Hello,
I don't know if this should be asked on XDA as this is more of a software website,
but I need to replace my cracked glass,
and I still can't find an inconclusive answer to which adhesive should I use:
Should I use double sided tape only, on the sides around the LCD? or should I use those clear LCD adhesives directly on the LCD (LOCA),
or maybe use double sided tape and after putting on the glass, use some liquid adhesive around the phone to seal?
If I use only double sided tape as shows in many videos, won't that my the phone more susceptible to water and humidity?
What is the glue that is used by the companies themselves, for example what is this glue on Samsung i9300?
Thanks all helpers, I already want to replace my glass :cyclops:
Not sure what glue they use in factory but they do use LOCA too. Most people don't bother
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rootSU said:
Not sure what glue they use in factory but they do use LOCA too. Most people don't bother
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Is LOCA also intended to make it more water/humidity resistent or just to get a better grip of the glass and lcd?
Will a double sided tape be enough?(for example the 2mm by 3M) or it will really be bad and I need some special material too.
I also found this type of adhesive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-X-Original-Black-adhesive-glue-tape-For-Galaxy-SIII-S3-i9300-touch-screen-/200904299824?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ec6d45530
will that be ok? I am confused about this sticker because I dont see that it is transparent in the middle where the LCD is!!! or am I missing somehting and you can see? (maybe the adhesive in this sticker is only at the frame?)
Ty again!
Personally I would want LOCA. I wouldn't want to do it myself though.
I imagine it helps prevent dirt and condensation aswell as provides more adhesive
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verynoob said:
Is LOCA also intended to make it more water/humidity resistent or just to get a better grip of the glass and lcd?
Will a double sided tape be enough?(for example the 2mm by 3M) or it will really be bad and I need some special material too.
I also found this type of adhesive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-X-Original-Black-adhesive-glue-tape-For-Galaxy-SIII-S3-i9300-touch-screen-/200904299824?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ec6d45530
will that be ok? I am confused about this sticker because I dont see that it is transparent in the middle where the LCD is!!! or am I missing somehting and you can see? (maybe the adhesive in this sticker is only at the frame?)
Ty again!
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I think the eBay adhesive you sited is just to seal the edges, and you take the middle out.
I have done 4 screens on GS3s. I haven't used LOCA on any of them, but I just ordered some com www.lcdglue.com. For $30, you should be able to do 5 screens. My current GS3 has a new screen with no LOCA, but you can see the two screens making contact when you press on the outer screen. I think using LOCA would be a much better idea.
Ricerocket00 said:
I think the eBay adhesive you sited is just to seal the edges, and you take the middle out.
I have done 4 screens on GS3s. I haven't used LOCA on any of them, but I just ordered some com www.lcdglue.com. For $30, you should be able to do 5 screens. My current GS3 has a new screen with no LOCA, but you can see the two screens making contact when you press on the outer screen. I think using LOCA would be a much better idea.
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Got it Thanks !
Btw, can I cure the LOCA with UV LED flashlight? for example this one?:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UV-Ultra-Violet-Blacklight-9-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Light-/281129456146?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item41749f1212
Or you need those special curing tubes? Btw, could this flashlight I posted be purple light but not ultra violet? I mean scientifically can it be purple but not UV thus it wont cure the LOCA?^^ sorry I have no idea
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Hi all, so I'm in the middle of replacing the digitizer for my TB. Got the new digitizer hooked in - there is supposed to be adhesive included, but I'm not sure what form it has taken. I have a clear piece of plaster with 2 printed tabs that say "Please peel off this mask before application" and "Please peel off this mark after application". I also have a white sticker looking thing, when I peel the paper back a see a clear piece of plastic inside. The only adhesive I've seen before goes around the sides - is the thunderbolt a clear platic adhesive that covers the whole surface? I'm assuming maybe one of these is a free screen protector they might have included? Pic of both attached
Edit: white sticker-looking one is a bit thinner than the width of the screen, am I supposed to cut this into strips to go around the outside?
