Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
blizeH said:
Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
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with es task manager you can enable and disable start up apps or running apps. this helped me from time to time. good luck
Use Greenify and Autostarts
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
blizeH said:
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
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Free does not mean best but try it .
jje
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Hi
I'm currently having problem with apps they are auto opening themselves.
Sometimes at startup when I open my open and use Helix/ADW all launcher manu apps are open automatically. It eats like 50MB of memory and battery.
And even while my screen turns off it opens app. I was sleeping and my screen is turn off/sleep and I check task panel it got apps open even the screen is lock.
Got No Idea on this. Why my apps are auto opening.
And do I need to debrand?
I just got a unit Unlocked
X10i
Baseband 1.0.14
Build Number R1FA014
Kernel 2.6.29-rel [email protected]#2
Do I really need to debrand?
Does it reset my phone and my settings/apps will be deleted?
TIA
It's not the X10, it's an Android thing.
Then how to get rid of this auto opening app? I never exp. this on 1.5 and 2.1 on my HTC Hero just on this 1.6
Get Automatic Task Killer or something similar, and set it to kill apps on open...if you find the apps opening affects your performance.
Also, if they're apps that sync with a service, make sure all syncing is off, or they'll keep coming up anyway, to try to sync with the cloud.
as a personal anecdote, once I stopped using task killers, the phone started running more stable and quicker.
So Task killers are not good?
I check my Task Panel once i boot my phone tons of APPS are open
Like Bluetooth file transfer
SMS Backup and Restore
Email
Alarm Clock
Calender
Settings Voice Dialer
It opens on startup.
seriously I just boot up my phone and use ADW Launcher and those open up automatically? what does those do? for startup? there are tons more like 25 apps on startup. This thing is not good since I'll do task killing always even the phone is screen off. My phone is opening Voice Dialer Handsent SMS even though i dont have message or calls received.
It's like every min or hour I'll do task killing it kills battery
Well, Alarm Clock has to be on, so it knows when to go off... If you don't have any alarms set, delete all the alarms that are in it.
Email is on by default, since it's a smart phone. If you don't have an account set up, email won't sync, and thus, isn't really doing anything. Calendar will attempt to sync with google if you set it up, but if not, again, shouldn't be doing anything. SMS will start to monitor for incoming SMSes. A lot of services start so they're there when you try to start them up. Basically, anything that has to sync to the internet to update will start automatically.
If things like Photoshop Mobile or a game or something start up, those should be killed.
Stand alone apps that don't access the internet should have no business starting up on their own.
Some people on here claim task killers are great and help a lot... some claim they do nothing. I'm torn, because the phone feels a bit faster than when I used the task killer everytime I unlocked the phone. If your phone is new, cycle the battery a few times, and let it 'break in' and, eventually, the battery life should improve.
Thanks. I'm just a little bit worried that I'm not aware that there are many task opening with me noticing or knowing it and use much battery as I do.
Some apps open automatically
I know that apps auto close ok , here's its invers..
Any how use some task killers frequently to kill them....
Or just unistall them
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Can somebody help me? I am running my xperia x8 and as i know since i rooted and got myself new rom i was wondering why my games work slow but after a little research i found out that official Facebook app is working in background so i unninstaled but now my question is is there someone who has some facebook app non-official which i can run without the problems?
PS: Sorry if spam on this thread but i cant make new threads on this app (or i can but i cannot figure it out)
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gr3yh0und said:
Thanks. I'm just a little bit worried that I'm not aware that there are many task opening with me noticing or knowing it and use much battery as I do.
Some apps open automatically
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Android works by loading EVERYTHING it can into memory, up to a threshold and then removes apps from memory if they're not being used and memory is required for newly initiated applications.
Some apps have a terminate and stay resident approach and are seen as 'services' and they just stay active no matter what. Email, Calendars and status bar and etc never leave memory cause they're all waiting for there big moment, an email, an appointment, a finger touch etc.
Using a task killer doesn't really do anything, cause as soon as you 'kill' the process and the moment there is available memory again the process will just return to active/inactive memory because that's the way Android memory processing works.
If you have root access you can delete/freeze system apps you don't require.
A 'slim' Android v2.3 ROM shouldn't have more than approx 110 system apps. Less that 95 if you're good.
gr3yh0und said:
I check my Task Panel once i boot my phone tons of APPS are open
Like Bluetooth file transfer
SMS Backup and Restore
Email
Alarm Clock
Calender
Settings Voice Dialer​
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Most of the apps you listed are system apps and will, by their nature find there way into memory all the time. That's just how it is.
