Is charging time really slow for the Xperia Ultra?
Mine charges about 35% per hour.
It takes 3 hours to fully charge my phone. Coming from a Samsung Note 2 which charges completely in 1.5 hours, I find this really slow.
Charge current 1Ah is normal.
jourdy said:
Is charging time really slow for the Xperia Ultra?
Mine charges about 35% per hour.
It takes 3 hours to fully charge my phone. Coming from a Samsung Note 2 which charges completely in 1.5 hours, I find this really slow.
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Try charging in Airplane Mode.
Well, there's two sides of fast charging.
One side, you need little time to charge (of course lol)
On the other side, the faster the charge (1,5 hour of full charge on lithiums is VERY fast) the more strains the battery experience in a charge cycle, hence shorter battery life. Since XZU battery is non removable, let's assume that sony play it safe..
Oh and CMIIW the charger for note 2 is rated at 2A DC output right (or was it the S4? I forgot)? That's higher than XZU's 1.5A DC output charger (CMIIW, haven't received my XZU yet).. So 1.5A DC to fill a 3Ah battery is about 2.5 hour, depending on the charge controller of the handset.
- Battery is 3050 mAh
- Charge current is 1 or 1.5 A(h), AKA 1000/1500 mAh
- Charging time for a 3000 mAh battery = (1000 mAh (1 A(h)) x 3 = 3000 mAh), or (1500 mAh (1.5 A(h)) x 2 = 3000 mAh)
TL;DR: It's normal. The bigger the battery, the longer it takes to charge.
You can use a 2 A charger, but it might damage the battery, or worse. Charging through a USB is also much slower (around 500 mAh)
jourdy said:
Is charging time really slow for the Xperia Ultra?
Mine charges about 35% per hour.
It takes 3 hours to fully charge my phone. Coming from a Samsung Note 2 which charges completely in 1.5 hours, I find this really slow.
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That is incredibly fast already for a battery of our size.
LordManhattan said:
- Battery is 3050 mAh
- Charge current is 1 or 1.5 A(h), AKA 1000/1500 mAh
- Charging time for a 3000 mAh battery = (1000 mAh (1 A(h)) x 3 = 3000 mAh), or (1500 mAh (1.5 A(h)) x 2 = 3000 mAh)
TL;DR: It's normal. The bigger the battery, the longer it takes to charge.
You can use a 2 A charger, but it might damage the battery, or worse. Charging through a USB is also much slower (around 500 mAh)
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Actually, charging lithium requires specific algortihm to maximize the battery's lifespan and capacity (CC-CV algorithm).
That's why phones manufacturers use "fast charge" marketing gimmick to charge your smartphone up to 80% capacity in just x hour. It is not actually "fast charge". It's just the CC phase, where the charging controller makes full use of the adaptor's output current. After that comes the CV phase, where every lithium batteries, no matter how big their capacity is, are in the mercy of current-voltage law... That said, charging a 3000mAh battery with a 1.5A adaptor will take more than 2 hours.
Technical things aside, charging (most of currently used) phone's batteries from "zero" to full capacity (which, to a certain extent, doesn't matter how big the battery's capacity is) in just 1.5 hours is near the limit of fast charging.
Thanks for the info. Takes me more or less 2.5 - 3 hours.
Now I know it is normal, thanks to your explanations. I was used to the Samsung Note 2's battery (3100 mAh) and it took just 1.5 hours to fully charge. I remember it being 1% increase per minute. Didn't know that the Samsung charger was 2A DC. Yikes, I sometimes use that to charge other devices.
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Actually, charging lithium requires specific algortihm to maximize the battery's lifespan and capacity (CC-CV algorithm).
That's why phones manufacturers use "fast charge" marketing gimmick to charge your smartphone up to 80% capacity in just x hour. It is not actually "fast charge". It's just the CC phase, where the charging controller makes full use of the adaptor's output current. After that comes the CV phase, where every lithium batteries, no matter how big their capacity is, are in the mercy of current-voltage law... That said, charging a 3000mAh battery with a 1.5A adaptor will take more than 2 hours.
Technical things aside, charging (most of currently used) phone's batteries from "zero" to full capacity (which, to a certain extent, doesn't matter how big the battery's capacity is) in just 1.5 hours is near the limit of fast charging.
