So guys what Im afraid of is that my phone is showing symptoms of sudden death (or at least I think so). For some time now I observed a prolonged charging cycle (15%-100% in over 5h) with my original charger and cable from Samsung. The other thing is that in the battery graph is shown that my phone is practically always awake, when charging. I tried with my Nexus 7 charger and it does charge faster, but maybe thats because its 2A and samsungs - 1. Im giving you the link to the screenshot with the battery graph. Am I beeing paranoid or is this really a sudden death symptom?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p91pnm2kw3mzsmy/Screenshot_2013-06-25-21-22-50.png
Charging and wakelocks are nothing to do with sds
1) samsung usb cable is poor. S3 has usb stability detection. Detects unstable connection - lowers charge. Samsung usb cable often unstable. Replace
2) get betterbattery stats (read xda thread) to work out what wakelock you have.
Btw, phone is awake whilst charging by standard
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read the SDS thread in General because it seems like you don't know what you're talking about
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It was working fine before I went to bed last night, then I let it charge for the night since that battery was at about 4%, But this morning it won't turn on at all. The battery feels warm as if its been charging but nothing seems to be making it turn on. Any ideas?
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labou_7 said:
It was working fine before I went to bed last night, then I let it charge for the night since that battery was at about 4%, But this morning it won't turn on at all. The battery feels warm as if its been charging but nothing seems to be making turn on. Any ideas?
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If it was my phone here is what I would do.
First I would see if the phone charges the battery by putting the battery into
the phone and plug the usb cable from phone into the wall charger or into
the computer.
If the display on phone shows a picture of a battery charging let it charge
for an hour more or less and try turning on the phone.
If the phone is not charging the battery I would purchase a cheapy battery
charger and battery combo on eBay.
You can find this combo on eBay for less than $8 bucks shipped for both the battery and charger:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1800m-BATTE...045605?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43aa9a4465
(even if you decide to return and exchange the phone its still a good thing to have a spare battery and charger)
Check it out.
Good Luck!
labou_7 said:
It was working fine before I went to bed last night, then I let it charge for the night since that battery was at about 4%, But this morning it won't turn on at all. The battery feels warm as if its been charging but nothing seems to be making it turn on. Any ideas?
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are you on cm7? not sure about the s2 (never had the issue), but i know that on the infuse, there was a problem (or maybe it was intentional) with low power charging mode (phone wouldn't charge when off).
i think this can be solved by trying to charge the phone via your computer usb, as opposed to your OEM wall charger.
Thanks for the suggestion. It definitely isn't showing the picture of the battery when its plugged in to the wall or the computer. I'm debating the battery charger combo you linked.
I actually am. But I have it plugged to my computer and nothings changed.
Time for some trouble shooting.
Start eliminating possibilities. You need to determine where the problem is.
From what you say, it seems possible that the battery is completely discharged but not recharging. That could be a bad battery or it could be the phone.
If you know someone else with an SGS II, try inserting their battery temporarily to see if your phone will boot. If you don't know someone else, maybe you can borrow a charged battery from the store where you bought it.
Continue on until you pinpoint the problem.
Do NOT buy a "cheapie" battery for your SGS2. Unless you want to eisk causing damage. The stock battery for the SGS2 has NFC technology built into it. Using anything other than OEM could cause damage/performance issues to your phone, and void the warranty.
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Have goh tried a battery pull? Unplug the phone, pull the battery and let sit for a few minutes to allow tbe IC's to discharge. Put battery back in and try powering up the device. Good luck.
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Similar issue and got phone fixed finally
Have had similar issue as yours. Cable charger was plugged into the phone to be charged at night and was surprised to find that the phone became hot and battery was not charged at the next morning, in fact the battery level got lower than it was before charging.
Notes:
- ROM in use: AOCP version 7.2 (Android 4.4.2)
- Kernel in use: Version 3.0.101 [email protected] #3
Here are some tests done and the observations after getting a charger with a slot to place the removed battery for charging:
1. Charging via USB cable connected to PC:
- With the phone turned on, battery charging icon is only displayed after some wiggling at the charging port. The phone got charged further to 100% when the initial remaining battery level is 90%. However, when the initial battery level was less than 50%, the battery level continued dropping ALTHOUGH the battery charging icon was displayed.
