See poll above
Unlikely
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I hate polls you can't see them on Tapatalk. But I think it looks like all we will ever have is root.
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Do you guys know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? Honestly, I think it will happen, ive learned a lot just so I can try to help solve this too. The more negative people are about it though the less likely people will be to discuss it or be motivated to do it.
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Realistically the only people "qualified" to answer this question would be a developer working on this. Anything a normal user says is pure speculation.
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I don't mind speculation.
If enough of us wish for it to happen than maybe it will (remember Peter Pan?)
There's a way around everything.
Self fulfilling prophecy theory is lame. Not only is it fake but a lazy way to think. The only ones who can figure it out are the ones trying to hack it. The rest of the people can think whatever they want. They have no impact on it happening or not.
With that said I do not believe this will be unlocked. The beauty of design in this thing limits the amount of roads one can take to attack it. Its never been cracked and its been tried for well over a year spanning multiple devices. We only had a *unlock* because of leaked info. That's it. If that didn't happen we would all have nothing.
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I am optimistic but honestly I will likely be on the next device GN3 or something else long before it happens. Yet I still offered up my money to help motivate those who can get it done.
Odds Key Lime Pie for S4 happens?
As a previous Verizon user, I don't see this being unlocked.. Sorry
Not holding my breath. Anyone like to purchase a brand new GS4? I will never buy another phone before doing some homework. Good luck to those trying.
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The real question isn't will it be unlocked (it won't be). It's will a leaked unlocked bootloader become available.
This is basically bad new for anyone wanting a phone with SDcard support and an unlocked boot loader in the future on VZW or AT&T. Samsung is the only SD option now... And it looks like they've got this boot loader thing locked down (no pun intended), at least when it comes up Qualcomm. If the Note 3 uses an s800, I don't see why the boot loader situation would be any different from the S4 and S4 active...
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Vote with your goddamned wallets!
I hate to also be the voice of reason but the sad reality is that this booting processes is sealed up tight and it's all Verizon's doing. I'm here for my room mate who hates his stock S4 with a passion but absolutely loves my CM10.x+OC S4...I just switched from Sprint to T-Mobile, for networks. I considered Verizon and ATT but having had friends with Verizon phones (Motos especially) over the past few years I knew that it was nearly pointless, save for a leaked engineering/unlocked signed bootloader or 1 chance at an exploit on release-day firmware before it was sealed up tight and likely for good.
It's not that I have no hope, there's always a chance and there is always a way...but with each successive breach of such a system the next iteration becomes exponentially more difficult to overcome.
I stuck with Sprint's haggard network for years because I knew they didn't give phone hackers a hard time. I switched to T-Mobile because I did my research and found the same. HTC capitulated on their new locked and encryption signed bootloaders after the EVO3D debacle a few years back.
As for my new Samsung Galaxy S4? I had my phone for 20 minutes before I flashed a custom recovery and had a CM10.1 nightly running with a custom 2.2ghz OC kernel that comes with tons of governors, tons of IO schedulers...on light use with screen turned down low, OC'd to 135mhz/2.1ghz I can get almost 2 days out of my phone and it is smooth as effing silk like no phone I've ever seen...and I've had no wakelock problems.
This phone screams.
Am I bragging? Sure...but not to hurt your feelings. I'm sick of companies acting like THEY own the computer that YOU bought for YOUR pocket. I'm bragging to enrage you.
Vote with your goddamned wallets. I did when HTC wouldn't unload their bootlockers (lol), and Samsung will forever have my business unless they start that crap too (or their phones start to suck)....same goes for T-Mobile. (Protip: stick to the underdogs. You get far better customer service and far more leeway...when you are #1 and #2 you appear to not need to try anymore and treating your customers like idiot children and criminals is somehow acceptable).
This isn't Samsung's doing...ask any Sprint, T-Mobile or international model owners.
Vote with your goddamned wallets.
I wish the best to you my brethren. Good luck and happy hacking.
well...
This was a depressing thread
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This was a depressing thread
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Lol.
