DIY Qi Wireless Charging Case - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

I ordered mine this morning!! YAY
The first thing I'm going to do is work on plans for doing a Qi Wireless charging case. I figured I would use a thick piece of wood (or 3D printed piece of plastic ) as the "case" with a cut out for the Qi parts salvaged from something found on eBay or Amazon (from a iPhone charge case etc) and connect it all via the magnetic charge port. What I was hoping to figure out is if anyone knows the positive or negative sites on the magnetic charge connector?? Or does it even matter?
I know this project will add some bulk to the already large device, but I really would like wireless charging as I have fallen in love with it!!
Thanks in advance!
David

One thing to factor in mind is the slow charging rates with wireless charging.
With the quick charge function on the S800, you can probably go from 0-100 in 2hours. Whereas with wireless charging it could take 8+ hours. Great if you just want to leave it on your desk at work I guess, but from personal experience with modding the note 2 to be wireless charging compatible, it was rarely a practical as I always used the cable > wireless.

liqn7 said:
One thing to factor in mind is the slow charging rates with wireless charging.
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I pretty much use wireless charging exclusively with my Nexus 4 and I have never had a problem with it.
Thanks for the reply though!!
David

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[Q] Wireless chargers that work for the 920

One of the things I was really excited about with the Lumia 920 was the built in wireless charging feature. Since the Nokia charging plate was selling for about 70 bucks (ouch) I decided to see what alternatives were available. I've tried two different wireless chargers so far with mixed results:
LG Electronics WCP-700 - This charger works great and I was able to snag it from amazon for 35 bucks shipped. If you want wireless charging but don't want to pay 70 bucks for one charger, then I highly suggest this model. You can get 2 for the price of one Nokia Charger.
Powermat 2x - I was hoping the community could give me some advice on the powermat. Naturally if you plug the powercube into the phone, it will charge just fine. BUT I noticed that if you put a charging plate on the charger and then put the 920 on top of it, the 920 will begin to go into charging mode, although when i tried doing that, it didn't really seem to be charging at any noticeable rate( I may have been taking the phone off the charger too frequently though). Does anyone know exactly what voltage and amperage the powermat wirelessly charges at? My concern is that the volts or amps will be off and damage could be done to the battery in my lumia 920. Any thoughts?
Good questions! I was wondering the same thing about the different mats out there.
What about the Energizer one?
Also, the LG one apparently beeps a lot...does it do so with the Nokia? When it finishes charging it turns off and lets the phone run off battery for a bit, then turns back on to top it off again, causing it to beep each time it turns on throughout the night. Have you noticed this?
LudoGris said:
Good questions! I was wondering the same thing about the different mats out there.
What about the Energizer one?
Also, the LG one apparently beeps a lot...does it do so with the Nokia? When it finishes charging it turns off and lets the phone run off battery for a bit, then turns back on to top it off again, causing it to beep each time it turns on throughout the night. Have you noticed this?
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From what I've read, the Energizer QI chargers will work fine with the 920, I just didn't get one since the LG model was a bit cheaper. The LG one does beep, although I haven't found it to be too much of an issue. When I place the phone on the charger, the LG mat will beep and show the green charging icon, and my phone will make the connection noise. I also think the mat will beep occasionally when the phone is charged, since it lets the battery drain a bit, then starts charging again, although last night it didn't wake me up at all while I slept. You could probably remove the speaker from the LG pad fairly easily, although from my experience, it's not bothersome enough to be worth the trouble.
beebop483 said:
One of the things I was really excited about with the Lumia 920 was the built in wireless charging feature. Since the Nokia charging plate was selling for about 70 bucks (ouch) I decided to see what alternatives were available. I've tried two different wireless chargers so far with mixed results:
LG Electronics WCP-700 - This charger works great and I was able to snag it from amazon for 35 bucks shipped. If you want wireless charging but don't want to pay 70 bucks for one charger, then I highly suggest this model. You can get 2 for the price of one Nokia Charger.