- With the phone turned off, battery charging icon is only displayed after some wiggling at the charging port. When the initial battery level was less than 50%, the battery charging icon displayed only a battery level of 1% and the battery level did not increase at all after 15 minutes of charging.
Initially suspected that it was a dead battery issue and bought an i9100 battery, I thought it was a compatible battery at first. With the i9100 battery, I repeated the above tests.
2. Charging via USB cable connected to PC:
- With the phone turned on, battery charging icon is only displayed after some wiggling at the charging port. The phone got charged further to 100% when the initial remaining battery level is 90%. However, when the initial battery level was less than 50%, the battery level continued dropping ALTHOUGH the battery charging icon was displayed.
- With the phone turned off, battery charging icon is NOT displayed but the phone screen flashed continuously, and at times the phone is turned on automatically as the USB charging port is inserted. When the phone is turned on, the charging proceeded as the above sentence.
Upon searching the forum, I found that i777 has a different battery with NFC chip and i9100 battery has reported to cause issues during charging on i777 devices. There was also a Chinese forum which mentioned that the battery compatibility issues should have been overcome in ROM with Android version 4.0 and above.
I then bought a new i777 compatible battery and tested charging via USB cable. The observations are same as the first battery as at 1.
With the battery issues possibility eliminated, I approached a phone technician to examine the phone by telling him that the phone couldn't be charged and the battery level continued dropping even with the battery charging icon displayed. The phone technician then thought that the USB charging port to be the cause of the charging issue and replaced it. The replaced part is the small metal housing where the USB cable is inserted, and is replaced by heating the old metal housing and replacing it with new part by soldering.
The phone could be charged with USB cable as usual after the part replacement and all the batteries are found to be still working fine. Ended up with 2 i777 batteries and a i9100 battery, may be I could continue using this phone for at least another 5 years down the road.
does anyone know if its possible to find out if the s3 is really charging or not? ive been plugged in and it's still discharging. I need to know if its hardware or software related. when plugged in it has a lightning on the battery and it has red led when display is off but its really slow on charging
anthony001 said:
does anyone know if its possible to find out if the s3 is really charging or not? ive been plugged in and it's still discharging. I need to know if its hardware or software related. when plugged in it has a lightning on the battery and it has red led when display is off but its really slow on charging
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same here!
anthony001 said:
does anyone know if its possible to find out if the s3 is really charging or not? ive been plugged in and it's still discharging. I need to know if its hardware or software related. when plugged in it has a lightning on the battery and it has red led when display is off but its really slow on charging
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The battery does not charge to 100 %, this is not a defect in the phone but rather a sort of internal protection so as to not damage the battery. Indeed, it happens many times to leave the phone connected to the charger much more time necezzario.
The battery by doing so you may receive a surplus of energy than necessary, and in the long run, deteriorate more quickly. Samsung has inserted inside the Galaxy S3 a limiter that operates in the following way: while the phone is charging, you download slightly of 2-3% for then recharge automatically up to 100 %. This process is repeated automatically from your phone until it is removed from the charger.
Use this app.for monitoring battery ; https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNjYzcxLmJtdyJd
If necessary make a battery calibration uses these applications ; https://play.google.com/store/search?q=calibration&c=apps
While plugged in go to settings/battery and see if it is ac charging or usb charging....I've had this problem with the new cable and plug, it only charges at usb rate, use my old S1 charger now, BlackBerry one worked for me as well
devid801 said:
The battery does not charge to 100 %, this is not a defect in the phone but rather a sort of internal protection so as to not damage the battery. Indeed, it happens many times to leave the phone connected to the charger much more time necezzario.
The battery by doing so you may receive a surplus of energy than necessary, and in the long run, deteriorate more quickly. Samsung has inserted inside the Galaxy S3 a limiter that operates in the following way: while the phone is charging, you download slightly of 2-3% for then recharge automatically up to 100 %. This process is repeated automatically from your phone until it is removed from the charger.