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I wouldn't give out hope. The Droid dna took ages but they finally got it. Sometimes it just takes time. Be patient.
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There's a way around everything.
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True, but sometimes the trip the way around is so long, almost nobody will care in the end.
Related
Guess ill just be waiting for the Galaxy S II.
http://androidpolice.com/2011/05/24...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
Shouldn't this be on evo 3D forums insted? Lol
For everyone else here is the link
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
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Lol
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Well, looks like I will be sticking with the O.G. Evo. This is very disappointing.
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There, the gauntlet has been thrown down . . .
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Guess ill just be waiting for the Galaxy S II.
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
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I was thinking about getting the Evo 3D. But after reading this, I'm gonna just stay with my Nexus S 4G.
Lame. May as well get an iPhone. Wont be getting an EVO the next time around I guess.
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Just lost respect for HTC. Smh
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While this is bad news for us, how many people are actually going to be able to sit back and not run to the store to purchase this phone the day it is released.
If enough people had the will power to stay away maybe it would send a message to HTC, but I don't think we have that kind of will power. To add to that, I believe the EVO and now the EVO 3d sell extrememly well to people who have no idea what rooting even means and just enjoy the phone for what it is.
I still think we are in the minority when it comes to these things.....So the sales numbers will let HTC know if this has any effect on it but I say the EVO 3d still sells strong.
Won't be for long lol someone will get in and do all sorts of good.
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Guess ill just be waiting for the Galaxy S II.
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Likewise
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While this is bad news for us, how many people are actually going to be able to sit back and not run to the store to purchase this phone the day it is released.
If enough people had the will power to stay away maybe it would send a message to HTC, but I don't think we have that kind of will power. To add to that, I believe the EVO and now the EVO 3d sell extrememly well to people who have no idea what rooting even means and just enjoy the phone for what it is.
I still think we are in the minority when it comes to these things.....
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I agree but we can make a impact none the less still blows though ill wait for the next Google phone
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Meh, I've noticed recently that stock seems to perform better than most/all custom ROMs anyway. Perhaps this way I'll spend less time messing around with my phone... As long as I can get partial root to remove bloatware I'll be fine and I'm confident this wont be an issue.
On another note, I think this statement is BS: "It seems HTC has finally caved to what are likely the security demands of wireless carriers with its newest phones, and is locking down its handsets Moto-style..."
It has yet to be confirmed that bootloaders are being locked at the request of carriers. The argument against tethering is invalid because full root is not required to run root access wireless tethering apps. I think this is solely the decision of manufacturers- why they are making this decision, I don't know...
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Shouldn't this be on evo 3D forums insted? Lol
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Umm, after news like that, I expct it to be a little uhh echo-y in those forums . Unless someone wants to flex their signed bootloader cracking skills in there.
I am still getting this device day one. If I decide I can't live without full root then I'll return it and wait for something else. Can't lose with Sprint's 30 day satisfaction guarantee.
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I still think we are in the minority when it comes to these things.....So the sales numbers will let HTC know if this has any effect on it but I say the EVO 3d still sells strong.
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I agree 100%, but this doesn't change the fact that htc is telling an entire committed of supportive (and vocal) customers to go stick it unnecessarily. While they don't care if they lose my business, I am disappointed in them and will likely end up going with another manufacturer.
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So ultimately what does this mean to the layman? Will it just take longer for full root to become available?
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So ultimately what does this mean to the layman? Will it just take longer for full root to become available?
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If its anything like the droids - you'll eventual have root if theres a exploit but full custom kernels are thrown out the window, so are full custom roms. All you'll have is minor superficial modifications to the official ROM. That means that you'll only taste a new version of Android if HTC/Sprint officially releases it for the 3D. That also means no CM, no MIUI, no ported ROMs.
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If its anything like the droids - you'll eventual have root if theres a exploit but full custom kernels are thrown out the window, so are full custom roms. All you'll have is minor superficial modifications to the official ROM. That means that you'll only taste a new version of Android if HTC/Sprint officially releases it for the 3D.
