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I posted this issue on Android Central as well, but not as much chatter over there. Here is my issue:
I had this problem with my Samsung GSII as well and thought it may just be a fluke, but now I am having the same issue with my new Note.
Due to lack of free application storage, I move (VIA the App manager) most of my larger games on to the Micro SD card. Which looks like it works fine, however, after a while, not so much.
The Note (and all Samsungs) go through the scans when you boot up the phone on the internal storage and the memory card... Upon completion of this scan, the phone just keeps resetting. Once I pull the memory card out, I am good to go, but all my games were on the memory card.
I am using a PNY Class 10 card and am thinking maybe it is corrupt? Or maybe I am really not supposed to load everything on to the card like that?
Thoughts? Anyone else run in to this?
Thanks!
you do realize that most apps including large games take less than 50mb of space. and we have a 2GB storage partition you can store hundreds of apps with no problem. TBH i wouldnt bother with moving them until you do actually run out of app space.
As much as I hate to admit my app problem... I have long ago surpassed the 2G app storage..
After years of purchasing apps and many very good free apps of the day from Amazon, 2GB no longer cuts it for me.
Thanks.
wow really well the issue is that the phone itself uses the internal memory as the default storage location. There are some hacks but i wouldn't recommend using them on this phone as they are untested. Do you honestly use all those applications? I have tons of apps that I really dont use anymore that were from the donut days of android.
Your response sounds like some of the responses I get from our developers... "Well, tell them not to use it and it wont break!".
I say that in good fun. No, I dont use them all, but whenever I get a new device, I like to load it up with my stuff to test it out.
I could definitely remove or just not install about half of them, but again, that doesnt fix the problem. It simply avoids the problem.
Thanks again for your response.
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I posted this issue on Android Central as well, but not as much chatter over there. Here is my issue:
I had this problem with my Samsung GSII as well and thought it may just be a fluke, but now I am having the same issue with my new Note.
Due to lack of free application storage, I move (VIA the App manager) most of my larger games on to the Micro SD card. Which looks like it works fine, however, after a while, not so much.
The Note (and all Samsungs) go through the scans when you boot up the phone on the internal storage and the memory card... Upon completion of this scan, the phone just keeps resetting. Once I pull the memory card out, I am good to go, but all my games were on the memory card.
I am using a PNY Class 10 card and am thinking maybe it is corrupt? Or maybe I am really not supposed to load everything on to the card like that?
Thoughts? Anyone else run in to this?
Thanks!
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I have the same problem & no solution. I ended up restoring the Note on day 3 of ownership due to the constant resetting. Is there a way to make the internal 16GB the default install location?
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Honestly, I have about 8 gigs of apps installed, all moved to external SD card - a 64GB Sandisk Class 6. No reboots and no issues at all. Always move everything I can to external SD. Not sure why, just some mental preference in me likes to keep the phone itself as free as possible. Never had a restart or a crash because of it. Always used App2SD Pro app or Force to SD if rooted andnits been flawless - same experience on the SGS2 as well. Sounds like a corrupt card to me, honestly. Were you using he same card when you had issues in your previous Samsung devices?
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Hey, don't know if a topic on this was already started, so please delete if it was, but this whole internal and external storage creates so much frustration. All the apps just save their content to /sdcard which is just the internal memory. I would personally just like to combine the sdcard with the internal memory and create one big storage...just a thought though.
I kinda solved my own problem with this simple fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27539066#post27539066
The only problem with that would be you would then never be able to remove your SD card without corrupting all of the data, or so I would think.
We have good enough app space I wouldn't want to tank performance on the phone for that. Those features are better off for older phones or phones without good specs
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
Yea I'm having some issues trying to figure out how to move data around between storage on this device
I don't understand how this is complicated. Am I missing something? Why in the world would a device with 16GB of internal space and nothing else be preferable to one with 16GB of internal space PLUS a 32GB sd card?
