Hi
I recently bought a broken Galaxy S2 with a non-working display/screen off a swiss auction portal (smiliar to eBay) for very little money.
The seller stated that the display broke after he dropped it, the rest of the phone should be fine. Effectively, only the LCD is broken, the glass is intact, but the screen doesn't show anything when I try to turn on the phone.
The first few times I tried to turn on the phone, nothing happened, no boot sound or touch buttons glowing. After trying several combinations of pressing buttons (hard reset, soft reset, download mode, recovery etc.) I heard the boot sound and saw the buttons glowing, but only once and I dont know how I exactly managed it to start. But, nevertheless, I can't really see what the phone is doing, if it is booting, if its in download mode, etc.
Does anyone have an idea, what I can/should do to make sure, the phone itself is working and its only the display which is broken? I just don't want to spend over $100 for a new display, if im not sure if the rest works...any suggestions?
Thanks very much for your help guys!
Greetings from Switzerland!
nkb88
How can anyone answer if the phone is going to be worth the cost of a new screen.It could be water damaged or blacklisted,or faulty.
Did you not foresee these things.What did you expect to happen.You must have trusted the seller,but all of a sudden you have doubts.Why didnt the seller replace the screen.
You probably think youve scored,when in fact it could work out more expensive than buying a working phone.
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theunderling said:
How can anyone answer if the phone is going to be worth the cost of a new screen.It could be water damaged or blacklisted,or faulty.
Did you not foresee these things.What did you expect to happen.You must have trusted the seller,but all of a sudden you have doubts.Why didnt the seller replace the screen.
You probably think youve scored,when in fact it could work out more expensive than buying a working phone.
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First of all, the mentioned auction platform is very small and not quite comparable to eBay, maybe it was my fault to make the comparison to eBay. Its much smaller, only people from Switzerland and people much trustworthier than on eBay. I talked to the seller even before I commited my bid on the phone, and he told me he already bought another one and the place, where he first wanted to repair it, told him, it would be more than $200, which wasnt an option for him...
The phone was very cheap, only about $25 - due to the fact that the sellar put it in a wrong category (mobile accessoires but not mobile devices itself) so almost nobody beside me bidded for the auction. There are several other Galaxy S2s with broken displays for sale, which sell at least for $50-70, rather between $100-150.
So to put it straight: I just bid for the phone because its cheap and, if the display is replaced and the phone is fully working again, the potential selling price is much higher than what I payed for the phone and the display together.
Now, I was just wondering, if there is a possibility to tell, if the phone boots normally and to be sure that the display is the only faulty part...
If you know what network it's on, and you can find a way to get it switched on, you can put a compatible sim card into it and call it....if the phone rings (provided the volume is set right) you can assume it's good.........
That is.....assuming there's charge in the battery.......
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
Ok I see now.
All you need to do then is to relist the phone on that auction site you said....in the proper area/listing....and you could make a profit without risk.
You could put it in dl mode and see if it is ready to take a flash.Or see if someone could hook up a screen to test,or see if you can borrow one/get sale or return.
And people on here help with tech problems,not get rich quick schemes......LOL
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theunderling said:
Ok I see now.
All you need to do then is to relist the phone on that auction site you said....in the proper area/listing....and you could make a profit without risk.
You could put it in dl mode and see if it is ready to take a flash.Or see if someone could hook up a screen to test,or see if you can borrow one/get sale or return.
And people on here help with tech problems,not get rich quick schemes......LOL
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Actually I could have bought the phone and relisted it in the proper category, you are right on that BUT I acually don't have any interest in making money with this phone, if it is fully working again, I probably will give it to my GF cause her crappy iFone will probalby be moving to the bin soon... You really probably missunderstood me in this case...
But thanks for you help! I'll see this evening if I can put it in download mode...
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If you know what network it's on, and you can find a way to get it switched on, you can put a compatible sim card into it and call it....if the phone rings (provided the volume is set right) you can assume it's good.........
That is.....assuming there's charge in the battery.......
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Thats also a good idea BUT afaik you need to enter a PIN code before the phone actually connects to the carrier/provider, isn't that correct?
Not necessarily......unless the phone has been set up that way post purchase.....as I said, you need to know what carrier the phone was with before, and simply go and get a sim card (pay as you go) for that carrier and put it in the phone....job done.
