1-It is easy to handle and carry, far easier than the Galaxy Note 2. Fits in both shirt and pants pockets. Works one handed.
2-Loads web pages quicker than the Galaxy Note 2. Actually loads quicker than the Macbook Pro. Easy to browse and read web sites. Great screen.
3-Small apps is far more fun and easier to use than the split screen Samsung uses on their phones. You can use widgets as well as Sony extensions from the Play store. Easy to access along with recent apps with dedicated soft key.
4-No stylus required. Finger or just about anything works.
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1-It is easy to handle and carry, far easier than the Galaxy Note 2. Fits in both shirt and pants pockets. Works one handed.
2-Loads web pages quicker than the Galaxy Note 2. Actually loads quicker than the Macbook Pro. Easy to browse and read web sites. Great screen.
3-Small apps is far more fun and easier to use than the split screen Samsung uses on their phones. You can use widgets as well as Sony extensions from the Play store. Easy to access along with recent apps with dedicated soft key.
4-No stylus required. Finger or just about anything works.
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As a ZU owner:
1. No it is not FAR easier than the note 2. It doesn't fit in my clothes because pockets are typically bounded by their Length and Width dimensions, not their thickness which renders the thinness of the ZU a moot point. The note 2 is easier to use one handed
2. It loads faster than the galaxy note 2 because the note 2 is one year old in terms of hardware and software. Does it really load faster than the MBP? Cool, good to know. The screen is amazing
3. The small apps and samsungs multiscreen serve completely different functions, that being said I never really needed to use multi-windows and I've never really needed to use small-apps before but the small-apps do sound like they would be more useful.
4. Actually you must have a stylus made out of a certain type of metal otherwise, just about "anything" does not work, it is quite dissapointing actually I haven't found a "stylus" that is very accurate yet, Sony should also have included an actual stylus oriented app (sketch is just a crude ms-paint kind of thing)
Bottom line, I love this phone, it is not without it's flaws, just don't be irrational and let the new-phone-feeling get to your head.
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1-It is easy to handle and carry, far easier than the Galaxy Note 2. Fits in both shirt and pants pockets. Works one handed.
2-Loads web pages quicker than the Galaxy Note 2. Actually loads quicker than the Macbook Pro. Easy to browse and read web sites. Great screen.
3-Small apps is far more fun and easier to use than the split screen Samsung uses on their phones. You can use widgets as well as Sony extensions from the Play store. Easy to access along with recent apps with dedicated soft key.
4-No stylus required. Finger or just about anything works.
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For such a massive tablet like device, your claims are very had to believe.
That thing is freaking huge!!!!!
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For such a massive tablet like device, your claims are very had to believe.
That thing is freaking huge!!!!!
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Actually it is not that big as people thought.
I can fit nicely in my working pants and jeans comfortable without issue.
By the way, Xperia Z Ultra is open, any related Xperia Z Ultra shall head over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2441
I almost disagree with you on all the points except the last one. I agree that Sony shud hv included dedicated Note taking App for Note taking addicts like myself(I Switched from Note 2)
This Device is awesome in all aspects and I love the build quality, it really feels that I hv spent 800$(unlike cheap build of Samsung, that plastic feels)
Want to warn ZU that please do not use any Metal as Stylus as It will scratch your screen (Just got replaced my scratched ZU from Sony Yesterday)
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Sebring5 said:
1-It is easy to handle and carry, far easier than the Galaxy Note 2. Fits in both shirt and pants pockets. Works one handed.
2-Loads web pages quicker than the Galaxy Note 2. Actually loads quicker than the Macbook Pro. Easy to browse and read web sites. Great screen.
3-Small apps is far more fun and easier to use than the split screen Samsung uses on their phones. You can use widgets as well as Sony extensions from the Play store. Easy to access along with recent apps with dedicated soft key.
4-No stylus required. Finger or just about anything works.
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Please could you clarify what is a Sony Extension and how are they different from a standard app?, why are they good for the XZU?, thanks
I Agree Bro
Afridi
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Please could you clarify what is a Sony Extension and how are they different from a standard app?, why are they good for the XZU?, thanks
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On the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, when you press the right hand button you get recently opened applications as well as a list of your favorite small apps or Sony extensions. These are both your widgets and small apps designed for Sony Xperia and Smartwatch. When you open one it takes up a small part of your screen and allows both it and the previously running app to run and be used at the same time. For example, you can run a clock with your browser. For example, you can use the telephone and open a note in the corner of your screen and take a note without leaving the phone UI. For example, you can view G Mail or messaging while in your browser or on the phone. This would be similar to Samsung's split screen only both apps are active at the same time and you can make the small app or widget whatever size you want at whatever location you want. Far more useful.
Question for some of the ZU owners here:
I got the device a few days a go from one of the unlocked phones retails here in the US and i have many touch screen problems with it.
Sometimes it won't register touch properly, for example i would try to scroll through the email list in the gmail app and it will open an email instead (i.e. it will register the scroll gesture and a click).
This happens on all apps (Facebook, google currents etc..).
Anyone else is seeing this or is my device defective?
I ran the software update from Sony but it is still happening.
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Question for some of the ZU owners here:
I got the device a few days a go from one of the unlocked phones retails here in the US and i have many touch screen problems with it.
Sometimes it won't register touch properly, for example i would try to scroll through the email list in the gmail app and it will open an email instead (i.e. it will register the scroll gesture and a click).
This happens on all apps (Facebook, google currents etc..).
Anyone else is seeing this or is my device defective?
I ran the software update from Sony but it is still happening.
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Do a factory reset through Sony pc conpanion. If it doesn't work go take it back to the shop and ask for an exchange or refund.
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Do a factory reset through Sony pc conpanion. If it doesn't work go take it back to the shop and ask for an exchange or refund.
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Tried. Still the same.
I was actually interested in knowing if other owners have the same issue or not. This might be a hardware issue with my unit or a software issue but then other people should be seeing it too.
In .461, I find a bit over sensitive, after update to .471, no more any issue.
I have the same issue. It is better after the update, but still overly sensitive. I also set the touch and hold delay to medium but it's still not perfect.
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Battery is waaay worse than Note2
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Battery is waaay worse than Note2
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I got around 7 hours of constant internet and SOT of 5 hours (playing RO Valkyrie Uprising game mostly). can't really say it's bad after updating to .475
Really like the phone also, just wish the camera was better. I'm not a photographer, and don't want to play with ISO settings, etc.
Hopefully auto can be improved in a firmware update, otherwise I'll be sticking with my HTC One and hoping the HTC One Max is real.
Sebring5 said:
1-It is easy to handle and carry, far easier than the Galaxy Note 2. Fits in both shirt and pants pockets. Works one handed.
2-Loads web pages quicker than the Galaxy Note 2. Actually loads quicker than the Macbook Pro. Easy to browse and read web sites. Great screen.
3-Small apps is far more fun and easier to use than the split screen Samsung uses on their phones. You can use widgets as well as Sony extensions from the Play store. Easy to access along with recent apps with dedicated soft key.
