I'm not new to rooting, I've rooted Samsung phones, Motorola and nexus. This is my first HTC phone and man is everything different. Could some one please explain to me what S-off is using dummy terms lol. I mean if I root but stay s-on can you still flash Roms?
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Getting Soff can unlock you boot loader and if u do it through htc devs it unlocks your our boot loader but keeps Son but it's you use revone , it would unlock Son to soff and you are able to change CID and flash radios thru hboot but you can flash any rom that is compatible to the htc one but just unlocking the bootloader. You don't necessary need soff to flash Roma but it's good to have off thru if u want to return you phone back to the carrier and remove Tampered and return done back to stock !!!!
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Billyrouth said:
I'm not new to rooting, I've rooted Samsung phones, Motorola and nexus. This is my first HTC phone and man is everything different. Could some one please explain to me what S-off is using dummy terms lol. I mean if I root but stay s-on can you still flash Roms?
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I'm not sure the last post was clear for a NOOB. S-On / Off refers to the security of the device. With S-On, the phone will only allow you to flash things built for your device. This prevents you from messing up the phone by flashing the wrong stuff or wrong area of the memory.
You can unlock your phone without S-Off, root it, and flash any ROMs you like, so long as they are for your particular phone model.
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I'm not sure the last post was clear for a NOOB. S-On / Off refers to the security of the device. With S-On, the phone will only allow you to flash things built for your device. This prevents you from messing up the phone by flashing the wrong stuff or wrong area of the memory.
You can unlock your phone without S-Off, root it, and flash any ROMs you like, so long as they are for your particular phone model.
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and can you return to stock without S-Off? Should the need arise…..
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and can you return to stock without S-Off? Should the need arise…..
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Yes, just flash an RUU.
metropical said:
and can you return to stock without S-Off? Should the need arise…..
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Are the official ruu's on the HTC website?
I would like to find the official ROM with the 1.44hboot
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I have s off but my phone says locked. Is that normal or do I need to unlock again?
I want to flash Scotts new roms and just curious.
thanks
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No DO NOT unlock because if you do, you will need to S-on before you are able to re-lock and return your phone to stock.
You need to flash the patched HBOOT for whichever firmware you are currently running (GB or ICS) and the "locked" will go away in addition to full use of fastboot commands.
Or just flash amonra as a ph98img.zip file.... After that just download a rom and boot to recovery and flash the new rom from there.
Definitely don't unlock though... If you do you will always show unlocked or relocked.
I had to s on then back off because I made that mistake and unlocked when it first came out. If you don't use adb commands there's no real reason to switch hboot.
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I thought you needed to be unlocked to do s-off? Or does s-off change
Phaded said:
I thought you needed to be unlocked to do s-off? Or does s-off change
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You do need unlocked to do it but when you get s off your phone goes to locked unless you flash the correct hboot
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So witch hboot is the correct one? My fiance just got this phone and due to her horrible computer I spent 6.5 hours doing everything up to this point this evening.. I installed Scott's newest ROM... Just wondering where to go from here and **IF** its possible to OC on this ROM? I have the worst phone ever DX2, but this is my 3'rd android phone and am decently well aware of the android O.S.
Thanks ~ Jake
EDIT: I also understand the search function, however, this forum is so vast I simply don't have the time to read 100+ pages per post to find one line of information ... sorry if its a dumb or -noob- question... thanks again
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Jacob.pel said:
So witch hboot is the correct one? My fiance just got this phone and due to her horrible computer I spent 6.5 hours doing everything up to this point this evening.. I installed Scott's newest ROM... Just wondering where to go from here and **IF** its possible to OC on this ROM? I have the worst phone ever DX2, but this is my 3'rd android phone and am decently well aware of the android O.S.
Thanks ~ Jake
EDIT: I also understand the search function, however, this forum is so vast I simply don't have the time to read 100+ pages per post to find one line of information ... sorry if its a dumb or -noob- question... thanks again
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Depends on which firmware you are on and what you want to do. You can simply do the S-off process without flashing the jb hboot to get to S-off. Then flash recovery in your bootloader (use a PH98IMG.zip) to be able to flash your Rom. If you want fastboot commands while still being locked, either use the jb hboot or the modified hboot in the dev section, depending on your current hboot version.
You can OC the phone, but ICS kernels have perflock enabled, so scaling doesn't work great. Options are better on GB.
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I thought I read we can still root this software update
But have to use HTC dev plus a script
Anyone confirm this and have a link to what I need to root the update
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Yeah but it uses the HTC unlock, so...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Root will always be available.
HTC gave us a root method
But the annoying thing is that HTC gave us a root method that wipes your phone first.
I'm still waiting for a new temp root exploit so that I can run Titanium Backup first before I do the dev unlock.
I wonder if anybody is actually working on one, or if everybody just takes it on faith that *somebody* must be.
I bet if the HTC method wasn't there, people would be trying harder to find one.
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This tool works like a charm, and HTC has no idea you are rooted. I used it last night - took about 10 min. You pretty much download drivers and this app, and run the app. Very easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
What's wrong with HTC Unlock?
