[Q] Best music player to work with Google Music? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?

danielfiller said:
Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
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not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.

Trozzul said:
not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
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It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?

danielfiller said:
It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
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i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?

The music that's cached is on your device, but digging through the files won't do anything unfortunately, each one deeply encrypted, believe I've tried
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Trozzul said:
i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
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There is a way to do that, but then I lose the whole point of streaming - not having the files taking up space on my device.
The files you found in Apollo were probably some temp cache files leftovers.
So no suggestions?
Maybe someone else knows about an app like the one I'm looking for?
Maybe even some plugin that enables players to stream from Google?

been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/

purplekush said:
been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
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found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out

THANKS! Know a way to pick output device for the Web based version?
danielfiller said:
found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
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WOW! thank you so much for letting me know about this! :good:
I'm definitely gonna check it out and see how the streaming quality compares...
[sometimes it makes the difference between playing and buffering when using the Google Play Music app's settings for mobile streaming - the High, Normal, and Low quality setting]
Regardless, this is a good step in a good direction... I know Bubble UPnP app and even some file explorer apps could access cloud storage, including the google music account - so I'm glad someone finally incorporated that in a way that let other music players on the device see the cloud storage as if they were local!
As exciting as it is, I'm also cautiously optimistic... While this means that Google's All Access music service will become much more attractive and viable for multiple device use compared to it's competitors --- there will, of course, be issues regarding protecting digital rights. Already I mentioned the 'misleading' programs that allowed ON DEVICE/'pinned' music from Google Music to be played in 3rd party players, and some convert the file to a properly labeled mp3. Considering Google Play Music already allows for All Access subscription users to do the same to songs within their entire catalog (that is, 'pin' it to the device for offline play - which was really a surprise to me), this means those same programs can now convert the All Access music that is pinned to allow offline play into proper mp3 files.... Thus with some coding to make the process faster, one can essentially download any song they want from All Access and keep it as an mp3 - altho it is only meant to be a subscription service and the option to pin music from all access is just supposed to allow access to the subscription service without signal or without eating up data from a data plan.
I guess that means if Google Music wants their music streaming service to succeed, rather than taking away support for 3rd party players - they must provide an official API and a better means of protecting the songs stored for offline playback using a database and/or file level encryption for the 'pinned' songs. I'd hate to see the ability to use the service on other players be stripped and locked down even more to a single player due to these kind of concerns that Google surely already sees as an issue and is likely brainstorming solutions.
Question:
On the topic of Google Play Music, does anyone happen to know of a similar solution regarding Google Music Streaming on a DESKTOP ??
I have found gmusic (not the iOS app), but a standalone program that sits in the system tray...
http://gmusic.codeplex.com/
Some of the chrome plugins actually offer better features (last.fm integration, lyrics, etc....), but the one I found that said it allowed use of media keys didn't work for me...
This is the only one I found that allows me to A) not get my music player lost in a massive field of tabs, and B) change songs while playing a game!
The Main Player window, although, is nothing more than a customized browser window (like the ability to view webpages within winamp and other programs). It is nice that it is a separate icon not mixed in among other browsers, supports media keys, can be minimized etc ----
The one major thing I'm still unable to find a solution for, is the ability to select (non-default) audio output device!!
I have always had my pc connected to my receiver/surround sound system since I got 'my own' computer, so being able to select the audio output is crucial for me when playing music, as I direct the music through digital output to the sound system, but still want to hear other audio through the output jack.
Many times I'll have -Music through digital optical output, -Game SFX through pc speaker output, and -Google Hangouts (for voice chat with teammates) through USB headset.
However it isn't as common for a game to have audio device options as it is for a music/media player.... and always remembering to alt-tab after the games started to change the the default device is a major pain!
(Not to mention even if I'm just listening to music, I don't want to hear audio from a random ad... esp when I can't track down the source of the ad among my tabs, and it is blaring loud out the sound system along with my music)
Many people have complained/requested this to be a feature of Google Chrome - of course the Google team reading these complaints are thinking from the perspective of a simple web browser, something that usually has no need for such a feature...
However, plenty have brought up the issue of Google's Music Service being web-based, and thus such a feature is needed.
I'm not quite sure it is an issue that needs to be addressed by the Chrome browser, but it should definitely be an option within the Google Music web app itself - similar to how one can choose their input and output device in Google Hangouts, which is also a web-app run within a browser.
Of course, the best solution for me would be to find someone that has created something similar to GMusicFS that allows the music to appear as if it is local (similar to google drive's client) or if one of the better music players (Winamp, Foobar, MusicBee, etc.) had an extension somewhere that allows adding cloud music services like Google Music.
Anyways,
@danielfiller Thanks so much for pointing me to that app!
(sorry to any mods about how this post isn't -exactly- a proper topic for its location. Its just that Google Music is cross platform, not limited to mobile devices. While my question does not relate to any mobile platform, it is regarding the exact same functions the android app provides for the exact same streaming service.)