4-No stylus required. Finger or just about anything works.
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After reviewing myself, I also agree that the Xperia Z Ultra is more usable than originally perceived. It's not that big for a phone, and it's not too small for a tablet.
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After reviewing myself, I also agree that the Xperia Z Ultra is more usable than originally perceived. It's not that big for a phone, and it's not too small for a tablet.
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yep rocks. battery had me worried at first .. but now its decent . i still hate the plastic shatter proof screen so I took it off .. its nice now . best phone I have ever owned
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yep rocks. battery had me worried at first .. but now its decent . i still hate the plastic shatter proof screen so I took it off .. its nice now . best phone I have ever owned
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Huh? How did you remove the plastic shatter proof screen?
Freaking huge if you only use small devices. Freaking small if you use to always have a tablet around. As a Nexus 7 user when I first had this phone on my hands it felt so tiny and light compare to it. Now it feel normal and it fit in every shorts, pants and jeans pockets I have. Even on skinny jeans (do not own any ultra skinny jeans but guess it doesn't fit in).
After please people, compare what can be compared. This phone is in no way like a Note 2 or 3, size is really too different. Only phone that can be compared is the Mega (mid-end device with low price) and some other phablets I saw while traveling in Korean but mostly use by people who want to watch TV while moving by bus/metro.
Notes are big phones but not tablets, the Z Ultra is a phablet, huge for a phone but small for a tablet. Does anybody talk about operating a tablet 1 handed? Does anybody compare a 7/8" tab to a 10.1" and say that a 7/8" is better because it is lightweight and easier to carry everywhere? Or 10.1 better because bigger screen?
This phone is definitely oriented for people who want a tablet and a phone but don't want to have 2 devices when moving outside. And like the cream on the top of a cake they made it with an amazing CPU/GPU and features.
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Hey everyone, I'm loving the Nexus 10 right now but I'm not sure it fits my needs perfectly. Did anyone come from the Note 10.1? What were your impressions of it compared to the Nexus? I'm really torn right now. I'm a student, so I would definitely use the pen.
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Hey everyone, I'm loving the Nexus 10 right now but I'm not sure it fits my needs perfectly. Did anyone come from the Note 10.1? What were your impressions of it compared to the Nexus? I'm really torn right now. I'm a student, so I would definitely use the pen.
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I gave up my Note 10.1 for a Nexus 10 and overall i'm glad I did. I love the screen on the Nexus 10, perfect for watching movies on. With the Note the screen was always a bit dim when watching movies.
I do miss TouchWiz because I found the launcher much more smoother than Google Stock however I'm using Apex on the Nexus 10 and it's so impressive. All in all very pleased I made the switch. :good:
Have you tried using a capacitive stylus on the Nexus? I ordered one from amazon, still waiting for my actual nexus to arrive but I'm looking forward to using it -- I'm also a student and will be taking tons of notes on it. I've seen plenty of my fellow students using iPad with a capacitive stylus to take notes on and they all love it -- I ordered a much thinner tipped stylus and I'm hoping that will be a good fit for writing.
Anyways, I don't have experience with the note but if you miss the pen then perhaps a thin tipped stylus for the N10 will be good?
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Hey everyone, I'm loving the Nexus 10 right now but I'm not sure it fits my needs perfectly. Did anyone come from the Note 10.1? What were your impressions of it compared to the Nexus? I'm really torn right now. I'm a student, so I would definitely use the pen.
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I previously had the Note 10.1 and find the Nexus 10 a far nicer piece of kit. Speedwise, I couldn't tell the difference but the build quality of the Note wasn't great with the chassis creaking on occasion! Also, I didn't think that the 10.1 screen was terribly good even by 1280x800 standards.
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I previously had the Note 10.1 and find the Nexus 10 a far nicer piece of kit. Speedwise, I couldn't tell the difference but the build quality of the Note wasn't great with the chassis creaking on occasion! Also, I didn't think that the 10.1 screen was terribly good even by 1280x800 standards.
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Really? After seeing alot of 800p tablets on display in a shop, I thought the Note 10.1 screen looked noticeably better than all of them. Especially the colour saturation and black level.
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Really? After seeing alot of 800p tablets on display in a shop, I thought the Note 10.1 screen looked noticeably better than all of them. Especially the colour saturation and black level.
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I thought so. I had a Transfomer Prime at the time as well and thought the display in that was far nicer. This being said, I'm no expert and my opinion is certainly subjective! However, the build quality of the Note 10 was definitely inferior - never happy when a tablet bends slightly and creaks whilst doing so!
I came from the Note 10.1 and enjoyed it a lot. The spen does add to a very solid tablet. Drawing with it was pretty amazing, very precise. It was smooth and performed very well for me. Only reason I left was due to the standard screen and slow charge (yes I know its the same for N10 but its only because they haven't released the Pogo Pin charger yet). I wanted an HD screen. When N10 came out and read of the specs similar to Note 10.1 but newer /faster Exynos chip and the best [email protected] I was sold.
**This topic has also already been discussed to death. Please lets not start this over again. If you searched you would easily find the answers your looking for by the way.
This is just two of several threads about these two devices.
Nexus 10 or Note 10.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962714
Note 10.1 vs N10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952512
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TheEmpyre said:
Have you tried using a capacitive stylus on the Nexus? I ordered one from amazon, still waiting for my actual nexus to arrive but I'm looking forward to using it -- I'm also a student and will be taking tons of notes on it. I've seen plenty of my fellow students using iPad with a capacitive stylus to take notes on and they all love it -- I ordered a much thinner tipped stylus and I'm hoping that will be a good fit for writing.
Anyways, I don't have experience with the note but if you miss the pen then perhaps a thin tipped stylus for the N10 will be good?
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Writing on the nexus 10 with a capacitive stylus will be extremely uncomfortable since you will have to hold your hand/arm above the glass constantly. The note 10.1 has a digitizer therefore you can rest your hand on the glass and it ignores the skin touch and only picks up the pen touch.
Imagine trying to write on a piece of paper with your hand and arm hovering above the paper the whole time = impossible
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Writing on the nexus 10 with a capacitive stylus will be extremely uncomfortable since you will have to hold your hand/arm above the glass constantly. The note 10.1 has a digitizer therefore you can rest your hand on the glass and it ignores the skin touch and only picks up the pen touch.
Imagine trying to write on a piece of paper with your hand and arm hovering above the paper the whole time = impossible
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Can u somehow implement plam rejection on the nexus
devilcaeser2010 said:
Can u somehow implement plam rejection on the nexus
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I think you can if the developer codes it into their apps. But it'd have to be pretty genius to get it working properly.
GETCASHMONEY said:
Hey everyone, I'm loving the Nexus 10 right now but I'm not sure it fits my needs perfectly. Did anyone come from the Note 10.1? What were your impressions of it compared to the Nexus? I'm really torn right now. I'm a student, so I would definitely use the pen.
