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Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
chimpsnest said:
Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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qhinton said:
Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
Maedhros said:
TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
I don't know if anyone else has heard, but I first read reports of the up-and-coming Samsung Galaxy Player (YP-GP1) on Naver (a Korean search engine). Thereafter, I did a Google search and found lots of intriguing articles, with the attached below being one of the more in-detail articles. This is pretty exciting and I know I am not the only one who is hoping for Samsung to release a 5-inch variant again. (Perhaps even Galaxy Note sized?)
Anyway, for more details check out the article and by all means, hit Google up.
Please, also, feel free to share any more insight, thoughts, ideas, opinions, etc.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-galaxy-player/
yes, we've heard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802958
btw, i'm waiting for this device and i hope it'll have a bt handsfree profile enabled, like with 3.6 and 4.2
Just buy a Nexus 7...It is faster, larger screen and will probably be cheaper than this new player...
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Just buy a Nexus 7...It is faster, larger screen and will probably be cheaper than this new player...
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there are some advantages to having SGP 5 over nexus 7
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there are some advantages to having SGP 5 over nexus 7
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Namely, the Nexus 7's lack of expandable storage via microSD.
baladev said:
yes, we've heard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802958
btw, i'm waiting for this device and i hope it'll have a bt handsfree profile enabled, like with 3.6 and 4.2
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Just buy a Nexus 7...It is faster, larger screen and will probably be cheaper than this new player...
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A Nexus 7 is a genius ploy to make buyers aim towards the $250 16gb version as to avoid running out of space. That's the only reason they offer it for $200 @ 8gb, because they know the majority will go, "Hmm, I need more space then 8gb, $50 more isn't that bad".
Also with the Nexus 7 you lose portability (and I don't mean carrying in a bag, I mean being able to slip it into a binder, or in your pocket).
If you have lots of stuff that you want to keep with you... Get a galaxy player because it can have up to over 70GB of storage with the new 64gb microSDs, while a Nexus 7 can have a max of 16gb... total.
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A Nexus 7 is a genius ploy to make buyers aim towards the $250 16gb version as to avoid running out of space. That's the only reason they offer it for $200 @ 8gb, because they know the majority will go, "Hmm, I need more space then 8gb, $50 more isn't that bad".
Also with the Nexus 7 you lose portability (and I don't mean carrying in a bag, I mean being able to slip it into a binder, or in your pocket).
If you have lots of stuff that you want to keep with you... Get a galaxy player because it can have up to over 70GB of storage with the new 64gb microSDs, while a Nexus 7 can have a max of 16gb... total.
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Portability and space (or lack of it) become pretty insignificant when you consider it gets updates straight from Google and is almost un-brickable. It also has a very very powerful Tegra 3 processor and comes with £15 (or $25) of play store credit. I got my Nexus 7 16GB for £190 and now I'm seriously considering never buying a non Nexus device again. It's that good
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I got my Nexus 7 16GB for £190 and now I'm seriously considering never buying a non Nexus device again. It's that good
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I recently bought a Huawei MediaPad 7" and am very happy with it as well. Alluminium body, 3G, expandable memory, beautiful IPS screen. Many rewievers compare the build quality of it with that of an iPad. No joke, the device is very solid. Now, that i owe a tablet with 3G i think one without it (and especially without expandable memory) is a crippled device. Samsung Galaxy 5 though is a different kind of animal, it's as big as a device can get before becoming unpocketable, something you can just slip into your pocket and go. Plus, if Samsung puts a bt handsfree profile into it, the way they did with a 3.6 and 4.2, it will be possible to use it as a handsfree in combination with a larger 3G-enabled tablet (which is exactly what i do now with my Mediapad and SG 3.6).
I can't verify the authenticity of the information found on this link, but should this be a valid source,
here are some very detailed specs of the YP-GP1 32GB.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3787&view=1&c=samsung_yp-gp1_galaxy_player_5.8_32gb
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I can't verify the authenticity of the information found on this link, but should this be a valid source,
here are some very detailed specs of the YP-GP1 32GB
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I suspect that the screen size is 900(not 960) X560. It would then have the same aspect ratio and ppi as the GP5.0 and would be a better fit for the 3.4" width.
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Portability and space (or lack of it) become pretty insignificant when you consider it gets updates straight from Google and is almost un-brickable. It also has a very very powerful Tegra 3 processor and comes with £15 (or $25) of play store credit. I got my Nexus 7 16GB for £190 and now I'm seriously considering never buying a non Nexus device again. It's that good
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Maybe for you portability and space is insignifikant but for me no...i also have a media pad 7 which is fine tablet and 3g with 30gb data plan on it but i find 7 inch is to big to cary around everyway i go and 5.0 is just big enough to be always in pocket.You cant let say walk and listen to music on nexus 7 ..you would look
wierd if you ask me..but at home i use tablet much more but whem i am out its SGP 5..i also have android phone but i use it for calling and sms and sharing internet to sgp..i dont want that surfing on net battery dies when i need to call someone.