It's not necessary to enter a pin code here in the UK.....I don't know how the mobile operators operare with respect to that in Switzerland though......
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How about if you cant "borrow' a screen,just buy one off eBay from a seller that takes it back with a small restocking fee.
Then hook it up(without fixing it permanently) and see if any problems me/keith mentioned.
Look near the end of this video in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25438587
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Okay, i managed to connect the phone to my computer and it shows up in KIES! *yay*
Unfortunately, KIES shows: "The connected device is locked..."
But, as far as this looks like, the phone is working! Am I right on this?
I dont know much about kies as I dont use it.Maybe its not an unbranded phone and youve put in a different sim its not used to.
Unless someone has a better idea,I think buying the screen under the conditions I said earlier is the way to go.It may only lose you £15 at the worst.
Check the online imei checket first though to see if it throws amything up.
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theunderling said:
I dont know much about kies as I dont use it.Maybe its not an unbranded phone and youve put in a different sim its not used to.
Unless someone has a better idea,I think buying the screen under the conditions I said earlier is the way to go.It may only lose you £15 at the worst.
Check the online imei checket first though to see if it throws amything up.
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I haven't put in a SIM at all, as it is not neccesary to be able to use the phone.
I will buy a screen anyway, if I can't use it myself, I will give it to a frend who has also got a smashed S2.
Another question: Is it possible to hard reset the phone, without a working screen? Afaik you have to boot into recovery and select the reset from a menu, which is not really possible without having a working display... Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Someone has just posted this utility.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43448133
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Someone has just posted this utility.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43448133
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Thanks, but with the phone being locked, i cannot do anything, also not install any apps...
How can I reset the phone without the screen? Or can someone tell me which buttons to press in recovery menu to do a wipe/reset?
Thanks!
That in itself could cause you issues. You have to get the number of and order of presses exactly right otherwise you could end up formatting the system partition (os)
Aaaaand.....you don't know whether you're running 4.0.4 in which case, doing a wipe *may* permanently kill your phone (search emmc brickbug for the why/how)......
Realistically the only option is to obtain a screen......have you thought of taking the phone to an unofficial repairer, explaining the situation and asking for the temporary instore use of a screen? (You could even offer to pay a small fee.....just as a sweetener)
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nkb88 said:
Thanks, but with the phone being locked, i cannot do anything, also not install any apps...
How can I reset the phone without the screen? Or can someone tell me which buttons to press in recovery menu to do a wipe/reset?
Thanks!
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That mymobiler didnt look like an app to me.The other thing that was mentioned was an app that needed root.
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keithross39 said:
That in itself could cause you issues. You have to get the number of and order of presses exactly right otherwise you could end up formatting the system partition (os)
Aaaaand.....you don't know whether you're running 4.0.4 in which case, doing a wipe *may* permanently kill your phone (search emmc brickbug for the why/how)......
Realistically the only option is to obtain a screen......have you thought of taking the phone to an unofficial repairer, explaining the situation and asking for the temporary instore use of a screen? (You could even offer to pay a small fee.....just as a sweetener)
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
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You are right - thats really too risky. As I said, i'm going to order a screen now and we'll see how things work out! Thanks for your help! I'll keep this thread updated with my progess.
Cheers! :good:
nkb88 said:
You are right - thats really too risky. As I said, i'm going to order a screen now and we'll see how things work out! Thanks for your help! I'll keep this thread updated with my progess.
Cheers! :good:
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Got a new screen and everything is working smoothly!
Thanks for your support! :good:
PS: Any recommendable, FAST rom without too much bloatware?
Cheerio!
Lol....not gonna recommend a specific ROM as that's against XDAs rules......but if you want the stability of stock without the bloat, try one of the hybrid ROMs. Look for "samsung based" in the ROM sticky thread.....or do what I've done. ....stay with your stock firmware, but root it and debloat it.......
My Wife says I'm a phone geek.....
I'd have to agree.....
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Hi,
I read and followed lots of excellent threads on here and successfully rooted my S2. I then flashed it with the Revolution ROM which worked fine, later tried the VK + Siyah which also ran fine.
Today I decided to try WajkIUI but after flashing and rebooting, the phone reset, the button lights came on and then it hung. Now I can't get a thing out of it, no booting, no recovery mode and no sign of it in ODIN.