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.... I never said i wouldn't want the extra storage im just trying to figure out what goes where and how to easily move data between internal and the sd card. Ive had some success astro.
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
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Regarding partitions, that's because Android is founded on the roots of Linux, if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitionsare used and needed
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firmbiz94 said:
.... I never said i wouldn't want the extra storage im just trying to figure out what goes where and how to easily move data between internal and the sd card. Ive had some success astro.
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Just use an app like Astro, Root Explorer, or ES File Explorer and it will allow you to easily move your data to basically wherever you want on the phone/external sd card.
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
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Yeah, that's one of the things I like about the galaxy nexus and the one x, is just having internal. The SD card option is great, but not much of use, if all apps are going to do is save to the internal memory (*cough* Google music) and leave it up to the user to bind the folders together...but I digress.
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if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitionsare used and needed
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It's just a personal preferance. I have used many different distros of Linux along with Unix. I like to put all my money into one pants pocket. I don't like to have some money in the back, some in front, some in the left pocket.
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I could and have easily filled 16gbs of storage! Bluray rips lol
You probably don't need an sd card slot for this device if your an average user. Me on the other hand thinks its perfect that my apps are in internal storage and my photos,music,vids use my 64gb extsd. I'm pretty sure the internal flash is faster then my class 10 card. It seems they have it partitioned correctly. I don't understand why you would want to put your apps in the sd,probably slower & becomes non removable.
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lonnydub said:
It's just a personal preferance. I have used many different distros of Linux along with Unix. I like to put all my money into one pants pocket. I don't like to have some money in the back, some in front, some in the left pocket.
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I prefer my apps in one pocket and my videos/photos in the other. Otherwise I'd be spending to much time trying to find crap in one pocket lol
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I could and have easily filled 16gbs of storage! Bluray rips lol
You probably don't need an sd card slot for this device if your an average user. Me on the other hand thinks its perfect that my apps are in internal storage and my photos,music,vids use my 64gb extsd. I'm pretty sure the internal flash is faster then my class 10 card. It seems they have it partitioned correctly. I don't understand why you would want to put your apps in the sd,probably slower & becomes non removable.
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I prefer my apps in one pocket and my videos/photos in the other. Otherwise I'd be spending to much time trying to find crap in one pocket lol
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See...I guess it's really a personal preference. It just bothers me, when I have a 32 GB card just sitting there with only 2 GB used, meanwhile my internal storage has only 2 GB free.
use link2sd....this thread has more info..basically use ext2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678817&highlight=link2sd
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Regarding partitions, that's because Android is founded on the roots of Linux, if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitions are used and needed
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Actually, I have a fair amount of Linux knowledge and have set up more than a few PC's and servers in my time. I've never understood the reasoning behind it, and it really isn't needed, as you can do a single partition install on even the most recent distros and it will operate normally. You don't need a separate system and homespace. It is unnecessary, and in my opinion managing multiple partitions in that manner is a pain and adds to clutter. I will install it that way if people want me to, but I don't enjoy it that way.
If you grab any older Linux CD, you will see that a lot of them will normally install and configure itself on one data partition unless you state otherwise, and there is a reason for that. It's bad enough that the OS by default dislikes you being an admin all the time, which I also find ignorant. If you can't use a PC without fear of breaking something then you probably shouldn't be using one. It's just another extra precaution taken to try and make it more user friendly.
I don't know if you ever have, but I wasted one hour doing some editing in vi just for me to try and save and realize I forgot to use sudo so I couldn't use the necessary admin privileges... If I have permissions to perform an administrative task, then saying "I want to be admin now" shouldn't be necessary. Most people wouldn't make that mistake, but I have, and now I'll probably never do it again.