Now that I go back and look - the listing I bought from didn't actually mention any adhesive, so I'm not 100% either of these necessarily are the adhesive.
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Hi all, so I'm in the middle of replacing the digitizer for my TB. Got the new digitizer hooked in - there is supposed to be adhesive included, but I'm not sure what form it has taken. I have a clear piece of plaster with 2 printed tabs that say "Please peel off this mask before application" and "Please peel off this mark after application". I also have a white sticker looking thing, when I peel the paper back a see a clear piece of plastic inside. The only adhesive I've seen before goes around the sides - is the thunderbolt a clear platic adhesive that covers the whole surface? I'm assuming maybe one of these is a free screen protector they might have included? Pic of both attached
Edit: white sticker-looking one is a bit thinner than the width of the screen, am I supposed to cut this into strips to go around the outside?
Now that I go back and look - the listing I bought from didn't actually mention any adhesive, so I'm not 100% either of these necessarily are the adhesive.
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It looks identical to the screen protectors from verizon, peel #1 off, apply to screen, peel #2 off, squeeze air bubbles out
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rledge21 said:
Hi all, so I'm in the middle of replacing the digitizer for my TB. Got the new digitizer hooked in - there is supposed to be adhesive included, but I'm not sure what form it has taken. I have a clear piece of plaster with 2 printed tabs that say "Please peel off this mask before application" and "Please peel off this mark after application". I also have a white sticker looking thing, when I peel the paper back a see a clear piece of plastic inside. The only adhesive I've seen before goes around the sides - is the thunderbolt a clear platic adhesive that covers the whole surface? I'm assuming maybe one of these is a free screen protector they might have included? Pic of both attached
Edit: white sticker-looking one is a bit thinner than the width of the screen, am I supposed to cut this into strips to go around the outside?
Now that I go back and look - the listing I bought from didn't actually mention any adhesive, so I'm not 100% either of these necessarily are the adhesive.
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use an exacto knife and cut thin strips odd the white adhesive. Be careful not to cover sensors or have it too wife so that you can see it on the screen. Make sure you put enough along the bottom or you'll have the soft key lights bleed on the screen something fierce. Good luck!
Swyped Thunder coming at you
um.... Not sure what these other guys are talking about, but the guy I know that does these uses a 2mm tape made specifically for this task produced by 3M. If someone sent you a sheet of crap you gotta cut up to make work, you got hosed in my opinion. I believe in doing a job right, and THAT doesn't strike me as how they do it at HTC. I believe Amazon has the correct 3M tape for this job.
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um.... Not sure what these other guys are talking about, but the guy I know that does these uses a 2mm tape made specifically for this task produced by 3M. If someone sent you a sheet of crap you gotta cut up to make work, you got hosed in my opinion. I believe in doing a job right, and THAT doesn't strike me as how they do it at HTC. I believe Amazon has the correct 3M tape for this job.
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Can you give me a link. It is greatly appreciated.
Here ya go.
They also have 3mm and 1mm, but 2mm is recommended. Just put it on the outer edge of the digitizer, don't let it overlap the black bezel. I highly recommend layering 2 strips on each side or you will not have enough space between the glass and LCD and eventually they will touch which will make it look like there is water inside it.
Howdy all,
What size double sided tape should I use to stick my Asus TF201 digitizer and LCD back together? I have 3 options, a 1mm, 2mm and 3mm double sided tape. Not sure whats on it now, but if anyone has an idea I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks
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Howdy all,
What size double sided tape should I use to stick my Asus TF201 digitizer and LCD back together? I have 3 options, a 1mm, 2mm and 3mm double sided tape. Not sure whats on it now, but if anyone has an idea I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks
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I recommend not using any foam tape at all to stick the digitizer to the LCD. I thought there'd be light leaks if I didn't. There were no light leaks. I used double-sided scotch tape to stick the digizer to the front bezel. It worked very well.
If you *do* use foam tape to stick the LCD to the digitizer, you'll go ape-**** crazy if you notice any fingerprints or particles on the inside of the digizer. Without sticking the two together, you can easily separate the two if you need to.