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A Nexus 7 is a genius ploy to make buyers aim towards the $250 16gb version as to avoid running out of space. That's the only reason they offer it for $200 @ 8gb, because they know the majority will go, "Hmm, I need more space then 8gb, $50 more isn't that bad".
Also with the Nexus 7 you lose portability (and I don't mean carrying in a bag, I mean being able to slip it into a binder, or in your pocket).
If you have lots of stuff that you want to keep with you... Get a galaxy player because it can have up to over 70GB of storage with the new 64gb microSDs, while a Nexus 7 can have a max of 16gb... total.
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I though the SGP only supports MicroSD's up to 32GB?
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I though the SGP only supports MicroSD's up to 32GB?
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Yes it officialy supports 32Gb but many people tryed 64 gb and it works no problem.
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I Present the Galaxy Player 5.8 (YP-GP1) Instruction Manual (설명서)
I hope that some of you may be able to find this of some use. I was browsing the Naver Cafes and found a PDF of the instruction manual for the Galaxy Player 5.8, or otherwise known as the YP-GP1. My apologies for those of you that don't understand Korean, however there are lots of pictures, you'll at least have a better understanding of the overall layout of the device's appearance; among other things.
As an aside, for those of you that aren't aware, the Galaxy Player 5.8 was just released on the Korean market today (9/11/2012), although I have no idea of pricing or international release dates.
P.S. - The file size surpassed XDA's limit, so I uploaded it here. I can assure this file is a PDF and that it is safe to download.
HERE: https://anonfiles.com/file/072d74f76b8d1e79a5e0188112c6be49
Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
Good to know that it's already released in Korea
Edit: can't understand anything in the manual. Can you tell me does it have a back camera? If so how is the camera quality.
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nooktablet said:
Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like this)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
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In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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Yes. It was advertized widely in Korea. I hadn't thought about the YP-GB70D, but you are right to mention that. However, I still want to hold out hope, as this is a brand new device modeled after their flagship phone the S III. So, with that in mind, Samsung may want to release the device here with a fresh start; also where the Galaxy S III is selling well.
If all else fails, you could probably pick one up on eBay in the near future.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like thid)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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:laugh: Nope, sorry. I am not Korean, but I have lived in Korea. I am as white as they come. I like to call myself a linguist.
But, to answer your question, if you take a look at the instruction manual I uploaded, there are lots of pictures of the device and features. However, the short answer to your question is, "Yes. It does have a front and rear camera."
Also, about the iPod Touch 5, I'd advise you to wait for the Galaxy Player, as you'll probably be able to get one on eBay in the near future. If you go with Apple, you look like everybody else. You have the same device as probably 1:3 people around you. Be different, and more importantly, go BIG! You know you want 5.8 inches of screen real estate.:good:
Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
Oh! One more thing for those of you who were wondering, the device DOES have a rear camera. I believe the rear camera is 3 megapixels. (I know. I know. Terrible, right?) As for the front camera (don't quote me on this), I believe it is .3 megapixels, but I'll update this post if/when I get an actual figure. (I know I saw it in the manual.)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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well i believe they will not price it that high unless they're crazy, at least in the US.
i'd get a nexus 7 or kindle fire hd or ipod touch (because it's portable than the 2 tablets). the highest price i'd pay for the 16GB is $250, and i expect it to be $200.
how come they price it $400, you know my TF300T is $400, the ipad 2 is $400. This is not a galaxy s3 or note 2, it doesn't have good resolution, it doesn't have very good processor, why? because they want to cut cost. who would buy it at $400, i know i won't.
in my opinion $200 is still expensive, the fire hd and the nexus 7 are priced at $200 and they have pretty good specs. that's why i'm thinking if apple price the ipod touch 5 $200 it should have something good/special.
In short, i would never buy this device if it's $400 (which i believe the price is not true, samsung is not that crazy)
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
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i also am hoping for the Bluetooth hands-free profile. the page 121 in the manual says that (using google translator):
"Music by connecting a stereo headset that supports Bluetooth function
Or hear or connect external devices, mobile phone data and
Can get.
Bluetooth feature on or off."
does this mean bt hf?
Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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hmm -> http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/pod-touch-hands-on-2012-video/
I actually think it's a pretty sweet looking device.. I think i will get it just to see what this iOS is about (since i've never owned an iOS device before). They say it'll get the iPhone 4s' processor, which is (AFAIK) is very powerful and is (much) more powerful than what Samsung Galaxy players have. No way i'm parting with my Galaxy Players though (In fact am planning to get the new 5.8 as well). Pitty this iPod Touch can't be upgraded to Android.. and Apple devices have crappy batteries (except iPads, iPhone 4S has a 950MAh battery, which is a joke!)
Yup, well tell me what you think.
My dad has an iPad, and here are the biggest things that bug me about iOS: first and foremost, WHY THE HECK ARE ALL THE APP SETTINGS PUT INTO THE SYSTEM SETTINGS!? It just makes no sense! When I want to change the settings of an app, I should find the settings in the app, NOT have to dig around in the system settings! Another thing that is super annoying is the lack of a common back button like android. The unisearch is also junk compared to android's, for example no search suggestions and no customizing searchable items! Another HUGE handicap is no file browser (yes you can jail break, but my dad won't, and frankly you shouldn't have to!). I think this feature is one that truly shows how much more open and PC-like android is! The list goes on, but these are the ones always giving me a headache.
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If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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euphoriaflow said:
If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
By the way, here is the link for that YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpv3ONlYHM
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
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I think that's a fine plan of action, Note 2 would most definitely be better.
If the new Player has a reasonable enough price, I might consider it, however, if it is too expensive, I'll probably just go with a 16 GB Nexus 7, since 8 GB is certainly not enough for me, lol.
Motorola make laptop docks powered by their phones such as the Atrix, is there any such thing for the samsung range, particularly the S3?
check out "clambook", its coming soon.
nice one, thanks!
Ubuntu for Android also seems interesting, although it's not for laptops I don't think and it's not available yet either.
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check out "clambook", its coming soon.
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Wow that looks really interesting!
Thanks for the info
Motorola MADE laptop docks, they are discontinued due to them being pointless and stupid.
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Well, I guess the Clambook solves the age old question of what to get myself for Christmas... Looks really promising! Would love to not have to drag my macbook around with me anymore!
if they made it to use widi (allshare cast) to wirelessly do this I would pick one up in a heartbeat. cable makes it a bit cumbersome.
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Motorola MADE laptop docks, they are discontinued due to them being pointless and stupid.
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They still make them, they recently announced plans to discontinue them
Pointless and stupid to some is amazing to another. Windows tablets were considered pointless and stupid in 1998 but now iPads and Nexus tabs are all the rage and we got muvvaz dying to get a Windows 8 tablet. There's something called taste, and another called opinion, which we are all entitled to, though to feed the trollage, the Motodocks don't sell due to Moto not being a huge brand anymore (not many phones sold = less people wanting a lapdock for their phone), the price was around the price of a full laptop and that they are pretty much aimed at the techies. The number of techies out there compared to normal consumers is pretty low, but much larger when you look at techies overall compared to Motorola phone owning techies, and a lapdock that runs with any top end android or ios device at a lower price has a lot more scope for sales. I would love to pick one up for £80-100, would stretch to £150 if I could have one device work with my S3, 4S and iPad 3 rather than needing to buy separate connectors.
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I would love to pick one up for £80-100, would stretch to £150 if I could have one device work with my S3, 4S and iPad 3 rather than needing to buy separate connectors.
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Yes I can see me getting one of these, hope they are out by Xmas!
I really want one for nexus ⁴ buy stool no sign of them any alternative?
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It looks cool but the atrix actually docked on the laptop. This isn't really lap-friendly. It couldn't be used on a Train with no tables for example. Shame, the hardware itself looks nice.
They should have a dockable area where the touchpad is, so you can use the screen as a touchpad
get a padfone, most elegant solution so far
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get a padfone, most elegant solution so far
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Yeah looks good
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Yeah looks good
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especially the latest infinity one. that's the device I plan to replace my galaxy with
out of my price range unfortunately. Mine have to be nearly "free" on contract
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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I have both devices. They are a good combination. But every app on Nexus 10 looks better.
For some reason I find myself on my dad's iPad 4 rather than my Nexus 10. Apple is def doing something right.
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I have the n7 and the n 10 ipad2 and just sold my galaxy tab 7.7.
Not all apps look better on the N 10. For example the Engadget app does not scale, yet.
Out of all the tablets i have owned the n7 is the best. However I am getting the note 2 on Monday and I suspect it will be my go to device, then the n 10, and finally my laptop.
Another couple of years and they will have finally have a tablet that can be used for work and play, not there yet.
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Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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The point is that the Nexus 10 does web browsing, the main use of a tablet for most, bigger and sharper and has the horse power to push it extremely smoothly.
No one says I have a cell phone, what is the point of a 55 inch TV, my apps look the same on it. Why would anyone say that here?
