[Q] HOX+ Temperature and Lag questions - HTC One X+

Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!

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Happy one x+ owner since february (would have bought the One but that 32gb think is definitely a no go, and i never bought anything but htc since 2007, but had the opportunity to play around with loads of gs2 and 3s...)
Enough with the intro, in everyday use its perfect, 1gig of ram is plenty for normal use, itll always sit between 680 and 870 with the stock rom. If you use it heavily, youll get no more lag than with any other android phone with 1gig of ram (example, try and launch skype, youtube, real racing, a heavy webpage and switch between them a lot and real quick with a gs3, same result.. worst case scenario, the phone will not respond for 20secs max and happens to me 1-2times/month tops).
Heats a lot, theres no denying that, while on heavy games (again, real racing, shadowgun, nfs, asphalt and drains battery pretty quick with those apps).
On a gps app (tomtom, navigon,...) It also heats a lot but then, the problem is that it also will stop charging (ex, with a car kit-charger) because of high voltage and will wait until its cooled down to go further with charging.
It feels just a tiny bit less snappier than a gs3 but nothing really noticeable.
Again, 64gb it something to own, all my music (10gigs) my game roms (15 gigs) and my apps and games (25gigs) still allow me some room to take loads pf pics and shoot videos.
Im on stock 4.1.2, still havent felt the need to flash anything on it and reports say that ot feels even snappier with sense 5, which appearently will use 100mb of ram less, says another xda fellow on the update post.
I have a german phone in belgium (same region) so i can update as soon as i get my update.
One tip though, since we cant remove the battery, i have planned on killing it to send it sometime close the the end of my warranty period for htc to replace it.
Last think i really appreciate, is that the case of this phone os made of rubber, which makes it very resistant to dropping and shocks (already fell 5times on concrete and the screen is intact - lucky me maybe?)
Sorry for the long post, i hope i could help bring the light on your interrogations.
Got mine brand new on ebay for 440€ btw.
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Thanx a lot for the detailed review mate .. I couldn't hope for anything better !! I guess if those things don't bother you that much .. then they shouldn't bother me either !!
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Hiken_Ace said:
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
Not during normal use. The only time I've seen it lag is when an app is misbehaving, which doesn't happen often
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
It does get pretty toasty. I hit the thermal cut-off (where the phone turns off on its own) once. If you see the green/red light flashing, stop doing what it is that you're doing and let it cool down.
OR you can download SU Root Tools from the market (it's free) and set a CPU temp status in the notification bar so you know what it's at. You can also have it sound an alarm when it goes above a certain temp. (It repeats "CPU temperature hot" over and over till it goes below the threshold you set)
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
Not in my opinion.
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
No. You should send me the money and I'll buy another one. :highfive: lol
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
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ridethisbike said:
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Thank u sir !! Much appreciated .. this overheating thingy .. it can get pretty nasty I see .. that's bad :/ well i don't play games that much .. not the heavy ones atleast .. anyway thanx again mate !
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No problem. Not sure when the flashing warning lights come on, but I have the cpu temp in the notification bar like I said and the alarm set to 60. Anything over that, IMO, is too much.
And honestly, you'll feel it. You can feel it on the back and on the screen itself (at the top half).

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Wahhh 60 ? The highest battery temp i hv got so far is 45.
I seldom play heavy games and i use my hox+ for whatsapping and chatting, listening to music and some internet browsing only, may sometimes play casual games, so the phone is really snappy on me.
In my opinion it really depends on ur usage, if u take photos/listen to music a lot HOX+ is definitely ur choice, but if u r going to flash ROMs/ doing a lot of multitasking maybe Nexus 4 suits u better
PS I'm on stock 4.1 rom, Sense 5 update hvnt reached my CID_622 yet
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Hiken_Ace said:
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
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HTC One X+ is a great phone! Only if you want to play heavy demanding games, it maybe isn't the phone you're looking for. Don't get me wrong, performance of tegra 3 SoC is really good, but it is not the best for games anymore. But as far as i found our, the (most of times) small lags are related to GPU performance. And the "overheating problem" only occurs when playing really hardware demanding games.
But if gaming is only aminor matter to you, i think it is still a good choice! It has everything you need: more than enough cpu power for daily tasks, 64GB of memory and 1GB of ram, which is also enough for everything you could normally do.
And Thanks to the devs here there is still room for improvements, if you like to flash custom kernels and roms!

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I use mine for gps a lot to track my runs with Endomondo and I've never had any heat from my HOX+, with some games yeah it gets hot but I'm in Vietnam so everything gets hot here anyway. Ive never had any freezes or shut downs due to heat. On average I get 2 days on the battery with light gaming, alot of sms, viber, Facebook and some browsing when I'm outside along with music. Overall I'm quite happy with this phone.
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Thanx a lot everybody .... Ur feedback was really helpful ! I guess I'm buying the phone !!
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Actually heating has pretty much been fixed due to undervolting, cpu quiet governor an gpu decoupling, the gpu can run at full speed and the cpu can run at a lower frequency and voltage with more cores active. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.

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ryanjsoo said:
Actually heating has pretty much been fixed due to undervolting, cpu quiet governor an gpu decoupling, the gpu can run at full speed and the cpu can run at a lower frequency and voltage with more cores active. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
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Thanx a lot bro !! U just made my day with these news !! I'm definitely buying it
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Hiken_Ace said:
Thanx a lot bro !! U just made my day with these news !! I'm definitely buying it
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You should also buy it because Justin Bieber approves of this phone :thumbup:

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ryanjsoo said:
. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
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True story ( the one x plus became the ( ! Iron man plus ! :victory: )

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JustinBieber said:
You should also buy it because Justin Bieber approves of this phone :thumbup:
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Why .. why why ????
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hi
i have my hox+ for 1yr and i haven't experience any problem it does get hot when the cpu is at full capacity but is not a problem for me i get 1 1/2 to 2 days of moderate use.this is my gps my router my laptop my media player and it have never let me down so this is a phone that you will not regret buying trust me on this one. my wife have the gs3 and my brother in law have the iphone 5 and my phone is kicking ass......

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The device does not lack ram. End of the day it has double the min requirements to run windows 7.....
Also on overheating .... It's a myth... Yeah the device does get hot. But what do you expect? When you put a fairly powerful quad core soc in a device with no cooling and little ventilation. It's gunna get hot. But all the overheating hype is cause by people who don't actually know what safe temps are. They feel the outside of there case get hot and start to worry, but they don't get that the phone has to dissipate heat some how.....
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AndroHero said:
The device does not lack ram. End of the day it has double the min requirements to run windows 7.....
Also on overheating .... It's a myth... Yeah the device does get hot. But what do you expect? When you put a fairly powerful quad core soc in a device with no cooling and little ventilation. It's gunna get hot. But all the overheating hype is cause by people who don't actually know what safe temps are. They feel the outside of there case get hot and start to worry, but they don't get that the phone has to dissipate heat some how.....
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Which temperatures are considered as overheating?
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jizang said:
Which temperatures are considered as overheating?
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The cpu will throttle down before reaching unhealthy temperatures (I don't know the exact value). The only critical problem is the battery, which shouldn't be exposed to too high temperatures over longer periods of time.
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but if you are a heavy user like me, you will have to brought a charger with you... and charge it twice a day