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Well that just made my decision easier. Hello Galaxy S II.
Preordered and disappointed. SgsII
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The last few days have been very slow in this forum. I hope people are just satisfied with the phone and are not posting. I guess I'm just spoiled by the Evo 4g forum where you always had something new to read.
Starting to worry.
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Not even one thread has reached a 1000 posts yet. Its pretty sad. I know people keep saying good things will come, but I lost hope a while ago. Not trolling. I know everyone does this development stuff during their free time
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For me - I love the phone. Only thing I'd change would be placement of the USB port relative to the kickstand.
I've rooted it to remove bloatware, but don't know that there's anything that I want it do to that requires a custom ROM. Customizations, yes - but launchers, widgets and apps can do what I want.
I was in the same place with my EVO 3D. Stock was fine.
ROMs were necessary in the WinMo days (and perhaps the early Android days, though I missed those). I spent a LOT of time cooking kitchens for my WinMo phones.
There will always be people who like to cook ROMs as a hobby, but I knew that the Moto Photon would NOT be one of the target platform for them - will be mostly HTC phones, I imagine.
Well unlike my evo shift I'm happy with the phone the way it is. The evo shift was boring unless rooted and running a custom rom.
I love this phone and i'm satisfied with just root. Best phone I've ever owned. It just seems like there were a lot more people in this forum last month.
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I love this phone and i'm satisfied with just root. Best phone I've ever owned. It just seems like there were a lot more people in this forum last month.
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It was brand new then
The inferior Samsung is the new shiny.
I also spent more time here and AC a month ago, but really don't have much more to say, or problems that need solved. I'm spending my time now customizing it and try out new apps.
Enjoy it!
Love this phone but its too complicated to unlock boot loader and such so people lost interest in the forums, not the phone in my opinion. I came from the Nexus S 4G and don't see a reason to lose 4g for a rom its great as it is running launcher pro. Just my 2 cents.
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The inferior Samsung is the new shiny
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Yea I don't think the epic touch is inferior at all. The exynos kills tegra. Everyone knows that
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Photon was a great phone, its great with root alone. I now got the sgs2 and gave the MoPho to my gf. She loves it coming from an HTC Aria. I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader, I tried but it looked too risky. I was pretty much satisfied with stock and my own build prop tweaks, there was no need to unlock. I do recommend to phone to people who aren't as tech savvy for just being a good dependable fast phone.
The sgs2 is no way inferior to the photon, every day use they run about the same, the photon does have better battery life and video recording, the sgs2 has a bigger screen and an unlocked bootloader.
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Yea I don't think the epic touch is inferior at all. The exynos kills tegra. Everyone knows that
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CPU is only one component in comparing phones, and IMHO not in the top 3 criteria. Screen, battery, radio signal, construction quality, vendor support all more important than minor (in the real world) CPU differences.
I won't get into any more bashing - will just say glad you like your phone; enjoy it!
I think my Photon is the best Android phone i've ever owned and I've had a few over the past couple of months, including the SGSII. The SGSII is a great phone but just too thin for me, so when on a flat surface my manley fingers couldn't quite grasp it right and i ended up dropping it. The Photon just feels perfect, build quality is great, just ticks all the boxes for me and I'm gonna stick with it for a while
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I know it may seem to be kinda hard, but unlocking the bootloader is actually fairly easy if you follow the steps on breifmobile. I have a link I think if someone is looking to unlock the bootloader.
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I know it may seem to be kinda hard, but unlocking the bootloader is actually fairly easy if you follow the steps on breifmobile. I have a link I think if someone is looking to unlock the bootloader.
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But you lose 4G
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Same
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Phone is great out of the box, not much to complain about on forums nor are people in a rush to slap a ROM on it like they would need to so their Samsung works correctly.
I came from the tmobile vibrant. At one point I had a choice of 65 custom roms and 11 kernels. I wanted unlimited data and more minutes and sprint was the only choice. I got the epic but took it back the day this phone dropped on the market. I like htc but 3d had some drawbacks. Mainly signal quality. I would like more roms, but mainly overclock kernels. I am learning to make my own themes and that will probably satisfy me. I hope development picks up, but if it doesn't I won't be upset. This is a wonderful phone and works right out of the box. I don't get 4g on my end of town and probably never will, and I could really care less.