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The Note 10.1 is the most complete tablet experience on the market right now bar none. Its only downside is the 720P display. It's as fast and fluid (on JB) as the N10 and gets better battery life because of the lower res display. As a student multiview, S-Pen/S-Note, and some of the other features could make a huge difference in your productivity. The N10 is a better value and a better consumption device but as a productivity and creation device nothing compares to the Note. And there's no combination of third party apps or dev tweaks that will change that.
Here's a list of features on the Note not on the N10. You can decide how meaningful any of them are based on what you use your tablet for. I'm a huge productivity user and would only give up the Note to get another Note with a FHD display.
- Multiview (enhanced in JB)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps (enhanced in JB)
- Enhanced audio and video codec support
- IR port
- Browser h/w acceleration
- S-Voice (added in JB)
- Air View (added in JB)
- Group Cast (added in JB)
Here's a list of some more new features in JB. Some are really cool and can't be replicated on any other tablet (even via third party apps).
Video Air View – Preview videos without opening them. View future/past scenes in a playing video via the timeline without stopping it.
Photo Air View – Pictures contained in folders will display in thumbnails when you hover over the folder. They advance nine at a time.
E-Mail Air View – Hover the pen over a heading or contents of an e-mail summary (including via the widget) to see an exploded view of the contents without opening it.
S-Planner Air View – Hover the pen over an event or task to see an exploded view without opening it.
Pop Up Note – Tap the screen twice with the S-Pen button depressed and a pop up note will be displayed. Even on the lock screen when the device is locked. On the N8000, if you’re in a call and remove the S-Pen from its holder, a pop up note automatically opens.
Easy Clip – Capture anything on the display (lasso) anywhere and save it to the clipboard or send it an application (including S-Note).
Draw/Write on an e-mail – As it says.
Draw/Write in S-Planner – As it says (Month View only)
Color Picker – In S-Note, set the ink color to a color selected from a picture.
Pen Switch – Select multiple pen types (color, texture, weight) and toggle through them without opening the menu by pressing the button on the S-Pen once.
Sketch Affect – Change any picture to an outline, color sketch, pencil sketch and more from within S-Note.
Share S-Notes – Convert S-Notes to plain text, PDFs, or pictures and share them via Facebook etc. in one step.
Photo Note – Write personal notes on the back of photos
Gallery Organizer – Create folders and drag and drop pictures between them.
Quick Gestures - Open apps and perform functions by writing on the display.
And the display on the Note is better than the N10's at brightness and contrast. So living with it isn't as painful as some make it seem.
My Nexus 10 comes next week finally! :victory:
So yh I'll definitely be doing some comparison videos of Nexus 10 vs Note 10.1 as I've seen quite a few threads comparing the two.
So I ended up selling my nexus 10 and getting the note. So far I am really happy with My choice, this Seems like the perfect tabletfor my needs. I will say, I Miss the screen a little.
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I think you can if the developer codes it into their apps. But it'd have to be pretty genius to get it working properly.
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I think not.
On the Note-series Samsung are using Wacom technology - both on the screen and on the pen.
Your normal touchscreen is capacitive. And so are the Notes.
BUT they also add a inductive screen layer - that's what triggering the pen.
By charging a magnetic field above the screen - which charges the pen and makes it function, you can decide if you want both capacitive and inductive touch - or just one input signal.
I have the Note 2 and it's really good and some differences between the Note pen and a standard stylus is that the Note pen is pressure-sensitive - up to 1024 zones of pressure. It also registers HOW you're holding the pen, laying it down, using it straight down, and more.
Not forgetting Airview - you can hover the pen over objects and it will function as you would do with your mouse on your computer - popup menus are working on everyday websites, you can preview movie scenes in the timeline, and so on.
A normal stylus is just a replacement for your finger.
being someone who has no interest in the spen, my major yearning for the note 10.1 is the multiview capability. I am a big youtube watcher and i constantly find my self wanting to use gtalk or the web browser while watching a video on my current tablet. With the huge resolution of the nexus 10, it seems the like the PERFECT tablet for that feature. That being said, has anyone worked on trying to get the multiview capability ported to other devices? I mean I am sure its 100% software implementation, so it seems possible to add it to a custom ROM. Just wondering if there has been any work or even if anyone has looked into this?
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being someone who has no interest in the spen, my major yearning for the note 10.1 is the multiview capability. I am a big youtube watcher and i constantly find my self wanting to use gtalk or the web browser while watching a video on my current tablet. With the huge resolution of the nexus 10, it seems the like the PERFECT tablet for that feature. That being said, has anyone worked on trying to get the multiview capability ported to other devices? I mean I am sure its 100% software implementation, so it seems possible to add it to a custom ROM. Just wondering if there has been any work or even if anyone has looked into this?
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mike240se said:
being someone who has no interest in the spen, my major yearning for the note 10.1 is the multiview capability. I am a big youtube watcher and i constantly find my self wanting to use gtalk or the web browser while watching a video on my current tablet. With the huge resolution of the nexus 10, it seems the like the PERFECT tablet for that feature. That being said, has anyone worked on trying to get the multiview capability ported to other devices? I mean I am sure its 100% software implementation, so it seems possible to add it to a custom ROM. Just wondering if there has been any work or even if anyone has looked into this?
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This. A thousand times this. I have zero issues with my N10, but I'm mildly envious of the Note 10.1 for multiview. I'm guessing the next Note with a higher res screen will be the "best of both worlds", but alas, I'm not willing to wait. Hoping Google pilfers this feature and builds it into Key Lime Pie.
You would be surprised how much you use the spen. I am converted.
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You would be surprised how much you use the spen. I am converted.
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Once you start using it you're pretty much hooked. I replaced a Teg3 One X I was happy with for a Note II so I could get S-Pen on my phone and share S-Note's between my devices. The Note 10.1 got ****ty reviews because very few reviewers "got it" or spent any time trying to. Of all the devices I've owned the two Notes are the most complicated to figure out if you intend to fully use all their features. I was still finding things weeks after I got the 10.1. And if those things don't matter people should by the N10 because it's cheaper, easier, and a better pure consumption device.
The Note 10.1 is by far the better tablet if you're looking to use a stylus at all. I've only had the TF101 and the GN10.1, but the difference between the a capacitive stylus (like the adonit jot) and the spen is ridiculously large. You'll kick yourself for thinking that the capacitive stylii you see on the market are anywhere near as useful as the wacom stylii (which of course, require a wacom interface built within the tablet).
On the other hand, if you care only about browsing videos, pictures, and surfing the web, there's no point in paying more for a stylus you won't use.
Bottom line is that you shouldn't listen to the idiot reviewers who didn't use the Note 10.1 as its intended audience. They were all just looking for iPad-esque tablets and not looking at what the Note 10.1 really is.
Sometimes when I hold my tablet in a certain spot (usually right side) and let go... the backing makes some sort of clicking sound. The device doesn't feel flimsy to me, as other have complain... but that noise worries me.
Have others experience this clicking sound when holding their tablet?
Mine did this — it felt like the glue holding the backing in place was coming unstuck. I also found that if I pressed on the back, the pressure point showed on the screen and even engaged the touch sensor.