So double sided scotch tape eh? Whats the difference, just easier to take apart if you have to?
Might be an idea, seems to be more of it around here and waaayyy cheaper
Would this be it (put in b0p 1n0 if it asks for a postal code)? : http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/c...191,4,6&name=CA_SK_SCOTCH+-+Double-Sided+Tape
here's another, says it's removeable tape so I don't think that's a great idea : http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=3,3191,4,6&webid=33734&affixedcode=WW
Here's mounting tape, would this work too you think? http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_skuset.asp?CatIds=3,3191,4,6&name=CA_SK_3M+-+Mounting+Tape
And here's a tape of MC Hammer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
LOL on the MC Hammer!
On the mounting tape, keep in mind that the Prime's display has two types of mounting tape. The digitizer glass is affixed to the plastic bezel with very thin (and very sticky) double-sided celophane type adhesive. Then, the LCD is affixed with black foam tape (and screws). i used the Scotch tape to stick my digitizer to the bezel. This had the advantage of being very easy to trim with an exacto. I chose not to use any foam tape at all with the LCD and just rely on the screws to hold it in place. I was needlessly worried about light bleed. It did not. It was fine.
By not using foam tape, I had the HUGE advantage of being able to later remove a tiny speck of debris that got sandwiched between the LCD and digitizer. It was very small, but drove me nuts. If I had used foam tape to mount the LCD, the risk of breaking the damned thing again would have been too great to try removing the speck. It'd still be there.
I highly recommend not using any foam tape. At least try without first. You can always add it later if your heart is set on it. I've read other threads where folks ended up breaking the digitizer or LCD when having a foam-tape malfunction (stuck to the wrong spot, wasn't lined up right, etc.).
I don't use cheap tape or scotch tape (3m) as generally it's not sticky enough for most jobs like this.
I highly recommend mammoth tape for this job. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...AW81oG4Bg&sqi=2&ved=0CFoQrQQ&biw=1067&bih=693 don't get the one with the cloth membrane (labeled as Heavy duty double sided tape) as its too thick and very hard to cut, the one you need is labeled "multi purpose double sided tape".
I get it from a builders merchants but you can get it online. I have tried many brands and alternatives but mammoth is the best stuff I have found.
Ultimately folks can do whatever they want and feel comfortable with. I would council any close friends to just go with the double-sided Scotch tape to stick the digitizer glass to the bezel. It's plenty sticky enough and there's enough (around 1m total perimeter) that you get a good stick. BONUS: It's good and cheap.
With as fragile as the digitizer glass is, you really don't want to screw around with ridiculously sticky adhesives. On the likely chance (unless you're a pro) that you don't set the glass in the bezel just right, highly sticky adhesive is going to make repositioning much harder and you may very well break the new glass trying to reposition.
I highly recommend not using any adhesive at all to hold the LCD to the digitizer for the reasons I've already mentioned. You'll really wish you hadn't.
Jgrimoldy said:
Ultimately folks can do whatever they want and feel comfortable with. I would council any close friends to just go with the double-sided Scotch tape to stick the digitizer glass to the bezel. It's plenty sticky enough and there's enough (around 1m total perimeter) that you get a good stick. BONUS: It's good and cheap.
With as fragile as the digitizer glass is, you really don't want to screw around with ridiculously sticky adhesives. On the likely chance (unless you're a pro) that you don't set the glass in the bezel just right, highly sticky adhesive is going to make repositioning much harder and you may very well break the new glass trying to reposition.
I highly recommend not using any adhesive at all to hold the LCD to the digitizer for the reasons I've already mentioned. You'll really wish you hadn't.
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That's what I was thinking. My LCD was slightly cracked on the edge, but not noticeable. With the 2 sided Scotch tape ($5 here) if it breaks again I can replace it without totally busting the LCD. And if it's sitting in a decent case the screen is going to be reinforced anyway.
Nightpath said:
That's what I was thinking. My LCD was slightly cracked on the edge, but not noticeable. With the 2 sided Scotch tape ($5 here) if it breaks again I can replace it without totally busting the LCD. And if it's sitting in a decent case the screen is going to be reinforced anyway.