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An Alternate Cloud Music Player

I am not sure where to post this question. This seemed like the best place.
I was wondering if there are any cloud music services for Android that are not Amazon Cloud Player or Google Play Music. Both of them disappoint me in some way. I use to use Amazon but since they switched to a service closer to Apple's, I am just turned off of using it. I do not like being limited to only uploading 250 songs to my player. I do not need the matching service at all. My mp3 files are fine as is and I feel that automatic uploads are overrated. I do not mind waiting a few minutes to upload my own files and really Amazon is not letting me do this anymore, as far as I know.
Google Play Music has never really clicked with me. I love how the playlist sync but I do not like how it mixes the pool of online and offline songs. It also seems to be too combersome for me to specifically tell it, I want my entire library on my device and get it to automatically download all of my music. Using Play Music is a lot like using an iOS device, so simple that I feel like I have lost some functionality. I could just be using it wrong but it just is not clicking even as I have been forced back into using it.
I want a cloud music service that allows me to set up playlist that I can accesses on both of my computer, android tablet, and android phone. I also want it to allow me to automatically download new music that I put up there on my computer onto my tablet and phone. Making it clear what is on the cloud and on my device is handy also. Besides these two programs, are there any others that do this or am I just not seeing Amazon or Google to their fullest potential.
Thanks.

HTC Media Link HD issues

Hey everyone I've jumped over from the iPhone/Apple ecosystem so don't shoot me, but I'm really disappointed with this HTC Media Link HD. I've still got Airplay running side by side and these problems don't exist. I don't mean that to argue about Airplay and whatnot because neither companies are paying me royalties to argue for or against them. I just mention it because I can Airplay stream and mirror without a hitch so I don't want to fend off "your wireless network stinks" responses. I've got an Asus N66 and can sustain mbps back to my NAS/ESXi well beyond what this needs, and I can also stream non-hand braked blu rays without problem. I understand there is differences between streaming and mirroring, but also as I understand this should be a wireless direct connection.
Anyone having these problems:
1. Google Play (perhaps the latest version only) does not look to work with my Media Link. It will play one song and then stop as it tries to load the next song. Manually restarting the next song doesn't resolve I have to close and re-open. Spotify works fine.
2. Any flash I've tried to stream results in audio and video out of sync. I can mirror flash movies across airplay without this issue.
3. Audio cuts in and out in Spotify all the time. I can rarely get 2 songs to play in a row without chop. The cut outs are brief, but still very annoying.
Thanks for any help! Love the phone quite a bit, this is probably my first disappointment.
I have the same problem trying to stream google play music to media link. It only plays one song and it won't play any other songs until I disconnect from media link again - it works fine if its not connected to media link - but with media link only one song?
rsktkr1 said:
I have the same problem trying to stream google play music to media link. It only plays one song and it won't play any other songs until I disconnect from media link again - it works fine if its not connected to media link - but with media link only one song?
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This issue exists with Google Play Movies as well. I tried contacting support about it a couple months ago with nothing ever coming from it. I was trying to play All Access via Play Music today and ran into the same problem. The songs will not even play when the Media Link HD is connected. I suspect this is some DRM related code put into all the Google media apps. I submitted a support email to Google as will attempt to get as far through to the real tech support people as I can to see if this incompatibility can be resolved. I urge you all to do the same. Stupid DRM...it ruins everything.
It won't play tv.com either, it will play cnn live broadcast, and vevo.

Video sync with PC

I know this isn't device specific but I can't easily find a good solution through google.
Bit of a background.
I use Media Center for my main TV and movie watching through a media PC and projector.
But for music I use itunes because my car stereo only supports apple stuff (apart from controlling my phone as a generic bluetooth device) so i moved my music to itunes.... Yep still not that happy about that.
So for music sync to my android devices I use isyncr which works well over wifi. Happy with the control it has. But its not good for my video that I watch in Media Center (or effectively media player I believe as they are the same family).
I have tried Media players sync but not overly impressed. It wants to convert all video and I can't seem to find how to stop it reducing the quality so much. I have created autoplaylists for my video which gets the later video files and the later recorded TV. So happy with the autoplaylist I think.......
Is there anything that will sync media playlists well? Even better if its over wifi.
I don't particularly like airsync (doubletwist) as its very limited for video. I paid for it but have barely used it. I can't seem to selectively choose what to sync. And it appears to only see itunes video which I don't use.
Any suggestions???
I hope for the following;
- Sync only the latest video and/or recordings in media center
- Limit the space videos will take up
- Preference over wifi but not essential
Thanks, Peter.
Well I've started using MediaMonkey which does syncing with reasonable autoplaylists, does it wirelessly if the latest beta is down downloaded, and can limit the space the play list takes up... Although to make more advanced play lists requires to purchase the pro version on my pc but I just grinned and bared it. Also ended up changing my music/itunes sync over to it on my tablet. Have left the phone as isyncr because it integrates little better with iTunes.
So overall happy now after a lot of searching. Doubletwist was just too basic for video. And Much better than using media player that's for sure. But it's still not perfect. The play count not working for media center being one area that's not perfect. But that's more media center I think.
plex will do it, but i believe the feature is still in beta and require a plexpass (paid) subscription.

