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Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
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Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Shylesh said:
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
Pwgadget said:
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
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Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
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i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
Extreme184X said:
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
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I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
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Would you recommend some best brands.
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There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
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Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
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The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
revan17 said:
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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I hate both, there's no other way to look at that, I like my phone as it is, but well scratches will come with time, that's a fact too, so I was wondering which to get. I mean if I go for a Tempered Screen Protector, could that save the display from shattering in case of an accidental drop? Or shall I be using a Protective Case? I know that the corners of a phone are the most important parts, that's where protection should be present, so am I wrong to guess that a tempered glass protector can't protect the corners? I am thinking from a phone drop point of view, not normal scratches, for normal scratches I think I don't need a tempered glass screen protector, a normal one shall do.
So what shall I aim for, a case or the other?
If it's a case then which one? I love the UAG cases for the protection it provides, but hate them for their industrial design, but I won't buy something which won't have a good amount of lip around the screen to protect it from drops and kinds. I need something simple and neat looking, low profile and lightweight and the material should be half rugged so that it won't slip out from my palms.
Thanks in advance.
Tempered glass will NOT save the screen from every drop. If it's face impact then yes most likely will save but if impact is on back of phone and no case or very slim case will Crack LCD it self. Wife's note had a super slim tpu case and LCD shattered but both glass were fine.
i always go with glass screen protector and thin tpu jelly type case. doesn't protect if like an otterbox but will be able to handle any of the minor mishaps i might have. i am very careful and treat my phones like gold so it hasn't failed me so far.
i realize there are plenty of things that setup will not protect your phone for but i can not stand to add bulk to any phone no matter how thin it starts out
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Tempered glass will NOT save the screen from every drop. If it's face impact then yes most likely will save but if impact is on back of phone and no case or very slim case will Crack LCD it self. Wife's note had a super slim tpu case and LCD shattered but both glass were fine.
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Yep, you are right.
I have decided to get a Nillkin 9H tempered protector and a Spigen Neo Hybrid, I guess these will do more than fine for protection.
devilsdouble said:
Yep, you are right.
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I have decided to get a Nillkin 9H tempered protector and a Spigen Neo Hybrid, I guess these will do more than fine for protection.
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I don't like because the nilkin one gets fingerprints too easy.
Gonna look into others and change this one
Best one I've used so far is the xtremeguard spartan. Not as bad as others as far as smudge and prints. All though, they changed the design lately, and sold them, was hoping for them to send me the previous design.
Most of the screen protecors I have used have been garbage. I hate the peel ones becauase some small piece of dust always seems to get trapped under them. The ones where you use water to stick them are pretty cool, but I haven't found any that are amazing. What I'm looking for is a screen protector that isn't a fingerprint magnent, but also one that is easy to install. Any suggestions?
DroidsEATapples86 said:
Most of the screen protecors I have used have been garbage. I hate the peel ones becauase some small piece of dust always seems to get trapped under them. The ones where you use water to stick them are pretty cool, but I haven't found any that are amazing. What I'm looking for is a screen protector that isn't a fingerprint magnent, but also one that is easy to install. Any suggestions?
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Have you tried note 3 tempered glass screen protector? They are amazing and easy to apply.
I have a tempered glass screen that I haven't put on yet. They sound good, but I'm worried about two things: the screen being a fingerprint and smudge magnet and if a case would be able to go over the phone with a tempered glass screen.
I have one that I haven't used yet because I am worried about a few things:
Will it attract fingerprints and smudges and will a case be able to fit the phone with that particular screen protector?
I can highly recommend the Nillkin 9H tempered screen protector. It costs around ₹800 here in my country (so should be around 12-13 USD/10 EURO) and it is an extreme value for money product. I really love mine.
Finger print magnet? I don't know! All the hard type screen protectors catch finger prints and smudges, I think, but I won't call it to the extent of being a magnet. With any tempered screen protector one thing a person should do, clean it whenever you get a chance.
If you're truly worried about fingerprints you may want to consider buying an oleophobic coating kit. It's a liquid/gel based coating that is fingerprint resistant. It's already applied to phones in the factory by default, but it wears off.
Most cases have no problem with tempered glass screen protectors.
Spigen is really good. I think they also have a fingerprint resistant one.
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Hello im Veronica and this is my first post owing this phone and im loving it! i bought a glass protection that come is curve design but it didnt fit well bubbles of air started to appear and i took it off
Have you tried the liquid protection ? i dont know the name of the product but is a liquid you put in the screen and it makes it hard
Please help me what do you use to protect it?
I use the uv Loca glue and glue on the curved tempered glass protectors on mine
Hi veronica. I own now an s8, but my previous phone was a galaxy s7 (the flat one), in which I had a tempered glass protector. But now, with the curved display of miss s8, the tempered glass I've found are not so great. I really don't recommend the liquid protection , that supposed nano tech solution. I've seen it, and its effects are practically none. U can't tell when u you've applied or not.
As the previous post says, the better solution is to take a tempered glass and UV glue between that and the gorilla glass, and dry it in the UV lamp. That way, u get a better protection, but need to try take out the air bubbles that may get in the process before dry.
I'm sorry if my English can't be excellent, because it's not my original language.
Greetings to u.
I also would be interested in mounting a tempered glass screen protector with a liquid adhesive and then drying it with a UV lamp. The end result looks very good, but I wonder if it does affect the screen of the phone. In case that I would like to remove the foil or replace it ... I do not know if the adhesive is "peaceful", if it leaves residual traces or I risk of having to change the touchscreen at the same time with the glass: D
I'd like to buy this: https://bit.ly/2SSQMZT (Aliexpress).
To be honest, the Spigen NeoFlex is the absolute best option in my opinion. I normally do not like these "Self-Healing" type but, it has been amazing, stays on all corners and I can continue to use my very light but very protective Spigen case as well. I normally do not like cases but the one I use is okay, especially since I have already shattered the front and rear of the phone once. Don't want to do it again.
I second this...
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To be honest, the Spigen NeoFlex is the absolute best option in my opinion. I normally do not like these "Self-Healing" type but, it has been amazing, stays on all corners and I can continue to use my very light but very protective Spigen case as well. I normally do not like cases but the one I use is okay, especially since I have already shattered the front and rear of the phone once. Don't want to do it again.
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I've tried about 6 different tempered glass protectors, and all have either made it very difficult to pull down the top menu, or have gotten dust/lint behind the screen. Went to the Spigen NeoFlex 'film' and never looked back. In fact, I just ordered another set of them because I got polyurethane fingerprints on the screen while doing a wood railing. I had zero problems, it doesn't affect touch sensitivity. I will say that getting the sides to stay took a few minutes of work, but once stuck, it has stayed that way for 8 months so far. I paired it with a Spigen LiquidArmor case. I've dropped the phone onto my ceramic floors several times already and had no damage to the phone. I use wireless charging with no problems.