I used HTC Unlock and it was a breeze. Given being a noob since this is my first HTC device i've tinkered with, it was quite painless
The only things wrong with it are that:
1. It wipes all your customizations so you have to start over from scratch, or from what some non-root backup app can restore which isn't much.
2. It doesn't give you S-Off, so you can't flash radio updates, but to me that's no big deal.
The biggest issue with HTC dev on the newest H-boot is that you cannot flash kernels normally through recovery
Never accept an OTA. S-Off is soooooo convenient
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This tool works like a charm, and HTC has no idea you are rooted. I used it last night - took about 10 min. You pretty much download drivers and this app, and run the app. Very easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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Pretty sure they still know. It still has to extreact info from the phone to get token to unlock phone. You just don't see it happening but the program is contacting HTC to unlock the phone.
klbjr said:
Pretty sure they still know. It still has to extreact info from the phone to get token to.
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It is incognito.
I thought TWRP / HTC Dumlock could now flash kernels with S-OFF:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/team-win-recovery-project-2-2-1-adds-dumlock-for-boot-flashing-on-latest-evo-4g-lte-firmware.html
Regaw uses minimal user information in the unlocking process.
With that said, you can never be sure HTC doesn't know you unlocked it. Frankly, Its not going to matter if they know or know when your boot loader says relocked.
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Rxpert said:
The biggest issue with HTC dev on the newest H-boot is that you cannot flash kernels normally through recovery
Never accept an OTA. S-Off is soooooo convenient
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You can flash kernels with HTC dev unlock.
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I'm s off and I wanna get the new update complete with root and keep my s off can u guide me what to do and I don't have recovery yet I just rooted and then apply s off and that's all
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tech7 said:
I'm s off and I wanna get the new update complete with root and keep my s off can u guide me what to do and I don't have recovery yet I just rooted and then apply s off and that's all
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This thread has information about flashing a custom recovery in the OP and also links to the stock rooted roms that you can flash in recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830098
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pbarrett said:
I thought TWRP / HTC Dumlock could now flash kernels with S-OFF:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/team-win-recovery-project-2-2-1-adds-dumlock-for-boot-flashing-on-latest-evo-4g-lte-firmware.html
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With S-OFF you can flash anything you want. You dont need dumlock
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You can flash kernels with HTC dev unlock.
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Not through the normal channels with the new H-boot
Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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I would like to know this also
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pbarrett said:
Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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The kernel in the ROM doesnt get flashed. When going from sense to sense it isnt an issue because its still the stock HTC kernel
If you try flashing cm10 without pushing the boot.img the phone wont boot because it has an AOSP ROM and sense kernel
Abnormal channels would be your fastboot flash, htc dumlock, or flashgui
What's the problem.with not being able to flash the kernal thur recovery? You can still push it via fastboot. It not so much of an inconvenience that you would want to not have root and do tons of cool **** to your phone. Who cares if HTC knows you are unlocked? BFD!
Unlock your phone and enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed except flashing radios and kernal via recovery.
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should i need s-off to install a international firmware on my at&t one ?
or else i can do it with s-on ?
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should i need s-off to install a international firmware on my at&t one ?
or else i can do it with s-on ?
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Yes you need to be s-off in order to install firmware that does not match your CID or MID.
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You need s-off if you are going to run a different carriers ruu if you want to run a custom rom from the international forum you can be s-on or s-off
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should i need s-off to install a international firmware on my at&t one ?
or else i can do it with s-on ?
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I just went through this process and S-OFF is not enough, you also need to change your MID otherwise OTAs will fail. I will write something up soon on what I did to convert my ATT to International ROM.
Just got my One today, coming from an S-Off One X. Is getting S-Off deemed important on the One?
##Update##
Realized how easy it was to obtain S-Off compared to the HTC One X (which admittedly was pretty easy already) and went ahead and did it anyways
Honestly if you need to ask this type of question do not attempt it, just because its on here doesnt mean its a necessity...htc dev unlock the phone and flash a custom rom and be happy with that for now until youve read read and read some more....
Just wanted some Insight
I got a new but preowned one from a guy he mentioned that it got s update ..some update recently for the software that patches the ability to soff .
What did this update supposedly fix or add?
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Just wanted some Insight
I got a new but preowned one from a guy he mentioned that it got s update ..some update recently for the software that patches the ability to soff .
What did this update supposedly fix or add?
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I am guessing it is for Tmobile?
I have that same version.
It disables revone or moonshine for working so essentially s-off.
I was able to still unlock the bootloader via HTCDev and root using TWRP and SuperSU.
Not really sure what s-off does, since I am able to load custom roms and etc. with current setup anyways....
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S-off lets us convert to the full GPE version and get ota. I hope devs find a way of getting s-off on 531.11
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Htein said:
I am guessing it is for Tmobile?
I have that same version.
It disables revone or moonshine for working so essentially s-off.
I was able to still unlock the bootloader via HTCDev and root using TWRP and SuperSU.
Not really sure what s-off does, since I am able to load custom roms and etc. with current setup anyways....
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s-off is security check off. it stops the bootloader from checking for signatures pretty much letting you flash Whatever aslong as the recovery accepts it. can also turn off the recoveries signature check but thats alot easier to do as the recovery alows you to do so freely.