After a few hours of use many of the non-used apps will drop out of memory and others will take their place.
Loading applications into memory has a time and processing cost and so if it's already in memory, it's quicker to access.
However the Android system doesn't know your usage traits at start-up and that's why some less used system applications may be seem in memory until they're weeded out by those you do use. Again, nothing to worry about,
Using an XPERIA X10i with ~384MB of memory leaves little room for bloatware and thus a lean running machine is the order of the day for the XPERIA X10i.
So I downloaded the free version of system panel just to get an idea of whats running on my phone, since the default task manager isn't too accurate.
after a restart i have a bunch of random things. for example, calendar storage (dont use the calendar at all), maps (i havent opened it yet), media hub (never use this), Messaging (i use handscent).
i remember how i used to have an app killer to end these things but from what i've learned most people believe app killers waste more battery than they save? and that at this point android is good on ending processes on it's own?
how come these random things are running?
basically i wanna save battery life. i use SuperPower but it's kinda annoying tbh. data disable when screen off = gotta keep my screen on for market to update apps, fb chat to keep running/stay online, etc.
any suggestions?
darkness122 said:
So I downloaded the free version of system panel just to get an idea of whats running on my phone, since the default task manager isn't too accurate.
after a restart i have a bunch of random things. for example, calendar storage (dont use the calendar at all), maps (i havent opened it yet), media hub (never use this), Messaging (i use handscent).
i remember how i used to have an app killer to end these things but from what i've learned most people believe app killers waste more battery than they save? and that at this point android is good on ending processes on it's own?
how come these random things are running?
basically i wanna save battery life. i use SuperPower but it's kinda annoying tbh. data disable when screen off = gotta keep my screen on for market to update apps, fb chat to keep running/stay online, etc.
any suggestions?
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Don't use Super Power, I've come to realize that was a much larger hassle than the benefits it made. If you have Titanium Backup Pro freeze all apps you never use, like Media Hub and other Samsung apps. And things like Calander Storage don't worry about, I'm sure it's nothing that's draining your battery.
And also, task killers DO drain more battery than they save, assuming you're on a froyo 2.2 based rom. And if you want turn off Auto Sync in settings and this will save some battery. Otherwise, your battery life should be pretty solid.
bobbbb said:
Don't use Super Power, I've come to realize that was a much larger hassle than the benefits it made. If you have Titanium Backup Pro freeze all apps you never use, like Media Hub and other Samsung apps. And things like Calander Storage don't worry about, I'm sure it's nothing that's draining your battery.
And also, task killers DO drain more battery than they save, assuming you're on a froyo 2.2 based rom. And if you want turn off Auto Sync in settings and this will save some battery. Otherwise, your battery life should be pretty solid.
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thanks man, i got rid of superpower and will see how much it truely effected my battery life.
as for titanium backup, i don't have pro but i guess i will buy it if there aren't any free alternatives to freeze apps?
thanks man
Hi all,
I just got my Transformer Prime this week, and as a new user both of Android (my phone is a WP7 device) and of tablets in general, I do have a couple of questions that maybe you guys can help me with...
1) Shut it down or not?
Being a tablet something in between my phone and my laptop, I'm still not sure exactly how to manage it. I know this will come with experience, but do you guys leave it always on like your phone or do you shut down like a laptop? I actually only hibernate my laptop, but I don't know how to do that on my TP... is it possible?
2) Services: my battery and OS responsiveness
OK, so I got my TP and started downloading apps... Skype and Facebook were one of the firsts. I quickly realized that, by default, after opening them for the 1st time, they kept giving me notifications, even if I swiped them left of the task manager (i.e. closed them, AFAIK). This is OK for Skype, but I really don't want Facebook bothering me that much, so I disabled notifications on its settings. Is that all that is needed to remove these permanent services? Does the "services" tab under Settings -> Applications really show everything that is running or can some apps hide from there?
3) Closing apps: should I care about it or not?
I still didn't fully understand how "closing apps" work on Android (ICS at least). If I have an app with notifications enabled (i.e. its service is enabled, right?), even if I close it from the task manager, the notifications keep coming. However, if notifications are disabled, is swiping them left from the task manager REALLY closing them? At the end of the day, to improve battery and responsiveness, should I keep closing my unused apps?