It sounds completely hard-bricked but I don't really understand how it can be.
Any ideas?
Have tried soft and hard resetting but nothing.
Cheers
Without recovery mode your last best (remote) chance before you send it to Samsung would be a jig.
That's what I was thinking but why would it hard brick if the flash had worked?
And if I send if back to Samsung the warranty will be void anyway won't it?
Unfortunately that one's like asking how long a piece of string is (in other words, who knows ?). If it's a case of the NAND being stuffed as a result of the flash, a JTAG repair may fix it, but you won't know that until/unless you send it to a JTAG repairer.
It may be a hardware issue, cpu might have carked it or something.
Yeah, you've pretty much voided the warranty by putting non-stock firmware on it, but at the end of the day if Samsung can't tell it's been messed with you might get away with a warranty repair/replacement.
You'll only know that if you send it in to them to be looked at. So I guess you've got two choices to consider (not including the remote chance of the jig getting you into download mode).
I guess you could try another battery. Always the possibility it might have died.
Crap. Well, I'll give a jig a go and if that doesn't work then send it back and see what happens.
@ op
did you tried the key press combination to get into download mode? the things you have done has a very less possibility of hard brick.
That's what I thought, but no combination seems to work.
Was the battery full when you flashed?
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Think it was about 96%.
You never know, it might just be a completely knackered battery. If you're planning on getting it fixed come what may, spending 20 bucks or whatever they cost in your country on another battery won't be the waste of money you might initially think.
If it doesn't fix this problem, at least you'll have a 2nd battery when you do get it fixed. I know I've found having a 2nd battery a godsend since I got mine a month ago, has come in really handy on trips where I've been away for more than a day and has meant I haven't had to worry bout bringing a charger along.
Could a battery just die like that? Seems a bit of coincidence.
Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. Yeah you're right, that would be coincidence. Given what you were doing when it died, I'm betting the NAND is shot & it will need to be JTAG'd either by Samsung or someone else.
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Could a battery just die like that? Seems a bit of coincidence.
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Which sucks. That said, according to a site in the UK it costs about £8 plus postage. Have ordered a USB jig just in case, and for £3 it's worth a go.
The really annoying thing is whether to root again if/when I do get it sorted. Am also checking with my network, see if they'll have a go under warranty and I'll forget to mention I was rooting it.
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Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. Yeah you're right, that would be coincidence. Given what you were doing when it died, I'm betting the NAND is shot & it will need to be JTAG'd either by Samsung or someone else.
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On that note....if I wanted to upgrade to ICS, how would that be done without rooting - ie. would the counter look the same? (Long shot)
Yeah if you're going to get it fixed, chances are you'll end up flashing/rooting it again, so the jig will come in handy.
I guess that's something you'll need to decide when you get it back/get a new one. What happened to you isn't the norm tho. The large majority of flashes go smoothly for most people. But the reality is, every time you do it, you do run that small risk of it barfing for any number of a gazillion reasons (which are normally impossible to discover once it's happened). That's the risk people like us who frequent sites like this take.
Yeah if they/Samsung can't tell what happened to it, you'll possibly get away with it. And the fact you rooted it isn't information you have to volunteer to them by any means As to exactly what you should tell them, that's up to you.
Edit to add - Let us know how you get on once you have it sorted. Always useful to have people's experiences on here to give other people it happens to some kind of idea of how it might go down.
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Which sucks. That said, according to a site in the UK it costs about £8 plus postage. Have ordered a USB jig just in case, and for £3 it's worth a go.
The really annoying thing is whether to root again if/when I do get it sorted. Am also checking with my network, see if they'll have a go under warranty and I'll forget to mention I was rooting it.
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Well, according to the boffins online I have to go into a store to see if they can repair it. Hopefully they won't be able to check whether it's been rooted or not instore. In fact, if they can't power it on, I don't see how they could.
Random technical question: how can a software/firmware fault stop the hardware from even starting?
My only reference is building a PC - even if you knacker the BIOS and the harddrive, it will still power on so you can access them to put them right.
mraquinn said:
Random technical question: how can a software/firmware fault stop the hardware from even starting?
My only reference is building a PC - even if you knacker the BIOS and the harddrive, it will still power on so you can access them to put them right.