Granted, I do see a use for apps like superuser as a seemingly legitimate app in the market could do something dangerous behind the scenes and you can't easily monitor that(and I don't have to approve root each time I use a root app, unlike having to sudo before everything)
What app are some of you are using that's taking up lots of internal storage. I can see games and game data would do that. In that case use GL to SD app. When you open the app it will list games installed (sometimes other apps) and when you click on any it will prompt for a download game data but instead of downloading to internal it will download to micro sd which will save your internal space. If you've already downloaded data prior to installing GL to SD you can just delete them and let GL to SD download it to card or you can transfer them to the games(this might be different with the current GL to SD app) folder in your sd card.
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First time poster, long time reader. Switching from WebOS I was apprehensive only because the community behind it was so strong but Android is winning me over slowly but surely.
My question is this. On my Evo 3d I could export all of my apps to the SD card no problem. On my new (beautiful) Evo 4g LTE I can't seem to save my apps to the external SD card, I've tried APP2SD and a couple of other root enabled apps and they all seem to recognize the internal SD as being the preferred place to move these things. I haven't run out of space yet but I'd like to find a solution before I do.
I didn't buy a 32gb for nothing, please help if possible.
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New post in development thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166
Looks promising.
I'm still wondering the same thing.
Is the 8gb of internal phone storage not enough for your apps? I mean you still get the benefit of speed from the built in memory and it's plenty of space for a lot of apps. I have a 64 gb micro sd I use it for media.
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My sd is primarily media but I only have about 1gb left on the internal.
In the words of every person starting out an informercial "There's got to be a better way!"
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use link2sd...this thread explains the settings, basically use ext2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678817&highlight=link2sd
Check here for possable work around.
Note: need to be rooted to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166
Alright guys, I noticed today that my Titanium Backups aren't on my mount/extsd storage, and I tried to change the backup location under preferences, but it wouldn't allow me. While checking my sd card I noticed the only file stored on it is my pictures? I tried downloading apps to sd in an attempt to move titanium backup, and that's when I realized I have a serious issue I believe. I was given a message when apps to sd opened that said, "this device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated"? Whatever the hell that means by emulated I don't know? The sd card was working in the last phone I used it in.
Biggest problem is that I'm rooted, so I can't return it under warranty! At least I can't to my knowledge. I'm in serious need of some help here, I purchased the phone at the T mobile retail store, so I don't know if I can sneak it past them somehow, or if I should maybe just (it hurts to say it) brick it on purpose, and pull the old" it just shut off and wouldn't turn back on" routine?
Please guys, any and all advice will be much appreciated!
Before doing anything drastic, have you thought about maybe reformatting the SD card first? If that doesn't work then try another SD card (they do go bad you know). It sounds like something that should be easy to fix. Whatever you do please don't brick it on purpose. It's not anyone's fault that your device is now acting up after rooting it. At least do them a solid and ODIN back to stock, then try to return it if that's the case.
Hi,
You should read this thread. It should shed some light on your external SD card problem and provide a couple of methods to get around it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672507
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Paging Dr B said:
Before doing anything drastic, have you thought about maybe reformatting the SD card first? If that doesn't work then try another SD card (they do go bad you know). It sounds like something that should be easy to fix. Whatever you do please don't brick it on purpose. It's not anyone's fault that your device is now acting up after rooting it. At least do them a solid and ODIN back to stock, then try to return it if that's the case.
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Yes I did format it to no avail, and I'm headed home soon where I'll try a different sd card. I don't want to brick the device, and I've had to unroot and return a phone before because of a hardware issue with the screen that wasn't my fault. The problem with doing that in this situation is that I don't believe there's a way to unroot it and go back to the stock recovery or reset the binary flash counter. As far as you saying it's not anyone's fault, it sure is my friend and it's not mine! I had a Galaxy s4g that wouldn't read an sd card two days after I got it & I had to return it. So, as far as being no one's fault, not true... It would be Samsungs fault, and rooting it had nothing to do with it. If I broke a device because of my own foolishness or stupidity, I would ABSOLUTELY NEVER try to exchange it! The entire basis of my spirituality is based on karma and I would suck it up & pay for my mistake but maintain my peace of mind. This however, I am not at fault for, and I shouldn't be responsible for faulty hardware just because I obtained root access.