It's good to see people are still here and they are satisfied with their phones. This is probably the best phone Sprint has to offer right now. It sucks that it was released sandwiched between the 3vo and sgsII.
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why does no one listen to me? i said weeks ago that what we had was the best this community was gunna get, with the release of the et4g i knew this place with die down a bit.. its unfortunate but thats the way it is. perhaps the next moto phone that sprint gets (tegra 3 plz ) will get some attention, instead of sprint getting another phone months later (they did it with the nexus s 4g, photon and if the rumors are true it will happen with the next nexus)
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Haha unfortunately I get full signal in my area :/
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I have been reading the nexus forums, and I just have to LOL.
I seem to remember a ton of people saying "why buy the rezound when the 'superior' google nexus is right around the corner.
seems like they are having issues with screen banding, the phone is very slick and hard to hold. Many people are having battery life issues. The browser is hard to use, there is a volume issue that automatically turns off the volume. It gets hot while using. etc.
just goes to show that every phone has "issues", and you have to pick your poison.
im SO GLAD to be with you guys and on the rezound and when we get ICS the nexus people will be jumping ship
Thats wht they get. That phone is too big for me anyway. I got the rezound soon after release after waiting for months. Like u said pick your poison. The only issue ive had was for some reason the phone decided not to boot up n i hd to do a factory reset. But its bn ok e er since besides the usual htc incredible glitches which i am used to. The size is borderline too big for me but im loving this phone. Cant wait for ICS upgrade
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Just got my rezound yesterday, and I must say I made the right choice. Build quality is at its finest. Coming from the thunderbolt great improvement. Only thing the nexus galaxy has is ics .
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Anyone know what the timeline for the ICS update is?
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I would have gotten the nexus anyway, but I have a rezound now because I just couldn't justify spending ~$300 for a nexus on contract when I could get the Rezound for free with amazon's deal.
So far I'm happy with the Rezound, although I wish the battery was better. I'm used to my Galaxy S lasting almost 2 days.
You do realize that these issues are related to the gsm device and may not be problems on the cdma/lte version since it's different hardware.
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You do realize that these issues are related to the gsm device and may not be problems on the cdma/lte version since it's different hardware.
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sure, we will see tho ive yet to see a flawless android phone
I may have been dreaming as I was surfing the net half asleep last night right before bed, but anyway...I read that the Nexus Volume bug has been acknowledged by Google/Samsung and it is software related not hardware, an update to fix the problem will be released soon. That's the Good thing about Nexus phones, as soon as their is a problem it gets resolved fast.
Btw the volume bug is only on GSM phones in the UK using 900mhz band or something like that. Wouldn't affect Verizon CDMA version.
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sure, we will see tho ive yet to see a flawless android phone
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HTC evo 4g running aosp.
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I may have been dreaming as I was surfing the net half asleep last night right before bed, but anyway...I read that the Nexus Volume bug has been acknowledged by Google/Samsung and it is software related not hardware, an update to fix the problem will be released soon. That's the Good thing about Nexus phones, as soon as their is a problem it gets resolved fast.
Btw the volume bug is only on GSM phones in the UK using 900mhz band or something like that. Wouldn't affect Verizon CDMA version.
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From what I've read it's a hardware issue corrected by a software fix.
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Serinety said:
sure, we will see tho ive yet to see a flawless android phone
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When have you ever seen a genuinely flawless phone, period?
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When have you ever seen a genuinely flawless phone, period?
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Exactly my point. This is a "ha ha" post to the people who said the rezound was a pointless buy with the nexus coming out.
Basicly saying every aspect of the nexus was better than the rezound. And now it seems as the playing field has been leveled.
I will have no problem returning the rezound for the nexus nothing aganist this device it feels well built and a decent phone. i do not like sense and a little unsure about how the rooting process goes for htc.