Use this app.for monitoring battery ; https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNjYzcxLmJtdyJd
If necessary make a battery calibration uses these applications ; https://play.google.com/store/search?q=calibration&c=apps
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Hmm, im not talking about when it charges at 100 % im talking about when it charges in mid ranges like 50 or 80. It shows charging but an hour passed but it didnt even increase to 2 percent
Are you on an original rom or a custom / leaked one?
Have you tried another charger or computer?
It may take some time to charge on slower chargers (the ones only outputting 0.5Amp) but it definitively should not be discharging when connected to a charger with the screen off.
Im on stock firmware. Using the wall outlet ti charge the phone
Hi all,
About a month ago my S3 I9300 started charging slowly, it takes about 5-6 hours to do a full charge. I have since noticed strangely enough it charges at the normal rate (about 1.5 hours) if flight mode is enabled before connecting the charger. This led me to believe there is some kind of excessive battery drain when the cell network is enabled however the phone isn't discharging any faster than normal and the cellular entries in the battery settings aren't showing any abnormal drain levels.
When the problem first started, I was running 'stock' Samsung ROM 4.1.1. I have since rooted and factory reset, and installed ParanoidAndroid 3.55, which hasn't solved the charging problem. I still have to put it into flight mode first to get a charge done at normal rate.
Here's what I've also tried:
- Two different chargers
- Different USB wire
- Tried charging from my PC instead
- Removed the battery from the phone for 5 minutes (as suggested some place)
- Restarting the phone before connecting the charger
Nothing has solved the problem thus far. The battery is showing as 'healthy' and I've always looked after it and always done proper charge cycles - i.e waiting for the level to get down to around about 5 to 10% then doing one single full charge all the way up to 100% - i.e. good standard Li-Ion charge discipline. The phone is about 9 months old. The battery has very good endurance when fully charged, lasting 1 to 2 days as normal. I don't have a reason to believe the battery itself is faulty.
I have searched and read other posts, there have been some charge related problems before, although none I have found relate specifically to this flight mode issue. Does anybody have any ideas what may be causing? Or how I can diagnose the problem in more detail - some recommended battery charging app?
Thanks very much
Usb port replacement and new reflash solved my problem. It was just like yours.
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punktnet said:
Usb port replacement and new reflash solved my problem. It was just like yours.
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Thanks. I feared it may be a hardware problem. If it becomes far too much of a nuisance, or gets worse, I'll look into getting a repair done.
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punktnet said:
Usb port replacement and new reflash solved my problem. It was just like yours.
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what do you mean " reflash" rom- kernel - modem ?? pllz can you tell me ? so i can fix it too . because i bought a new battery and a new charger and nothing happen ....
thnx in advance ..
P.S sorry for my bad english
I love my Mega. It is by far the best phone Ive ever had. But, the problems I have with the power usage and management on the device are a total nightmare.
1) The discharging nightmare:
The battery lasts NOTHING. Basically I get about 5 hours of use.. maximum.. no matter what I do.. and I have slimmed down to the ROM to having that NOTHING active.. I literally am left with active 6 services and I monitor CPU usage that is always near zero with NO apps hogging resources. From what I monitor on the device's battery usage, it's clearly always about 90% from the display! And yes, I dim the screen as much as I can of course, but usually not below 1/2way.. I hate screens too dim. However even just on standby with the screen off I still lose about 5% to 8% of battery an hour. Worse, even with the device Powered OFF, I still lose about 20% of battery a day. The ONLY way I have found out to control battery drain completely, is to take the battery out. That's it. Anyone else with similar symptoms and a fix or, is just that the stock battery totally sucks??? Also, any other off brand batteries are any better?.. (not the fat ones rated at much higher amps but that have an extra bulge.. that I don’t want)..