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Interesting! We learn something new every day! Thanks
My device charges to 60% fast but after that is takes forever to get to 100 % whats app with that ?
yamani.m said:
My device charges to 60% fast but after that is takes forever to get to 100 % whats app with that ?
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Well for one thing, when you charge the battery, what you're doing is increasing its internal voltage. To charge the battery, you have to supply a higher voltage than the battery currently has, and so the higher the battery's charge, the slower it charges, all else being equal.
However, all is not equal, because at a certain point, the charger slows down the current it is delivering for safety reasons. These two things combine and the result is much slower charging after a certain point.
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Well for one thing, when you charge the battery, what you're doing is increasing its internal voltage. To charge the battery, you have to supply a higher voltage than the battery currently has, and so the higher the battery's charge, the slower it charges, all else being equal.
However, all is not equal, because at a certain point, the charger slows down the current it is delivering for safety reasons. These two things combine and the result is much slower charging after a certain point.
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Wel that sucks >…< thanks for the info!!
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i used the charger from galaxy s4 ( 2A) to charge my xperia z ultra but it didn't charge it faster than the sony stock charger ( 1.5A). Weird. it seems that the phone doesn't allow more amps to be transfered. thats ashame cause if you use the phone while charging it doesn't charge almost at all. the consumption is higher than the charge rate
I just compared samsung 2A charger and Sony 1.5A on stock KK 4.4.4 (108). Samsung charger is better if you have limited time.
Is it real that charging with a higher current is bad for battery ?
Samsung 00:00>1%
Samsung 01:00>53%
Samsung 02:00>93%
Samsung 02:26>100%
Sony 00:00>5%
Sony 01:00>45%
Sony 02:00>80%
Sony 03:00>100%
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I just compared samsung 2A charger and Sony 1.5A on stock KK 4.4.4 (108). Samsung charger is better if you have limited time.
Is it real that charging with a higher current is bad for battery ?
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Debatable, but I don't know that much about battery tech, so i'm not going to speculate. I'll keep using the stock charger though, since the Ultra has an internal battery after all, and I won't risk damaging the battery by using a different charger.
I'm using the DK30 dock btw, and it takes 2 hours from 0-100%. Do you have the dock, or are you using a regular cable?
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Debatable, but I don't know that much about battery tech, so i'm not going to speculate. I'll keep using the stock charger though, since the Ultra has an internal battery after all, and I won't risk damaging the battery by using a different charger.
I'm using the DK30 dock btw, and it takes 2 hours from 0-100%. Do you have the dock, or are you using a regular cable?
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Using regular cable. Today I'll visit local Sony store for DK30 and I can repeat the test with the dock.
1 hour difference is great,
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Use original Nokia charger that is rated 5V 550mA and your phone will last 30-40 percent longer.
Original SE charger is rated at 5V 850mA, fast charge is not always good.
Tested on X10mini, X10mini pro, X10/2pcs in our service center.
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Hey Seth - Thanks for the tip.
Can you explain why charging slower would affect the overall battery life?
Also, in that case would it be even better if you charged the phone from a usb port (like plugging it into your laptop) which often provides 100-500mA?
Google for "Battery Chargers and Charging Methods" first link for all info about charging schemes and battery chemistry reaction with fast charge and alot of usesfull info.
Just had a quick google -
Fig3 here is a nice graph showing the how fast charging can reduce the overall battery life during the battery lifetime:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
This is probably my misunderstanding, but when i read this post originally i thought it was some way to improve battery life as in prolonging the time it takes between needing to charge.. if that makes sense?
partly yes partly no, your link describes charging with higher voltage decreases battery life this is different because voltage is same but current different
example: 3 chargers, our battery is 800mAh in capacity.
5v 400mA - battery charged in 2 hours from 0% to 100% internal chemistry react normal - better absorbtion
5v 850mA - battery charged in little less than 1 hour internal battery chemistry can be little upset cos risen temperature in reaction
5v 8000mA - battery cant quickly absorb this current in chemistry and will propably explode/leak/burn within minutes/seconds
this principle i mean
on usb charging ,battery drains fast for me
try that nokia charger and you will see difference.
sethxp said:
try that nokia charger and you will see difference.
