Will this work or can be done?
I wouldn't think so seeing as it relies on Sense framework to work. You could just install the apk version and try it out.
different framworks, so nope. same reason on why we cant use that beautiful sense analog clock on CM. but dont worry, the ICS camera that is in ASOP will be just as good. when CM9 is done of course
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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Biporch said:
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
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Oh yeah! Now that you mention it, i remember reading about Motoblur.
Cryosx said:
Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
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Are these custom Roms or just the normal Android OS without the company's additions to it? I have gingerbread atm (I'd rather wait for ICS until the official release from AT&T)
hobbs said:
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
ScelestusAnimus said:
I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
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You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
mattdm said:
You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
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Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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As mattdm said, all Android builds require a launcher. Otherwise you'd have no usable GUI. When you were switching back and forth between GO and TouchWiz were you using a home/launcher switcher, or were you just using the default ui to choose one each time you went to your home screen?
You can have several launchers installed and use a switcher to make one "stick" until you decide you want a different look/feel.
Some prefer GO or LauncherPro. I use ADW EX and TouchWiz. ADW and LauncherPro are very configurable. VERY. Both have their ardent fans. I've not used GO.
PS: You do NOT want the ability to change launchers disabled. ;-)
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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Uhh... touchwiz lets you resize certain widgets... (UI elements) pretty sure go launcher and adw ex do too...
Biporch said:
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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I believe it comes with both apex and nova. They are fairly similar but each have a few unique features.
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0p3nsrc said:
CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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Tasks came with trebuchet. I switched to nova and I'm fairly sure that apex came on it too.
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ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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First off, Welcome to Samsung!
A little background.
AOSP = Android Open Source Program. Meaning, a open source of code editable by anyone.
Touchwiz/Motoblur/Sense = Not AOSP, they were written as a launcher/GUI for each phone by their developer (Motorola/Samsung/HTC). On top of that, these GUI/Overlays have their fingers into everything on a phone, this is why updates take so long. Google creates a new version of Android and passes it to the phone manufacturer, they in turn need to take that new version and paste their GUI/Overlay on top of it, this takes time and money. Further, once the phone manufacturer finishes updating, they need to give the software to the vendor (VZW/AT&T etc) who add more bloat/custom crap to the software.
Custom ROM's, are and are not AOSP, Some are pure AOSP like AOKP or CM (Cyanogenmod), they are written by groups of people, all of whom work in concert to bring you the ROM. Then there are custom ROM's that are not in the realm of AOSP. For example, I use Phone Bricker, written by LilChris here on XDA. This ROM is not really Open Source as it's written by one person, the author may give out the source, I don't know.
So what would your phone look like w/o Touchwiz? CM9/AOKP is as close as you'll get. Those ROMs use the closest to stock version of Android.
To confuse matters even more, there are Launchers, Go Launcher/Apex etc. They operate as yet another GUI on top of a GUI, inside a ROM. So you could have a stock, unrooted Galaxy S2, with Touchwiz and Go Launcher, and customize it to make it look like you want it too. Or, you could root your phone, Update to CM9 (running Ice Cream Sandwich btw), and use the launcher that they have there, or change that to Go Launcher.
The options are endless, read read read. I am new to Samsung, I came from Motorola where things are done quite a bit differently. I can tell you this though, you are infinitely better off with a Samsung phone than a Motorola Phone. Not only does Motoblur blow chunks, but Motorola is a terrible company as far as software updates go. Toss in locked bootloaders... anyway, I hope the above answered your question.
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hi guys, this is my first time so lets go easy on me?
anyways..
i recently updated my phone to ics after much anticipation i was kinda bummed to see that the camera had not changed
ie. the camera app remained the same as it had been and did not resemble to camera app shown on the whats new on ics page (under: Rich and versatile camera capabilities)
is this just a "sense" thing or is there a way for me to be able to change my camera app ?
consider (or dont, if you prefer not to) my proverbial cherry popped!
thanks in advance
If you flash CapRomCE... Chrispaw used a different camera.apk in it if I remember right. Try it out. Dev section. The ROM is SOLID as well
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well that software (sense) + ics integration to take better pictures no?
There is the HQ camera mod in the themes and apps forum that has a better different camera, but you have to be deodexed to use it.