This along with other annoyances (screen shadow along bottom edge, a dead pixel, diagonal lines on screen and breaking of Firefox Sync by Sony Android OS) made me return it. I expect a $600 to be well-built and last at least 2 years and this glue unsticking spoke of shoddy design and a short product life.
My original Xoom cost the same and is still fully functional and unblemished. I was hoping the Xperia would be a worthy replacement, but it was a disappointment.
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Mine did this — it felt like the glue holding the backing in place was coming unstuck.
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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Mine makes the same clicking sound. And I also have the "loose headphone flap". I'll ask for an exchange.
I have the same problem with mine. It feels like the glue is not holding well. Hopefully it can be easily fixed by SONY if it start to cause problems.
One more thing. When you press the loose place it makes screen go white, which worries me a little. No problem if you using case but still something like that shouldn't happen in high end device. Maybe it is thinnest tablet but it is not the strongest
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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I think you got a defective one. If you have the patience to do the exchange-fix dance with Sony or whatever retailer you bought it from and like everything else about the tablet then you should.
If the just-announced Tegra 4 Toshiba Write hadn't caught my eye, I would probably had tried to exchange it to see if I could get a properly glued one, but that Toshiba is the same price, had a newer processor and is designed for my intended use-case (notetaking), so Sony's lose is Toshiba's gain at least in my case.
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I think you got a defective one. If you have the patience to do the exchange-fix dance with Sony or whatever retailer you bought it from and like everything else about the tablet then you should.
If the just-announced Tegra 4 Toshiba Write hadn't caught my eye, I would probably had tried to exchange it to see if I could get a properly glued one, but that Toshiba is the same price, had a newer processor and is designed for my intended use-case (notetaking), so Sony's lose is Toshiba's gain at least in my case.
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I got it from newegg, and I suspect they will be good about doing an exchange. That being said, I don't want to do an exchange if this problem is very common. So perhaps I should ask... has anyone NOT experience this issue?
The main reason why I got this instead of the nexus 10, was because of its waterproof nature. I want a tablet I can go to the gym with... and not having to worry about sweat/water was a huge selling point for me.
There's really no way of knowing how widespread the issue is without a proper survey of a representative sample of Xperia Tablet Z owners. People on forums tend to go there with problems they have so forums are full of people with problems Not a great sample.
Ultimately, all that you can realistically do is keep exchanging until you get one you like, or you or Newegg lose patience.
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Mine can flex slightly (which triggers recognition on the screen), but I have no clicking sounds or similar things - mine feels very solid and feels top-notch otherwise, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's quality control for Japanese units was tighter.
Same thing here SGP321 FROM DUBAI, seems like the glue between the back cover and whatever inside got unstuck...
My xperia tablet Z makes the clicking sound on both the bottom left and right, around the speaker area.
To me it sounds like the paper (or plastic) that is generally found in a (earplug) speaker.
Seeing that the slim design i think it is more then likely that we are pressing on the speaker of the tablet, and not so much the glue coming apart.
If it were the glue then it would most likely be at random places across the tablet. Seeing that we are all reporting the noise in the same general area, which also happens to be the place where the internal speakers are located, i feel that it is the speaker making the clicking (crackling) noise.
Hi look on youtube and search, Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown) you can see the back cover is stuck on with double sided tape.
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Hi look on youtube and search, Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown) you can see the back cover is stuck on with double sided tape.
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Here is a link to the video you mentioned.
Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown)
Cat McGowan said:
Here is a link to the video you mentioned.
Looks easy enough to pop off the back and add some additional tape or silicone adhesive, if you're so inclined.
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I have the same issue. I decided to give it a week or so before returning it to see how much I use it and if there are any other problems. I am nit-picky and the screen colours (greys and whites mainly) are just strange. Greys are red-ish while whites and yellowy, so a screen adjuster app doesn't help at all. Also I get a shadow right around my screen, it's really distracting on things like Falcon Pro in white. The sticky back is still happening and I also found out that I don't really like Android tablets. That, or they're just not ready for me yet. The 16:10 aspect ratio has no advantage to me, just disadvantages, and apps that I want to use just aren't good enough or they're non-existent.
So I'm returning it and waiting for the iPad mini 2. Sorry, but the Nexus 7 felt like a blown up experience of my phone rather than a shrunken down experience of a tablet.
Mister, here are people who use and like Android because of the openness and customizability.
If that isn't important to you, then you are anyway wrong here, and I wish you much fun with your Apple stuff.
iisshaun said:
I have the same issue. I decided to give it a week or so before returning it to see how much I use it and if there are any other problems. I am nit-picky and the screen colours (greys and whites mainly) are just strange. Greys are red-ish while whites and yellowy, so a screen adjuster app doesn't help at all. Also I get a shadow right around my screen, it's really distracting on things like Falcon Pro in white.
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I agree with my colors being a little warm, but it's not extreme or bad (my desktop monitor is also set moderately warm). Probably unit variance. What I do have is the 'shadow' on the bottom border, but I'm not unaccustomed to backlight bleed or such. It doesn't bother me much either since usually the black Android system bar is there to begin with.
Sounds like Sony's quality control isn't very tight on international units...
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I agree with my colors being a little warm, but it's not extreme or bad (my desktop monitor is also set moderately warm). Probably unit variance. What I do have is the 'shadow' on the bottom border, but I'm not unaccustomed to backlight bleed or such. It doesn't bother me much either since usually the black Android system bar is there to begin with.
Sounds like Sony's quality control isn't very tight on international units...
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My monitors are every so slightly yellowy, but I was able to use that with a slight colour value change. It seems mine just has odd variables on different tones... quite a bit like my old Galaxy Nexus was like (Yellow whites, green greys and purple dark greys). That's actually why I really dislike AMOLED, so it's a bummer that this IPS panel isn't as accurate as I'd like.
And yeah, really doesn't like they're super tight on the international side. I didn't really want to bother with what could have been back and forth replacements.
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Mister, here are people who use and like Android because of the openness and customizability.
If that isn't important to you, then you are anyway wrong here, and I wish you much fun with your Apple stuff.
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Well look at that, I do actually use and like Android (it's the only mobile OS I use right now). It's just the tabs that aren't up to snuff for me. Openness and customisability is only a good thing if it actually helps make something more useful for me. I find those aspects very useful on my phone. I need to be quick and efficient and I can do that on an Android, but not really on an iPhone. A tablet serves a different purpose for me. It's a leisure/convenience device, I don't need any customisation for it to allow me to do anything faster. Also, my phone has a ton of apps and absolutely all of the ones I want, this Xperia tab doesn't, and definitely not all the apps I consider essential.
Sorry that I have different needs and wants than you, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not wrong in being here because 1) I own the tablet that's in question here and 2) I use Android as my only mobile OS right now and I'll still be using it on my phone for a long time. I wasn't trying to start some petty flame war here, I was just explaining my issues with this tablet and elaborating on why I'm returning it. So let's stay on topic here, huh?