[Q] Some questions about how Google Music works

Hi,
I have a few questions about Goole Play Music All Access. Hopefully this is the right place to ask. Just to calrify, I have a lot of music from other MP3 providers, or from my CD collection on my device. I plan on keeping it that way, because I don,t want to lose the ability to play songs with different players.:
Does your choice of Thumbs up/Thumbs down affect Radio play, if the files are on your device and not on the cloud?
When you choose Radio Play, does it mix songs from your personal library (assuming they only exist on your device)and the cloud?
I have set up my Thumbs up list do automatically download songs to my device. If I "Thumbs up" a song that I have added from my library to my device, and the same song exists on the Google Servers, what happens?
Does the choice of High/Medium/Low quality affect the quality of the song saved to my device? If so, is ther a way to listen in Normal when not on Wi-Fi but to download high quality files to the device?
I would like to have the Thumbs Up/Down control on the lock screen. Is this possible?
I find the qality of sound of the Google Play Music app to be lacking (compared to PowerAmp, for example). What other apps will give me the same access to the Google Play Music All Access?
Is it possible, when playing songs on the device only, to skip certain songs altogether when using "I feel lucky?" For example, I have a lot of spoken word, or music backtracks that I don't want to hear in my shuffled songs. In other players I just put them in a separate folder and tell the player to ignor that folder, but that concept doesn't seem to exist in Google Play Music. Unless I'm wrong?
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Music unlimited intergrated w/ walkman app

I have two questions in regard to the Music Unlimited app/function that is integrated with the Walkman.
1. While using the Walkman App, I am searching music (I'm a paid subscriber) within Music Unlimited. I am trying to download a song, not just simply add to my playlist, for playback while off-line. Does anyone know how to go about this? Do I have to download the actual stand-alone Music Unlimited app to have this "offline/download" playback feature? The attached screenshot does not show an option for "download".
2. The second question is when I do add a song to my playlist, how do I delete it once I no longer want it? The only way I was able to delete a song when saving it to my playlist via the Walkman app is to go directly to the Music Unlimited website on my PC, log on, and then delete song from my playlist. This is not cool, and it's unacceptable that I can add a song to a playlist via the Walkman/Music Unlimited app on my Xperia Z3 (D6616), but not have the option to delete it, without having to log on to a PC.
I also never found any purchase option, I would advise you to stick to a non manufacturer based store like GooglePlay Music, etc that way you have the same experience on any phone like when you upgrade/change models. You can still use Sony sound effects like Clear Audio+ in Google Music app.
I don't believe you can purchase/download through Music Unlimited. Sony chooses to make you pay for subscription rather than purchase and ditch subscription. From a sustainability perspective, its good business. I am a subscriber.
augie7107 said:
I don't believe you can purchase/download through Music Unlimited. Sony chooses to make you pay for subscription rather than purchase and ditch subscription. From a sustainability perspective, its good business. I am a subscriber.
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Any pros/cons versus Google Play Music? Well, putting downloads aside.
augie7107 said:
I don't believe you can purchase/download through Music Unlimited. Sony chooses to make you pay for subscription rather than purchase and ditch subscription. From a sustainability perspective, its good business. I am a subscriber.
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Music Unlimitd does allow for downloading for offline playback. This is allowed on the pc, as well as the official Sony Music Unlimited stand-alone app (avail in Google Play). But for some odd reason, the option is not available via the Walkman app. It really doesn't make sense since it's a Sony phone, with a Sony music player app, integrated with a Sony music service application.
I do have a subscription and am able to download songs for offline playback as mentioned earlier on the pc and through the actual stand-alone Music Unlimitd app.
In the walkman app you have to go to download the playlist.
Also make sure to go into settings and authorize your device for offline playback. This and the ability to mix playlist are the two things I miss from google music.
calbrs said:
In the walkman app you have to go to download the playlist.
Also make sure to go into settings and authorize your device for offline playback. This and the ability to mix playlist are the two things I miss from google music.
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Just as calbrs said,
You need to add to a playlist then there is an option within the playlist to download for offline usage [emoji13]
AJHutchinson said:
Just as calbrs said,
You need to add to a playlist then there is an option within the playlist to download for offline usage [emoji13]
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Hey all, thanx for the tips! So I downloaded the song to a playlist and chose offline playback. It works! However, It will only play from the playlist. I was hoping I can put my whole library on random, and the downloaded song will play, but it appears as blacked out, and unable to playback, unless I play from the playlist. Suggestions?
Eric Violette said:
Hey all, thanx for the tips! So I downloaded the song to a playlist and chose offline playback. It works! However, It will only play from the playlist. I was hoping I can put my whole library on random, and the downloaded song will play, but it appears as blacked out, and unable to playback, unless I play from the playlist. Suggestions?
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Eventually I said screw it and went back to Google Play music. The walkman app kept deauthorizing my device for offline playback, and the UI just sucked.
Google play also gives out free albums every week, this week imagine Dragons/Gaurdians Mix Tape 1, both free. Also free music from new artists monthly.
Also Google play is better as a cross platform service. I use it on laptop, iPad and Z3.
Long term Sony's music service can't compete with iTunes, Google Music, Spotify etc. I'm sticking to Google.

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