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What is the model number of Nokia Charger?
Nokia AC-6E type
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Nokia AC-6E type
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Thanks.. I will give it a go..
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bought one of these chargers from ebay following your advice, the battery drains faster than ever! 96% to 84% in 30 mins with no use in my pocket!
sethxp said:
Use original Nokia charger that is rated 5V 550mA and your phone will last 30-40 percent longer.
Original SE charger is rated at 5V 850mA, fast charge is not always good.
Tested on X10mini, X10mini pro, X10/2pcs in our service center.
Best regards
Seth
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That works! I also tested with my brothers' JAGA(!!!) charger mod. 5003fb050040 (5v 450mA) and it was even better.
I have a 5.2A 550mA battery charger of Micromax
Can i use it??????
i drained all juice of the battery and put to the charge and it took 3 hours for full charge. is this normal
Its normal, it takes between 2:30 and 3...
Chill dude lol
JD
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Haha his like wtf.... That cant b right
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I've just charged mine from 7% to 100% and it took a shade over 3.15hrs via plug charger.
Did you have the phone On or Off to charge?
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Its normal, it takes between 2:30 and 3...
Chill dude lol
JD
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Haha his like wtf.... That cant b right
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guys it was 1h 15mins on htc desire. battery draining time feels same but 3 times more charging time.
Mine was left on when charging, but next to no use when charging. Never turned a phone off to charge.
Samsung chargers usually have an output of 700mA at 5v while HTC's have 1A at 5v meaning HTC's will charge faster.
Charging batteries faster with higher amperage chargers does save time, but the batteries also usually discharge faster and will degrade over a shorter period of time than would be the case when using more "mild" chargers with lower amperage.
If you plan on charging your phones at night while you sleep, choosing the lower amp charger will give you better battery life (and you won't have to worry about the fact that it takes 3 hours to charge).
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Samsung chargers usually have an output of 700mA at 5v while HTC's have 1A at 5v meaning HTC's will charge faster.
Charging batteries faster with higher amperage chargers does save time, but the batteries also usually discharge faster and will degrade over a shorter period of time than would be the case when using more "mild" chargers with lower amperage.
If you plan on charging your phones at night while you sleep, choosing the lower amp charger will give you better battery life (and you won't have to worry about the fact that it takes 3 hours to charge).
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Very well explained!,
Quist said:
Samsung chargers usually have an output of 700mA at 5v while HTC's have 1A at 5v meaning HTC's will charge faster.
Charging batteries faster with higher amperage chargers does save time, but the batteries also usually discharge faster and will degrade over a shorter period of time than would be the case when using more "mild" chargers with lower amperage.
If you plan on charging your phones at night while you sleep, choosing the lower amp charger will give you better battery life (and you won't have to worry about the fact that it takes 3 hours to charge).
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I remember when the SGS was first announced it was put across strongly by Samsung not to charge the phone overnight.
They said it was wrong to leave the phone connected when fully charged.
I have not heard anything this time for the SGS II.
Well I bought the Galaxy S3 on the first day of the UK launch and depleted the battery to 0% then charged with the original 1 Amp charger from 0%. I had noticed that this takes a very very long time, around 8 hours. The battery life after charging however is substantial and very adequate.
On the second charge after depletion once again, I decided to use a Griffin 2.1 Amp charger which I had used to charge the hefty Galaxy note with. The Galaxy S3 charges at a much rapid rate and takes around 2-3 hours to reach 100% from 0%. However I have noticed that the battery life depletes a bit faster, Is this due to my imagination or is a 2.1 Amp charger not suitable for this phone as it was with the tablet-like Galaxy note.
Also note that I tried to charge my HTC one X with the 2.1 Amp charger and it charge very slowly, while the original HTC charger has a much lower ampage than 1 Amp
Hmm I have been using my galaxy s charger 0.5amp and it has been charging pretty slowly but seems to deplete faster.
I have been actively using for 50min on wifi now and 85% left. Which seems a bit quick for me. I will try charging with the standard 1amp tonight and see.
Now fast are you depleting at?