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I will have no problem returning the rezound for the nexus nothing aganist this device it feels well built and a decent phone. i do not like sense and a little unsure about how the rooting process goes for htc.
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You do know that the Verizon Nexus is going to be bloated as well right? I wouldn't be surprised if they forced Google to lock the bootloader too. It's pretty easy to root HTC phones once S-Off has been achieved. S-off has been achieved apparently, now we're just waiting for proof.
I am on the fence with what to do. The rezound has surprised me and is better than I thought it would be. Will have to see the nexus first. It will probably have better dev support due to the gsm version. And official ROM updates should be more timely than HTC is.
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I am on the fence with what to do. The rezound has surprised me and is better than I thought it would be. Will have to see the nexus first. It will probably have better dev support due to the gsm version. And official ROM updates should be more timely than HTC is.
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The gsm version likely won't impact the dev work for our version. It never really did for the galaxy s anyway.
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Why would anyone be happy that someone else is having problems with the device they bought? They're ****ing phones. Everyone should try to be a big ol' family.
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Why would anyone be happy that someone else is having problems with the device they bought? They're ****ing phones. Everyone should try to be a big ol' family.
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Seriously. I have a problem with Apple mostly because of the machead fanboys attitudes and now I get an Android phone and see this fanboy **** over different android phones. Seems silly and stupid to me. Everyone has their own needs and preferences. Who ****ing cares? Just worry about your own phone. If we all posted what cars we drive would people act the same way?
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Why would anyone be happy that someone else is having problems with the device they bought? They're ****ing phones. Everyone should try to be a big ol' family.
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Cause we must destory the Nexus trolls.
The Nexus is the iPhail of the Android world, and all of the unwarranted hype surrounding it is proof.
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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jsalazarcervantes said:
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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Even if HTC were to discontinue the phone today it's still a 1.5ghz dual core 4G phone. The SGS2 is pretty much identical in specs. If the phones are so similar and the Amaze is no longer in production but the SGS2 is, then is the Amze "obsolete?" Your definition of obsolete must be different than mine.
+1. ^^^
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im sorry, i used a poor choice of words. i was in a hurry when i wrote this. By obsolete i meant that htc will not be supporting us and will stop sellin the phone.
With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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I agree. You have a two year contract when you purchase a phone with a discount. Who here thinks that T-Mobile shouldn't start offering new phones before your two year contract expires? Seriously! The phone has been out for what... three, four months now? I would say that's pretty good actually. Don't worry about the phone itself though. You still have a 1 year warranty which will still be honored should you require service. It's still a powerhouse of a phone and we're expecting an update here very soon. So... what's the problem? You guys are acting like it's the damn G1.
You know to be honest I was expecting a better phone to come out about a month after ours did. I'm surprised that it didn't. But I'm saying this to people that are suprised that in this day and technological age your phone is old and outdated before you can manage to buy accessories for it. Just look at it this way... iphone fans are constantly being screwed by Apple and their yearly releases! You wait in line overnight to buy the new iphone 4GS or whatever and nine months later Apple teases you with the new iphone 4GS2 for a super low price of $600 because you're still on contract. Else they can wait for another year for the release of the iphone 5 or whatever. It's a sales gimmick and that's all there is to it. Yet you guys are surpised to see this with HTC? Naive I think.
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Samsung devices don't have to be worried about a locked bootloader either.
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Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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i dont see any progress on the sgs2 tmo version im further then them
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Just a phone?? Watcha you mouth!
And.....you managed to get that damn song stuck in my head.
Yes its not the end of the world its just HTC Saying ok we aren't making the phone anymore tmobile n HTC aren't going to blow u off if u have a issue with it.
They are not going to make the phone anymore because of what's on the horizon. I say in about a month or two we will see a new HTC tmobile phone.
with ICS "wink"
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I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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samsung has horrible support for their phones, except for ones running vanilla android, they are incredibly slow when it comes to pushing out os updates, im almost certain htc will give us a stable ics before samsung does with the sgs2
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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It might be "just a phone" but I paid a large chunk of cash for my phone and I don't like getting screwed over by Google.......not to mention Apple's bait & switch marketing.