4) Launcher: Is ICS launcher the best for tablets?
This is actually part of a more general question, coming below. But anyway, I read that the ICS launcher is much improved from previous Android versions, and at the same time I didn't find a good launcher comparison for tablets only. Many of the launchers reviews only apply them for phones, and only compare them to the Gingerbread launcher (or some device-specific launcher). Since many of the launchers are paid apps, I would like to know: is there any launcher that is really worth trying in my new TP? What do you guys use?
5) Tablet-optimized apps???
I don't have my TP for even a week and I'm already tired of reading great things about an app, only to download it and see that it is not optimized for tablets at all. So, is there any good source of info/reviews on tablet-optimized apps?
Many thanks!
Leo.
1) Shut it down or not?
Personally, I always leave mine tablet running. There is a price to pay from a battery perspective when shutting down / starting up, so unless you know you are not going to be using it for an extended period of time, I would recommend leaving it on.
2) Services: my battery and OS responsiveness
I believe the 'Services' tab will show all the user app services that are running, but I am not sure if you can permanently prevent them from starting back up with ICS. I have seen task manager apps in the market that can prevent services from starting up. In all reality though, if you are concerned about background services draining your battery, the Prime has excellent battery life to begin with, especially if you have the dock, so if I was you I wouldn't get too worked up over the background services. Now if we were talking about a smart phone here (like my Thunderbolt for example which has horrible battery life), I would be much more concerned about this type of thing as I would want to do anything possible to squeeze as much life out of my battery just to get through an entire day.
3) Closing apps: should I care about it or not?
From my understanding swiping an app on the Recent Apps tray won't actually kill the process. Swiping an app from the Recent Apps tray more or less just removes the app from the list of Recent Apps. ICS automatically takes care of shutting down processes and releasing memory when appropriate. If you want to manually kill an app you can Force Close it from the list of apps from the Settings -> Applications menu. But again, my personal preference is to let ICS do its thing and take care of process management. I will remove apps from the Recent Apps tray just keep the tray less cluttered with apps that I don't use or need to switch to that often but I normally won't kill apps manually from the task manager.
On a side note, I would think removing an app from the Recent Apps tray would signal the OS that I am not going to be using the app again any time soon and the OS is free to shut down the process and release its memory, but I am not sure if this is what happens or not. All I know is that I have read elsewhere that removing an app from the Recent Apps tray will not immediately kill the process.
4) Launcher: Is ICS launcher the best for tablets?
Personally, I really like ICS so I haven't tried any of the other launchers that are out there (on the tablet side of things anyways). I used the GO Launcher on my phone for a little while but ended up switching back to the default HTC Sense launcher. This is one of the things I love about Android though; the ability to totally change the look and feel the device by simply customizing and switching between different launchers. If I ever get tired or bored with ICS, I can download a new launcher and just like that, everything will seem new and fresh again.
5) Tablet-optimized apps???
This is one of the big problems with Android and the Android Market right now; not just the small selection of tablet optimized apps but being able to find these apps in the Market. There is an 'editors top picks for tablet apps' section or something like that in the Android Market that I have used. Unfortunately, many of the apps in there are not that great, but at least they are optimized for tablets. Typically I will just do a google search for 'top android tablet apps' to get a feel for some of the best tablet optimized apps that are out there.
Try the Tablified website or app to find tablet optimized apps. Can't download directly from there, but the install link will take you to the market page for whatever app you want.
http://www.tablified.com
jordache16 said:
1) Shut it down or not?
Personally, I always leave mine tablet running. There is a price to pay from a battery perspective when shutting down / starting up, so unless you know you are not going to be using it for an extended period of time, I would recommend leaving it on.
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First of all, thanks for taking the time to reply me! Anyway, my point was exactly about the times when I will not use it for an extented period, like when I go to bed or something... But I guess since I don't want any notifications when I'm sleeping, I think it is wiser to shut it down. On the other hand, is there a quick-way to completely silence the tablet, i.e. turn off the volume AND the vibrations?
jordache16 said:
2) Services: my battery and OS responsiveness
I believe the 'Services' tab will show all the user app services that are running, but I am not sure if you can permanently prevent them from starting back up with ICS. I have seen task manager apps in the market that can prevent services from starting up. In all reality though, if you are concerned about background services draining your battery, the Prime has excellent battery life to begin with, especially if you have the dock, so if I was you I wouldn't get too worked up over the background services. Now if we were talking about a smart phone here (like my Thunderbolt for example which has horrible battery life), I would be much more concerned about this type of thing as I would want to do anything possible to squeeze as much life out of my battery just to get through an entire day.