And anyone wouldnt happen to know more info on this would they. as ive noticed sense i did the manual OTA update via HTC's site, regaining s-off is proving to be imensley didficult. "i s-on'd whiel debugging things and regret it lol"
From what I have been able to gather the updated 1.44 or 1.54 cannot be s-offed using revone or moonshine currently.
I'm pretty happy right now, all I care about is GPe 4.3 anyways. Running of 4.3 ROM, firmware, and radio with just unlocked boot loader
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how do i root the htc one m8 I am familiar with rooting as i had a s4 rooted with gpe but i am confused with the htc one m8 plz help
xCellHD said:
how do i root the htc one m8 I am familiar with rooting as i had a s4 rooted with gpe but i am confused with the htc one m8 plz help
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How to root (with links) is explained on my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Also, much of the "HTC specific" lingo is explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
I would suggest reading up (and making sure you understand all the terms and processes) for at least a couple hours before trying anything on the phone. I do this every time I buy a new device, even having own quite a few HTC phones. In fact, I usually start reading and researching before I have the phone in hand.
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
xCellHD said:
also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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If your talking about ROM, then take a full backup of your ROM before flashing custom ROM using titanium/nandroid etc.
Or if your talking about root,
Just unroot using unroot apps from play store or the respected app you get after rooting.
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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As the above reply stated, it depends on what you are talking about.
If you just want the stock ROM, recovery, etc. one option is to relock the bootloader and just run the RUU. It will return you to stock software. The only thing not "stock" will be the bootloader will say RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. You need s-off to make it say LOCKED again (after unlocking it).
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so this is what i want to do i want to unlock bootloader then root which i know how to do but i was woundering would i be able to install this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367
would i be able to install that rom soon as i am done unlocking the bootloader and rooting or would i have extra stuff sorry for the dumb questions
xCellHD said:
so this is what i want to do i want to unlock bootloader then root which i know how to do but i was woundering would i be able to install this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367
would i be able to install that rom soon as i am done unlocking the bootloader and rooting or would i have extra stuff sorry for the dumb questions
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What are your current hboot and radio numbers?
redpoint73 said:
What are your current hboot and radio numbers?
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my hboot is 3.19 and my radio is [email protected]
xCellHD said:
my hboot is 3.19 and my radio is [email protected]
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You should be good to go, then. Just unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery and flash the Skydragon ROM you linked.
would i need to be s-off and would i be able to go back stock and relock the bootloader with s-on again sorry for the manny questions i am new to this phone
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would i need to be s-off and would i be able to go back stock and relock the bootloader with s-on again sorry for the manny questions i am new to this phone
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You can return to stock with a RELOCKED bootloader with s-on.
You do need s-off if you want to make the bootloader say LOCKED as it was from the factory. But the only reason to ever do this is for warranty purposes. And if you bought the phone from AT&T, you should note that your warranty is through AT&T, not HTC. And AT&T doesn't give a crap if the bootloader is unlocked, or whatever (folks have even successfully sent in phones for warranty with custom ROMs on them).
If you are seeing warranty service through HTC (you didn't purchase from AT&T) that is another story. But that is the only reason I'd bother going back to LOCKED.
In normal usage, I recommend leaving the bootloader UNLOCKED as it give you more flexibility to flash ROMs whenever you want, etc. The only reason IMO to relock the bootloader in normal usage is to run the RUU.
S-off is nice have if you want to flash radios, modified hboots, and some other things (you also don't need to relock to RUU with s-off). It certainly doesn't hurt, and some folks like to make the phone as customizable as possible right away. In fact, I did s-off to the phone the second day I had it (although s-off was free back then). But for you, its not strictly "needed" at this time unless you want to do the things mentioned.
so heres the thing again sorry for the manny questions i am just making sure if i do this everything will work so heres the thing the rom i linked if i were to flash it will my at&t sevice work since it would be a different baseband
can you link me the latest twrp recovery for the at&t htc m8 so i can flash once i unlock the boatloader
xCellHD said:
can you link me the latest twrp recovery for the at&t htc m8 so i can flash once i unlock the boatloader
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https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
the latest twrp 2.8.6.0 should work with my at&t m8 ?
xCellHD said:
so heres the thing again sorry for the manny questions i am just making sure if i do this everything will work so heres the thing the rom i linked if i were to flash it will my at&t sevice work since it would be a different baseband
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The baseband isn't determined by the ROM, its determined by flashing a different baseband/radio (which requires s-off).
There are some folks that have had issues on AT&T's LTE network using some custom ROMs. Namely, not receiving or sending voice calls while on LTE. But this seems somewhat random, and not the ROMs fault per se; but probably changes that AT&T is making to their network. The most you can do is flash the Skydragon ROM, and if you have problems, try another ROM or revert to stock.
Make a backup of your stock ROM with TWRP before you flash anything, to be sure you have something to revert to if you have problems. This is good general advice before you flash any custom ROMs, root mods, etc.
I'm using the ROM your linked (Skydragon Sense 7) on AT&T, and it works fine for me.