If you're looking for a leisure device, wouldn't 16:10 be more ideal for movies? But I agree on the lack of proper tablet optimized apps. What exactly do you want to do on your tablet though?
If it's web browsing, I feel Android will always deliver a superior experience (I have long tired of constantly reloading tabs on the iPad 3). If it's gaming... well, no argument, iOS usually gets more games.
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If you're looking for a leisure device, wouldn't 16:10 be more ideal for movies? But I agree on the lack of proper tablet optimized apps. What exactly do you want to do on your tablet though?
If it's web browsing, I feel Android will always deliver a superior experience (I have long tired of constantly reloading tabs on the iPad 3). If it's gaming... well, no argument, iOS usually gets more games.
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Well I don't really watch much video away from my PC anyway, and I hardly ever watch any movies either. You've hit the nail on the head though, it's what I plan to do on it that makes the difference. I do a lot of social media stuff, reading, some browsing, games and a bit of video. Reading is far better on a 4:3 screen in portrait. I like 16:9 in portrait on my PC for reading, but trust me it's very different on a tablet. Also, I can't even get a half-decent way of using Facebook on the XTZ either. The official app is awful and Friendster which is supposed to be great is honestly rubbish.
Really it's just something to waste time on, read stuff on and be a convenient portable web browser. A 10" tablet isn't very convenient tbh and the Nexus 7 isn't either when it's so similar to my phone that's already in my pocket. An 8" 4:3 screen is a lot different from a 4.7" or 7" 16:10 screen. It's big enough to be something I want to use over my phone in some situations and small enough that it can travel most places quite easily.
It's just personal preference, it's been said a million times, but I think you already know that. Back on topic though.
I searched the forums and no one has answered this question! I'm coming from a Samsung Note (1 and 8) and I love the fact I can write on the device. I've got a ton of notes I've taken over time it has replaced most of my notepads. I'm hoping this device is as intuitive as the Note series. Can anyone comment that does indeed do a lot of writing on the Ultra Z?
Thanks!
No one writes on this device?
Faverid said:
No one writes on this device?
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nope...
With the new firmware (2.257) you can use pen and pencil, or any metalic object (previous firmwares were touch and go).
But you'll have to put a screen protector on it, or you're gonna wreck your device's screen. What ever metalic object you use, will leave small scratches on it
Like Ham says, get a screen protector and you're good to go
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LordManhattan said:
Like Ham says, get a screen protector and you're good to go
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Maybe I didn't phrase the question properly. I don't actually own the Xperia Z Ultra. That being said I have and had owned a couple of Samsung Note devices. I used the pen for note taking and sketching extensively. I guess the Xperia Z Ultra is not the device I had imagined. I liked the fact that I was not tied down to a stylus. I could use a pencil. So basically I want to replace my Samsung Note but still want the note/sketching function.
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Maybe I didn't phrase the question properly. I don't actually own the Xperia Z Ultra. That being said I have and had owned a couple of Samsung Note devices. I used the pen for note taking and sketching extensively. I guess the Xperia Z Ultra is not the device I had imagined. I liked the fact that I was not tied down to a stylus. I could use a pencil. So basically I want to replace my Samsung Note but still want the note/sketching function.
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I have used a stainless steel knitting needle (round tip) and has done very well at writing. Like you I was a Galaxy Note user, and often would use the S-pen for accurate drawing etc. But the fact that there is no place to store a stylus type object really stops me from using one. perhaps a cover that has one build in... although I don't use cases.
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Maybe I didn't phrase the question properly. I don't actually own the Xperia Z Ultra. That being said I have and had owned a couple of Samsung Note devices. I used the pen for note taking and sketching extensively. I guess the Xperia Z Ultra is not the device I had imagined. I liked the fact that I was not tied down to a stylus. I could use a pencil. So basically I want to replace my Samsung Note but still want the note/sketching function.
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You can use pens and pencils, but the only thing you should be aware of is that there's a factory mounted shatter proof screen protector on the front and back, and being plastic, it'll scratch when you use pencils on it. You can either remove the protector and draw directly on the glass (and eliminate the danger of scratching it), or you can buy another screen protector and set it on top of the factory one. That one will also scratch in the long run (like any screen protector), but you can easily swap it out. The factory protector is a ***** to remove (or so i've read).
Writing on ZU is nothing compare to Note series, as pencil is not active pen, you do not have wrist protection on any Note app. The Note taking app from Sony is also very poor. The only note app that I found useful is AntipaperNote : have multi page, zoom function, wrist protection (but not work on ZU), cloud server etc.. but the support from developer is awful (they claim that I can retrieve activation if I change to other devide, but actually I can not, and end up buying it AGAIN >.<
Drawing on ZU is better, but I still miss the wrist protection very much
Oh believe me when I say this. If you're coming from any of the Note devices, you'll curse yourself for buying the Ultra.
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Just, within the hour, received my Ultra. I have not yet even turned it on! I have it charging. I use at present the SGNote 3 and the difference in quality is immediate. I owned the original Xperia Z and the quality of that was simply superb, why I bought the Note 3 I have no idea however.
So pleased to again just hold a device that feels so well made and worth its value in terms of cost also being a flagship of that group. When I hold the Note 3 now...........The Note 3 is a superb phablet but simply lacks that feel of being a flag ship device. I am so pleased to hold the Ultra and experience that feeling of class. Of purchasing something worthy of my cash and its title.
I will post again latter when I have charged the Ultra and turned it on. I am praying I have made the right choice in changing over and the Sony will perform well without the software bugs I have with my Note 3?
Kind regards to one and all.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Just, within the hour, received my Ultra. I have not yet even turned it on! I have it charging. I use at present the SGNote 3 and the difference in quality is immediate. I owned the original Xperia Z and the quality of that was simply superb, why I bought the Note 3 I have no idea however.
So pleased to again just hold a device that feels so well made and worth its value in terms of cost also being a flagship of that group. When I hold the Note 3 now...........The Note 3 is a superb phablet but simply lacks that feel of being a flag ship device. I am so pleased to hold the Ultra and experience that feeling of class. Of purchasing something worthy of my cash and its title.
I will post again latter when I have charged the Ultra and turned it on. I am praying I have made the right choice in changing over and the Sony will perform well without the software bugs I have with my Note 3?
Kind regards to one and all.
Ryland
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I came from a note 2 and never going back to samsung. It does everything that samsung does but better and the quality of the Zu is just amazing. I feel my money was well spent. Instead of buying a big piece of plastic.
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cameljockey1 said:
I came from a note 2 and never going back to samsung. It does everything that samsung does but better and the quality of the Zu is just amazing. I feel my money was well spent. Instead of buying a big piece of plastic.
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I can fully understand your sentiments.
My major gripe with Samsung is the materials used in the construction. The Note 3 is one of the most expensive phones on the market. In terms of Android I think it may well be THE most expensive? If other brands like HTC, Apple and Sony can produce top spec phones AND be constructed from quality materials, why cant Samsung. My Note 3 has plastic leather back with plastic pretend stitching along with plastic chrome sides etc? I am amazed Samsung didn't use cling film for the screen! Its a missed opportunity as the Note 3 when bug free works very well indeed.