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Firmware includes the boot sequence and recovery sequence on Android .
power goes to boot on file in effect
Or key combination goes to load recovery or download .
jje
Is that a bit of a flaw, for circumstances just like this?
And, does this mean that the USB jig has no chance of working - or is that the exact reason it might work?
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Firmware includes the boot sequence and recovery sequence on Android .
power goes to boot on file in effect
Or key combination goes to load recovery or download .
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i thing jig can solve the problem
Hi all, im new to this android rooting stuff, i have jailbroken many apple devices, but im a big noob with rooting.
ill start from the start, i rooted my samsung galaxy s2 (I9210T) the other day with a stock ROM, using Odin and what not, it worked, no issues, but some non-market apps werent working but because of the stock ROM. So i followed a link that led me to "XDA"
In a hurry to root my phone with a custom ROM, i accidentally used a rom made for the I777, it booted and it all worked, just not the touch buttons at the bottom, (obviously), so again i downloaded a new ROM to get these buttons to work, and thinking im smart, i thought i could skip a step, and instead of flashing the phone again with odin, i loaded the clockwork recovery, and loaded this new ROM, without unloading the other thinking it would work, rebooted it, BUT it didnt reboot, it wont stay on, attempting to get into recovery is futile, and the phone is completely unresponsive, the computer makes the USB connection noises everytime i plug it in and take it out, but thats it, i do realise what ive done is completely idiotic and stupid, but is there anyway possible to recover my phone without having to take it in, or get a JTAG done?
Thanks to anyone who has a solution.
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Hi all, im new to this android rooting stuff, i have jailbroken many apple devices, but im a big noob with rooting.
ill start from the start, i rooted my samsung galaxy s2 (I9210T) the other day with a stock ROM, using Odin and what not, it worked, no issues, but some non-market apps werent working but because of the stock ROM. So i followed a link that led me to "XDA"
In a hurry to root my phone with a custom ROM, i accidentally used a rom made for the I777, it booted and it all worked, just not the touch buttons at the bottom, (obviously), so again i downloaded a new ROM to get these buttons to work, and thinking im smart, i thought i could skip a step, and instead of flashing the phone again with odin, i loaded the clockwork recovery, and loaded this new ROM, without unloading the other thinking it would work, rebooted it, BUT it didnt reboot, it wont stay on, attempting to get into recovery is futile, and the phone is completely unresponsive, the computer makes the USB connection noises everytime i plug it in and take it out, but thats it, i do realise what ive done is completely idiotic and stupid, but is there anyway possible to recover my phone without having to take it in, or get a JTAG done?
Thanks to anyone who has a solution.
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well first sorry for ur present state ma8, if ur phone is not able to get into dwnld mode than its really difficult to do anything except for a JTAG done
just try using the three button combo Vol dwn + home + pwr butt and check for dwnld mode if u find success then flash a stock rom and u will get out of the situation
yeah, ive tried that so many times, too many to count, but, when doing it while its plugged into my computer, it makes the "USB disconnected" noise, which is weird.
i dont know where i can get a JTAG done, as i only recently saw it, not looked into it, im assuming phone repair shops do them? or can samsung do them even if the warruntee is voided, would they do it for a price? :s
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yeah, ive tried that so many times, too many to count, but, when doing it while its plugged into my computer, it makes the "USB disconnected" noise, which is weird.
i dont know where i can get a JTAG done, as i only recently saw it, not looked into it, im assuming phone repair shops do them? or can samsung do them even if the warruntee is voided, would they do it for a price? :s
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the samsung people will defenetly do it, please check the same with them regarding the price etc
Citrus94 said:
yeah, ive tried that so many times, too many to count, but, when doing it while its plugged into my computer, it makes the "USB disconnected" noise, which is weird.
i dont know where i can get a JTAG done, as i only recently saw it, not looked into it, im assuming phone repair shops do them? or can samsung do them even if the warruntee is voided, would they do it for a price? :s
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as u said u hear the usb connection sound when u connect ur phone
try using a usb jig
there may b chances of getting the phone in download mode
u can buy a usb jig from ebay
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the samsung people will defenetly do it, please check the same with them regarding the price etc
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well ill see about travelling into town after i find the price then, just hopefully it doesnt take long, will be away in a week :S
Thanks anyway sun90, just need to make sure there was nothing that can be done first, definately wont be making that mistake again LOL
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as u said u hear the usb connection sound when u connect ur phone
try using a usb jig
there may b chances of getting the phone in download mode
u can buy a usb jig from ebay
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that actually might work!! hope it does, atleast the jigs are cheap, orded one off ebay, should be here soon..... fingers crossed.