Hi,
Is there an ICS non sense rom with 3d support?
I prefer cyanongen based roms.
i found king cobra 1.6 3d is working with aosp features you choose aosp option at the installing rom. you can prefer not the install HTC sense nova launcher or apex launcher same as aosp.
MIUI?
try the agraben build from here (or latest nightly) as I think this is 3d capable, certainly the bootanimation is 3d and cameras work etc...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551746
I would love a asop ROM that has 4g and everything else!!
I would like 3D but dont really care, as song as the normal camera works.
My Rom in my Sig is non sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809974
Forgot I was on phone
Mr nerd said:
My Rom in my Sig is non sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809974
Forgot I was on phone
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You may call it a non-sense rom but I see a LOT of sense in there.
...like??
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Mr nerd said:
...like??
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Sorry to say but that rom is like 95% sense.
From what I can see and read you simply removed some of the HTC widgets and added a few more launchers.
Everything else is still Sense.
A TRUE Senseless rom is without HTC Lockscreen, a new launcher, every single piece of HTC software removed, and notification pulldown bar either themed to look AOSP or completely replaced with AOSP counterpart, and so on and so on.
To the OP:
I don't believe anyone has 100% fully working 3D on a pure AOSP rom, but if anyone has it (or something close by) it'd be Agraben.
Moonbloom said:
Sorry to say but that rom is like 95% sense.
From what I can see and read you simply removed some of the HTC widgets and added a few more launchers.
Everything else is still Sense.
A TRUE Senseless rom is without HTC Lockscreen, a new launcher, every single piece of HTC software removed, and notification pulldown bar either themed to look AOSP or completely replaced with AOSP counterpart, and so on and so on.
To the OP:
I don't believe anyone has 100% fully working 3D on a pure AOSP rom, but if anyone has it (or something close by) it'd be Agraben.
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... i have an AOSP lockscreen... did you even flash it... your looking at old pictures...and it is senseless..it doesnt have to look like AOSP to be SENSELESS because its not SENSE its a THEMED Rom to not look like SENSE therefore its SENSELESS.
thread in which I want to see which Sense Rom you're using now.
this is not only for me but helps also other people to decide which Sense version is the best/stable to use.
write here also why for you is the best and which Rom are you using..
Using a sense rom just because i love sense and also a there are currently not FULLY stable releases of cyanogenmod or any stock roms.
Using sense 5 because from the day i switched to sense 5 by ckpv5 i started to hate sense 4. Sense 5 is really beautiful.
Finally using sense 5 on vimiro as i think that it is smoother for me than mysensedx5 although thats my personal opinion and not intended to say that mysense is not good.
At last it all boils down to individual preferences
Im using Sense 5 now.I like the style,lockscreen,blinkfeed,the menu (I like the customizing menu - you can make folders,moving apps,hiding and etc )and is faster than sense 4.The camera is better on sense 4.Sometimes Im switching to Full Sense ICS.I like the lockscreen weather , weather animations on the clock.Why ICS ? On me full sense ics is more faster than JB full sense,aslo ICS need less ram than JB and I cant transfer files faster on USB stogare.I like CM roms too - fast and stable (almost ) , but sometimes I really need usb or wifi teethering and those ghost touches makes phone unusable.
I really like sense, as i stated a few times on some threads here, the only reason i would like us to get CM11 is so that i can port Sense 6 on it. In my opinion the best Android skin. I am on mySENSEDx5 RC4.0 with Infinity V7 kernel. I rarely have any ghost touches and the phone just works. I have droped the amount of apps i use to just the ones i really need. Yeah, there are some small ocassional bugs ( blinkfeed didn't want to sync untill i cleared data from HTC Sense app ) but they are expected and easy to fix.
P.s. My pc is back now, and if you are still up to help me with some porting just pm me.
I use Sense 5, lot of options and compared with avaible cm/cm based , bugfree!!
@xpirt : now, as you are a venom-team-member, may we expect viper rom for DX??
dau999 said:
@xpirt : now, as you are a venom-team-member, may we expect viper rom for DX??
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nop
I useViMiRo because it is the best sense 5 for me. sometimes I go to mysensedx because ICS smoother than JB, but I have sense 4 interface