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I'm not sure going without the foam is the right thing in all instances. I'm working on a Casio G'Zone Commando, replacing the digitizer, and noticed that the digitizer will only work accurately if it is elevated slightly more than if it just sits on the frame where the foam tape was at. I can't tell if the digitizer is just wonky or if the slight elevation caused by the foam tape is needed with this phone.
I know this has been discussed before but I would like clarification on what I need to replace on my TF201. I am attaching pictures. I actually sat on my tablet and it damaged the LCD. The glass is fine but the display is not. Can someone tell me what I can do? Do I need to replace the whole screen? It powers on okay. Thank you!
thispdxgirl said:
I know this has been discussed before but I would like clarification on what I need to replace on my TF201. I am attaching pictures. I actually sat on my tablet and it damaged the LCD. The glass is fine but the display is not. Can someone tell me what I can do? Do I need to replace the whole screen? It powers on okay. Thank you!
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If the digitizer glass on the front is okay, you'll need to replace the LCD panel. The digitizer glass and the LCD are separate pieces. When you open your Prime, you'll see that the entire "display assembly" is a sort of sandwich. The digitizer glass is attached with dobule-sided tape to a thin piece of black plastic. The LCD is attached to the other side of the plastic with thin double-sided foam tape. Additionally, there are small brackets that hold the LCD to the plastic.
You're going to need to separate the LCD from the plastic with an exacto then clean away the remaining sticky foam crap. Order a replacement LCD, then reinstall.
Me, I reinstalled mine without using any sticky foam tape. I rely on the brackets. I'm glad I did it that way because I noticed a speck of dust after I re-assembled. It drove me nuts. If I'd used tape, I'd have never been able to get the piece of dust out.
A few notes: the LCD is VERY delicate and VERY fragile. Yours is already broken, so there's no real risk with the old one. The digitizer, comparatively, isn't quite as delicate. Still, BE CAREFUL when removing the LCD from the bracket. You DO run the risk of breaking your digitzer glass.
Also, leave the protective cover on the replacement LCD until the last possible moment of re-assembly. Use rubber gloves. You'll be unhappy if you leave a fingerprint on the replacement. Cleaning off fingerprints with alcohol or Windex risks breaking the new LCD. Did I mention that it's delicate?
Good luck
This is purely for sharing purpose and proof of theory, if you decide to do it on your own, then its all your own risk
Since in my country, Whitestone Dome is not available, and i cant find any good similar product,
I decide to make it on my own,
i do smartphone repair on a daily basis, and i know how to use LOCA glue, and i had available tools around,
So i grab one Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector,
i put the LOCA glue on the screen, and apply the glass on top, let the glue spread evenly,
curing it using UV lamp, and....
Sorry i forgot to create video
Here's the result : Full Screen Tempered Glass With Full Adhesive :fingers-crossed:
Video of the result : https://www.instagram.com/p/BVmub7Mg5SD/
hello. i wait someone to post this theory about loca glue with normal tempered glass. but i ask you some question?
1. how many cc for loca glue on the screen?
2. what kind of loca glue? ( tp1000 , tp2500 , tp2500f)
3. Is it easy to remove tempered glass from phone after use loca glue?
hello.
I found new Nillkin product 3D AP+ Pro tempered glass. Unfortunately, pictures have only Chinese description, however it's easy to find glass is only 0.1mm thin.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
Did anybody try it?
wanlop40 said:
hello. i wait someone to post this theory about loca glue with normal tempered glass. but i ask you some question?
1. how many cc for loca glue on the screen?
2. what kind of loca glue? ( tp1000 , tp2500 , tp2500f)
3. Is it easy to remove tempered glass from phone after use loca glue?
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You need less than 10cc absolutely,
One 10cc tube can do at least two installation
2500 should be good enough, its softer than 1000,
Removal is not that hard, but you need to slowly wipe away the dried/jellyfied loca
olegfusion said:
hello.