2) The charging nightmare:
This to me is the worse problem. It is bad enough how quickly this device issues battery, bit not nearly as bad as trying to charge efficiently again. I now have tried 3 different chargers/brands (and cables) to try fix the charging problem that is, it takes HOURS and HOURS to charge the battery. I am talking 5 to 6 hours to get it charged and if the screen is on and Im using the device it actually charges NOTHING at all and still keeps discharging (albeit much slower of course)... the fact is that the charging process is so pathetically slow that is less than real-time which means, with the device connected to power supply, the battery STILL drains if I try use it. This is absurd. However, mysteriously enough I have found ONE way that charges the phone super fast.. using a SONY External Power Pack (model CP-F1L) rated at 2200mAh. This is seems crazy because the power output of an external power pack should be much lower than the stock (and other Samsung) USB chargers.. but, it's what works.. the ONLY thing that works. And I have noticed that when connected to a USB Power charger, the Mega's Red LED light turn on faded.. however, when connected to the SONY External Power Pack, is bright red. Clearly more juice going in.. or something like that. Again, anyone else with similar symptoms and a fix the charging time, or, any good recommendation on a extra strong USB power adapter/charger that will make this thing at least charge faster?
Thanks in advance for the input and advice:silly:
Sounds like something is not letting your phone sleep or the battery is defective. Try putting CPU spy on it and let it set for a while. Then check to see if it is getting into deep sleep or if it is even stuck at a certain frequency.
There is an app on the playstore called Galaxy charging. Try it to see what rate it is charging. Though with the rate your phone discharges, the charger may only being supplying an amount just over the drain rate which is why it takes so long to charge.
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Yes this is not normal, I get five hours screen time on fifteen hours usage.
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Yep, something wrong there. I'm stock and this thing won't quit :good:
I would flash the stock rom back into your phone and see how the battery works then as this not normal as mentioned by other members as I am still on the stock rom but rooted only and I have great battery life.
That is were to start by flashing the stock rom and if no change then battery or maybe a hardware problem.
Did you have good battery life before you starting flashing with the phone or did this occur after the stock rom was removed and custom rom with stuff removed to gain performance?
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Sometime i got 96% bug
Battry is fully charged = 100%
remove charger
Reboot device
Suddenly Battery become = 96%
ps000000 said:
Sometime i got 96% bug
Battry is fully charged = 100%
remove charger
Reboot device
Suddenly Battery become = 96%
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You could try to remove the battery from the phone for about 5 secs and re-install and see it that helps as sometimes if you take the charger off as soon as it is done charging it might not show 100% at times when booting as I leave mine on for a bit longer and it seems to help..even though charge light is green..I leave it longer on.
If your phone is rooted get a app called battery calibrator from the google store as it is free and install it and just before you shut down the phone to charge wipe the battery stats with this app and then shutdown phone and fully charge and then see how the battery works after the battery stats wipe as that can usually help.
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Mad383Max said:
Sounds like something is not letting your phone sleep or the battery is defective. Try putting CPU spy on it and let it set for a while. Then check to see if it is getting into deep sleep or if it is even stuck at a certain frequency.
There is an app on the playstore called Galaxy charging. Try it to see what rate it is charging. Though with the rate your phone discharges, the charger may only being supplying an amount just over the drain rate which is why it takes so long to charge.
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Thanks for the tip. Installed the app you recommend, now I understand better. With the stock Samsung USB charger I get 420 readings. With the other 2 chargers I get 500 and 540. However, with the Sony External Power Pack I get 1900!..no wonder it charges super fast with it! My question now is what's up with all the USB chargers I have? I even tried my old Galaxy Tab 7 charger (strongest rated charger I have) and still only feeds 480. This is all so bizarre. So, where to get a super strong charger for the Mega?
(sorry.. by whatever reason my reply got posted 4 times.. so strange. I try delete the first three but cant)..
VeEuzUKY said:
Thanks for the tip. Installed the app you recommend, now I understand better. With the stock Samsung USB charger I get 420 readings. With the other 2 chargers I get 500 and 540. However, with the Sony External Power Pack I get 1900!..no wonder it charges super fast with it! My question now is what's up with all the USB chargers I have? I even tried my old Galaxy Tab 7 charger (strongest rated charger I have) and still only feeds 480. This is all so bizarre. So, where to get a super strong charger for the Mega?
(sorry.. by whatever reason my reply got posted 4 times.. so strange. I try delete the first three but cant)..