Smartphones "smart" once you find out your phone will be semi-obsolete as is the case here with Google trying to tell software & hardware developers what to do.
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All of this is true but don't you all feel that the htc amaze is a bad phone? You can't have a case because you lose WiFi signal, you have to put electrical tape on the back of the phone to prevent the flash from messing up your pictures at night, the haptic key light bleeds in the screen, the faceplate on the back creaks really loud when putting pressure. I did not pay over 600 for a phone to have so many problems.
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T-mo news did post an article stating that the amaze 4g is reaching "end-of-life" and will he discontinued soon. This may lower our chance of getting more dev support, but let's be thankful for who we do have which is some great developers like xboarder, faux, and now nrg... Just have patience, soom good stuff is going to be coming to us in the near future, we just need to wait. No one has a perfectly running ICS with no bugs we arent far behind guys we will have what we want soon
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I do not see why it is such a big deal they won't be producing htc amaze anymore(if that is true). anyway even the htc ville we are expecting to come out in march or the samsung bliss, they have nothing special, same dual core cpu, same speed + the camera that the amaze has is one of the best in the market. So I find all this "worried about my amaze" a little too exaggerated. and yes it is just a phone, if you are concerned just go sell it back and buy a new one when it comes out. hope your worries about the htc amaze do not keep you from living a normal life...extra stress is never good
I love my Amaze. I knew about the "flaws" before I bought it. To my amazement, it's better than I thought and read about. I fortunately do not have the creaking back cover(there's a fix), Wi-Fi range is awesome even with a case, GPS locks in seconds even inside the house, battery life last all day, awesome ROMs available (thank you devs, you know who you are, lol) the list goes on. My 0.02
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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fuego77 said:
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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what case do you have?
So I just saw this:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...-ice-cream-sandwich-upcoming-device-launches/
Looks like it will be pushed back till june.
That makes no sense since this seems to be works so well.
I wonder if HTC leaked that purposely to test people or if it will change again.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks again to the leaker at tmo.
Thank you for choosing to force integrity down the throat of the sleazbags in the marketing department...
Thank you for pulling out the rug from under the self aggrandising pompus fool executives who think that they can twist the arm of their elite level customers..
To the the executives that may be reading this.. Above is the list of people to fire.. Unceremoniously and with a grand parade, wander them around the office as an example of douchebags using and idea older than moses and calling it innovative.. Rather than the insult to customers it truly is
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I am pretty sure there is going to be improvements on it by June. Perhaps sense 4.0?
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I am pretty sure there is going to be improvements on it by June. Perhaps sense 4.0?
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Doubt it, but there will be bug fixes and hopefully a new radio. Besides, we wont have to wait till June anyways to get the leak of the approved ota
I'm seriously switching to Samsung on my next phone.
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rubyman94 said:
I'm seriously switching to Samsung on my next phone.
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Lol go check if the t989 galaxy s 2 has an ICS leak.
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ebatr8 said:
Lol go check if the t989 galaxy s 2 has an ICS leak.
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It does.
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It does.
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It does not, the ics available for the t989 is from a leak from the skyrocket. Due to that there was issues with rotation which were fixed but there is still missing features like wifi calling, and a kernel to develop cm9 etc from that.
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I asked HTC, they told me....
We are working closely with our carrier partners to nail down update schedules for our smartphones and will have more to share very soon. For all of our latest ICS news stay tuned to our blog: http://bit.ly/yTJiXX
Not date yet. We'll let you know if we learn more.
I said it in another thread and I'll say it again. I have a feeling T-Mobile is holding off on the update so the One S can have the spotlight for another month. They probably figured that people would buy it since Ice Cream Sandwich is a big selling point.
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prueba01 said:
I asked HTC, they told me....
We are working closely with our carrier partners to nail down update schedules for our smartphones and will have more to share very soon. For all of our latest ICS news stay tuned to our blog: http://bit.ly/yTJiXX
Not date yet. We'll let you know if we learn more.