Powermat 2x - I was hoping the community could give me some advice on the powermat. Naturally if you plug the powercube into the phone, it will charge just fine. BUT I noticed that if you put a charging plate on the charger and then put the 920 on top of it, the 920 will begin to go into charging mode, although when i tried doing that, it didn't really seem to be charging at any noticeable rate( I may have been taking the phone off the charger too frequently though). Does anyone know exactly what voltage and amperage the powermat wirelessly charges at? My concern is that the volts or amps will be off and damage could be done to the battery in my lumia 920. Any thoughts?
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Doesn't the PowerMat use a different wireless charging standard? I thought I read somewhere it wasn't the QI standard.
PowerMat is its own standard.
Not sure where you are, but the plate is $50 and the stand is $70 here.
Might want to try mail-order?
As for other plates, I have a few lying around, but I don't want to risk my phone trying them without knowing. I have 2 plates and a stand, so I am pretty covered.
Philips DLP7210B/10 also works with the Lumia 920.
I ordered a Palm Touchstone off Amazon for $6 and free shipping. I'll know in a few days when it gets here if it works or not, but I read somewhere that it should.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the Touchstone does not work. It makes the charging notification sound, but the battery still drains; it doesn't charge at all.
I have the Maxell Airvolt QI charger. It works but the phone seems to get warm unlike the Fatboy charger I use at night.
jhoff80 said:
Sorry to disappoint you, but the Touchstone does not work. It makes the charging notification sound, but the battery still drains; it doesn't charge at all.
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Doh!
I really hope someone makes a 12v charging pad to keep in your car. Plug into the cig lighter and lay the phone on the "pad" somewhere in the car. I know the new dodge cars have it as an option now.
john94si said:
I really hope someone makes a 12v charging pad to keep in your car. Plug into the cig lighter and lay the phone on the "pad" somewhere in the car. I know the new dodge cars have it as an option now.
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There's no reason why a 12v adaptor of sufficient ampage wouldn't work. Just match up the plug and polarity to the DC adaptor that comes with the charging pad.
But obviously a QI charger is not designed for use in a car. QI only recently release their guidelines:
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium....ermarket-chargers-v-10.pdf?force-download=yes
It seems there are two current wireless charging standards: QI and PMA
Powermat are PMA, and this is a copyrighted licensed standard, i.e., Powermat will get revenue/license on each device. There is a limited trial in Starbucks.
QI is open, and I think a "free" standard. They have public charging spots in Japan, and Japanese handsets are predominantly QI
This is all just what I've recently read, so I'm not an expert or utterly certain it is correct, but it does seem that Nokia 920's are to the QI standard, and so any QI charging plate should work...?
gilesjuk said:
There's no reason why a 12v adaptor of sufficient ampage wouldn't work. Just match up the plug and polarity to the DC adaptor that comes with the charging pad.
But obviously a QI charger is not designed for use in a car. QI only recently release their guidelines:
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I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
SuperSport said:
I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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Make sure you post pictures when you do this.
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SuperSport said:
I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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Ooooo, my Edge has a little 'shelf' under the console that has a ribbed rubber bottom. And it has a 12v plug right beside it. I bet my husband (the engineer) might be able to wire up a charging plate. He would need to shorten the cord so it wouldn't flop around. But he's very good at that sort of thing.
This is a great idea! He works overseas but I think I have a new 'honey-do' for him on his next R&R. Thanks!
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Any thoughts?
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Anything that is a Qi charger should work, it's a standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)
I have an Everyready Qi charger, the 920 and it are happy as clams together.
schettj said:
Anything that is a Qi charger should work, it's a standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)
I have an Everyready Qi charger, the 920 and it are happy as clams together.
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Nice! I'll get one too!
tabletop charging
I personally think it would be awesome to be able to integrate QI wireless charging into a tabletop. think about it, when you sit down at a table for dinner, you usually take your phone out of your pocket, right? what if you could charge it while you eat? why doesn't starbucks do this?:highfive:

Duracell Powermat review for the PadFone X

This is the best mat you can find right now.
The Powermat by Duracell works well and charges just as fast as the USB charger or the tablet dock . I picked one up on amazon brand new for about $18 ( plenty still around
I picked up the 4s and portable charger bundle for a steal. This is using the standard backplate that came with the phone. Many cell phone reps will tell you the phone doesn't come standard with wireless charging and try to sell you the folio as a "wireless charging bundle" for $70,don't be fooled!.
Alignment is good, natively the Duracell branded cases and portable charger have a magnetic pull to the phone to keep it in place. When placing the PadFone on the plate there is no magnetic pull. Make sure you lay evenly. The wireless charger will make a beep to let you know it has a handshake with the device.
Works flawless so far, no complaints.
Update #1 Turns out the Padfone X is only PMA compliant, This wireless charger is apparently one of the only ones available. There are different styles of powermat available. But no Qi compliance.
Update #2 This kit also came with the iPhone 4/4s adapter and a PowerBar, the power back can be attached to either a Padfone Tablet station or the Asus Bluetooth Padfone keyboard to provide "passthrough" charge.
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Thanks for posting this review! I just ordered the exact same thing from Amazon yesterday and I wasn't sure if it was going to work. I was completely skeptical since just the Powermat is normally $50 through at&t.
Grab one at that price while you still can, less than $20 got me this whole set
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Grab one at that price while you still can, less than $20 got me this whole set
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Thanks for the heads up. Just picked up my new padfone X tonight after my beloved skyrocket fell and broke the screen. The rep thought the same thing about the wireless charging that I needed a wireless case. I asked to test out the 50 dollar duracell charging pad and sure enough "beep" and I was charging with just the phone out of the box. Nice find. This is a win win cause I also have an iphone 4s for my afterhours phone support for my job. Utter win here.
Thanks again.
:victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::good:
Powermat charges fast but alignment is finicky
I also bought the iphone 4 powermat bundle from Amazon. I do like the audible and visual confirmation you get when it starts charging the device. Also it beeps when the device is fully charged. But overall you need to place the phone just right on the pad otherwise it beeps on and off and you end up taking extra time just to make sure it's charging. I owned a Nexus 5 before my Padfone and QI charging is a lot better you just drop the phone on the pad and it charges no problem never had to adjust the phone for it to charge.
But I waited forever for the Padfone to hit the US, so I can live with the charging issue.
After a while you figure out the sweet spot for charging hence the phone doesn't magnetically lock to the powermat, but when you connect, you'll have a full charge in no time
I also purchased the Duracell Powermat and it charges the phone fine, however one problem I have is that it seems to Overcharge the phone. I know this because of two things
1. "Battery Doctor" App reports that the phone had been overcharged
2. Phone is very warm/borderline hot to touch when I pull it off the charger in the morning
Has anyone else experienced this problem? I am concerned because overheating shortens the battery life of these phones so I want to prevent that. this does not happen when I charge via USB.
Battery doctor app is not a good representation for phones that support qi or pma charging. The phone will get warm, but not alarmingly warm. The science of contactless charging.
These are still available for under $20 with free shipping, looks like. A great buy for sure.
I received mine before I ever even got my PadFone X. With the issues arising theoretically being theoretically linked to charging the phone and station together for long periods, this frees up the included charger to charge the station by itself.
Can't thank the OP enough for passing on this find!
Just my two cents, but....
8125Omnimax said:
Update #1 Turns out the Padfone X is only PMA compliant, This wireless charger is apparently one of the only ones available. There are different styles of powermat available. But no Qi compliance.
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I have an old Samsung Qi wireless charging pad, and my Padfone S works with it. I will admit, the powermat charger is much faster - but Padfone S does support Qi chargering pads. Not sure about Padfone X.
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The phone will get warm, but not alarmingly warm. The science of contactless charging.
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I'm not noticing this issue with my Padfone S. In fact, my old Samsung phone (Qi standard) did get warm, but Padfone S doesn't.
For that matter, my Padfone S doesn't heat up when I have it tethering a wifi data connection to my laptop or other portable devices. I've only felt my Padfone S heat up on 2 occasions - both of which I was in a dead zone and the phone was powering up the antenna to try to get a signal.

