe of a shirt or cloth. On the other hand, the ultra crystal clings to fingerprints and oil like a fat kid to a candy bar.
Both however, exhibit zero rainbow effects, air bubbles or orange peel effects. For about 30 minutes after putting the oleophobic one on, there is a bit of rubbery/slightly sticky feeling on the protector, but it goes away after some use or a bit of cleaning with a microfibre cloth. I'd also recommend not applying the protector on vertically, from speaker to microphone, but rather, from left to right. It is MUCH easier to align this way, and much easier to retry if you messed up the first time.
I've had many people who've played with my phone ask me why I don't bother putting on a screen protector, and when I tell them to look again, they are genuinely surprised they didn't realize it was there.
TL;DR: get a screen protector, because sand (which is actually harder than gorilla glass) and dust can and WILL scratch your screen eventually. also, SGP Ultra Oleophobic beats everything else hands down.
I think Sammy will send the gorilla glass as OTA update when Android Weedcake 2.5.5 hits the market sometime in the distant future.
Sent from my CM7 powered SGS2
well well well talk about fate,there is a scratch on the screen and i only put the ultra olephobic screen protector on yesterday initially i thought it was a hair but it's a very small scratch so im even more pleased now i had this on otherwise id have a scratch, thankfully you get 2 screen protectors so i can just replace this one.
I've just bought a used (UK) S2 on eBay, and am wondering whether I should bother with a screen protector for it. From other posts it seems that there are mixed opinions on the effectiveness of Gorilla glass for preventing scratches (particularly from sand), so I wondered how many people bother with a screen protector?
As per previous replies to the question .
Always as Gorilla Glass can get scratched and proof is in the scratched protector but not the screen .
jje
Gorilla Glass...has got that real nice feel to it...hence no protectors...after 2 months of usages no scratches...just got a coloured frontal screen protector on today though...solely for the visual aspects...rather than protections but nice never the less.
I use protectors as sand will scratch G glass. I will give G glass credit though... It is a hell of a lot more scratch resistant than standard screen coatings.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
I don't. I also don't like how the glass feels. But that's because I love my iPod's screen, just how it feels.
prodygee said:
I don't. I also don't like how the glass feels. But that's because I love my iPod's screen, just how it feels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
a layer of film never hurts. at least something gets in the way before it scratches the actual glass screen.
Definately add a screen protector!
I use PhantomSkinz
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
Lots of people have complained that after using a screen protector the phone is no longer responding to touches very well (this can be fixed with a root app though).
There is no real need at all for the screen to have a protector, it is the toughest glass around and there are plenty of videos on youtube of people taking hunting knifes and other sharp objects to their screen with no visible marks being left. Sure it will shatter if it lands on a sharp point but it is not the sort of glass that scratches easily like other phones, removing the need for a screen protector.
Plus the glass is fairly smudge resistant and very smooth to touch.
I fail to see a need.
3 months w/o a screen protector and there isn't a single scratch on my device.
I had a Nexus One with no case for 17 months, which I predominantly kept in my trouser pocket. Not one single scratch on the glass but had various nicks and dents in the metal frame. Have had my gs2 for about 3 months and already have four big scratches on the screen. So my advice, but a protector.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
W0lfd said:
3 months w/o a screen protector and there isn't a single scratch on my device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2 months here, zero scratches.
Start using it without any protector. Trust and experience the good feel of the Gorilla Glass. And by any chance if you see any slightest roughness (rare though) appearing... apply a protector.
anisbombaywala said:
...And by any chance if you see any slightest roughness (rare though) appearing... apply a protector.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if that happens, u are too late already.
that's why u should at least use a protector, to at least prevent that
3 months no protection but im still paronoid i think i need on so whats the best one on the market
I have the SGP Glas just for those crazy moments when something goes wrong. Already busted a Ultra Crystal screen protector with a bad scratch.
Always use protection. Even if it turns out to be a waste, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
poloboogie said:
3 months no protection but im still paronoid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You've had a white S2 for 3 months?
I use a screen protector and my screen is responsive and have no probs at all. good idea to use i think
I like the gorilla glass but it does seem to be a fingerprint magnet... At least with a screen protector it doesn't pick up those damn fingerprints...