10 inch is the sweet spot like Steve Jobs said in my opinion. Laptop is too clunky and the Nexus 7 and Note are too small. That is my opinion.
To me, an android phone is the best (love my S3 to death). But for a tablet, iOS is the best. I decided to return my nexus 10 since Im not patient enough. I got frustrated with apps on the nexus 10. Apps do not look good and run well on the nexus for now (this will be fixed, of course). But apps for ipad are also much better. ALso never think more pixels are better. WHat matters is its contrast and color accuracy. More pixels only drain the battery.
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Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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actually apps will look different on the nexus. specificly, they look worse since they haven't been optimized for high resolution screen .. yet
These arguments are pretty pointless. The notion that there must be a one great almighty device that trumps all seems silly to me. They're both great, just buy which one fits your needs. Its a tablet you use to watch YouTube, its not a big deal.
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There is no denying that the iPad 4 is the best all-around tablet out there - build quality, performance, smoothness, tablications, battery life, everything is cool. I'm buying the Nexus 10 however because:
- better bang for the buck, the $100 it's cheaper can be use for the surely coming keyboard dock
- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
- extras: higher res screen, NFC, USB-OTG possibilities (media play without root), front-facing quality speakers, lighter weight
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- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
Of course you would make a thread like this lol. The moderators must be getting tired of closing these things...
Who gives a flying frack what the app "looks" like!! Does it do what it is supposed to do? Does it do it fast? Do movies look better than just about anything else out there? Is the sound great compared to most tablets? Is the resolution higher than ANY tablet out there?
Personally I am about getting **** done with a tablet, you can have your pretty apps, because I already got my **** done, and ran 17 more apps while you are "oooh'ing and ahh'ing" over how pretty your apps are...
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are purely my own, don't expect you to or even care if you agree, move along :good:
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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you don't have to agree. personal opinions are just that. personal opinions. sideloading or not, i'm not quite sure of the difference. apps are apps. we all use them. so whether or not you have to install an app to get something to work the way we want it doesn't really take anything away from the devices we choose. some cars have ugly rims on them when we buy them from the dealer. we buy and put custom wheels on them. your "point" is moot at this point. but an ipad or buy a nexus 10. who cares.
Nexus 10 is so big it doesn't matter how thick it is within reason. Actually, I would've preferred they gave it a bigger battery for longer life unplugged.
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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Yes Nexus10 is awesome, but I'm a little bit desapointed by Android 4.2 regarding "no flash player" I know the reasons but currently I cannot benefit from web TVs I planned to watch with my new tablet (Orange TV, Canal+, Pluzz...).
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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I agree CreepyDroid. I tried to sideload the apk and to use other browsers without success. I would apreciate to read a good step by step link
Thank in advance.
Tomatoes8 said:
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
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i am really disappointed from google now! say what ever any body wants to say against me, i dont care cause reality aint gonna change!
i am a Samsung Boy... everything i own is from samsung (electronics ofcourse)
in my point of view, Google is a Huge company, Bigger than Apple. google can produce tablet oriented apps! YES IT CAN! i dont really dont find not more than like 10 apps that are ESPECIALLY made for my tablets! i owned Nexus 7, sold that cause of lag in browser, Now i own NOTE 10.1!
an Excellent Tablet! but No Apps!
when i was in search of good tab i had to choose between iPad 3 and Note 10.1 and i went for Note 10.1 cause i love Google but i AGAIN got disappointed! not from the tablet, but the SOFTWARE SUPPORT AND APP AVAILABILITY!
i am thinking of getting Nexus 10 but i am keeping my self away from the idea of getting it cause of app support!
mark my words, THERE WILL BE NO APPS FOR NEXUS 10 AT LEAST NOT FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 MONTHS!
Apple is only better in APP support and software support than google! GOOGLE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! WHEN U CAN ACTIVATE MILLIONS OF DEVICES EVERY DAY WHY NOT THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEM! DONT TELL ME ITS DIFFICULT FOR GOOGLE! ITS A BILLIONS OF $$ COMPANY!! AND HECK IT HAS SUPPORT OF MONSTER COMPANIES LIKE SAMSUNG, LG, HTC AND OTHERS.....!!!
google is destroying its image in minds of customers like me, who change their gadgets very frequently!
accept it or not dude! u can not deny the reality! SMARTPHONES IS ANDROID THING NOW, TABLETS ARE APPLE THING NOW... and only for the fact of no app and software support!
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On the INTERNET, Flash is by far the most popular video format... and until HTML5 has agreed on a format that Chrome Firefox IE Safari Opera etc can agree on, flash video is still the choice for many web designers. If you are interested in seeing that content, you can either get flash a capable browser, or not see the video... crap or not.