Question about the wireless charging pad?

Hey guys! Bought the official samsung charging pad today, for novelty factor more so then anything else if im honest! It was €55 to buy online here in Ireland (which is crazy money) but i got it along with a case for only €40 as part of a deal so i thought why the hell not. It came without a cable so naturally i assume i must use the fast charge cable with it? Here are a few questions i have.........
If using the fast charging cable with it , does that mean i will be getting fast charging capabilities from it? (iam assuming not)
If its generally not a good idea to use fast charge plugged in over night then does this apply to the wireless pad in conjunction with the fast charger?
And lastly. Can i run the cable from the usb port on my computer or does it have to be plugged in to a socket when using the wireless pad? The answers may seem obvious but just asking none the less! Not taking any chances with this baby ha
I have four of them. Two of the small rectangular ones from last year, and two of the newer round ones from this year, so I'll take a stab at your questions.
If using the fast charging cable with it , does that mean i will be getting fast charging capabilities from it? (iam assuming not)
I have not seen, nor did I expect to see, any difference using a fast-charger vs. standard. As such, I only use standard charger adapters for wireless duty.
If its generally not a good idea to use fast charge plugged in over night then does this apply to the wireless pad in conjunction with the fast charger?
My S6 Edge stops charging while on either version of the wireless charging pad, once it reaches 100%. The light on the (newer, round) pad goes from blue to green once it has reached this point.
And lastly. Can i run the cable from the usb port on my computer or does it have to be plugged in to a socket when using the wireless pad? The answers may seem obvious but just asking none the less! Not taking any chances with this baby ha
Unless your PC can source 2A from the USB port, then, no, you cannot use your PC USB port to power the wireless charging pad.
Any idea where i could get a longer geniune samsung charging cable so? I bought the wireless pad for use at a desk but the cable on the fast charger is too small to reach from the socket to the desk! I would need the cable to be at least another foot or two longer
Questions belong in Q&A, not General.
Thank you.
I have a question I'd like to add!
I've never used wireless charging before, can you use it on the s6 edge with a case on the phone? Does this impede the wireless charging? Thanks!
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I have a question I'd like to add!
I've never used wireless charging before, can you use it on the s6 edge with a case on the phone? Does this impede the wireless charging? Thanks!
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Impede? Yes.
Any distance between the surface of the charging-pad and the back of your phone will impact the wireless inductive charging. The less, the better.
Also, obviously, any case that includes conductive materials will be a non-starter.
That said, my Speck case and my wife's (brand unknown at this moment) case work satisfactorily with both the Samsung round and rectangular charging pads. I have read that there are people that have had poor wireless charging experiences with some (probably thicker, more rugged) cases.
Searching should find the specifics.

S8+: Does it matter what brand you use for a WIRELESS CHARGER?

Should I use the one by Samsung so as not to degrade the battery?
or it doesn't matter at all?
What brands would you recommend?
It doesn't matter. I use 2 official wireless chargers and one 3rd party pleeson brand.
Not one difference.
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I don't know, after the latest system update on verizon my 3rd party wireless charger stopped working. Only charges about 20% then stops.
Shouldn't be. But I'm waiting for the new convertible one to be on sale.
No problem with my choetech stand fast wireless charger.
The S8 supports most wireless chargers, but it's best to make sure the charger you pick was made for at least the S7 if you want to get the wireless fast charge function.
The transmitter for the wireless charger also needs to line up with the right spot on your phone or it might not make a proper connection. I had this issue with my S6 where the spot on the phone was lower than the charger, so I had to put something below the phone to line it up with the charger.
Just saw this fast wireless charger deals on Slickdeals! Hope useful for you: https://slickdeals.net/f/10178316-choetech-qi-wireless-charging-stand-for-galaxy-note-5-s8-s7-s6-edge-and-more-16-ac-fsss?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
I snagged the official 2017 wireless charger for a steal at best buy. I showed them an online add from cdw and they took it!!! Only cause it was the last one in stock and they wanted to slang it quick. Lady at the register was surprised I got the deal.
Bought a Tronsmart Chocolate Bar charger. Works just fine, though I plan to move the charger circuit (replacing the microUSB port with a soldered USB cable or even a QC3.0 power brick) into a 3D printed phone stand.
I have a normal diy wireless charging coil. It heard up more than it charges.
I bought a Black Web wireless charger from Walmart originally as a temporary charger until we got in the Samsung one. Honestly not going to bother. It works well enough, no heat and holds the phone at 100% once charged.
I looked around on Amazon and it seems to be identical to several they sell, just different branding.
I'm content at the moment, was only $20.
My Nexus 6 charger worked only at normal speeds. I like the magnet in it so ordered magnets to attempt to modify the Blackweb charger. They aren't necessarily needed, just something I want to attempt.