This is a good read on the external SD card permission problems on the Samsung S3
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
and this is one way to get around it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Glasairmell said:
This is a good read on the external SD card permission problems on the Samsung S3
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
and this is one way to get around it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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Okay I've read the links and this is very odd??? I need to hear from someone with the gs3 that they've also discover that they're phone recognizes & reads the sd card, but will not allow apps to write to it. PLEASE, someone check this and help me out here!
I REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF ALL Gs3's DO THIS, OR IF I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK & EXCHANGE IT?
Sorry for the frustration, but I just spent a heck of a lot of money here, and this is a very aggravating problem....
My TB backs up to the ext SD. I had the same problem you did. Too bad I can't actually remember what I did. :crying:
When you go into TB and try to select storage location...nothing comes up but the internal?
I think I manually moved the TB folder from the internal to the external...then went back into TB to select the location...then selected the Detect button...and it came up with a list of folders that I could choose.
It went something like that. Hope that sheds some light...(sorry I cant remember exactly)
FYI...the ext SD folder is under mnt/extSD...or something like that.
I forget to mention something else guys. I am able to copy & paste my Titanium Backups as well as any other files to the sd card. So, the phone recognizes it, and it will write to external sd if I manually copy things there, but it will not allow any third party apps to write to external sd? I also cannot move apps to the sd card? This is a HUGE pain in the ass! I bought the 16gb model because that's all the retailer I my area had, so the sd card is a necessity for me. If I'm downloading torrents or other large files this could be a problem. I'm really wondering if this isn't just my phone?
It'd be great if someone here with the skills could port this mod for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433436
It basically makes the phone think that the external is the internal...and all files downloaded from the browsers or whatever app that doesn't allow sd access...to go directly to external.
SiNJiN76 said:
My TB backs up to the ext SD. I had the same problem you did. Too bad I can't actually remember what I did. :crying:
When you go into TB and try to select storage location...nothing comes up but the internal?
I think I manually moved the TB folder from the internal to the external...then went back into TB to select the location...then selected the Detect button...and it came up with a list of folders that I could choose.
It went something like that. Hope that sheds some light...(sorry I cant remember exactly)
FYI...the ext SD folder is under mnt/extSD...or something like that.
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Sorry nothing! THANK YOU! I was like 3/4 of the way to that idea, I had already copied the file, but I was just thinking maybe if I deleted the internal file, maybe now it will follow the one I copied to the mount/extsdstorage? I can't thank you enough for just confirming that this isn't a problem specific to my model. I think that this problem should be explained to everyone & stickied. This is a seriously confusing situation. Ppl who don't root or come to XDA won't have any idea why they're music, videos, or anything from third party apps aren't going to their sd cards? Some ppl may not even realize it? I don't know if it's been mentioned in another thread here yet, but I couldn't find anything in our forums about it, and I've been trying to figure out what was going on all day. I still don't understand what the hell it meant about emulated storage?
SiNJiN76 said:
It'd be great if someone here with the skills could port this mod for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433436
It basically makes the phone think that the external is the internal...and all files downloaded from the browsers or whatever app that doesn't allow sd access...to go directly to external.
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Is this already a widely recognized problem and I'm just late to the freaking party or what? Because I do follow threads, search the forums, and read, and I've never heard of this before... I hope they have this error fixed in roms.
I REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF ALL Gs3's DO THIS,
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All stock Samsung Galaxies S3 do this. Google in their infinite wisdom is locking down apps so they can not write to an external card that can infect other devices.
Problem is we all want more control with our external cards and there are a lot of unhappy campers with this new "feature". Gamers are especially concerned because they can not install their games to the external card to free up more space.
This is a real strong reason to buy the 32gb model and not the 16gb. One could take the stance that they are forcing us to pay a higher premium for our storage when we purchase the phone.