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Usually when this happens there is something wrong with the USB cable not necessarily the charger. Is the sony cable a USB type cable or a hard wired one? If it is USB type try using it with the other chargers and see what your results are.
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Mad383Max said:
Usually when this happens there is something wrong with the USB cable not necessarily the charger. Is the sony cable a USB type cable or a hard wired one? If it is USB type try using it with the other chargers and see what your results are.
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Yes indeed I notice the Sony Power Pack cable is short and thick. The Samsung cable is long and thin. I get much higher charging power using the thick short cable. Maybe I need go shop for a proper longer/thicker cable.
VeEuzUKY said:
Yes indeed I notice the Sony Power Pack cable is short and thick. The Samsung cable is long and thin. I get much higher charging power using the thick short cable. Maybe I need go shop for a proper longer/thicker cable.
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I've certainly found the USB cable makes a big difference to the charging speed. I got a couple of 2m cables off Ebay and they're hopelessly slow, but the stock Samsung cable is fast. I just wish it was a bit longer!
I have the same issue
I have the Sprint Mega. Not refurbished and original factory state but I have horrific charge/discharge issues. Right now, my phone just got to 100% charge which I then unplugged the charge cable. Within 5 mins, I went from 100% to 96% and it is losing battery even quicker.
VeEuzUKY: It's been a while but do you still have this phone? Any updates? I should prob invest in a thicker USB cable like you've describe. It has the most charge rate.
I got my mega 6.3 last week. Since then it has said 100% charged... even when charging or dead. So I got a new battery thinking it was the battery but its obviously not and im not sure what it is that could be the problem. Im not sure if its crucial for my phone, if it can be fixed easily and cheaply, or if I need to return my phone to the place I bought it from.
Hi,
I've read various guides on the net on the best way to charge an S3 (or any modern smartphone).
Some say charge when the battery is at 40% and take it off when it reaches 80%.
Some say to fully discharge it, then charge to 100%.
Can anyone give me advice on the best way to charge my phone (so the battery lasts longer).
Thanks.
skatlyup said:
Hi,
I've read various guides on the net on the best way to charge an S3 (or any modern smartphone).
Some say charge when the battery is at 40% and take it off when it reaches 80%.
Some say to fully discharge it, then charge to 100%.
Can anyone give me advice on the best way to charge my phone (so the battery lasts longer).
Thanks.
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Charge your phone when the phone says connect to charger and remove it when it says Fully charged.. this is the best way to charge your phone...
The battery is only supposed to last 50 charge cycles, before capacity is noticeably reduced. As above, don't leave it fully charged and don't let it go below 15%.
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It wont matter if you leave your phone on the charger when it says fully charged since they have a cut off point so when it reaches 100% it will not continue to put power into the battery. That's why I charge mine overnight because when I wake up the charger is cold so I know it hasn't been charging all night
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Point to note on the above reply .
We on XDA first found that users left phone on charge overnight where reporting a dead unit . After a number of these posts it was recognized as what became SDS or sudden death syndrome .
Leaving on charge overnight is not the actual cause of SDS but something i don't risk any more fixes or not .
SDS seems to manifest in 2 distinct ways.
1) Complete eMMC failure. This usually happens over night whilst on charge* - The LED may be lit but the phone will not wake. Subsequent removal of the battery will turn off the LED. You will never get the LED back on. The phone will never turn on again. It needs to go to a service centre and have the motherboard replaced
* Being on Charge is NOT the cause. This is a writing to memory issue and it is more likely to happen when teh device is awake rather than in deep sleep. When the S3 is on charge, it holds a wake lock (so remains awake) throughout the entire charging period, meaning SDS is more likely to occur when on charge This does not mean you should avoid charging your phone. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
boomboomer said:
The battery is only supposed to last 50 charge cycles, before capacity is noticeably reduced. As above, don't leave it fully charged and don't let it go below 15%.
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ya its a good thing to note, never to leave it charging even if the phone says charged, remove it as soon as phone says charged!!
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I'm going to start charging mine while I'm at work. I normally charge it overnight but it seems from what I've read here that it's counterproductive.