3) Closing apps: should I care about it or not?
From my understanding swiping an app on the Recent Apps tray won't actually kill the process. Swiping an app from the Recent Apps tray more or less just removes the app from the list of Recent Apps. ICS automatically takes care of shutting down processes and releasing memory when appropriate. If you want to manually kill an app you can Force Close it from the list of apps from the Settings -> Applications menu. But again, my personal preference is to let ICS do its thing and take care of process management. I will remove apps from the Recent Apps tray just keep the tray less cluttered with apps that I don't use or need to switch to that often but I normally won't kill apps manually from the task manager.
On a side note, I would think removing an app from the Recent Apps tray would signal the OS that I am not going to be using the app again any time soon and the OS is free to shut down the process and release its memory, but I am not sure if this is what happens or not. All I know is that I have read elsewhere that removing an app from the Recent Apps tray will not immediately kill the process.
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Hum, ok, I will try to freak out less about open apps. What's still bugs me, for instance, is the behavior of Google Talk vs. Skype. After turning the tablet on, Skype doesn't open automatically, and after I open it, it will gracefully inform-me of its status on the notifications bar. However, today I just got surprised by a incoming IM from Google Talk, even if I did'nt open it! I realized that it is hidden under "Google Services" in the app list, but there is no setting in the app to disable it from running on start-up! I can only "sign out"... Anyway, on the other hand, there's no setting to have Skype launch automatically on start up...
jordache16 said:
4) Launcher: Is ICS launcher the best for tablets?
Personally, I really like ICS so I haven't tried any of the other launchers that are out there (on the tablet side of things anyways). I used the GO Launcher on my phone for a little while but ended up switching back to the default HTC Sense launcher. This is one of the things I love about Android though; the ability to totally change the look and feel the device by simply customizing and switching between different launchers. If I ever get tired or bored with ICS, I can download a new launcher and just like that, everything will seem new and fresh again.
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I'll second that. I've quickly used the Iphone 4 a couple of times and its dullness just bores me to death... hehe
jordache16 said:
5) Tablet-optimized apps???
This is one of the big problems with Android and the Android Market right now; not just the small selection of tablet optimized apps but being able to find these apps in the Market. There is an 'editors top picks for tablet apps' section or something like that in the Android Market that I have used. Unfortunately, many of the apps in there are not that great, but at least they are optimized for tablets. Typically I will just do a google search for 'top android tablet apps' to get a feel for some of the best tablet optimized apps that are out there.
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Yeah, I saw that, but I hate that I cannot filter that list between apps and games... stupid Google or stupid me? hehe
wikedawsum said:
Try the Tablified website or app to find tablet optimized apps. Can't download directly from there, but the install link will take you to the market page for whatever app you want.
http://www.tablified.com
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Thanks for the tip! I'm cheking it out right now...
reguarding open apps
At times i noticed my stock launcher was laggy to switch between screens. After swiping to close the recent apps it was a lot more responsive, so i think that swiping the apps from the recent list does close them, at least in mose cases.
As to optimization apps, usually they are intended for phones running older software. You need to remember that every phone (aside from the google phones) is running a slightly different version of android.
Since each version of android is different, even between the Froyo on my phone and your phone, because they have different modifications on them there is a chance that the customized software on my phone may be better at handling unused tasks than your phone (in fact HTC phones by default have a LOT of running processes in the background, whereas Samsung phones generally have fewer).
A lot of these optimization apps do several things:
Turn off wifi and bluetooth when not needed
Close tasks when they are unused
lower screen brightness
turn off 3g and use 2g if available and not in a call
Now this may be excellent for your phone, it spends most of its time in your pocket, soon as you unlock it it can connect to wifi again, turn on bluetooth, etc.
HOWEVER!
If you have, say, the weather widget, or a clock, or in my case battery monitor pro, and the task killer is killing those tasks those widgets will no longer update.
Some tasks, like Maps, tend to start up automatically, meaning your wasting MORE battery life closing this app and then it restarts and you have to close it again. It takes less battery life having it run in the background.