Presentation has an awful lot to do with how we feel about what we own. For top price models I think it only reasonable to expect top quality materials and finish. Still, Samsung's loss and Sony's gain.
It is also very reassuring to own a device that is NOT region locked and to that end I am able to use it all over the globe unlike the Note 3 that I can only use within Europe! Don't set me off on that one.
Just waiting for them to charge then I can play..............I just have to start to act my age! Scrub that what an awful concept...yuk..
Ryland
Ex Note 2 user here too. I really was never bother by the plastic to be honest although holding the naked Ultra just feels amazing! Note 4 would have to be more than amazing for me to go back. Besides, knowing samsung they will add .18" again to its size to make it just short of 5.9 so it will take a few more generations to get to the Ultra size lol
shaolin95 said:
Ex Note 2 user here too. I really was never bother by the plastic to be honest although holding the naked Ultra just feels amazing! Note 4 would have to be more than amazing for me to go back. Besides, knowing samsung they will add .18" again to its size to make it just short of 5.9 so it will take a few more generations to get to the Ultra size lol
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I bought the Note 1 the day of release only to sell it some months later because I could not live with its pocket unfriendly size. I recall writing in my Amazon review that a phone that size will never sell in any numbers.....Talk about dropping a brick! The Note series has sold in the millions.
The quality of the Note 1 was far far better than my Note 3. I didn't purchase the Note 2 but understand the general build of the Note 2 was also superior to the Note 3? Enough of the past and the plastics.
I am very pleased with the quality of the screen and the speed of this appears to me just a smooth and fast as my note 3. I think the 3GB of RAM on the Note is needed to run the UI. The Sony is more vanilla in UI and I prefer that.
The colour scheme on the Sony is also beautiful. I prefer the Sony screen to the Samsung though this is choice, both screens are simply superb.
No sooner I turned the Sony on that it updated to 4.3 OS and I then spent some time downloading my apps etc.
This IS one beast of a phablet. I have zero idea how I am going to live with the size but I am going to make ever effort! The SBH52 will help so I don't have to keep taking the Ultra out of pockets. I had to laugh this afternoon as I cant find a single pair of trousers that this beastie will fit into.
I like the SBH52 even though it came without a charger and no instructions at all. Soon found what I wanted on the Sony site.
Early days to write much more. One tiny thing I have noticed is that Sony have made the icons smaller on the screen? I was surprised at that. I would have preferred larger icons.
I hope it proves reliable. I have it housed in a very nice real leather flip case holder. Holder has one small snag in that no space is cut out for the charging mini USB port so I have to remove the Ultra from the case in order to charge it or down load things to my PC. I will see if I can cut out a small space myself tomorrow.
So..........So far all good. Wonderful quality of materials, very different from the Samsung experience. Both good phablets in their own way.
Will be nice to be able to use my phone again in the rain etc.
Regards,
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
I hope it proves reliable. I have it housed in a very nice real leather flip case holder. Holder has one small snag in that no space is cut out for the charging mini USB port so I have to remove the Ultra from the case in order to charge it or down load things to my PC. I will see if I can cut out a small space myself tomorrow.
So..........So far all good. Wonderful quality of materials, very different from the Samsung experience. Both good phablets in their own way.
Will be nice to be able to use my phone again in the rain etc.
Regards,
Ryland
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I recommend leaving your case as is.
=Cut out a space for the mag-dock. It charges slightly faster and it wont wear the O-rings out from opening and closing them a couple times perday.. that way it will continue to protect agains dust and water.
hamdogg said:
I recommend leaving your case as is.
=Cut out a space for the mag-dock. It charges slightly faster and it wont wear the O-rings out from opening and closing them a couple times perday.. that way it will continue to protect agains dust and water.
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Thank you for the kind and informative reply. There are oddly enough already cut outs for the dock. I have not purchased a dock though as I have read here that the phone does not fit a dock while still in its case only without a case? This would mean every time I need to charge the Ultra I would need to remove it from its cover.
Second point I need to connect my Ultra to my PC to update my documents etc. Is there another way, wifi for eg, of doing this?
I notice that inside the covers of my past Xperia Z that inside the tiny flaps was a white membrane. This was there to show if water had passed the flap and void the warranty? There is no such white membrane inside the flaps on the Ultra. is this correct?
Thanks for your help and support, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Thank you for the kind and informative reply. There are oddly enough already cut outs for the dock. I have not purchased a dock though as I have read here that the phone does not fit a dock while still in its case only without a case? This would mean every time I need to charge the Ultra I would need to remove it from its cover.
Second point I need to connect my Ultra to my PC to update my documents etc. Is there another way, wifi for eg, of doing this?
I notice that inside the covers of my past Xperia Z that inside the tiny flaps was a white membrane. This was there to show if water had passed the flap and void the warranty? There is no such white membrane inside the flaps on the Ultra. is this correct?
Thanks for your help and support, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Ryland
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You can get a cable that connects through the mag -dock. Don't need the actual dock.
You can use wifi direct to connect, but that will depend on your computer's hardware. Loads of apps and software to do this through IP address if you need. The only reason I use my Usb is to update firmware using an Ftp and flash tool.
Ryland Johnson said:
Thank you for the kind and informative reply. There are oddly enough already cut outs for the dock. I have not purchased a dock though as I have read here that the phone does not fit a dock while still in its case only without a case? This would mean every time I need to charge the Ultra I would need to remove it from its cover.
Second point I need to connect my Ultra to my PC to update my documents etc. Is there another way, wifi for eg, of doing this?
I notice that inside the covers of my past Xperia Z that inside the tiny flaps was a white membrane. This was there to show if water had passed the flap and void the warranty? There is no such white membrane inside the flaps on the Ultra. is this correct?
Thanks for your help and support, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Ryland
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I highly recommend a dock. You will be so sick of opening the USB port every time you're going to charge it, and you'll also wear the rubber seals out (i guess). It's also nice to dock it on the nightstand at night and watch tv shows, like it's a tiny Sony TV.
You can transfer files wirelessly by using an app. AirDroid is very good, but that's more of a full fledged manager that you can transfer big files, delete files, send SMS' and even navigate through the filesystem with. I installed Pushbullet last week and it's an amazing little app. It's so easy to send links, photos, files etc. to and from a computer or even another device. I highly recommend it.
Welcome to the Z Ultra forms, @Ryland Johnson !
I remember you from the Z forum (was contemplating buying the Z)..
The Z Ultra is indeed big, but just use it for a month or so, every other phone will seem tiny then
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warfareonly said:
Welcome to the Z Ultra forms, @Ryland Johnson !
I remember you from the Z forum (was contemplating buying the Z)..
The Z Ultra is indeed big, but just use it for a month or so, every other phone will seem tiny then
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Agreed...
Especially compare it with ip4/4s...
ZU makes them looks like a lil boys phone...
hamdogg said:
You can get a cable that connects through the mag -dock. Don't need the actual dock.