My opinion is that anything that can put a scratch on gorilla glass will have no trouble cutting through a VERY thin layer of film you have applied on top of the gorilla glass making it's 'protection' void.
However, I'm still too paranoid not to use a protector.... :S
I suggest to use one.. I have no problem with touch sensitivity problem.. Better safe than sorry..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Oh god better find a screen protector fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
That's just really sad...
It makes sense because it's more shatter resistant but more soft. Screen protector it is...
Sent from my Blackberry Bold
I just ordered some screen protectors. I planned on going naked but screw that! I'm very disappointed to see how easily it scratches. I swore I read something that GG said the scratch resistance was the same as GG 4. REALLY messed up!
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol what a dumb comment
Sent from my Blackberry Bold
Pointro said:
What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus 6P is nowhere near as flimsy as he made it appear - a lot of people were very doubtful.
Also, with this one, how was the IMEI sticker removed already yet all the plastic was still on the phone? You even saw the residue where the sticker was!
(and no, don't use the "he put all the plastic back on the phone" excuse. No way would you get it back on that perfect).
Yeah, I'm skeptical, but that's my own opinion. I also don't put a lot of faith into drop tests, as each case is different. I've also been one to take very good care of my phones, and don't generally use screen protectors. No real scratches either!
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 10:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 PM ----------
Brava27 said:
Lol what a dumb comment
Sent from my Blackberry Bold
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh boo hoo - someone doesn't agree with your opinion. Not like I give a damn.
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And the 6P did not bend? My bent after some weeks of normal use
Looks like i will have to use a full body skin.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The biggest cause of scratches is not keys or scissors or razor blades.
It's the simple elements of our earth that do the damage, namely Sand and Grit.
It only takes a particle of sand or grit to come into contact with the screen, add the element of friction and that causes the vast majority of all scratches.
No matter how this is spun, poorer scratch resistance is not good especially considering this is a device designed to have constant friction on its surface with the stylus.
Zolares said:
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
BarryH_GEG said:
A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I believe it was the first time that they have released an official screen protector. So they already know.
Zolares said:
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flexibility (shatter resistance) and hardness (scratch resistance) are mutually exclusive. Maybe some kind of formulation of glass or a different material at some point will help, but honestly I don't think a solution to both of these issues at the same time will come any time soon.
I have never shattered a phone screen and I use minimal cases to protect against scratching. I have had a bad drop or two over the years, but the phone has always survived. I'd take scratch resistance any day of the week.
Film protectors suck ass. They offer no oleophobic properties, gunk up, and feel like **** compared to glass. I will never use of these. I even dislike glass protectors, because if you get a single spec of dirt under them during application or misalign it, might as well throw it in the trash if you have OCD because you're never going to get over it. Plus you add another layer between you and the pixels which is never good for image quality sake. Samsung did a great job with this display and the glass in front of it (e.g. lowest reflectance ever). Putting some cheap ass protector over it, even glass, will be detrimental. Also, good luck finding a decent glass protector that works with the curves. Samsung is probably going to be the absolute best option, so I would skip everything else and just buy that and pray you get the install perfect because knowing Samsung it won't be cheap.
BarryH_GEG said:
A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where did you order them from, Samsung's own site? I did a search but can't get to an actual product page for it.
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
EXACTLY. If you shove this in your front pocket with keys and the rest or in a purse with a bunch of crap then I don't feel sorry. I've never scratched a screen, shattered a screen or any of the crap I see. Maybe I'm too AR to let this happen. IDK.
I really hate screen protectors! Although I haven't tried tempered type. To me they degrade viewing . Really irks me that you pay a premium to get a great screen that easily scratches and takes away from the experience .
I'm still gonna try it out, but may be my last samsung if that becomes the new norm.
Having owned the Note 1, Note 2, Galaxy S4 (terrible), I moved to Nexus/Apple and did not want to buy Samsung ever again. I went against myself and pre-ordered the Note 7 thinking maybe this would be a perfect phone for an old man. This video made me cancel the pre-order, I will wait for the next Nexus or iPhone.