Erm, jig might help, but sounds like you've flashed a bad bootloader. Or a good bootloader, if you've got a I777. On the bright side, you've now got a really attractive paper weight. People will think your incredibly rich when you throw around a Galaxy S II just you just don't give a ****. Next time you're at a club single out the sluttiest girl there, go up to her and ask if she will have sex with you for a Galaxy S II, tell her the phone is out of battery, then go and do your business. When you hand over the phone make sure you are confident and humorous about it, give her a charging cable to make it look super legit. Oh and you should probably be wearing a balaclava throughout the whole process, you don't want her seeking revenge when she knows she's been used.
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Erm, jig might help, but sounds like you've flashed a bad bootloader. Or a good bootloader, if you've got a I777. On the bright side, you've now got a really attractive paper weight. People will think your incredibly rich when you throw around a Galaxy S II just you just don't give a ****. Next time you're at a club single out the sluttiest girl there, go up to her and ask if she will have sex with you for a Galaxy S II, tell her the phone is out of battery, then go and do your business. When you hand over the phone make sure you are confident and humorous about it, give her a charging cable to make it look super legit. Oh and you should probably be wearing a balaclava throughout the whole process, you don't want her seeking revenge when she knows she's been used.
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As funny as what you said is XD i dont think telstra will be too happy that im using my phone to get with chicks, maybe after the 24 months is up XD
funny stuff just happened, i sent my phone away to get fixed, and it took them two weeks +
way too long, and when i got it back, i didnt have to pay, and this is what the samsung team did, as follows: Removed and replaced LCD screen with a new one, removed and replaced FPCB, checked main PCB, software upgraded, cleaned contacts, re-aligned connectors, reset to manufacturers specifications.
in other words, thanks to my Jig i bought off ebay, THEY DIDNT HAVE A CLUE WTH HAPPENED WITH IT!, but far out, what a repair eh?
Take a look at this, they can resurrect hard bricked phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429491
The total price is about £40 I think, hopefully it can be fixed! good luck!
Hey guys, sorry for another topic, however I actually do know what is wrong with my phone and know it needs to be JTAG repaired..
however... I was wondering if anyone knew the root cause of this (no pun intended).. I was flashing JellyBam v5.0 (custom [email protected]~) and mid installation, phone froze, powered down and is now bricked. Any reason why it would do that mid install? Battery was 95%+
cheers
rsr1 said:
Hey guys, sorry for another topic, however I actually do know what is wrong with my phone and know it needs to be JTAG repaired..
however... I was wondering if anyone knew the root cause of this (no pun intended).. I was flashing JellyBam v5.0 (custom [email protected]~) and mid installation, phone froze, powered down and is now bricked. Any reason why it would do that mid install? Battery was 95%+
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Please state more details. Rom, kernel, modem, odin, cwm, etc
He did. Regardless, none of that info would be relevant/useful in this case anyway, phone's borked.
@OP - Honestly, that's impossible to say. Something hardware related in the phone, something simple like the battery contacts not making a proper connection, something on the PC side even (temporary issue with the connection b/w the PC & phone) ? The possibilities are endless.
Have it looked at by a JTAG repairer & if that can't be done, maybe try and source a motherboard from a donor phone (broken screen or whatever). That will be the cheaper option than having Samsung replace the MB if it can't be JTAG'd, even if you pay a local mobile repair shop to install the 'new' MB (if you're not confident enough to DIY).
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Please state more details. Rom, kernel, modem, odin, cwm, etc
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He did. Regardless, none of that info would be relevant/useful in this case anyway, phone's borked.
@OP - Honestly, that's impossible to say. Something hardware related in the phone, something simple like the battery contacts not making a proper connection, something on the PC side even (temporary issue with the connection b/w the PC & phone) ? The possibilities are endless.
Have it looked at by a JTAG repairer & if that can't be done, maybe try and source a motherboard from a donor phone (broken screen or whatever). That will be the cheaper option than having Samsung replace the MB if it can't be JTAG'd, even if you pay a local mobile repair shop to install the 'new' MB (if you're not confident enough to DIY).