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Thank you all for the kind information.
Hamdogg, may I ask you a little more about this cable you mention? Any links or other information would again be appreciated.
many thanks,
Ryland
ronald_loulan said:
Agreed...
Especially compare it with ip4/4s...
ZU makes them looks like a lil boys phone...
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I was considering the Apple iPhone 5S. I know I know, going over to the 'dark side' The points that prevented me where price, its double the cost of the Ultra, not able to use any sort of expandable memory, not water resistant plus possibly the OS and UI? I wanted to try the newer Apple to see if I liked it any more than I did my first Apple. I have to write that the Apple is a quality product with quality back up. The packaging alone always pleases me when I purchase something Apple. I am just not an Apple OS fan.
Sony are getting there again. I think, I don't know, that some large companies like Sony sat on their laurels for too long and just depended on customer loyalty. Not possible to do that for many years. Pleased to see that Sony are moving in the right direction BUT still have a tad way to go.
A classic example of this is the SBH52. I purchased this with the Ultra. No instructions nor wall charger in the box? Even the packaging is rather cheap and cheerful. Apple just don't do that. Even the boxes Apple products come in is quality cardboard !! This is not a joke, all aspects of marketing need to be spot on to improve or even hold onto ones market place.
Remember HTC? Hardly see a single sale in this country today yet only 5 years ago it was nearly all HTC.
Apple have made a science out of how they sell and their market research is second to non plus their customer satisfaction and relations are superb. Of course there will always be the exception to any rule.
I like what Sony are doing. As I wrote above I think in some areas they have a way to go, they appear to be a getting there though. IF Sony can maintain this trend I think Sony will again start to show profits and the devices they produce will again reach the heights they did in the past.
Now Pioneer have ceased making TV's Sony and Panasonic make some top quality sets. Samsung and LG outsell them all BUT for how long?
Samsung is starting to slip with things like region lock on their phones. I for one will not purchase another Samsung until they drop this absurd behaviour.
I had to factory reset my Ultra last night after spending 12 hours setting it up just as I wanted it. The screen froze and no matter what I did it would not unfreeze. After turning the device on and off several times I was able to get into the settings and reset to factory settings. For around 30 minutes I thought it was going to have to be returned! The programme that caused the problem was 'talk back'.
One point that has concerned me is after a complete factory reset I noticed today that the files I had downloaded from my PC into the memory of the Ultra where STILL THERE! This is bad news as had I returned the Ultra those files would have been open to access. I was under the illusion that a factory reset would reset the phone back to a virgin state. This is not at all the case?
Very early days though and some teething problems can some times occur.
Ryland
warfareonly said:
Welcome to the Z Ultra forms, @Ryland Johnson !
I remember you from the Z forum (was contemplating buying the Z)..
The Z Ultra is indeed big, but just use it for a month or so, every other phone will seem tiny then
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Hi. What an experience that was! No matter how hard I tried to explain the difference between water proof and water resistant some fellow posters just could not accept that their poor Xperia Z's where unsuitable for deep sea diving. The way Sony market the Xperia Z was, in my opinion, very poor. In the manual Sony made it clear with large diagrams that the Z could not be used in sea water nor swimming pool water YET their own advert had the Z being used in a bloomin swimming pool!
I gave up on that subject and just laughed at some of the things people did with their poor phones. Did you see the clips of them being cooked in chocolate and soup etc....Phone had more artificial intelligence than some owners had brains. I am still totally baffled as to why one would take any phone into a shower? How does one wash? To what aim would one need a phone while in the shower? Never mind.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Thank you all for the kind information.
Hamdogg, may I ask you a little more about this cable you mention? Any links or other information would again be appreciated.
many thanks,
Ryland
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http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Charging-Cable-Xperia-Ultra/dp/B00FF9P1T6
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http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Charging-Cable-Xperia-Ultra/dp/B00FF9P1T6
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I didn't know such a cable existed! Thanks so much for the heads up. I have just placed my order with Amazon.
Many thanks, :good:
Ryland
I came from many phones
last 2 are S4 LTE , Note 3 LTE
Note 3 LTE has better camera and better screen brightness & whiteness
including some interactive sensors
However is need ZU big screen !!!
next ..... may be Note 8.4 Pro (if it has) / Tab 8.4 Pro / Note 10.1 2014
(use with bluetooth headset)
Well folks after 4 days ownership and use I am so far a very happy bunny. Providing I understand I have purchased a phablet and not a tablet nor a mobile phone but the best of both worlds I am content. The SBH52 makes a very good companion device. We have long very hot summers here so where I am going to keep the table while walking about in shorts and T-shirt, I have no idea though? I do like a challenge.:good:
Ryland
Can it be easily rooted on the latest firmware? Has the audio lag, touchscreen and lag issues been resolved? When was the last time the uk model has had a firmware update?
Is it true the micro sd card is read only on this tablet? Can file browsers like astro file browser acess the micro sd card ok?
Does the speaker placement cause any issues? Especially if you are going the be holding the tablet there most of the time.
How long does it take to charge the tablet?
Sorry for the long questions but i need to be sure that this is the right tablet for me, Samsung don't offer 32gb model in the uk so I'm really interested in the Z2 because of this.
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Can it be easily rooted on the latest firmware?
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Yes. I used this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792056 and it worked flawlessly. Rooted in just over a minute.
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Has the audio lag, touchscreen and lag issues been resolved?
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I've not seen any audio lag. The touchscreen isn't the most responsive I've ever used, but is fine with fingers. Stylii are a different issue - I've not found one that works well. I've not seen any lag whilst using the tablet (except for the odd microstutter when Google play decides to update everything at once). I updated to the latest firmware as soon as I got it, so I don't know what these were like before.
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When was the last time the uk model has had a firmware update?
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17.1.1.A.0.402 is the latest, released at the end of May.
HUYI said:
Is it true the micro sd card is read only on this tablet? Can file browsers like astro file browser acess the micro sd card ok?
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All KitKat devices restrict apps writing to the SD (Astro for example would only be able to read the SD). By default you can only write to the SD by plugging into a computer and copying files across. However, if you're rooted, you can just install SD Fix (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix) and get the pre-KitKat behaviour.
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Does the speaker placement cause any issues? Especially if you are going the be holding the tablet there most of the time.
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They're a little low, but the tablet is so light that you're not likely to be gripping it hard enough to distort the sound. Personally I tend to hold it one handed in landscape like I would a book, with my thumb on the front of bottom edge and my fingers splayed out on the back. This way the speakers are completely unobstructed.
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How long does it take to charge the tablet?
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I've not charged from empty, but using the charger it comes with seems pretty quick. I can put it on charge, go make a cup of coffee, get back and it will have gone up by a percent or two. I bought the magnetic dock, and just leave it there when I'm not using it. The battery easily gets me through a day of heavy use, and when I'm at home it just sits on the dock.
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Sorry for the long questions but i need to be sure that this is the right tablet for me, Samsung don't offer 32gb model in the uk so I'm really interested in the Z2 because of this.