I found new Nillkin product 3D AP+ Pro tempered glass. Unfortunately, pictures have only Chinese description, however it's easy to find glass is only 0.1mm thin.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
Did anybody try it?
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Also listed on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Nillkin-Edge-Full-Coverage-Oleophobic/dp/B071R7QYGY
Actually for this kind of project,
Any TG protector will do,
But i choose one that has color on the edge, since it will disguise if there's any micro bubble appear on the edge,
Even cheap $3 bucks glass will do,
I just did 2nd installation using those kind of glass,
Fit perfectly well
FAUguy said:
Also listed on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Nillkin-Edge-Full-Coverage-Oleophobic/dp/B071R7QYGY
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No, this is CP+ Max glass. I'm talking about AP+ Pro glass.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
check again
Take a closer look of the result from my video here :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVmub7Mg5SD/
I am interested in giving this a try. From what it sounds like, you just put some adhesive on the glass, affix it to the screen, wipe away the excess, then cure it? How do you manage the glue around the speaker grill? I'm concerned the glue will gunk up the speaker.
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I am interested in giving this a try. From what it sounds like, you just put some adhesive on the glass, affix it to the screen, wipe away the excess, then cure it? How do you manage the glue around the speaker grill? I'm concerned the glue will gunk up the speaker.
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Put a paper tape on the speaker first. And remove it later,
Although, you can simply control the amount of LOCA you are using, so that there wont be too much excess that go near speaker.
If you accidentally gunk up your speaker, just use tooth brush, it will easily remove the dried up loca from the grill
olegfusion said:
No, this is CP+ Max glass. I'm talking about AP+ Pro glass.
http://nillkin.org/smartphones-acce...cessories/nillkin-samsung-galaxy-s8-3d-ap-pro
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What's the difference between this both?
mydonose said:
What's the difference between this both?
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AP should be thinner,
CP+ Max is still around 0.2-0.3mm
Wow..... is there any side effect, are there any leaked glue on the side/top/bottom ?
how is the sensitivity, i use Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector aswell, and the sensitivity on the top corner is horrible.
bakpau said:
Wow..... is there any side effect, are there any leaked glue on the side/top/bottom ?
how is the sensitivity, i use Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector aswell, and the sensitivity on the top corner is horrible.
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Leaked glue was cleaned right away after installation
Sensitivity is perfect, since there's no air gap like what happen in most common tempered glass,
and although there's glue between the glass and screen, it's LOCA which designed and purposed for mostcof LCD-Touchscreen-Glass bonding, so it has almost 0 effect to sensitivity and light transmittance
And experience is much better compared to common rubber or tpu protector, since its glass
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What's the difference between this both?
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otonieru said:
AP should be thinner,
CP+ Max is still around 0.2-0.3mm
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I had found a YouTube video, and it was comparing the difference between the CP+ and AP+ screen protector for an iPhone, and the guy was saying th CP+ was better, but didn't really say why, or what the difference is.
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I sent an email to the manufacturer got a response. The CP+ Max is Tempered Glass, the AP+ Pro is a PE Resen (flexible).
otonieru said:
This is purely for sharing purpose and proof of theory, if you decide to do it on your own, then its all your own risk
Since in my country, Whitestone Dome is not available, and i cant find any good similar product,
I decide to make it on my own,
i do smartphone repair on a daily basis, and i know how to use LOCA glue, and i had available tools around,
So i grab one Nillkin 3D CP+ Max Full Screen Glass Protector,
i put the LOCA glue on the screen, and apply the glass on top, let the glue spread evenly,
curing it using UV lamp, and....
Sorry i forgot to create video
Here's the result : Full Screen Tempered Glass With Full Adhesive :fingers-crossed:
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Hmmm I personally wouldn't consider this full-screen coverage but how well it is working without a case (if you don't use a case)? Like is it peeling up at all?
moccor said:
Hmmm I personally wouldn't consider this full-screen coverage but how well it is working without a case (if you don't use a case)? Like is it peeling up at all?