Sometimes an app will close (like the browser) that your not fully done using. Theres a difference between the app being frozen in memory and fully closed. Both do not require much power, however when you open that process again the frozen one takes a LOT less battery than the unfrozen one.
On a tablet, having a case that has a magnet in the apropriate spot and, say, tasker (very good app for custimizing your own triggers to turn things on and off) to detect that sensor and shut off wifi, gps, bluetooth, etc. would be very cool. Many apps use the proximity sensor to detect if its in a pocket and shut off everything, or the lockscreen. Because the way a tablet is used many of these battery saver apps will actually use more battery than what would be used in the first place.
You also have to remember that as android advances there are more tweaks for battery life put into them. For instance, you can have ICS close tasks that are not being used right away to save memory and its pretty good about freezing things in background memory.
Older versions of android lacked these features, or they were poorly implimented. I remember on my vibrant i was always going back to make sure all my tasks were closed properly when i was done with them. With newer devices its not an issue android takes care of that for me.
TLDR: Try as many battery saver apps as you like, just be warey as to what devices they are designed for and what version of android they were made for. Doesnt mean they wont work, just means they may do something thats useless for using on a tablet.
1) Shut it down or not?
Never. We got the companion core for a reason.
2) Services: my battery and OS responsiveness
No, everything is shown except core processes. You can get systempanel if you want to see.
3) Closing apps: should I care about it or not?
Don't unless you somehow got froyo or eclair onto your tablet.
4) Launcher: Is ICS launcher the best for tablets?
Depends on your tastes. I would suggest trying all of them.
5) Tablet-optimized apps???
What the other people said.
1) Mine is always on. I shut down when I expect it to be idle for a long time or when I want maximum battery conservation while idle. Pressing the power button is as close as you get to hibernate, officially with Android. I'm interested to know if any of the usual Linux power management stuff applies to these systems or if it's tied to ACPI (A PC thing), and if there would be a way to wake the system. It's certainly not supported by ASUS .
2) Google how Android services work and about the application life cycle. For the most part things like Facebook don't do all that much harm, unless it is dealing with a lot of data. If you do not want it to run and the application lacks a setting for turning the service off, uninstall the app. A startup manager may or may not be able to help but be warned: auto task killers are generally bad, you would actually want to manage the startup services not auto kill them!
3) No. Android will take care of this OK. Closing apps generally refers to the "Activity" not the service. Android has taken decent care of that since at least version 2.2 and this tablet runs 4.0.3 . Swipping stuff out of the multi-task menu is most useful for keeping it tidy, it will not generally improve your life in most cases. For a good explanation you should look for a post Dianne Hackborn reshared on G+, I believe Android Police even carried it.
4) Depends on what is best for you. It's great except for the lack of customization. Nova Launcher offers a bit more. ICS's launcher versus e.g. GB's is almost what could be called a basic custom launcher, i.e. all the important stuff is there but you can't tweak the hell out of it. For more serious work try ADW Launcher Ex (scrolling widgets currently broken) or Go (not quite fully tablet optimized yet but works). I use ADW Launcher Ex, and there is a free version with less features.
5) Tablified Market and XDA usually helps I guess. I rarely have problems except with rarely updated stuff.
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Hello!
I installed ES task manager today on my new Nexus 7 and I was shocked to see that several apps are consuming 20mb+ of RAM when I don't even have them open, such as Titanium Backup, Facebook Messenger, PIE Controls, Auto Hide Softkeys. Even apps like YouTube, Gallery, Chrome, Currents and Hangouts seem to be running and using RAM and I have never opened any of these applications before. The actual app switcher shows that I have no apps open, yet ES Task Manager reports that 25% of my CPU is being used. All in all, an almost fresh install of Android idling is consuming 1GB of ram and 1/4th of my CPU time.
I have Googled this issue and discovered that many people are annoyed at developers who have background services, and sometimes even refuse to use an app that has such background services, but I haven't been able to discover why these background services use so much RAM (or even why titanium needs a background service), and I would really like to be able to just kill Chrome, Youtube, Currents etc because I never use these, but of course when I kill them in ES Task Manager they re-open within several minutes.
Can anybody shed some light on what's going on here? From what I can gather after searching around the forums, some people advocate the use of task killers, and some people also say killing all these services and apps just makes battery life even worse.
Edit: google+ is using 20mb of ram and I never even use it-- why!