I measure my battery life by checking the screen on time just before the death of the charge which was 5 hours on the original charger, with the quick charger its 4 hours. My Galaxy note has no change in battery life weather you any ampere chargers. Also the general battery percentage seems to run low faster anyway on the galaxy s3 using the fast charger.
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I shall try the standard 1 amp charger the next time my phone depletes
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Just wondering, since the S2 had a limit of 650mA for charging, does this apply to the S3? You guys make it sound like it charges slow as well...
Galaxy s2 does charge very slow for me aswell. Compared to htc phones the Galaxy s 2 charges painfully slowly. Now I regularly use the 2 amp charger on my galaxy s3 and have seen a huge improvement in charging speeds. It charges at around 2% per minute and still lasts around 4 hours of screen time for a full charge.
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I noticed that I can only charge fast using original charger. While charger with shorted usb data + & - (ie. htc 1A charger) will not activate fast charging.
You can verify by going into *#*#4636#*#*, Battery, using ori charger will show AC while HTC charger will show USB
I think samsung made some changes to the microUSB pinout
xifer said:
You can verify by going into *#*#4636#*#*, Battery, using ori charger will show AC while HTC charger will show USB
I think samsung made some changes to the microUSB pinout
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Thanx for the "shortcode". Where does one find those?
Also from reading about the MHL to HDMI cable from older devices not wotking, it does in fact seem that Samsung have changed the microUSB pinouts (although my Nokia 1.2A charger shows AC in that battery "menu").
Mine charges from about 10% to full in about two and a half hours, using the charger provided in the box.
My s2 came with a 0.7amp charger and took about 2.5 hours. My s3 came with a 1amp charger and takes about the same. Charges to 80% in no time and then slows down for the later part of the charge
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A battery isn't like a fuel tank which you simply fill up through the hose until it's full.
Due to physical and chemical reasons, a nearly-full battery takes a lot longer to fill by a certain percent since it simply can't store the energy quickly enough.
Additionally, deep-discharged batteries often start with a slower charging speed (and then cranked up) to keep the battery from dying too soon and/or not being able to reach full capacity.
is the Nokia 1.2A charger ok to use with the samsung G3 as i got one of these spare and would prefer use it if so as the usb is way to short to reach from my desk up and around the back.
but the Nokia 1.2A charger lead is more than long enough
Just to check with all of you, i've been told that it is best not to charge your phone or any other handheld device IF the battery is not at a really low rate, at least not till your device actually prompts you to charge. They were saying that this would cause the battery life to be shortened. But at times, I need to make sure that i have enough battery to last me for a few more hours before i knock off from work, i would just charge the phone (battery at 25-30%) even before it prompts me to. Is it alright to do that often?
2ndly, at times when i stream videos on my phone for many hours, the battery would definitely drain fast and i would need to charge my phone at least 2-3 times a day. Is it alright for me to do that or am i "abusing" it? =X
Appreciate all your advises...Thanks in advance~
so any update on if using the nokia charger is ok with it being 200mah more than the standard 1A charger since it has longer lead.
or there is the 700mah samsung charger from my old S2
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Well I bought the Galaxy S3 on the first day of the UK launch and depleted the battery to 0% then charged with the original 1 Amp charger from 0%. I had noticed that this takes a very very long time, around 8 hours. The battery life after charging however is substantial and very adequate.
On the second charge after depletion once again, I decided to use a Griffin 2.1 Amp charger which I had used to charge the hefty Galaxy note with.
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Just to check with all of you, i've been told that it is best not to charge your phone or any other handheld device IF the battery is not at a really low rate, at least not till your device actually prompts you to charge. They were saying that this would cause the battery life to be shortened. But at times, I need to make sure that i have enough battery to last me for a few more hours before i knock off from work, i would just charge the phone (battery at 25-30%) even before it prompts me to. Is it alright to do that often?
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I don't know why this misconception still lives on; lithium ion batteries require no priming on first use. The WORST thing you can do with a li-ion battery is to fully deplete it before recharging. It is much better to top it off whenever possible; having said that leaving it turned on, on the charger once it is full is also not the best thing (though nowhere near as bad as depleting it fully).
I believe since this phone has a removable battery with external charger the best thing you can do is always charge your battery in the external charger and just switch out the battery when it gets to around 10%.