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Yeah you are right it could be anything happening within the phone without my knowledge, luckily phone was connected to mains when i was flashing using CWM so no problems there, but i don't think i will find the reason why it actually happened as you said the possibilities are endless
I'm trying to get in touch with a place that does JTAG repairs at the moment, however im just scared they say it can't be done. Havent really got the money to fork out for a new MB. I bought the phone second hand last year (april) where i was told it was only 3-4weeks old however had no old purchase details. Is there any way for me to check if the warranty is still valid or does it become void after resale? Thanks
There used to be an online warranty checker on one of Samsung's regional websites (can't remember which, maybe someone else does ?) where you could put the serial number in & get the warranty end date, but I recall people on here saying it either went away or didn't work anymore at some point last year.
But I doubt you'd get warranty service without the original receipt anyway, and even if you had it, I'm not sure the warranty is transferable beyond the original purchaser (Someone else please correct me if they know of cases where the warranty has been honoured regardless, I realise this might vary from country to country).
Unless the phone has physical damage as opposed to the NAND simply being scrambled beyond all recognition which normally happens when a flash goes wrong like that, you'd probably expect it to be JTAG'able.
If it's not, as I said in my PP, a board from a 'donor' phone would be much cheaper to both buy/have installed than paying a Samsung authorised repairer to put a new MB in (apparently they charge in the vicinity of half what a new phone would cost retail).
Edit - Re: getting a 'donor' phone for the MB, here's an example of what I'm talking about; no doubt you'll probably pick one up cheaper, just thought I'd give you an example of what to look for if you end up needing to go down that path.
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I'm trying to get in touch with a place that does JTAG repairs at the moment, however im just scared they say it can't be done. Havent really got the money to fork out for a new MB. I bought the phone second hand last year (april) where i was told it was only 3-4weeks old however had no old purchase details. Is there any way for me to check if the warranty is still valid or does it become void after resale? Thanks
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There used to be an online warranty checker on one of Samsung's regional websites (can't remember which, maybe someone else does ?) where you could put the serial number in & get the warranty end date, but I recall people on here saying it either went away or didn't work anymore at some point last year.
But I doubt you'd get warranty service without the original receipt anyway, and even if you had it, I'm not sure the warranty is transferable beyond the original purchaser (Someone else please correct me if they know of cases where the warranty has been honoured regardless, I realise this might vary from country to country).
Unless the phone has physical damage as opposed to the NAND simply being scrambled beyond all recognition which normally happens when a flash goes wrong like that, you'd probably expect it to be JTAG'able.
If it's not, as I said in my PP, a board from a 'donor' phone would be much cheaper to both buy/have installed than paying a Samsung authorised repairer to put a new MB in (apparently they charge in the vicinity of half what a new phone would cost retail).
Edit - Re: getting a 'donor' phone for the MB, here's an example of what I'm talking about; no doubt you'll probably pick one up cheaper, just thought I'd give you an example of what to look for if you end up needing to go down that path.
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I think you're right on that one, if i don't even have proof of purchase then I don't think warranty will be valid. Thanks anyway on that behalf. Yeah it is only that one issue nothing else is wrong physically so i am hoping for the best and do believe a JTAG should get me out of this situation without a problem (fingers crossed).
On the topic of a replacement motherboard thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction if JTAG fails. Buying a cheap phone as such is a great idea and taking a working motherboard for a lot cheaper than RRP is wonderful.
Thankyou very much for your input & help ::highfive:
I have the EXACT same problem...
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Simmyen said:
I have the EXACT same problem...
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It happened to both of us whilst installing JellyBam v5, so surely there must be a problem with the ROM? We encountered the exact same issue 100% and are both left in the same position now due to the ROM
rsr1 said:
It happened to both of us whilst installing JellyBam v5, so surely there must be a problem with the ROM? We encountered the exact same issue 100% and are both left in the same position now due to the ROM
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I have the exact same problem yeah, but i know a friend of mine who used the same ROM as we did.. it worked for him though
Always try a Jig before JTAG, no harm there.
If warrantu isn't voided, make sure it's really bricked so you can claim it with the "I was updating it via wifi and dropped dead" rutine.