If you are rooted you can use apps like Greenify to pause them temporarily until you run them. You can also use apps like Clean Master that will kill all task on every screen off. Ultimately you can remove these apps that are taking up a lot of ram as the best solution.
youngnex said:
If you are rooted you can use apps like Greenify to pause them temporarily until you run them. You can also use apps like Clean Master that will kill all task on every screen off. Ultimately you can remove these apps that are taking up a lot of ram as the best solution.
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Wow, didn't know something like greenify existed, thank you!
I'm running OS 4.5.5 and my my performance slows Way down after about a day and a half. At first, I thought it may have been the launcher but I started using GQ launcher about a month ago and it still get sluggish. I ran Clean Master on it for a while so every time I shut it down, CA would clean up the RAM. This helped a little but it would still get sluggish after a few days. So I wound up removing it. The booster widget for GQ says my "normal" RAM usage is 70-80% which seems really high to me. The sluggishness starts when I get above 80%. After a reboot, I'm normally sitting around 45%. I'm not using any high performance apps. I mostly use my tablet for email, Facebook, and the like. Any ideas? I keep hoping OS 5 will get released and solve my problems.
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I'm running OS 4.5.5 and my my performance slows Way down after about a day and a half. At first, I thought it may have been the launcher but I started using GQ launcher about a month ago and it still get sluggish. I ran Clean Master on it for a while so every time I shut it down, CA would clean up the RAM. This helped a little but it would still get sluggish after a few days. So I wound up removing it. The booster widget for GQ says my "normal" RAM usage is 70-80% which seems really high to me. The sluggishness starts when I get above 80%. After a reboot, I'm normally sitting around 45%. I'm not using any high performance apps. I mostly use my tablet for email, Facebook, and the like. Any ideas? I keep hoping OS 5 will get released and solve my problems.
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On higher end phones/tabs sluggish performance is typically due to excessive background tasks. Memory swapping is less of an issue due given the overall speed of the device. 70-80% (even 90%) memory utilization is not excessive as much of that reflects cached tasks that do not need to be reloaded from permanent storage when recalled. Android will swap them out (oldest first) if memory is needed.
Unfortunately, you can't see everything running on 4.5.5 as it can not be rooted. FireOS in general and Amazon apps in particular tend to launch multiple processes when you activate one app in a 'suite'. For example, launching the Amazon shopping app also starts Kindle reader, instant video, Amazon music and parental controls. Those apps continue to run in the background until the device is rebooted.
Snag a decent task manager and see if there is unneeded 'stuff' you can kill (note modt system tasks won't be displayed on FireOS). You might just stumble across the culprit.
Any suggestions for a task manager?
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Any suggestions for a task manager?
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Well - Clean Master is popular, easy to use and has options to 'clean' memory on sleep and other events (this normally isn't necessary or advised except for diagnostic purposes). It will also reveal auto starts although you may not be able to stop them without root. Downside is a heavy dose of marketing and promos for other apps.
Other suggestions:
- CCleaner (simple and effective)
- ES Task Manager (time proven)
There are dozens available; everyone has their favorite. Be aware FireOS may restrict the operation of some functions. If you can not find what you want in the Amazon app store consider installing an alternative market place like 1Mobile which tries to emulate the Play Store. Just be careful what you download/install as it's not as well curated as the Amazon and Google stores.
It's possible you have a hardware issue; I tend to think not given it takes a day or two for the problem to fully manifest. Yet another option is to simply restart your device once a day. Doesn't address root cause but might be the easiest solution.
I downloaded especially task manager and it seems to be doing a good job. I haven't been able to track down a culprit for the sluggishness though. However I've been shutting down my kindle at night every few days. I have noticed something weird though. When I power down the kindle and then try to charge it, it comes back on immediately. Even when I have the power cord connected first and then power it down, it still comes back on. Is this normal? It seems awfully strange to me. And it obviously makes it take way longer to get a full charge
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I downloaded especially task manager and it seems to be doing a good job. I haven't been able to track down a culprit for the sluggishness though. However I've been shutting down my kindle at night every few days. I have noticed something weird though. When I power down the kindle and then try to charge it, it comes back on immediately. Even when I have the power cord connected first and then power it down, it still comes back on. Is this normal? It seems awfully strange to me. And it obviously makes it take way longer to get a full charge
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My HDX 7s behave the the same way. Not all android devices do; many will simply display charge status without fully booting. This has nothing to do with the rom that is installed as it is determined by lower level code.