Nek0onna you should charge your phone whenever it's not full and you have a handy charger.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
what about using different chargers though as i have said yet not answered yet,
i got a samsung s2 700mah charger and a nokia 1200mah charger which will work the best for the battery etc
the 1A included one the usb lead is to short for use behind a desk
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what about using different chargers though as i have said yet not answered yet,
i got a samsung s2 700mah charger and a nokia 1200mah charger which will work the best for the battery etc
the 1A included one the usb lead is to short for use behind a desk
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Yeah its fine, you can use it.
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Can anybody check what the max charge rate is on this device with a battery monitor app? I have handfuls of 1A and a couple 2.1A chargers. I'd really like to charge at twice the rate if possible but not all devices support such rapid charging (kernel limits and such). Just curious before I buy one Thanks!
Even if Samsung slipped up and allowed a 2A charge i'd never want to try it, because tablet and laptop batteries are rated and manufactured for a higher current charge/discharge and most phone batteries would heat and swell up and possibly explode.
my HP touchpad charges with a 1A charger and it would be nice to use that with my sgs3.
Can anybody please check what the max charge rate is on this device
Hello, my Xiamoi Mi 9 is arriving end of next week and I am pretty hyped!
I am really not sure, if I do need these mentioned charging techniques. Apparently you can charge your phone from zero to 100 below one hour. Is it good to charge a phone very often and that fast? Doesn't it heavily influence the battery life? Shouldn't you just use a slow charger and charge it only up to 90%?
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Hello, my Xiamoi Mi 9 is arriving end of next week and I am pretty hyped!
I am really not sure, if I do need these mentioned charging techniques. Apparently you can charge your phone from zero to 100 below one hour. Is it good to charge a phone very often and that fast? Doesn't it heavily influence the battery life? Shouldn't you just use a slow charger and charge it only up to 90%?
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Well I don't think the charger influences battery lifespan, it's how you use the device that does
Most phone batteries are lithium ion batteries and honestly chargers (except fake ones) will not harm your battery regardless of charging speed, phones are built to handle them
If you continuously fast charge your battery, it will lower the lifespan of the battery over time. Unless you're planning to keep this phone for more than 4 years, it's not really that big of an issue. But charging speed does affect battery life.
What affects battery life is letting it go to 0% on Lithium. Just make sure you start recharging it around 10%-20% and you will make the battery last for a very long time.
Hi
Just bought a GT Neo 2 but didn't get the Realme 65W charger. I do have a Samsung EP-'T4510 USB-C Quick Charger 45W + USB-C Cable.
It's obviously not going to charge the phone as fast as an original 65W charger does but it's not charging as fast as I'd expect. Plugged it in earlier at 49% and it was at 91% 40 minutes later.
So what affects charging time?
Charging set up as follows:
1) Using extension lead
2) Using adapter to convert 2 pin EU charger to UK 3 pin
3) Samsung T4510 (45W) and the cable that came with the T4510
Do the extension lead or adapter affect charging time? Also does the cable affect it? Do fast chargers have to be used with a specific type of cable?
The charger/cable has to support the charging protocol of the phone or it will only slow charge.
Best to use a OEM brick/cable no longer than 3 feet.
Battery temperature needs to be high enough at beginning of the charging cycle for fast charging to engage. Minimum 72F, but 82-90F is best.
Fast charging may engage below 72F but Li plating becomes likely. Below about 55F fast charging will likely be disabled.
Above about 103F or about 80% capacity fast charging with be ramped down or disabled.
If screen is on, fast charging is disabled.
A battery fault will also disable it or cause erratic fast charging ie a battery failure.
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The charger/cable has to support the charging protocol of the phone or it will only slow charge.
Best to use a OEM brick/cable no longer than 3 feet.
Battery temperature needs to be high enough at beginning of the charging cycle for fast charging to engage. Minimum 72F, but 82-90F is best.
Fast charging may engage below 72F but Li plating becomes likely. Below about 55F fast charging will likely be disabled.
Above about 103F or about 80% capacity fast charging with be ramped down or disabled.
If screen is on, fast charging is disabled.
A battery fault will also disable it or cause erratic fast charging ie a battery failure.