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I had exactly the same thoughts (also in the UK). 32GB is the way to go. I've had mine about a month now. I've installed pretty much every app/game I'm going to need, and the internal memory is about 80% full.
Some more thoughts:
Pros
This thing is so thin and light that I forget I'm carrying it in my bag. For me, that's a huge bonus over other tablets, and more than makes up for its flaws. It's noticeably easier to hold than an iPad Air over long periods.
Sony's interface is very close to stock Android, and most bloatware (of which there is very little) can be uninstalled.
Waterproofing is nice to have. I thought it was a gimmick at first (does anyone actually use these in the bath?), but I use mine to display recipes whilst cooking, and it's nice to not have to worry about splashes and spills.
Vibration - it lets me know that I've turned it on. I wouldn't miss this if it were missing, but it's nice to have.
NFC. I love NFC. I have a tag on the bottom of my universal remote; I use the remote to turn on my Hi-Fi, swipe the tag across the tablet, and the tablet connects over Apt-X Bluetooth and starts Spotify. Magic!
Dual-shock compatibility. It just works (you need an OTG cable for the initial pairing, after that it's Bluetooth), and is very slick.
Cons
Screen resolution isn't as nice as other tablets. This isn't noticeable when used normally, though if it's closer to your face (e.g. you're lying down using it in bed), you can see the pixels.
The waterproof flaps on the SD and USB connectors feel a bit flimsy. I'd highly recommend the magnetic doc, or a connector adapter such as the Magnector-X for charging, so that you don't have to open the port covers.
It's a fingerprint magnet (but you can just wash it clean, because it's waterproof).
The IR blaster seems to have a very narrow "beam" so is a bit tricky to use. There is also a ~1 second delay between pressing the onscreen button and the IR signal being sent. I've given up on using it, but I'm not sure how much use I'd have gotten from it anyway.
I'd go to a store and have a play if I were you. Try and find one that's not got a huge security lock on it; I've seen this on display in some stores with a metal cage around it, or a huge self retracting security cable, which makes it hard to get a feel for how it would be to hold.
i know about the screen resolution, it's not as great compared samsung note 2014 but the Z2 has the advantage of more memory space, i think that is a good trade off imo.
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me, i like that it's light so i can sit down comfortably with it for long periods, i have the galaxy note 10.1 2012 model and it's quite heavy compared to current models out there now, especially for long periods of use.
that is a bonus that the tablet supports the dual shock 3 out of the box, on other devices you have to root to use the controller wirelessly.
the waterproof flaps you say are a issue, so if you are using it in a water environment wouldn't that cause problems?
the galaxy note 10.1 2012 is just as bad when it comes to finger prints but it can be easily cleaned.
i didn't know it has vibration feedback, no website lists this feature, so thanks for telling me that.
samsung is king of bloat, that is good that there is minimal it saves me having to remove it all when i set it up lol.
battery life sounds good, maybe even better than the galaxy note 2012, quite frequently i'm charging the device during the day while using it. it could be because the device is getting old though.
i use my stylus a lot on my galaxy tablet, can you offer me some feedback if you have used one on this tablet? that is good to hear that it's easily rooted.
and thanks a lot for the reply.
I am very happy with my Z2 tablet.
I've not had any issues with the waterproof flaps. One covers the microsd (and sim) slot and the other covers the usb port. If you get a wireless charger, you won't find yourself opening the flaps often. They stay in place and have not opened by themselves. I don't think you'll have problems with waterproofness.
I personally find that the screen keeps quite clean. It's a MAJOR improvement in this respect compared to my previous generation Xperia Tablet Z.
I've tried using the Z2 Tablet with a stylus (Lynktec Rechargeable Apex Fine Point Active Stylus). It's been disappointing. Writing is nowhere as precise as with the in-built stylus on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. If using a stylus with my tablet were important to me, I would have gone with a Galaxy Note tablet.
HUYI said:
i know about the screen resolution, it's not as great compared samsung note 2014 but the Z2 has the advantage of more memory space, i think that is a good trade off imo.
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me, i like that it's light so i can sit down comfortably with it for long periods, i have the galaxy note 10.1 2012 model and it's quite heavy compared to current models out there now, especially for long periods of use.
that is a bonus that the tablet supports the dual shock 3 out of the box, on other devices you have to root to use the controller wirelessly.
the waterproof flaps you say are a issue, so if you are using it in a water environment wouldn't that cause problems?
the galaxy note 10.1 2012 is just as bad when it comes to finger prints but it can be easily cleaned.
i didn't know it has vibration feedback, no website lists this feature, so thanks for telling me that.
samsung is king of bloat, that is good that there is minimal it saves me having to remove it all when i set it up lol.
battery life sounds good, maybe even better than the galaxy note 2012, quite frequently i'm charging the device during the day while using it. it could be because the device is getting old though.
i use my stylus a lot on my galaxy tablet, can you offer me some feedback if you have used one on this tablet? that is good to hear that it's easily rooted.
and thanks a lot for the reply.
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HUYI said:
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me
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I don't think you'll have any problems then. The top and bottom bezels (as viewed in landscape) are large enough that if held in portrait mode you're very unlikely to ever cover the speakers. Assuming you're right handed and holding the tablet with your left (this is how I read newspapers and magazines on mine), one speaker will be about an inch diagonally down and to the right of the base of your thumb, and the other will be well out of the way at what is now the top of the tablet.
It also worth pointing out that the tablet allows screen rotation in all directions (is this true of all tablets? My phone doesn't do this by default), so if you do ever find that the speaker placement is an issue, you can just rotate it 180°.
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I've not had any issues with the waterproof flaps. One covers the microsd (and sim) slot and the other covers the usb port. If you get a wireless charger, you won't find yourself opening the flaps often. They stay in place and have not opened by themselves. I don't think you'll have problems with waterproofness.
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Agreed. I should have been clearer when I listed the flaps as a con in my post above. I've got no concerns about their waterproofness. My concern is that if I was opening the USB cover daily to charge the tablet it might become weakened or damaged, which is why I bought the magnetic chargers. The port covers feel quite delicate when opened, but very secure when closed.
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I've tried using the Z2 Tablet with a stylus (Lynktec Rechargeable Apex Fine Point Active Stylus). It's been disappointing. Writing is nowhere as precise as with the in-built stylus on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. If using a stylus with my tablet were important to me, I would have gone with a Galaxy Note tablet.
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Same here. I've tried a DAGi 701 stylus (which is passive). Sketching is doable, but the display doesn't seem sensitive enough for writing. I hope that this is a software thing, though even if it were fixed, the extra features of the Note series such as the hover and palm detection would make it much more suited to note taking. I see the Z2 as more of a media consumption, rather than creation, device.
ok, thanks for the feedback guys, ill take all your replies in consideration when deciding, i use the black rubber end stylus, the one you mentioned is similar to the stylus that is included with the note 10.1, but it seems that no matter what stylus i will use i think i'll get the same results which is a shame really.