As I said you can do the work around with directory bind until:
1. A dev comes up with a a patch
2. You install a custom Rom like Cm9 that has patched out this security policy.
Never mind... Now that I'm using better keywords to describe the problem, and searching outside of just the US variants forum, I'm finding threads... I feel like an idiot now! Some folks are talking as if this is better? I don't see it though. I did a nandroid after root, and it only left me with around 8gb or so with my apps installed. I know its faster memory than an sd card, but it's kind of a pain. I hope I never need to download anything bigger than 8gb... Doubtful ill need my phone for anything that big though.
Sorry for freaking out and making a big deal out of this issue, but I thought my device was defective, and I wasn't using good search terms. I should have been able to figure this out without cluttering things with a two Page thread.
Glasairmell said:
All stock Samsung Galaxies S3 do this. Google in their infinite wisdom is locking down apps so they can not write to an external card that can infect other devices.
Problem is we all want more control with our external cards and there are a lot of unhappy campers with this new "feature". Gamers are especially concerned because they can not install their games to the external card to free up more space.
This is a real strong reason to buy the 32gb model and not the 16gb. One could take the stance that they are forcing us to pay a higher premium for our storage when we purchase the phone.
As I said you can do the work around with directory bind until:
1. A dev comes up with a a patch
2. You install a custom Rom like Cm9 that has patched out this security policy.
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Yes, I really wish I could take it back and pay the difference for the 32gb, but with being rooted its really not feasible. I was browsing XDA on my phone also, and I didn't even catch the link in your first post, I was only reading the links I your second post, lol. I really feel like a dummy here since my question was almost immediately answered. Also, the browser can act a little wonky sometimes on XDA. As soon as I made it home to my desktop, I was looking over the thread & knocking my forehead against the screen!
Yeah...but if someone could modify that script for our phones...(I personally use it on my Transformer...and til this day...has been perfect.) :angel:
Sorry for freaking out and making a big deal out of this issue,
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Actually you are bringing up a valid concern and one of the first to do it in this section of the US version of the S3, my hat off to you!
It would be good idea to have a stickied thread in general that addresses this. That way ppl will be well aware of how to work around it. And yes, a patch for this would be great, because some may prefer things this way, and alot will prefer the previous standards. I for one don't like this one bit!
Put a stock rom on it and go into the store. Tell them you're having issues, they can order one on their end and send it out to you.
I would know. I worked there.
Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
Flash the Google edition ROM. Or you can get a micro SD card. Maybe use Google drive?
If you're in your return window, return it and get the 32GB version.
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Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
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Buying an external SD card is definitely the answer.
I bought a 64GB SD from Sandisk, I was having problems just like everyone else. The card would unexpectedly unmount every few minutes, so I couldn't listen to music without being interrupted. However, Sandisk is fully aware of the problems its cards are having with Samsung phones. I contacted them, they sent me a new card with an "updated firmware". I have had the card for nearly a month now, and haven't had any issues with it. They have solved the problem.
So if you buy a card that has come right out of the factory, you, too, should have zero issues. If you buy one that is a little old, you can contact them and they'll send you a new one that WILL work.
You have very few options without a SD card. 9 GB of storage is far too little, and cloud storage is just messy. You shouldn't have to rely on mobile networks to have access to your data.
Hit thanks if I helped you, and good luck if you decide to buy an SD card.
I wish I would've waited until they released the 32 gb version, but I'm well past the return date. I've deleted most bloatware I don't want, but I still would like to keep some of it, so I can't flash the google edition rom. I'd rather just delete it myself, but I'm using root explorer and I heard that causes problems. I'll probably just get an sd card and update my phone. I don't know how seeing as I've rooted it, but I can worry about that later!
I still don't get how there can be so much bloatware. I know there's the OS, but that can't be more than 4. Most of the bloat apps aren't even that big. Anyways, thanks for the help.