No probs. Just sorry we couldn't be of more help. Best of luck (Hope it ends up being easily JTAG'able for you).
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Thankyou very much for your input & help ::highfive:
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Hi, Hope i am in the correct forum,
i am using galaxy s2 i9100 and was running stock ICS rom+kernal, singapore ROM. No flashing was done, other than official OTA updates
I have encountered a rather strange problem. My phone was acting a bit strange before i did anything (Fast battery drains) , so i did a factory reset as recommended by samsung.
It seemed to solved the issue, then i decided to enable force GPU in developer options, and then my phone started acting up. It would not want to shut down (the lights of the keypad wont go off), and now it wont want to turn on
I have tried reinserting battery, letting it charge, but all i got was the camera part of the phone getting hot. Nothing else, no display, nothing
I cant even enter recovery/download mode (accessed by reinsert battery + Hold Vol buttons+Home + power button right?)
What can i do to resolve this? Strangely enough, I am running totally stock ROM and Kernal. I have no knowledge on how to use odin and all. I have no more warranty, so i can only ask for your help. Any help would be really appreciated
arn.yong said:
Hi, Hope i am in the correct forum,
i am using galaxy s2 i9100 and was running stock ICS rom+kernal, singapore ROM. No flashing was done, other than official OTA updates
I have encountered a rather strange problem. My phone was acting a bit strange before i did anything (Fast battery drains) , so i did a factory reset as recommended by samsung.
It seemed to solved the issue, then i decided to enable force GPU in developer options, and then my phone started acting up. It would not want to shut down (the lights of the keypad wont go off), and now it wont want to turn on
I have tried reinserting battery, letting it charge, but all i got was the camera part of the phone getting hot. Nothing else, no display, nothing
I cant even enter recovery/download mode (accessed by reinsert battery + Hold Vol buttons+Home + power button right?)
What can i do to resolve this? Strangely enough, I am running totally stock ROM and Kernal. I have no knowledge on how to use odin and all. I have no more warranty, so i can only ask for your help. Any help would be really appreciated
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which Stock ICS rom u ver into was it 4.0.4?
Have you tried with a different battery? Maybe your battery is damaged.
Usb jig▶jtag▶motherboard.
Hope its the 1st one.
{go back to your iphone since you are an android noob}
Sun90 said:
which Stock ICS rom u ver into was it 4.0.4?
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Thanks for the reply
Yes, I was on Stock ICS 4.0.4, updated somewhere in november last year
agonn said:
Have you tried with a different battery? Maybe your battery is damaged.
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Yes, I have tried with the original samsung battery and the samsung extended battery
theunderling said:
Usb jig▶jtag▶motherboard.
Hope its the 1st one.
{go back to your iphone since you are an android noob}
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Where can i find a USB jig? Might be worth a shot
And personally i hate all apple products, and i never use their products before
I have been using android for nearly 2 years, except that i never dared to delve into root/flash as i did not want to void warranties.
There's a thread in General where people offer to lend their jigs to other people. Check; there might be someone near you who can help. Alternatively, search eBay (and probably elsewhere online) "Samsung Galaxy S2 jig". Costs a few dollars.
Re: the Apple thing, it's his sig. He didn't post "go back to your iPhone since you are an Android n00b".
arn.yong said:
Where can i find a USB jig? Might be worth a shot
And personally i hate all apple products, and i never use their products before
I have been using android for nearly 2 years, except that i never dared to delve into root/flash as i did not want to void warranties.
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MistahBungle said:
There's a thread in General where people offer to lend their jigs to other people. Check; there might be someone near you who can help. Alternatively, search eBay (and probably elsewhere online) "Samsung Galaxy S2 jig". Costs a few dollars.
Re: the Apple thing, it's his sig. He didn't post "go back to your iPhone since you are an Android n00b".
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Oh i see, i didnt know it was his sig...oops
Ok, I'll see if i can find/get my hands on a jig somewhere around...Just hoping to bring this expensive brick back to life....somehow
Actually, now that I look at it. I'm not sure it is his sig, per se. It seems to be a standard line he ads to his posts. Perhaps TheUnderling can clarify ?