There is no need to power down your device to charge. Simply put it to sleep. Charge time/rate will not be significantly impacted. When it's done charging you can initiate a reboot if desired to begin the day with a 'clean slate'. I realize this involves a few extra steps and a bit of time. Not ideal but have to work with the hand that has been delt.
If your device is waking while charging try placing it in airplane mode. Many apps will check network status and defer full wake-ups until connectivity is restore. The check is done with the screen off and consumes little power. I can't speak to the most recent FireOS framework; previous versions were relatively quite during sleep provided the device was in airplane mode. Note the built in function to disable WiFi while sleeping does not work reliably in my experience.
In my last post, I meant I had gotten ES Task Manager not especially task manager.
I've noticed lately the stock launcher seems to have a large cache associated with it. It's normally second to Silk or Facebook. However, I've been using GQ Launcher almost exclusively lately.
Just a few minutes ago, everything started slowing down so I opened Task Manager. The cache for Launcher (the stock Fire one) was almost 80Mb. It was second largest behind Silk which was 200Mb. As soon as I cleared the cache for the Launcher, performance returned to normal. I did not clear the cache for anything else. Any ideas on why the cache for the Launcher would be so large? Could I have something corrupted with OS 4.5.5 causing this on a regular basis?
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In my last post, I meant I had gotten ES Task Manager not especially task manager.
I've noticed lately the stock launcher seems to have a large cache associated with it. It's normally second to Silk or Facebook. However, I've been using GQ Launcher almost exclusively lately.
Just a few minutes ago, everything started slowing down so I opened Task Manager. The cache for Launcher (the stock Fire one) was almost 80Mb. It was second largest behind Silk which was 200Mb. As soon as I cleared the cache for the Launcher, performance returned to normal. I did not clear the cache for anything else. Any ideas on why the cache for the Launcher would be so large? Could I have something corrupted with OS 4.5.5 causing this on a regular basis?
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GO Launcher in general is just bloated with unnecessary features, ads, etc.
I would avoid task managers and cleaning apps (i.e. Clean Master), as they often do more harm than good.
Facebook apps are notorious for constantly running in the background and eating up battery life.
As alternatives, I'd highly recommend switching to some more lightweight apps:
Nova Launcher
If you really need to clean your app caches and the like, at least do it with SD Maid, which doesn't try to oversell what it does and isn't loaded with junk.
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GO Launcher in general is just bloated with unnecessary features, ads, etc.
I would avoid task managers and cleaning apps (i.e. Clean Master), as they often do more harm than good.
Facebook apps are notorious for constantly running in the background and eating up battery life.
As alternatives, I'd highly recommend switching to some more lightweight apps:
Nova Launcher
If you really need to clean your app caches and the like, at least do it with SD Maid, which doesn't try to oversell what it does and isn't loaded with junk.
Metal for Facebook
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Concur with Nova (excellent!) and SD Maid recommendations. Clean Master is obnoxiously bloated and self boasting but core functionality is solid with an easy to digest UI. Task managers can be good diagnostic tools but generally aren't needed once the culprits have been identified. In general never enable any of the automated cleaning functions unless you can configure to target a specific app vs the entire portfolio of active/cached tasks.
As I recall your device isn't rooted (4th gen) so you are stuck with the stock FireOS launcher. Occasionally dumping the cache may be your best option.
Started using Nova about a week ago. It seems when I use only Nova, everything runs great. However, if for some reason I open the native Launcher, everything gets sluggish a few hours later. It sure would be nice if I could set it as the default. Right now I have to choose every time I hit the home button. Thanks for all the help
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Started using Nova about a week ago. It seems when I use only Nova, everything runs great. However, if for some reason I open the native Launcher, everything gets sluggish a few hours later. It sure would be nice if I could set it as the default. Right now I have to choose every time I hit the home button. Thanks for all the help
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Not aware of a method for permanently selecting a non-stock launcher on FireOS v4 without root which itself is not an option on a 4th gen HDX. Might be a way via adb but the risk is high without a way to recover if something goes wrong.
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Started using Nova about a week ago. It seems when I use only Nova, everything runs great. However, if for some reason I open the native Launcher, everything gets sluggish a few hours later. It sure would be nice if I could set it as the default. Right now I have to choose every time I hit the home button. Thanks for all the help
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Try this in adb:
Code:
adb shell
pm block com.amazon.kindle.otter