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Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
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Your misc files should not change if you delete bloat. If it did decrease in size, that would be a major cause for concern, as those don't represent the bloat you deleted. Debloating really isn't going to gain you any usable space because the apps that you are deleting reside on the system partition. Bloated or not, that partition is going to remain the exact same size regardless. Deleting apps from it does not make that space available to user apps or storage- it remains available only to /system.
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Jakob13 said:
I wish I would've waited until they released the 32 gb version, but I'm well past the return date. I've deleted most bloatware I don't want, but I still would like to keep some of it, so I can't flash the google edition rom. I'd rather just delete it myself, but I'm using root explorer and I heard that causes problems. I'll probably just get an sd card and update my phone. I don't know how seeing as I've rooted it, but I can worry about that later!
I still don't get how there can be so much bloatware. I know there's the OS, but that can't be more than 4. Most of the bloat apps aren't even that big. Anyways, thanks for the help.
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No, you won't have to update your phone. Your phone wasn't causing the problem. When I said they "updated the firmware" I was talking about the SD card. If you get a Sandisk card straight out of the factory now, it should work with your S4 regardless of your root status or your custom rom.
So to be perfectly clear, Samsung didn't update its firmware, Sandisk did.
If your SD card doesn't work, simply contact Sandisk and they'll send you one that works. Simple as that. You WILL NOT have to change ANYTHING with your phone.
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Your misc files should not change if you delete bloat. If it did decrease in size, that would be a major cause for concern, as those don't represent the bloat you deleted. Debloating really isn't going to gain you any usable space because the apps that you are deleting reside on the system partition. Bloated or not, that partition is going to remain the exact same size regardless. Deleting apps from it does not make that space available to user apps or storage- it remains available only to /system.
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I was under the impression that doing that does free up space. An sd card really is my salvation here.
Spike96 said:
No, you won't have to update your phone. Your phone wasn't causing the problem. When I said they "updated the firmware" I was talking about the SD card. If you get a Sandisk card straight out of the factory now, it should work with your S4 regardless of your root status or your custom rom.
So to be perfectly clear, Samsung didn't update its firmware, Sandisk did.
If your SD card doesn't work, simply contact Sandisk and they'll send you one that works. Simple as that. You WILL NOT have to change ANYTHING with your phone.
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I know little about how moving apps to sd cards works, but I was saying that because I rooted before the new update so I'll need to update to move apps unless apps2sd works.
najaboy, I have a question because you seem to be knowledgeable about this. How is it that just system memory takes up 6.38 GB? Is it because of Samsung exclusive features like touchwiz and all those airgimmicks?
Jakob13 said:
I was under the impression that doing that does free up space. An sd card really is my salvation here.
I know little about how moving apps to sd cards works, but I was saying that because I rooted before the new update so I'll need to update to move apps unless apps2sd works.
najaboy, I have a question because you seem to be knowledgeable about this. How is it that just system memory takes up 6.38 GB? Is it because of Samsung exclusive features like touchwiz and all those airgimmicks?
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AH! Ok I see what your saying. I don't think it is necessary to lose root to move apps to your SD, though. I've seen a lot of positive comments about Foldermount. Foldermount should free up space in your internal storage no problem. Check it out.
I'm also pretty confident that soon the rom devs will incorporate the update that Verizon put out into their own roms.
And about your question to najaboy, the 6.38 GB is everything that makes your phone's software. Yes, air gestures, smart stay, all of that. I do find it a little misleading Samsung advertises a 16GB phone, but I like keeping my data on a card anyway.
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Spike96 said:
AH! Ok I see what your saying. I don't think it is necessary to lose root to move apps to your SD, though. I've seen a lot of positive comments about Foldermount. Foldermount should free up space in your internal storage no problem. Check it out.
I'm also pretty confident that soon the rom devs will incorporate the update that Verizon put out into their own roms.
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Root is a prerequisite.
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