Good luck. If the jig is no go, given your warranty isn't good, look for JTAG repairers. Do a Google search, or look here, or ask local mobile repair shops. If it ends up not being JTAG'able, as TheUnderling mentioned, you'll need a motherboard replacement. If you get to that point, you can either source one from a 'donor' phone (broken screen or whatever; search eBay), or you can pay Samsung/authorised repairer to replace it.
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Oh i see, i didnt know it was his sig...oops
Ok, I'll see if i can find/get my hands on a jig somewhere around...Just hoping to bring this expensive brick back to life....somehow
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Hey T, I told you it was my new sig.
I may have to remove it as its getting too much attention
{go back to your iphone since you are an android noob}
Looks like you've caught a few already
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Hey T, I told you it was my new sig.
I may have to remove it as its getting too much attention
{go back to your iphone since you are an android noob}
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So maybe the question from the title is a little bit unclear.
The problem that i had with my phone is that one day, i got a message that a new android version appeared(4.1.2)...and obviously i clicked to download it. After the download and install when it was time to enter in my new version, a screen where a password was required appeared, saying something that my phone is encrypted, and a pass is needed to make i work...Problem is that i didn't have a previous password...
So anyway i restarted the phone...and android didn't even brought me to that screen...it just wouldn't load...So i decided to take matters in my own hands (not the best decision i made that day)...
I searched online how to do that...i found about odin..installed it ...and then tried to install android...Problem is that odin gave me errors when trying to upload the kit or something (i was in download mode with the phone)..when odin gave errors i either disconected the cable from the phone, or in some cases i got pissed off and removed the battery...
My question is...could i have broken my phone permanently by doing that ? Like i don't know...in a way..that neither an expert could fix it?
Thanks
You can scramble the NAND so badly it has to be replaced if a flash goes bad/you flash something you shouldn't be flashing (or if you do dopey things like pull a USB cable in the middle of a flash), and the way that's done is by replacing the motherboard, so you can certainly cause damage that costs money to repair, but it can pretty much always be repaired one way or another.
I seriously doubt you could bork a phone completely beyond all repair via firmware/software & without physically damaging components.
No physical damage was made to the phone...
Assuming all the alien language things that you said ...so the worst case scenario...do you have any idea how much a new motherboard would cost?
Varies widely depending on country/how much labor costs in your country. Samsung don't sell new motherboards on their own, you can either pay an authorised service centre to put a new one in (most expensive option, you normally keep your existing IMEI), or you can get a 2nd hand board from a broken/'donor' phone (How much you'll pay for one again highly variable depending on how much someone wants for their busted phone, search eBay/Google) & either swap it into your phone yourself, or if you're not confident with that sort of thing pay a local mobile repair shop to swap the boards for you (least expensive option, your IMEI will change to that of the phone the board came from).
Edit - If what I said in my PP was 'alien', I'd suggest you shouldn't have been messing with your phone in the first place & should probably avoid same when you get it fixed as well.
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So maybe the question from the title is a little bit unclear.
The problem that i had with my phone is that one day, i got a message that a new android version appeared(4.1.2)...and obviously i clicked to download it. After the download and install when it was time to enter in my new version, a screen where a password was required appeared, saying something that my phone is encrypted, and a pass is needed to make i work...Problem is that i didn't have a previous password...
So anyway i restarted the phone...and android didn't even brought me to that screen...it just wouldn't load...So i decided to take matters in my own hands (not the best decision i made that day)...
I searched online how to do that...i found about odin..installed it ...and then tried to install android...Problem is that odin gave me errors when trying to upload the kit or something (i was in download mode with the phone)..when odin gave errors i either disconected the cable from the phone, or in some cases i got pissed off and removed the battery...
My question is...could i have broken my phone permanently by doing that ? Like i don't know...in a way..that neither an expert could fix it?
Thanks
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Long story short, Yes your device could be "Broken" in such a way that the only option is to replace the motherboard. You atleast tried reading and doing something, dude there are several thread regarding this matter try different strategies, try out your luck, ask questions, but don't get your hopes too high.
Sorry pal, I wish you the best of all the luck in this tiny planet of ours.
Edit : sorry I was too late, I actually started the reply almost after you posted it but I went away had a coffee then completed it.
Edit: lol to actually make a phone completely unrecoverable you might need a sledgehammer, no software related issue in the world can completely damage an electronic device(unless that software was related to triggering a nuke).
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