Review of CHOETECH Fast Wireless Car Charger Mount Works with Galaxy S8 and many more

I've just bought a wireless car charger cradle and thought I'd share my experience with everyone here.
I'm in and out of a van at work so was looking for something that was quick and easy to place my phone in and easy to quickly remove when needed. I know wireless charging is never going to be as quick as wired but with the wear and tear of plugging and unplugging my device all day I thought wireless charging was a good idea.
I've bought alot of CHOETECH products before and always found them to be good quality, I've been using the same USB c cable made by them since the days of my Nexus 6p. The quality of this charging cradle is certainly just as good. The suction to the windscreen is very strong, the mechanism that grips the phone is very strong and easily adjustable and there is a small led light on the side so that you know it's working.
In the box you also get a spare usb a to usb c cable all's that is needed is a quick charge power supply.
My phone charges quickly when in the holder and even charges while navigating using maps. I would definitely recommend it to anyone interested in a wireless car charger.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075M6NMY7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_aJPlBbW8AWM8C
faybarn said:
I've just bought a wireless car charger cradle and thought I'd share my experience with everyone here.
I'm in and out of a van at work so was looking for something that was quick and easy to place my phone in and easy to quickly remove when needed. I know wireless charging is never going to be as quick as wired but with the wear and tear of plugging and unplugging my device all day I thought wireless charging was a good idea.
I've bought alot of CHOETECH products before and always found them to be good quality, I've been using the same USB c cable made by them since the days of my Nexus 6p. The quality of this charging cradle is certainly just as good. The suction to the windscreen is very strong, the mechanism that grips the phone is very strong and easily adjustable and there is a small led light on the side so that you know it's working.
In the box you also get a spare usb a to usb c cable all's that is needed is a quick charge power supply.
My phone charges quickly when in the holder and even charges while navigating using maps. I would definitely recommend it to anyone interested in a wireless car charger.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075M6NMY7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_aJPlBbW8AWM8C
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Thanks bro, really useful post. I was looking for something like this too.
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No worries, I think I'm going to get a wireless desk charger for overnight charging next so will write a review of that soon.
I've recently done a tempered glass screen protector install after reading a post on here, I think sharing things that work well and may benefit others is always worthwhile
faybarn said:
No worries, I think I'm going to get a wireless desk charger for overnight charging next so will write a review of that soon.
I've recently done a tempered glass screen protector install after reading a post on here, I think sharing things that work well and may benefit others is always worthwhile
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Well i don't recommend overnight charging with wireless charge because they don't totally stop when it reaches 100% so that means you will have like ten times more battery power loss in time than cable charge.
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No worries, I think I'm going to get a wireless desk charger for overnight charging next so will write a review of that soon.
I've recently done a tempered glass screen protector install after reading a post on here, I think sharing things that work well and may benefit others is always worthwhile
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I got one of the. CHoetech 6 port chargers. And it it absolutely wonderful :good::good::silly: I will second this company with great products. And quality.
I have a Choetech wireless charger, all good but no fast charge.. To stay at the desk when using whatsapp video call is good
No heat on the phone and changer ... always on plugged in pc.

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