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I said it in another thread and I'll say it again. I have a feeling T-Mobile is holding off on the update so the One S can have the spotlight for another month. They probably figured that people would buy it since Ice Cream Sandwich is a big selling point.
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These two tie in together. HTC wants to nail down an update schedule that the One S will have ICS for a while, gathering in sales, while the other phones will have to wait. Also, T-Mobile stores list our phone as 1.5 ghz dual-core, they don't really specify that it's produced by Snapdragon or that it is an S3. Clearly, it would look bad that the One S and the Amaze have the same specs in a simpler manner, without going into specifics.
Some of you folks act like your phone is broke or completely ancient because it isn't rocking the current OS.
There is a leak for ICS, so what is the problem? If you want it so bad, download it and be on your merrily happy way. If not, go spend monies you probably don't have on a device that runs on it. Complaining over and over on something you can't control is beyond rhetorical.
Not like T-Mobile has ever been fast with the updates. This is nothing new......be glad if it comes out in June.
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Also to note, you people actually think majority of users pay attention to specs that much? Again I say, we are such a small % over the grand scheme of things. People that are due for contracts will get whatever the new hotness is. Period
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Also to note, you people actually think majority of users pay attention to specs that much? Again I say, we are such a small % over the grand scheme of things. People that are due for contracts will get whatever the new hotness is. Period
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I agree just look around your own family. How many of them just want something pretty that's makes calls not everyone cares about all the bells and whistles.
I do though so I took the risk and got the update already and lovin it.
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My Amaze (bought in December) has multiple issues that have not been resolved on three separate handsets, and half a dozen factory resets. I'm not "whining" about not getting ICS sooner, I'm whining about not getting FIXES after way too long a wait.
The last word I've heard was, "we're working on a fix," "HTC is aware of the problem," while I continue to wait, and wait, and wait. Like the poor refugees in CASABLANCA
I'm willing to wait longer for solid fixes, and (crosses fingers) a replacement of Sense 3.0 with the much-improved 4.0. Frankly, I've gotten tired of factory resets and handset replacements that flush my progress and scores from games that I've paid for. It's not a requirement that my games are intact on a phone, but jeez, it got old after 12 weeks of ownership of this top-tier phone to be told, "don't install any apps, just use the phone as shipped."
I just feel that I've been made to wait through serial postponements while HTC and T-Mobile trumpet a newer, slightly better line of phones. Clearly, people who've already bought an HTC don't get as much respect or thought than the new customers out there. S'okay, if the ICS update arrives and doesn't fix the problems, I'll know what to do. Root, flash, or flip and get another brand. T'is a pity that modern manufacturers would rather disappoint their established customers while trying to attract new customers. It's a model that has destroyed many companies in the past.
pushed back? they said a date? I had the gs2 and I love the amaze wayyyy more. Sense>touchwiz by millions
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
pushed back? they said a date? I had the gs2 and I love the amaze wayyyy more. Sense>touchwiz by millions
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Try clicking the link in the first post.
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Also to note, you people actually think majority of users pay attention to specs that much? Again I say, we are such a small % over the grand scheme of things. People that are due for contracts will get whatever the new hotness is. Period
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Exactly what I am trying to say, People who compare specs slightly, will notice that the Amaze and One S are very similar, and will buy the least expensive Amaze
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pushed back? they said a date? I had the gs2 and I love the amaze wayyyy more. Sense>touchwiz by millions
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ICS AOSP > Sense > touchwhiz
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M9x3mos said:
So I just saw this:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...-ice-cream-sandwich-upcoming-device-launches/
Looks like it will be pushed back till june.
That makes no sense since this seems to be works so well.
I wonder if HTC leaked that purposely to test people or if it will change again.
What are your thoughts?
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ICS leak is NOT running so well....
My radio signals are fluctuating ..... woke up yesterday and my service said 4g with full bars.... but all the apps I tried to run specially facebook told me theres a network connection error.....
my wifi doesn't work.....