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No peeling up,
And i indeed, do not recommend to use case with this,
Since the glass is reaching the edge of the screen, most of case wont fit well
FAUguy said:
Also listed on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Nillkin-Edge-Full-Coverage-Oleophobic/dp/B071R7QYGY
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I got the CP+ Max in today. Removed the other screen protector that I had got last week:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHPMW98/
I didn't like that one since I could see the adhesive on the edges .
But the new screen protector is black all around, looks nice one, like you don't even have one installed. Still has the micro dots. Works with the two cases I have, EasyAcc and Diztronic.
Would a 3W UV torch be enough, or is 30W UV lamp necessary? And also, can you point me to the glue you used? I've been reading on the internet that theres some cheap loca that doesn't cure well...
Edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B011HY1QNM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_nSGuzbFNNWDDM
this lamp comes with the whitestone dome glass, so i guess this works? any ideas?
Daax said:
Would a 3W UV torch be enough, or is 30W UV lamp necessary? And also, can you point me to the glue you used? I've been reading on the internet that theres some cheap loca that doesn't cure well...
Edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B011HY1QNM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_nSGuzbFNNWDDM
this lamp comes with the whitestone dome glass, so i guess this works? any ideas?
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3W or even 6W would be too small, it will takes too much time to cure
Am using 36W UV lamp box, the one which nirmally used for nail polish in beauty shop, it fully cure the glue in around 5-30 mins
This is amazon link : https://www.amazon.com/Salon-Edge-36W-Professional-Dryer/dp/B006QO4BRM
LOCA glue i used is mechanic brand. Quite popular among repair shop in my country, not sure that would be available in your country though,
Here's on alibaba : https://m.alibaba.com/product/60537...-glue-liquid-optical.html#show_specifications
I think as long as you are not using the shaddy cheap one, you should be okay.
With all the complaints of just glue around the edges of glass screen protectors, especially the curved edge to edge ones, has anybody though about trying to find and apply their own? I did a quick search for glue or adhesives for screen protectors, but all I could find was glue to replace actual screens, which were permanent bonding type. I'm thinking if you could just buy the adhesive yourself, apply to the whole protector, then pretty much all the pitfalls of current crop of tgsp for the op5 go away. Thoughts?
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
Applying it in a way that keeps it invisible is the trick.
I've had similar thoughts btw
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Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
Trying to source the right one of those might be the best bet.
I haven't been through them all, but a transparent under 200um would be best.
tesa 61360 is 100um thick.
Tbh I wonder if a 5mm wide tape would be better than full screen. But I guess there's tapes wide enough to do all the screen
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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And if it doesn't work you take it of again.
Nice to see the spirit that made xda great is still alive and kicking..
Where's your spirit of adventure?
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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I didn't realize it was a strip of silicon. I was thinking more along the lines of some sort of spray adhesive. Low strength, optically clear of course would be ideal. Applying a strip would indeed be a bad idea.
fards said:
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
[/COLOR]Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
djsubterrain said:
Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Unless you get a sheet of that tape to cover all the screen..
My initial thoughts were just a slightly wider strip than the usual. That should give a better deal than what we've had so far..
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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Glass camera lens assemblies are glued together with a UV set adhesive. It is not a trivial task to separate these elements after bonding but it does make a bubble free bond and remains workable until hit with the UV. a search for camera lens cement should find several choices. Before high tech the lens elements were bonded with a balsam adhesive which also works.
deadsea said:
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
stubey said:
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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The OCA tape is supposedly the more convenient cousin of the LOCA that's also used to bond lcd to glass. I would assume the bond strengths to be similar. Just less equipment required.
stubey said:
I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
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https://youtu.be/8EBOs_Fntjs
The videos available for the whitestone protector show that its possible to just peel it off. Considering that they also use a UV curing glue, I would suspect there is a low bond version LOCA. Or the lcd is just that fragile during repair that the special tools are required. More Google work might get some answers on that.
I did find the bond strength for the TP2500 though. 0.3 N per mm2. About 3kg per cm2. No clue if that is strong though since I have no frame of reference.
Moar digging.... There has to be a way to get the TSP to work on our phone...
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