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Thanks for that.
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Thanks for that.
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Sorry @blackhawk
One more question if you don't mind. Will charging the GT Neo 2 with the Samsung charger damage or reduce the lifespan of the Realme battery?
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Sorry @blackhawk
One more question if you don't mind. Will charging the GT Neo 2 with the Samsung charger damage or reduce the lifespan of the Realme battery?
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Fast charging produces more heat therefore will reduce the lifespan somewhat.
On my heavily used Note 10+ I now replace the battery every year or so to help prevent a battery failure, routine maintenance.
The charging curve is controlled by the phone not the charger. The charging curve should be near identical if both bricks supple the required peak voltage/amps and the phone power controller can communicate with the brick.
Thank you kindly. Much appreciated.
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Thank you kindly. Much appreciated.
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You're welcome. Play with it to see how it works.
Start the charge at about the same temperature then time how long it takes to gain 1 or 2% without turning on the main display. Watch when it ramps down during the charge cycle. It will vary but I see 2%@minute sometimes a little faster at the peak fast charging rate on the N10+.
To extent battery life limit discharge to 30% and top charge to 80%. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling; it extents their totals full charge cycles many fold. A 40-67% usage range is near ideal. Limit the current draw; higher current usage stresses the battery more as does back to back discharge/recharge etc cycles with no rest period.
That's one reason it's just easier to replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's considered degraded and has reached the end of its useful service life. It should be replaced. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can seriously damage the device.
Any battery swelling is a failure, replace immediately.
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You're welcome. Play with it to see how it works.
Start the charge at about the same temperature then time how long it takes to gain 1 or 2% without turning on the main display. Watch when it ramps down during the charge cycle. It will vary but I see 2%@minute sometimes a little faster at the peak fast charging rate on the N10+.
To extent battery life limit discharge to 30% and top charge to 80%. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling; it extents their totals full charge cycles many fold. A 40-67% usage range is near ideal. Limit the current draw; higher current usage stresses the battery more as does back to back discharge/recharge etc cycles with no rest period.
That's one reason it's just easier to replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's considered degraded and has reached the end of its useful service life. It should be replaced. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can seriously damage the device.
Any battery swelling is a failure, replace immediately.
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That's all very interesting. I have often read about the 30 - 80 range. I used to own a Huawei P9 and always charged to 100 and that battery didn't last more than 2 years. Last phone was an A70 and that'll be 3 years old in June. Started getting random reboots recently and a quick Google said that's most likely down to the beginning of a battery failure. So just got this GT Neo "as new". It was obviously sent back to the online store by original purchaser minus the charger (replaced with a 5V 2.1A charger. Store had no OEM charger listed on site for sale so I agreed to take a the EP-T4510 charger. While it's not ideal that I won't be getting the fast charge of the OEM charger, it's far from a major issue for me, as long as I'm not going to damage the battery with it and I doubt I will. Even less of an issue if all I really need to do is keep it between 30 and 80.
I've read also that a complete discharge every once in a while is recommended but not sure how accurate that advice is.
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That's all very interesting. I have often read about the 30 - 80 range. I used to own a Huawei P9 and always charged to 100 and that battery didn't last more than 2 years. Last phone was an A70 and that'll be 3 years old in June. Started getting random reboots recently and a quick Google said that's most likely down to the beginning of a battery failure. So just got this GT Neo "as new". It was obviously sent back to the online store by original purchaser minus the charger (replaced with a 5V 2.1A charger. Store had no OEM charger listed on site for sale so I agreed to take a the EP-T4510 charger. While it's not ideal that I won't be getting the fast charge of the OEM charger, it's far from a major issue for me, as long as I'm not going to damage the battery with it and I doubt I will. Even less of an issue if all I really need to do is keep it between 30 and 80.
I've read also that a complete discharge every once in a while is recommended but not sure how accurate that advice is.
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Li's are born to die; they start degrading the moment they're assembled. Don't go too nuts, just replace them as needed.
Until I watched someone replace my N10+ battery I was very concerned. However I realized it's relatively easy with the right skillset and tools.
Mind you they say the N10+ is one of the more difficult ones to replace... meh.
Now I don't really think much about it.